and thinks exclusively in terms of his own, probably, political career and his own idolatry, and not in terms of any visions that concern the future world in general, but this person says that we have not had any power for three years, we will have it with donald with trump, what the politics of the united states will turn into in general, if we see such a level of a cult of personality , it is safe to say without exaggeration. well, let's start with the fact that this is pre-election rhetoric, we are in ukraine, and we are discussing it now the american elections as something extraordinary, i repeat, they will really have an impact on all world processes, but in the absence of a political process in ukraine, it is really more interesting to watch the american elections, but... here it is precisely the words of speaker johnson

that remind me very much of the words of president poroshenko and president zelenskyi, who also said during their pre-election rallies that they would end the war in two weeks, so let's compare what was said during the pre-election. campaigns and by what actually happens after it. one more piece of news, by the way, which concerns international relations this time, kuleba, the minister of foreign affairs of our country is going to china to discuss the cessation or possible ways of ending russian aggression, it became known this morning. in... so, this visit

will take place on july 23-25, allegedly at the invitation of the minister of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china , wang yi, and of course, the main topic will be russia's aggression against ukraine. so, if we speak in this context, mr. viktor, we we understand that china supports russia in one way or another, well, of course, not directly, but informally. yes, and we understand that china is playing its own game, and to a certain extent it is not entirely profitable for it to stop the war at the moment. in this context, what can we do, what can we discuss with china, and with what positions or proposals will mr. kuleba go to china to discuss the actual russian aggression against ukraine. i do not know

the details and schedule of this visit, but i can assume that it is a slap to the kremlin side of china, and i will tell you what my hypothesis is based on, literally two weeks ago we remember that indian prime minister modi flew to moscow. and india, in fact, is exactly the country that is trying to pull russia away from china, so that russia does not focus exclusively on dependence on china, and in this case, we know, first of all, that there are even territorial, er, some conflicts between china and india and regarding. i

think that in this case, this kind of reception, which arranged for the prime minister in fashion, vladimir putin just forced china to somehow in a way to show diplomatic disagreement, let's say, with the fact that, so to speak, without sanctions from china, russia can conduct similar... negotiations, this is my version, of course, but it is very similar that it was exactly this, this reaction, and because of it was so quick, such a quick invitation to minister koliba came, to beijing, that is, relatively speaking, such a yellow card to the kremlin, or even we can expect the closest... that in the near future,

at least weeks, months, some certain curtailment of support from china, what about china, russia? well, i don't think china globally interested in the end of the war in ukraine, because he now perceives the war in ukraine exclusively as draining resources from the west and primarily from the united states of america, which they have declared as, well, let's say, not strategic , now an enemy, but a strategic adversary, so in this case it is necessary to understand that china, for china the war in ukraine or the russian ukrainian war, is a war somewhere on the periphery, for them it is important what

is happening along the lines of their relations with the united states of america, you remember that sit the horse during'. speech then announced that there is now a bipolar world, where there is china and there is and where there are contiguous states of america, all the rest are a large periphery for china, respectively, and all the processes that take place on this periphery, china considers exclusively in the paradigm of it is on the hand, it strengthens the position of china, or it weakens the position of china, and in the given. russia, which in china's opinion weakens the positions of the west, plays right into china's hands, and mr. viktor, finally, i would probably also like to remind you that we are closely monitoring

the council of ministers of the eu, from foreign affairs, there they communicate, in general, on the topic of our energy... capabilities and air defense for ukraine, and mr. borel has already managed to note that the first and interest from frozen russian assets will arrive in ukraine already in august , this there will be about 1.4 billion dollars, and this money will be used to purchase weapons and ammunition. this trigger moment is very important, we are entering a stage. war, when in fact we will fight with the russian federation at the expense of the russian federation itself. very rude, but somehow we are we will do it thanks to our partners. what can it change and should we expect it at all? it's a sore point for russia, it's

a sore point for vladimir putin, of course we were counting more on the fact that we... money actually for the money of the russian federation, not just for interest, but you know even the world bank was against that the frozen assets be used as an opportunity for ukraine, for ukraine to buy weapons or to support ukraine or for reconstruction, so this process, this process is still ongoing, discussions. well, i think that the final decision on how to use the frozen russian resources will come only when the geopolitical situation is clear, if ukraine starts to win, and the western countries,

our western partners are convinced that ukraine will win, then the issue of using frozen russian assets will be resolved. thank you, mr. viktor, for joining us on the air, and for your thoughts, viktor shlinchak, chairman of the board of the institute of world politics, was on the air, and ukraine will continue to talk about the most important topics, at home, so to speak, and beyond, in general, in the world, you, our dear viewers. and listeners, we 're asking today if you approve of biden's decision to withdraw from the race, especially if you've been following his recent public appearances, yes, if you, if you approve of his decision, please dial 0800 211 381, this free of charge, if you do not approve

of such a decision of biden, then 0800 211 382. i emphasize once again, all your calls will be free. but your opinion is for us priceless and we already have the next guest ready to join the live broadcast. this is oleksiy orzhyl, head of the kyiv office. of the secretariat of the energy community, ex-minister of energy and environmental protection of ukraine in the 19th and 20th years, mr. oleksiy, we are pleased to welcome you, good evening, good evening, and let's start with the usual situation in the energy system of our country, in particular the minister of energy, mr. hlushchenko stated that the system, that the situation in the energy system will continue... in the near future, he stated this during in the last hour of questions to the government, let's

listen, it was said that after the 20th the situation will improve, and it is true, i confirm this, that with regard to the terms of the nuclear power plant, repairs of the nuclear power plant, we have a repair company built in such a way that the nuclear generation, the one that is on the controlled ukrainian territory, it was working. full staff during the ozp, during the autumn-winter period, and accordingly, all terms are adapted to this. mr. oleksiy, how do you assess the prospects for the situation in the ukrainian energy system from your point of view, we hear different thoughts that there will be an improvement in august, someone is talking about...that in september, october we can generally go to minimal outages, minimal schedules, or

no at all, that's your opinion, is that really the case, what should we expect in the next two months at least? well, in fact, the question of disconnecting or not disconnecting consumers, because, unfortunately, today we already balance the system by disconnecting consumers, we simply do not have balancing capacities that can be simply started and turned on. the network when it is necessary, the situation directly depends on whether we have consumption peaks, that is, we have a dormant heat in ukraine, accordingly, consumers have the opportunity not to turn on the air conditioner, they use less electricity on the one hand, on the other hand, certain units, and accordingly there is more power that can be provided to consumers, as a result such factors affect whether or not there will be blackouts, indeed. in the period of autumn and spring the lowest levels

of consumption, because there is no peak or cooling air conditioners or there is no heating peak, that is, when people turn on the heating devices, so if everything goes well and the repair site will be carried out, that is , repairs will be carried out according to the plan, then as a result we may really be in minimum restrictions or potentially. some days pass without restrictions, but let's remember that we have a terrorist and a completely crazy neighbor next door, who are criminals and he destroys civilian infrastructure, and let's look at the fact that they, for example, started bombing our and destroy our infrastructure not at peak load, when it was in december or july, now we had peak loads due to peco, and they started just in april, when after all ... such a system was more or less not well, in the mode when it does not need additional power, that is, it is also difficult

to assess why it is, and there was such an idea that he simply did not want to make such a picture for europeans and for the whole civilized world, when someone freezes there, and he systematically began to destroy our energy infrastructure, but let's not forget that these terrorists can strike again and any targeted full-scale attack. the situation in our system, and we understand that he will once again try to put internal pressure on ukrainian society, we all feel that precisely the limitation of the supply of electric energy affects people, has a negative effect, so if everything is normal, we will carry out the repair program, we will really be able to repair the volumes that were laid by our energy companies, we will conduct a repair company energa. therefore , we prepare that we really pass, and it is very dangerous when we pass on all

the blocks, and there is always the largest block in reserve so that, in case of an emergency, you can connect the reserve block, we arrive at the entire warehouse of equipment, unfortunately, because the resachists created such conditions, ugh, and if we do everything like this, we will have less restrictions, but restrictions, unfortunately, even with all, well, possible and impossible actions, they will be in winter, when there are peaks of consumption, but again with... they are nearby and they continue to attack our infrastructure and a large-scale attack can change absolutely everything. tell me, please, mr. oleksiy, maybe explain the mechanics of this. because people ask, and you know, not being an expert, i understand these questions completely logically: several large shopping and entertainment centers in the ukrainian capital have announced that they are abandoning generators and switching to actually purchasing imported electricity by at least 80%, that is, they will always have everything necessary

for work, for existence, and so on, and this will release and... from planned shutdowns, unfortunately, nothing like that is shining, well , for household consumers, and, as far as we understand, the vast majority of ukrainian industry, and how does it all look, that is , someone asks me, christ, explain, and what is some kind of alternative network, where only imported electricity can be connected there, or is it injected in a dosed way, how does it get into absolutely specific objects, explain: please, because people are asking? well, actually, it's, well, not that simple a question, but i'll give it a try it is easier to explain: we have a requirement that if the electricity supply structure includes 80% imports, then this consumer is not disconnected. the total volume of this imported, well, what can be imported now through the crossing between countries, is 1.7 gigabytes,

that's 1.7 nuclear blocks, that is, we have up to two blocks that can be imported. if you want to get such electricity, exclude yourself from the lists, then you need to find an electricity supplier. we have quite a few suppliers of electricity and make the appropriate request, and i i think that not all suppliers have the opportunity to buy electricity for export, but let's say this, the big players know how to do it, they buy electricity on foreign markets, then they have to buy the intersection, that is, the network. well , the state, so that the import they bought, well, for example, in hungary, so that it conditionally enters this intersection, and this intersection is 1.7 gv, is no longer possible, and further, accordingly, if this supplier has supply contract with the consumer, he receives this electrical energy where there is 80%, and

accordingly, this consumer is not disconnected, of course, this kind of electricity is more expensive than the electricity that we... receive today from the supplier on a simple schedule, but many businesses and many industries are really taking this step, and this is logical, because sometimes stopping the technological process is much more expensive than paying more for such and such a proportion of imports of 80 and 20 of domestic production, and at the same time, again, this resource is limited and not all suppliers are able to supply it, i i think that someone is actually possibly abusing the market, because, well, again, there is a supplier, this is a competitive market, which tried to provide a competitive price, and a large supplier can conditionally buy there, having more financial resources, organizational resources in foreign markets, but this is competition, there is really a war going on for the consumer, and if a conditional mall says, i

need such and such electricity, i don’t want to turn it off, but then they... turn to the supplier, the supplier finds such an opportunity, well, here is such a mechanism, uh, well given those rate hikes and so on, will that electricity be much more expensive actually imported than what people are currently buying that is generated within our state? well, now it was just the heat, there were also prices in europe, it was 25-30% more expensive there, and... there may be an interesting situation in that the price may be lower on foreign markets than here, considering the fact that we have a physical shortage of electrical energy, and there may be a situation when there is a lot of green energy that is generated, for example, during the hours of maximum solar radiation, and it turns out to buy cheaper there, it really happens, because the market really works there, but unfortunately, i think that

the consumer will not fully feel the effect of this, although you will see... that there are lower prices, because the supplier who will try to attract imports here, accordingly , there will be more competition for the crossing, other participants will try, they understand that it will be cheaper there, they will try to compete for the crossing, that is, they will raise the price for the crossing, sometimes it happens that you bought a megawatt/hour for €30, and the crossing can cost €150, that is, in order for this megawatt, which you bought cheaper abroad... to somehow be able to import it through the interstate crossing, you start paying much more for the crossing, so in reality it will not be cheaper there, because competition will increase. and i think that this difference is somewhere around 25, 30, 50%, which should be additionally added in order not to disconnect the consumer. mr.

oleksiy, i wanted to talk to you very briefly about the blackout in russia, that is , we understand what is happening in our country rockets, shelling, war, what do they have? they are not doing well, in fact, and a massive energy crisis has gripped the south. russia, putin is already worried, in fact, entire enterprises, residential districts are being shut down, there are shutdown schedules, by the way, but mr. oleksiy, i would like to talk to you about this topic, this is very briefly, these are the consequences of strikes on energy objects, are there possibly any other reasons why... these blackouts are starting to happen in russia and schedules are being introduced, well, on the russian dictator already said that there is a problem with bitcoin, that everyone is actively mining there, well, that is, it is some kind of

stupid, of course, but there was also quite serious heat, there were shocks, but they were local point ones, and there was an exit of a nuclear unit at the rostov as, and indeed, let's face it, the russians invest money in their analog weapons, but they don't invest. additional loads, as a result of which they had emergency modes, which were accordingly involved schedules, potentially, this is the fact that they invest their ivans not much, but invest in the war. thank you, mr. oleksiy, oleksiy orzhel, head of the kyiv office of the energy community secretariat, ex-minister of energy and environmental protection of ukraine. in 2019 and 2020. thank you, and i remind you that we are asking our viewers and listeners today, do you approve of biden's decision to withdraw from the election race? and we

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asked him the same question for four weeks in a row, when every saturday we slowly got to the point where this probability grew, and i specifically said that indeed, if it were to happen, it would have to happen before the end of july, and so, frankly speaking, most likely, given all that pressure, taking into account the fact that the funding was further limited to baine, taking into account the fact that... in fact , the governors and a number of senators, congressmen already opposed his candidacy, this meant that, as they say, time or medicine has gone to the bottom, to hours, the only thing is really sunday, well, such a day is not exactly, in my opinion, politically active to make such an announcement, but we have what we have, really

the american press, by the way ... predicted that such an announcement could be made on the weekend , so rather, rather the expected, but not on sunday, well, let's go, but i thought that on sunday after churches, this is exactly what will most likely happen, ayder muzhdabayev, by the way, our colleague ztr thought about the same, well, but less with the fact that a few days earlier or later, it is not so important, indeed, colleagues from the bbc quite rightly noted that at a certain point, the monitoring of every movement... of the current american president entered such a level that he no longer allegedly had the right to make any mistakes, and i do not know how to evaluate the cognitive abilities of biden or the same donald trump, but the language now it is about a certain uncertainty in the election campaign, kamala harris, the current vice president, she is supported by the current president joseph biden, she has already

collected for herself in fact... in this election fund a rather large amount, i just don't know procedurally, will this be in addition to the millions that have already been secured for donald's, oh, sorry, joseph biden's company, there may be a legal conflict, and in fact it has already been reported in the american press today, that this could be a problem, maybe will have to overcome some legal conflict for that. in order to avoid the courts of litigation, in fact there, we understand, this is the united states of america, there they can only sue accordingly, and if sued, then accordingly these funds will simply be frozen for a while, in case kamala harris, then a woman, and a woman in fact, to whom both minorities can react quite sensitively, and...