got married, gave birth to a second child within a year and divorced again, filing two identical lawsuits for divorce, presumably for manipulation of the distribution system, one lawsuit was returned, the other was accepted and considered with an abnormal speed in a matter of days with violations of all procedural terms. the divorce took place just before the opening of the register of declarations, so there is every reason to believe that the purpose of the spouses was to hide part of the income and property. groposenko submitted, first of all, a duck. declaration for 2022, and secondly, we still have to check some of his declarations, and we see that his wife sverdenko is mentioned again as a wife, and he has another daughter, and we would also like to pay a little more attention to this fact. a lot of questions and benefits of the judge arise. most of the property owned by gorbasenko allegedly came to him from his mother. she donated two apartments in the capital of 116 and 136 m2 in the elite area on obolonskaya embankment. and she built a house

of more than 800 m2 in the village of lebedivka near kyiv, while the woman did not run a business, but was a housewife, a wife, or even an ex -wife, during her stay in marriage with gorbasenko from 2012 to 14 years also acquired a considerable amount of real estate, a house of 122 m2, two apartments of 164 and 155 m, two parking spaces and two plots of land, and that's all this is with a total income for that period of... 1 million hryvnias. real estate in the temporarily occupied crimea is added to the property in kyiv. there, hanna sveredenko has four non-residential premises in gaspri, near yalta. and several plots of land in sudak and a house of more than 300 m2. gorbasenko to provide explanation of these facts is refused. the information that is compiled, allegedly in a new conclusion, has already been researched, has already been processed and refuted. i am categorically against, from. drawing up and i will ask

the honorable members of the commission to continue the review. after the closed discussion of the higher court of kvaliv , the commission nevertheless decided to postpone the consideration of gorbasenko. based on the results of the discussion , a protocol decision is announced to postpone consideration of the issue. we asked pavel gorbasenko about the probable intention to hide real marital relations, connections with the state as a terrorist and simpletons who cause doubts. mr. pavlo, tell me, please. what did your father do while roaming in the occupied kyiv region? your divorce from your wife seems questionable, considering you have a second child, i don't want to answer you on the fly, if you want to do a good interview, then come visit, send questions, even about the wealth analyzed by the community council, have a good idea , the wealth was analyzed and a conclusion was made that there are no issues of wealth, so let's not invent a report from that...

there is no such thing. we hope that, after a careful study of all newly discovered facts that may testify to the dishonesty of judge pavlo gorbasenko, the commission will make a fair decision regarding him. the ethics council completed interviews with candidates for the position of member of the supreme council of justice under the quota of president volodymyr zelenskyi. currently, the vrp has 17 members out of 21. the president has to appoint two, and for more than a year and a half, the seats have been empty. the applicants are questionable, this is the judge of the kyiv district administrative court nataliya panchenko, and she has a wonderful friendly family and good social security, so she lives in her mother's apartments, which her sister bought, drives her daughter's car, and eats rations from the state. i am a person who knows how to save, and i had no need to spend. since 2022, panchenko and her husband have been living in an apartment designed for the judge's mother. 64 m2 almost in the center. she

bought kyiv back in december 2012, the whole family allegedly spent money on real estate, this apartment was financed, i say once again that from savings my mother, father, ah, my mother's brother, i also spoke about the fact that my sister also participated in the financing of this purchase of this apartment, during the interview. as a candidate for the higher qualification commission judge, you said that the money for the purchase was provided by your sister, her income from 1998 to the 12th year was a total of uah 680 28,332, maybe i answered incorrectly then, two years before the purchase of this apartment, the judge's sister i bought another one for my mother in the capital with an area of... 34

squares and a woman has never lived in any of them lived, instead natalia panchenko and her husband used the real estate. why did you live in this apartment? did your sister buy an apartment? where did you live, why so? i would not like to disclose the reasons for purchasing this apartment for my sister, but due to certain life circumstances, she purchased it, and at the same time, she stayed where she lived. there was no need for me and my family to purchase an apartment due to the fact that we understood that in the near future we would receive an apartment from the state. to the state in natalia panchenko always had many hopes, with the help of social security, for example, she even managed to buy a new audi q7, issued for her daughter, but the judge herself used the car. in our state , such a thing as the maintenance of officers and

their families at the expense of the state was introduced, and i want to tell you that i can definitely get confused in my hands right now, along with this somewhere up to the third grade... because i just i remember how we lived, yes, we were well-off, we did not spend money on housing, because the state compensated for it, we did not spend money funds for food, since the state also provided us with this, and this was the concept of rations, well, in russian, a share, well , a share, well, that is, when an officer was given food for himself and his family members. the entire judge's family obviously knows how to save money. her husband managed to buy a motorcycle with a market value of more than 7 thousand dollars, 15 times cheaper. it is a completely ordinary motorcycle, from what i can see, as far as i can tell from an outside observer,

there is nothing like that at all. explain please. such a huge difference between the real price. siklai, this is an agreement between the parties, and why the price was exactly that, i do not know, because i was not a participant in this relationship, why he sold it at exactly that price, i do not know. perhaps panchenko does not see the problem, because she herself gives away her own cars for nothing, she sold her toyota rav-4 for uah 100, she says that the car was badly damaged in an accident. in general , the ethical council had many questions about the integrity of the judge of the kyiv district administrative court natalia panchenko. soon we will find out whether it was successful servants of themis to convince experts of their suitability for the position, members of the supreme council of justice. and for today i have everything, it was judicial control and i, tetyana shustrova.

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that way at the beginning, because i believe that this is your new experience that you got, and it was about this and many other experiences of yours that i invited you to talk about today. the experience of war, it is not always pleasant, of course we gain something, we lose something, but today i want you to share with our viewers and... tell about it, let's start from february 24, 2022, do you remember this day, where were you, what were you doing and did you think it would be exactly as it was? yes, on february 24 i was in kyiv, at that time i was living in lukyanivka, yes, i was expecting war, i, well, of course, i... how to say it correctly, conditionally, i didn't want to, but i knew what

was going to happen, and even two days before the start i was warned to leave kyiv, i tried to prepare as i imagined it, because if it was unpleasant to actually voice it, the war, when it started in the 14th year for the majority of the population, and i, unfortunately, was the majority for whom it lasted the first two years, and then it... went into some kind of shadowy history, like, it exists somewhere nearby, but what kind of problems the military and people in the occupied territories face directly, we didn’t particularly delve into it, well, that is, we can talk a lot about it, but god be with him, as it is, and the majority of the population now, i think, is responsible for this, i am also with them, i tried to prepare, i was supposed to have medical courses on february 26. on training, i’m sorry, first to medical aid, yes, yes, there should also have been such a mini-school, i

i was considering how to get into the tro, at the moment when i started to be interested in all this in such great detail, it turned out that it would be necessary, i had to collect a huge number of documents, and i understood that i would not be able to get there conditionally, well it takes time, i don't have it. and then it was funny when i looked at the weapons on vibis and it wasn't there, and then i looked at the knives, i mean, you took it so seriously, well, actually, if it was there, i'm already ironic about my own behavior, but that it was super serious for me, i didn't sleep for almost two days, i slept for three to four hours, i watched military films, i was so super nervous, i was preparing physically, i tried to somehow bring myself to a better physical condition, as i thought

it seemed to me at the time, and i collected an alarming suitcase, i warned everyone in the theater, i said: friends, pack it up, it doesn't cost you anything, because you packed it yourself, it's standing, nothing will happen, you take it apart, well, it's not a problem really, most people are of the skeptical type , and what about you, everything will be fine, parents are generally the same, and this is actually one of... one of the huge problems, because we got into the occupation later, because they were in the kyiv region, i think one of the huge problems is what people believed. to our leadership and the president that there will be no war, my parents were not preparing for an invasion, no way. your parents live in kyiv region, you were in kyiv, how did you end up in kyiv region? when the war started, in the morning i heard explosions, i decided to sleep, sleep, because i understood that it would be worse, i slept, my application

i was accepted into the ukrainian volunteer service, uh , because i applied, well, that is, i was looking for ways to help, well, it was one of those ways, uh, my parents called, we talked for a long time, they said: come to us, uh, i went to them, in fact, everything is very simple, that is, it was also probably my mistake, because the fighting was already going on in gostomyla at that time, but i went to my parents, and from the point of view of what to do with them just in case , if something happens, well, for example, now i'm thinking... about whether i did the right thing or not no, i think it's right, because if i was in kyiv at that time, i would have just gone crazy, not knowing, there was no connection, nothing, i was out of touch for 5 days, and i would have been fine if they were there themselves, you said that you watched war movies, yes, war movies, let's say that, and surely, even in

the worst case scenario, you couldn't imagine what you could do? will something happen to you that you may also end up under occupation together with your parents? no, but before that i read the experience of the occupation, and it was terrible, and why was it there a couple of days before i got into the occupation, and this experience actually gave me a little, well, i happened to come across it, just read it, it gave me a little... an understanding of what can await us , what was waiting for you and what actually happened then? well, we were partly under silent occupation, i will explain why, because our village is not a mixed-race one, it is located between borodyanka and bucha, that is, there were no active hostilities there, we were not particularly bombed by airplanes, they dismantled borodyanka, bucha, irpin, gostomel,

and we were precisely these small villages through which the army most often simply passes, that is , it... leaves some part of the army there, but in general it passes to more difficult places, but this does not mean that it passed without a trace, a difficult the experience is actually, like, i don't wish it on anybody, and i imagine that i understand very well those people who are under occupation, but really, i have no idea when they've been under occupation for so long, because my to... the priest was still there for about two weeks, and we for two weeks saw all the dead, wounded, and very seriously wounded and killed, but eh, let's put it this way, we had hope, well, because then everyone still had hope, people who have been under occupation for more than two years, it seems to me that it is also difficult with the fact that

they are cut off from us informationally, and they experience this feeling of hopelessness. and that's why it seems to me that it's much harder there, really for them it's like a prison in fact, but we managed to create a volunteer headquarters there, we helped people with humanitarian aid, unfortunately, we didn't we could break through, we wanted to break into the wart there, take some medicine there , food to the doctors, which were there , we didn't succeed, because very quickly we found ourselves in this very place. occupation, well , how quiet, you can't say, but compared to the cities that were nearby, i think that we were very lucky, look, when i listen to stories about bucha, i, for example, understand that there are people there in general could not go outside, they were afraid of it, some hid there in basements and in other cities and villages also, you even managed to create

a volunteer headquarters, how, well, we did it right at the very beginning, that is... everything is right there in gosnom, conditionally 10 km from us , our life was still somehow turbulent, it was there on the 25th, we already opened the headquarters, that is, it was very fast, and we had a message in the chat of the volunteer service there that in bucho we needed to deliver sports clothes, some food for the soldiers who were in the hospital, and that's why it somehow happened super quickly, and we immediately began to prepare for na'. we were looking for a seamstress material, we were looking for a small surgical kit, well, that is, we understood that what is happening in buch, in principle, will soon be in our country, when we heard about the wart, we from... it is clear that it will soon come to us, so we, we tried to prepare immediately, well, that is, we quickly made decisions, there was no such thing as that we and that,

somehow it will be, no, we immediately understood that, what would be difficult, was also complicated by the fact that nemishaeva is such a sleeping town, and, like a tern, butch, in general, like a suburb, that is, people go to nemyshaevo to sleep, yes, the children are small there, after all, there are parks, nature, to work in kyiv. and we had a huge bunch of mothers with children, and many of them either ran out of milk, or someone did not have time to buy baby formula, some of the children were lactose intolerant, that is, even if we tried to get milk from the cow there, so that at least they could start to feed with milk, then with some children it was more difficult, and we, for example, had one of the urgent needs, it was baby formula, then the urgent needs appeared in the form of... insulin drugs for diabetes, drugs for epileptics, well, there were

hormones already when you were under occupation, so someone helped, somehow managed to transfer all that was needed, and how did we get out of this situation, well, we had pharmacies, we bought it in pharmacies, but the entrance to nemishaev was closed completely until the deoccupation. we could only break through to klavdievo, no. and how did you manage to howl? the first time they worked, we bought, and then we just came and asked to open pharmacies. was there any such story during the occupation during these two weeks that you are talking about, which one you were very impressed, and do you remember her even now? and many of them, in fact, are very sad stories, there are a lot of them, this is mr. serhiy tsarstow. we are the heavenly one that we sent, well, when we were there, the equipment went right through our headquarters, because the main road was blocked, and we were near the railway, also, i

think it was simply because we did not really understand where to create a headquarters, we did it in the cultural center, and it was located near the railway, and this is understandable, like, it is absolutely working, that is, it is important the point would be for the russians, and they were there very quickly, and we had to make an urgent decision. to disband it somehow, where there was a crowd, the largest crowd of people, we sent there water and food, which we managed to collect there during this time at the headquarters, as well as some medicines, clothes, well, that is, try to place it in other points, which may be more safe, conditionally, and here is mr. serhiy, we had a school in which there were a lot of people and children inside in the basement, we threatened... he was stuffed with food and a lot of water in the car, and when the convoy of vehicles passed, well, he drove in, we unloaded him in the backyard, and he went to

school, to be unloaded at school, and he was shot, in front of his wife, that was it, we talked after half an hour, well, that is , half an hour ago he and i were driving, we took the keys from the drugstore, so that we could take them from us ... then they were injured, we needed some narcotic substances to inject them, because they were heavy, very injured, and half an hour that's why we drove with him in the car, took the keys, half an hour later serhiy didn't it happened, one moment was so difficult, the second moment was when the wounded left us and a man was brought to us, who in fact had everything crawling on his skin, i'm sorry for such details, but that's how it was, he simply opened a gate, well, an iron one, to let people in across the road, because the equipment was moving,

the russians saw it and fired from a tank and he just came, he had half a gate stuck in his body and he simply, he survived the night, the guys delivered him somehow in the bush, although he was already starting to wheeze, we already thought that this would be the first casualty here, well, i mean right here at our headquarters. and one more moment, this is mr. roman, the kingdom of heaven is also his, they haven’t found his relatives, unfortunately, he is so, nameless, well, how about an nameless grave, but there is no one to take care of him, there is no one, yes, he, they are with the boys, when it started evacuation from the village, the green corridor is already open, they went to places where there were messages of some kind, please take us there, a small child, or a stroller, or a choir, there is a woman, lying down. well, that's what they did, they took people away, and she, they fell into the hands of the russians, and a month after the deoccupation, he was found in the forest,

his body was mined. well, those are the stories, unfortunately. having lived through all this, seeing this horror, how could you say, maybe to reach out to the people who are living in such regions that today or tomorrow, we understand that the war is going on, and there are certain regions that are very close to the contact line, yes, to the front line, maybe it's better ... to ignore the fact that you leave your house there, yes, leave it in he has all the property, and you are worried about the property, maybe it is better to leave on time, yes, i am convinced that the life of every ukrainian, it is much more important than a place, a part, well there, i understand, i perfectly understand those people who have , who are losing this house and they don't want it, it's theirs, it's part of their

life, it's part of their heart. it's part of their history, but we don't have the luxury of throwing people around at the moment, we need our people wherever they are and wherever they are, i understand that a large number of people remained, and for certain reasons they remained there, and perhaps i would also like to advise, especially, well, to do everything quietly, carefully and be careful and... watch yourself and those, those people you you trust, not to put yourself in danger once again, not to try to be heroic, for the same reason we do not have the right and such luxury to scatter people, especially people who have certain principles, who want to fight, in independence, in what conditions they found themselves, people who found themselves without

information. any who lose hope, uh, no, don't lose hope, well, the whole country is fighting for every part of ukraine to return, and no matter what, i can't even imagine what they feel, uh, but keep within yourself this hope, and even if you now have to learn in those conditions... to live, it is better to do it, if people have made a decision not to leave, learn to live already in the conditions that you have now, because you have to protect yourself, is it true that you had such an experience when you communicated with the russian military, yes, we defected when disbanded the headquarters, we ran to our bomb shelter, because we

ran from the bomb shelter. to the headquarters, our relatives also stayed there, the next day we were taken, conditionally and hostages, well, you can call it that, probably, ah, they were quartered in ours above us, well, that is, we were in a storage, a five-story building , and they were quartered above us, they put the equipment directly under the clamp where there were people, thereby directly exposing us to danger, and they know that the ukrainian military will not... shoot at civilians the population, because it could simply cost almost 300 people their lives, they just actually dismantled the other cities there, bucha, irpin, from us, as always using a human shield, well, like yes, nothing changes, they were as they were, in inhumane in principle, they remain so, what was this communication like, you remember, i tried not to communicate, why, because... i am one of

the organizers of the headquarters, and i had to stay silent, well, because i perfectly understood, if they find my phone, how many contacts were there, what messages i have wrote who i helped, at the beginning before we formed the headquarters, i helped the military, i understood that i might simply not survive, well, that’s understandable, like, even if you don’t know how the russian a... army works and you did not have this experience, you understand very well that if the enemy army comes, they will remove those who work with their own, but i tried to avoid all communication, but i spoke ukrainian and i was not ashamed of it, and they asked you something, when you spoke ukrainian, and the only thing is that they they asked me, no, they almost didn't communicate with me, i also somehow tried to do so.