certain technical difficulties when talking about boris johnson and donald trump, eccentric and inherently populist policies, about their interactions and how quickly they change their views about our country, the country, according to where they sit, or one can hope that donald trump will somehow change after becoming president, i can't help it. first of all, regarding president zelensky's conversation with presidential candidate trump, it seems to me that this is still a hasty decision, because as we see now, no, not everything will be so smooth in trump, he rested on the electoral ceiling, and for the correct construction of the election. campaign

by the democrats, he will face a lot of challenges in order to get the voters he has, you need to understand the schedule in american society, in fact , trump and biden were ready to vote somewhere approximately equally at 35% of the vote, in the middle there was a so-called swamp, these are... who are undecided, and it is for their votes that the main struggle should take place in the event that these two candidates run, instead, if the democrats nominate another candidate, much younger, especially if this candidate will be strengthened by a rather strong vice-presidential candidacy. if the candidate

from the democrats gets the support of big, let's say, world stars, like swift, for example, and runs an effective campaign, we will witness that the democrats will have a pretty good chance. in order to win this nomination, the presidential nomination, i mean, so going back to the conversations there that we've been talking about lately, and trump's conversation with the former prime minister johnson, it's not entirely clear-cut here either, because we have to...

preface each sentence with the word if, uh, how, or rather if, if trump becomes president, if he, walks into the oval office, and if he sees , there are opportunities for conducting some negotiations with the russian federation, and if at that moment the intelligence will recommend it to him. that it is necessary to conditionally bring ukraine to the negotiating table, then that will be one story, but all these are conditionalities, firstly, trump still needs to win, secondly, when we talk about that these two characters, let's say trump and johnson, who are quite good friends, are in politics. there are no such things as good friends, especially

when these friends have different self-interests. i'm sure that trump already sees johnson as a rising star, not a star that will burn out soon. accordingly, his attitude to johnson, it seems to me, will be much different now than when johnson was at the head of the british government. accordingly, johnson's recommendations, of course, which were published in the daily mail, of course, may trump will read it, but will they be the scenario for him that he grabs for, it is very big, very doubtful, i repeat, trump, if, again, he becomes the president, he himself does not yet know what decisions he will make will be at'. adopt and on the basis

of which documents, therefore, it is still necessary to discuss some peace plans, which we postpone until... the 25th year, a lot of events must take place, they will certainly take place, well, let's go back anyway to johnson, but this time to mike, in particular, he stated that trump can end the war against ukraine if he shows force. by the way, let's listen to the sync and then discuss. i am confident that president trump will be able to end this conflict if he shows strength. we maintain peace through force. we haven't had that in the 3.5 years of the trump administration. everything was exactly the opposite. so, mr. viktor, your

trailer is very short. we've just heard from a man who dragged on and on as long as he could on a vote on aid for... the country, and for israel and taiwan, in fact, for a person who bows to donald trump in every way, and thinks exclusively in terms of his own, probably, political career and his own idolatry, and not some visions that concern the future of the world in general, but this person says that that we didn't have any power for three years, we will have it with donald trump. what will the politics of the united states turn into in general? if we are going to see such a level, well , it is safe to say without exaggeration, well, some cult of personality? well let's start with that this is pre-election rhetoric, we in ukraine are now discussing the american

elections as something extraordinary, i repeat, they will really have an impact on all world processes, but due to the absence of a political process in ukraine, it is really more interesting to watch the american elections, but here, speaker johnson's words remind me very much of the words of president poroshenko and president zelenskyi, who also said during their pre-election rallies that they would end the war for weeks, so let's still correlate what is said under the time of the election campaign and what actually happens after it. one more

piece of news, by the way, which concerns international relations this time, kuleb, the minister of foreign affairs of our country is going to china to discuss. termination or possible ways of termination of russian aggression, it became known this morning, so this visit will take place on july 23-25, allegedly at the invitation of the minister of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china one, and of course, the main topic will be russia's aggression against ukraine. well, if we speak in this context. mr. viktor, we we understand that china supports russia in one way or another, well, of course, not directly, but informally so, and we understand that china is playing absolutely its own game, and to a certain extent, as of now, it is not entirely beneficial for the war

to stop, in this in the context of what we can do, what we can discuss with china and with what positions or proposals... mr. kuleba will go to china to discuss the actual russian aggression against ukraine, i do not know the details and the schedule of this particular visit, but i can assume that this is a slap to the kremlin side of china, and i will tell you what my hypothesis is based on, literally... two weeks ago, we remember that indian prime minister modi flew to moscow, and india itself is exactly the country that is trying to pull russia away from china, so that russia is not for nothing

fixated solely on dependence on china, and in this case we know, first of all, that there are territorial uh-uh some conflicts between china and india and about the himalayas, and i think that in this case... this is the kind of reception arranged by prime minister vladimir putin in moda just in time returned to china in some way to show diplomatic good fortune, let's say with the fact that russia can hold such negotiations without china's sanctions, this is my version, of course, but... but it seems very similar that this was exactly

such a reaction, and that's why it was so quick, such a quick invitation to minister kolida came to believe from beijing, that is, relatively speaking, this is such a yellow card to the kremlin, or even we can expect the nearest, the nearest future, at least weeks, months. some kind of curtailment of support from china, what with side of china in relation to russia? well, i don't think that china is globally interested in the end of the war in ukraine, because it, now, i mean, perceives the war in ukraine, exclusively as a drain of resources from the west and in the first place. from the united states of america, which they announced as,

well, let's say, not a strategic enemy now, but a strategic adversary, so in this case it is necessary to understand that china, for china, the war in ukraine, or the russian-ukrainian war , this is a war somewhere on the periphery, what is happening is important to them along the lines of, just... their relationship with the united states of america, you remember that xi jinping, during his inaugural address, then announced that there is now a bipolar world, where china is and there is and where the united states of america is, all the rest - this is a large periphery for china, respectively, and all the processes that take place on this periphery, china considers exclusively in... that, it is on the hand, it strengthens china's position, or it

weakens china's position, and in this case , russia, which weakens the position of the west in china's opinion, plays right into china's hands, and sir finally, viktor, i would like to remind you that we are also closely monitoring the council of ministers of the eu. from foreign affairs, there they communicate, uh, in general, on the topic of our energy capabilities and air defense for ukraine, and mr. borel has already managed to note that the first and interest from frozen russian assets will arrive in ukraine already in august, it will be around 1 .4 billion dollars, and with this money... weapons and ammunition will be purchased, this is a very important

trigger, we are entering the stage of the war when in fact, we will fight with the russian federation at the expense of the russian federation itself, very rudely, but one way or another we will do it thanks to our partners, what can it change and should we expect it at all? this is a painful issue for russia, it is a painful issue. the question for vladimir putin, of course we were more counting on us to fight for money, actually the money of the russian federation, and not exclusively for interest, but you know that even the world bank was opposed to frozen assets being used as opportunities for of ukraine, for the purchase of weapons by ukraine or. to support ukraine or for recovery, so this process, this process is still ongoing,

discussions are ongoing, and i think that the final decision on how to use the frozen russian resources will come only when the geopolitical arrangement is clear, if ukraine starts to win, and the western countries , our western partners will... if ukraine wins, then the issue of using frozen russian assets will be resolved. thank you, mr. viktor. for joining us on the air and for your thoughts, viktor shlinchak, eh, the chairman of the board of the institute of world politics, was on the live air, and ukraine will continue to talk about the most important topics at home, so to speak, and beyond its borders, in general, in the world,

and you, our dear viewers and listeners, we ask today, do you approve of biden's decision? from the election race, especially if you've been following his recent public appearances, and if you, if you approve of his decision, then please dial 0800 211 381, it's free, if you don't of such a decision by biden, then 0800 211 382, ​​i emphasize once again, all your calls will be free, but your opinion is invaluable to us. of the kyiv office of the secretariat of the energy community, ex-minister of energy and environmental protection of ukraine in the 1920s, mr. oleksiy, i am glad to welcome you, good evening, good evening, and let's start with

the usual situation in the energy system of our country. in particular, the minister of energy, mr. galushchenko stated that the system, that the situation in the energy system will improve in the near future, he stated this during the last hour of questions to the government. let's listen. it was said that after the 20th the situation will improve, and it is true, i confirm it. as for the terms of the ac, repairs of the ac, we have built one. repair campaign in such a way that the nuclear generation, which is on the territory under the control of ukraine, works at full capacity during the ozp, during the winter period, and accordingly, all the terms are adapted to this, and mr. oleksiy, how do you assess from your point of view ,

perspectives, regarding the situation in ukrainian energy system, we hear different opinions that there will be an improvement in august, someone says that in september, october we can generally go to minimal outages, minimal schedules, or in general there will be none, here is your opinion, is this true so what should we expect in the next two months at least? well, in fact, the question of disconnecting or not disconnecting consumers, because, unfortunately, today we already balance the system by disconnecting consumers, we simply do not have balancing capacities that can be simply started and included in the network when needed, the situation directly depends on whether we have consumption peaks, i.e. we have a dormant heat in ukraine, accordingly, consumers have the opportunity not to turn on air conditioners, they use

less electricity on the one hand, on the other hand they have come out of repairs certain blocks and respectively. there is more power that can be supplied to consumers, as a result such factors affect whether there will be outages or not, indeed during the autumn and spring the consumption levels are lowest because there is no peak or cooling air conditioners, or there is no heating peak, that is, when people turn on the heating devices, so if everything goes well and the repair site will be carried out, that is, repairs will be carried out according to the plan, then as a result we may really be in the minimum restrictions, or potentially some days pass without restrictions, but let's remember that we have a terrorist and a completely crazy neighbor next door, who is a criminal, he destroys civilian infrastructure, and let's look at the fact that they, for example, began

to bomb ours and destroy our infrastructure off-peak load. when it was in december or july, now we had peak loads due to peco, and they started just in april, when, after all, the system was more or less in a mode where it does not need additional capacities, that is, it is also difficult to evaluate , why he is there, and there was such an idea that he simply did not want to make such a picture for europeans and for the whole civilized world, when someone freezes there, and he systematically began to destroy our energy industry. infrastructure, but let's not forget that these terrorists can strike again and any purposeful large-scale strike completely changes the situation in our system, and we understand that... he will again try to put pressure on ukrainian society internally, we all feel that just limiting the supply of electricity energy

affects people, has a negative effect, so if everything is normal, we will carry out the repair program, we will really be able to repair the volumes that were laid by our energy companies, we will conduct a repair company of the energy atom, prepare that we are indeed coming, and it is very dangerous when we come. on all ac units, there is always the largest unit in reserve so that, in the event of an emergency, you can connect the reserve unit, we arrive at the entire equipment warehouse, unfortunately, because the developers have created such conditions, and if we do everything this way, in we will have fewer restrictions, but restrictions, unfortunately, even with all, well, possible and impossible actions, they will be in the winter, when there are peaks of consumption, but again, i draw attention to the fact that they are clearly nearby and they continue to attack ours. structure and a large-scale attack can change absolutely everything, please tell me, mr. oleksiy, maybe explain the mechanics of the process, because people ask, and you know, not being

an expert, i understand these questions completely logically, several large shopping and entertainment centers in they announced to the ukrainian capital that they are abandoning generators and actually switching to the purchase of imported electricity, at least for... 80%, that is, they will always have everything they need for work, for existence and so on further, and this will free them from planned outages, unfortunately, nothing like that shines, well, for household consumers and, as far as we understand, the vast majority of ukrainian industry, and what does it all look like, that is, someone asks me, christ, explain, and what is some alternative network, where only imported electricity is here... where can it be connected, or is it injected in a dosed way, how does it get into absolutely specific objects? please explain because people are asking, well actually, it's

not such a simple question, but i'll try it is easier to explain, we have a requirement that if the electricity supply structure includes 80% imports, then it is not turned off when consuming, the total volume of this imported, well, what can be imported for... now due to the crossing between countries, is 1, 7 gw, that's 1.7 nuclear units, so we have up to two units that can be imported, if you want to get that kind of electricity, take yourself off the lists, then you have to find an electricity supplier, we have quite a few electricity suppliers and make the appropriate request, and i i think that not all suppliers have the opportunity to buy electricity for export, but let's say this, the big players know how to do it, they... forge electricity on foreign markets, then they have to buy a crossing, that is, this network interstate, so that the import

they bought, well, for example, in hungary, so that it conditionally enters this intersection, and this intersection is 1.7 gv, is no longer possible, and further, accordingly, if this supplier has a supply contract with the consumer , he will receive this electrical energy, where there is 80. and accordingly, this consumer is not disconnected, of course, this kind of electricity is more expensive than the electricity we receive today from the supplier on a simple schedule, but many businesses and many productions really take such a step, and it is logical, because sometimes the stoppage of technological process is much more expensive than paying more for such and such a proportion of imports 80. 20 of domestic production, and at the same time, again, this resource is limited, and not all suppliers are able to supply it, i think that someone actually may be abusing

the market, because again there is a supplier, this is a competitive market, which tried to provide a competitive price, and a large supplier can conditionally buy there, having more financial resources, organizational resources in foreign markets, but this is a competition, there really is a war going on. consumer, and if the conditional shopping center says, i need such and such electricity, i don’t want to disconnect it, well, then they contact the supplier, the supplier finds such an opportunity, well, here is such a mechanism, uh, well, taking into account those raising tariffs and so on, will this imported electricity be much more expensive in fact than what people are currently buying, generated within our state. well, now it was just the heat, there were also prices in europe, it was 25-30% more expensive there, but there may be an interesting situation in

the foreign markets. the price may be lower than ours, considering the fact that we have a physical shortage of electrical energy, and there may be a situation where there is a lot of green energy that is generated, for example, in hours maximum solar radiation, and it turns out to buy cheaper there, it really happens, because the market really works there, but unfortunately, i think that the consumer will not fully feel the effect of this, he wants to see that there are lower prices, because that supplier who a... will try to attract imports here, accordingly, more competition will appear for the intersection, other participants will try, realizing that it will be cheaper there, will try to compete for the intersection, that is, they will raise the price for the intersection, sometimes it happens that you bought megawatt/hour for 30 €, and the crossing can cost 150 €, that is, in order for this megawatt, which you bought cheaper on foreign markets, so that it is somehow possible through

the interstate crossing. to import, you start paying a lot more for the crossing, so in fact it will not be cheaper there, because the competition will increase, and i think that somewhere around 25, 30, 50%, this difference, which must be additionally added in order not to disconnect consumer, mr. oleksiy, i wanted to talk to you very briefly about disconnection on russia, that is, we understand what is happening in our country, we have missiles, shelling. they are not doing well, in fact, and the large-scale energy crisis has covered the southern regions of russia, putin is already worried, in fact, entire enterprises, residential areas are being shut down, there are shutdown schedules, by the way, yes, mr. oleksiy, i would like to talk to you about this topic, this is this very short, this is

the effects of the blows? in terms of energy facilities, is it possible that there are some other reasons why these blackouts are starting to happen in russia and schedules are being introduced? well on the russian dictator has already said that there is a problem with bitcoin, that everyone is actively mining there, well, that is some kind of stupid, of course, but there was also a rather serious heat, there were blows, but they were local point and there was an exit of a nuclear unit on rostovskyi. .. au really, well , come on, they invest money in their analogues and weapons, but they don’t invest in infrastructure, sometimes they show this, they built something there, but in fact they also have an old system, an old infrastructure that can't stand additional loads, as a result they had emergency modes, which were accordingly engaged schedules, potentially, this is the fact that they invest their ivans not much, but invest in the war.

thank you, mr. oleksii, oleksii orzhyl, head of the kyiv office of the energy community secretariat, former minister of energy and environmental protection of ukraine in 2019 and 2020. thank you, and i remind you that we are asking our viewers and listeners today, do you approve of biden's decision to withdraw from the election race? and we ask you to continue vote. here are the interim results: 82% of our viewers think biden did the right thing. and 18% think that it is not, then we pass to our colleagues from the bbc, be the press in the future.

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