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to life on a quad bike for the 93rd kholodny yar brigade in the direction of chasiv yar. congratulations, immediately after the murder of the former linguist. deputy iryna farion on friday in lviv, it became clear that the key to understanding who is the mastermind of this murder, why was it committed at all? so, in order to understand this, it is necessary to follow those information companies that will start after this actual murder, and if you can say that inside ukraine from ukrainian political forces, there are no signs of such, you know, planned information. no campaigns
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no one, nothing, well, people reacted normally, fully expressed, someone expressed their condolences, someone, well , some, you know, expressed assumptions about what it could be, but there are no planned such directly malicious campaigns, but with on the part of russia, these companies exist, well... to, for example, understand why iryna farion could be, well, such an interesting figure for russian informatics, well , it is enough to look at how russian propagandists characterized her, how they characterized her death, in ukraine with two shots at the odious iryna farion was shot in the temple, the former people's deputy of ukraine became a symbol... the killer was waiting for farion at home in
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the center of lviv. the moment of the attempt was not recorded by surveillance cameras that were disconnected due to power outages, but zelenskyi's administration has already announced the russian trail. probably, in her childhood and youth, she became that complete, distilled fascist who hated everything russian.
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it is difficult to say who is behind her murder, but the fact that they destroyed one of the yellow and blue furies of modern ukraine with a bloody underarm that's true. well, this is a symbol of anti-russianness, and this is basically the main idea, why this figure and this person could be interesting, as well as the target of some attack. i have already said more than once, and i will repeat it again, that now all... efforts not only of russian propaganda, but of the entire military machine of russia in general, are focused not so much on victories on the battlefield, but on an attempt to somehow undermine internal stability, internal strength to resist in ukraine itself, and everything is used for this, including the bombing of ukraine, and missile attacks, and direct acts of terrorism, for example, the attempt to kill children, when
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they shot at an ahmadite, and now, when they literally aimed at a children's playground, well, it's simple, that is, they constantly aim at some very specific objects that could cause, well, some such, you know , primarily an emotional reaction, and therefore personal terror in this regard is also the same tool that russia can use, especially since a kazakh oppositionist was recently killed in ukraine, and here too, well, we can say that it the story is not fully understood, and very much so a similar murder when shot in the street, well , that is, the methods are very similar, so personal terror and attempts to use it for this kind of intimidation to destabilize society, this is in principle quite the same. what can
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russia do, well, as a state whose terrorist methods are known and which constantly uses terrorist methods, and in relation to the murder of farion, it is clear that several lines of information have been chosen, well, in particular, the two main ones that i want to talk about, of course , the main thing is not on the tv, the main thing shaking things up, trying to somehow shake them there is going on in social networks, but on russian tv we can see reviews of this, because what they broadcast through social networks, they are trying. somehow speak to yourself and on tv, well, the first of such lines is an attempt to somehow, you know, yes, show that it is as if some kind of split between ukrainian speakers and
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russian speakers in ukraine has reached such, you know, tension that political murders have begun, well complete, of course, delusional, but this is exactly what they are trying to show and this is exactly... are now trying to shake it, and russian propagandists are talking about it accordingly. the identity of the attacker has not been established, but there are many versions. farion was hated even by dry land for her radical statements. she called for the disposal of the entire russian-speaking population, including soldiers of the ukrainian army who refused to switch to the language. even nationalists from azov hated farion for his radical statements. azov fighters , after she suggested the russian-speaking members of the battalion to move to siberia, declared her a real the war farion complained that azov's leaders had already resorted to open threats against her . in this desire to destroy everything russian, farion backed herself into a corner and got involved in a language conflict with the militants of azov. and here
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, suddenly, the ideologue of ukrainian nationalism is killed just a few months after her open conflict with practitioners in a bloody round of internal clashes. she invaded azov at one time, and apparently , the azovs took revenge. the fact that cars are now burning manhunters all over ukraine is no accident. well, guesswork, of course.
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that azov's fighters could have been involved in the murder of pharaoh, well, this is complete delusion. because the conflict was in november of last year, and somehow since then no one has touched farion and nothing has happened at all, well, on the other hand, you know, i would say such disputes in social networks, we have a lot of them, and this is absolutely not an excuse to kill someone, in principle, everyone understands perfectly well, but what is not accidental in all these stories is that along with the murder of farion. they mention setting fire to military vehicles, this is not accidental, that's why what does this indicate, i would say that these companies are being conducted from one place, they already caught several people who simply set fire to these cars for the money of the russians, well, you know,
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that's how they actually burn, when they tell and put in one row is one thing and another, that's it and do what is called conclusions, yes. this is one such story, the second story, which the russians are trying to shake, is talk about how it is somehow so beneficial for the ukrainian authorities, in particular zelenskyi, and the most charismatic assumption is that zelenskyi took revenge for the fact that farion spoke about him, attention, in 2019, when he was a candidate for the presidency, for a long time, i would say, he waited, well... a frenzy is a frenzy, and an attempt to pull, roughly speaking, an owl on the globe, here with the russians few people can argue, well, that’s how it is, that’s why it sounds long, the relations of the ardent russophobe and nationalist farion with the ukrainian authorities have been very
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tense recently, there were grounds for insulting farion and zelenskyi, she publicly called farion biological garbage, for russian the language also got to... zelensky himself, so in in 2019, she demanded that zelenskyi, the candidate for the presidency of ukraine, be jailed for speaking to voters in russian rather than ukrainian. farion called zelenskyi... exclusively it, it does not forgive anything, referring to zelenskyi, there is an expression here: to kill two birds with one stone, here to kill a whole herd of hares with one shot, because firstly, a martyr, secondly, problems arose, because what farion said recently shocked even many who saw ukrainian politicians, thirdly, to satisfy to some extent beasts instincts i can make a whole list of what
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the ukrainian government got as a result. plus, no one canceled the revenge. well, none of us has any doubts that a russian propagandist can invent a whole list of all sorts of petty things, and in fact, they did, the most probably funny, invented by one of these fugitives from ukraine. journalist, former, volodymyr skachko, well, you know, when you listen to it, you understand that this whole idea is possible, those people for whom skachko worked in ukraine, this is now being steamrolled by the russians, because it sounds as idiotic as possible, to whom is the signal, to me it seems that one of the reasons for this murder is to screw up the nuts and start looking for some...
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well, kirov also moved here, you know, skachko always drank a lot, i can see that he started drinking even more, apparently, and i have already said that, in principle, the main activity of the russian propaganda machine is now in social networks, and therefore i want to talk about this with the researcher of russian social networks, an analyst from the cat ua analytical group, olena zakharchenko. congratulations olena, good day, well, tell me whether somehow you see some signs in general, well
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, some revitalization in social networks, namely in relation to her farion, in relation to her murder, well , you know, some, you know, directed attempts to conduct some certain lines there and campaigns, so it was interesting such a thing, if... in retrospect, russian social networks were not interested in farion at all, that is , there were exactly zero mentions in russian social networks since the new year, but what we talked about in relation to sphereon, we talked about her release, was there, you know, renewal and so on, all this was completely uninteresting to them, but in june, from somewhere in the middle of june, unexpectedly... interest in ferion grows sharply on russian social networks, so they begin to discuss her statements, her
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quarrel with danylko, her old statements about azov are brought up again this conflict, although it was a long time ago in november, but the russians suddenly remembered it and began to spread it all in social networks, for several weeks there was such a preparation, farion began to be mentioned, by the way, not by the way, farion began to be mentioned by bots in the likes under under the posts and in your comments. i.e., if earlier they wrote some abusive words there, the bandera people, the khokhls, and so on, now they farionists started writing, it’s just that farion is actively being brought back into the russian information space, farion and her conflict with azov are very actively being reminded of russians through social networks, through visible telegrams channels, through youtube videos and so on. accordingly, on the 18th and 19th, when she was attacked, and then she died suddenly. will increase, that is, a sharp jump begins to immediately accelerate its version murders the first, of course, is the revenge of the azovs,
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and it remains the main version in russian social networks now, that it was the revenge of those azovs who wanted to speak russian, but she forbade them, and this version is accompanied by a military correction and the fact that the murderer walked in the yard, he was not afraid of the tsc, in ukraine now no man can go outside, because he knows that he will be caught by the tsc right around the corner. and the fact that there is a military facility nearby, and so on, then there is huge hatred, huge hatred for all ukrainians, in connection with the death of farion, they, well... they said that the ukrainians were angry, because when a russian was eaten by a shark there, they started laughing at the russians, and when such tragedies happened, the ukrainians there rejoiced that something bad had happened to the russians , when kiev was shot there, for example, ukrainians laughed so partially, in fact, there are very few jokes about farion, the main array of posts, comments and
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messages in telegram channels, this is a huge hatred of ukrainians, huge anger towards. ukrainians, we never have, as long as i work with ukrainian social networks, i am like that i didn’t see it, that is, it is not characteristic of us, it is simply beyond the limits of any human concept of any things, that is, a very big hatred, then at the same time several versions are being developed, that is, azov’s revenge, this is just their main version, then the second such notable version is zelensky’s revenge and... zelensky’s attempt to take the nationalists, as they say, out of the country, to completely clear the space before the peace negotiations that he will conduct with trump, and tsarev writes about this in great detail in his posts , says that they say it's killing two birds with one stone, if you persuade some azov, as zelensky did to shoot farion, then this is both the destruction
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of the main nazi of ukraine and a reason to start persecuting azov as a nazi. and at the same time tsarev himself, if you look at his blanks, it is true, they have already been corrected, but they remain in the system, if you look, you can see that at first when he received the information about the attempt on her, he even somehow felt sorry for her, he was confused, he said , it’s a pity, he wrote, but literally every day his rhetoric changes radically, well, the dark ones have passed, and he writes this version, pretends that zelensky did all this, and besides, there were literally some fantastic versions. murders, which they say are personal enmity, criminal feuds, she was a great volunteer, collected donations and stole them, and there is also such an exotic version that july 19 happened to be the birthday of a well-known givi, and this is the day of revenge of the lpr, dpr , so-called, who gathered and took revenge for their leader who was once killed
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by ukraine, now they killed farion for this, but at the same time, if you take away... telegram channels and their official rhetoric and read some comments, the russians understand very well that they did it, a russian did it, they are proud of it, they offer to collect money for the killer, they say hands about our agent under the wanted portraits and so on, but every time under such and such some bots come, they say no-n-no, this is kakhlysami, that is , in fact, the russians do not need to open their eyes that they did it. they, i think, they understand it, and are proud of it, but the official rhetoric will always be, it was done by the ukrainians, no matter what version the next propagandist takes, it will always blame the ukrainians. well, it seems to me that it is very interesting in general, first of all, this is your first observation that the very activism regarding farion preceded her murder, that is , the impression that there was really some kind of
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informational and such preparation at the level of social networks at the level of... at the level of such warming up, well and it is interesting that it was broadcast from russian social networks, this is, well, i think it is quite an interesting thing, because, well, it at least speaks about the preparation of this murder, not only that, but then it is not some kind of personal animosity and absolutely personal things, well at least such an indirect evidence, one can say such an indirect proof, well, it is very interesting. well , secondly, yes, you see, you confirm what we highlighted with ours, well, with our turn, that the two main lines, i would say that indeed the azov line is probably the most priority, and it is interesting to what extent do you see them getting this line out, at least pushing it into
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the ukrainian information space, can you say something here, because... of course i saw some people, well, they just didn't like pharion personally, they said something about her write, there are some discussions under their posts, of course i want to say that despite the fact that these people very often have nothing to do with azov, or this is their personal opinion, well, they should have enough sense, at least understanding , that this topic... is still being used by russian propaganda, well , at least to keep silent and limit it somehow, but - if we talk about the same thing, then promotion through trolls, through bots. how massive is it, or can you comment on it in any way? well, russians, they are the last sometimes they can have a weaker influence on our
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social networks, not as actively as it was before, and for ukrainian social networks, they do not present everything as straightforwardly as they do for theirs, that is, they do not write about the ponsto of the ldnr, they do not write directly about azovets, because for our people it sounds funny, but at her death they... find dividing lines that can advance on us, first of all it is language, that is, language is raised again, they say, how is it possible and so on, and the topic of language always causes certain quarrels in ukrainian society, it is traditional, it is one of the topics no matter what, it immediately starts working, that is, through various pseudo-patriotic communities , very aggressive and abnormally aggressive, non-ukrainian aggressive, promotion begins. no promotion and some kind of threats, insults and so on because of such things, to divide, if a quarrel were to start again, the speech, in addition, there is such a thing that they
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are launching, that they say it is the green government that is dealing with its enemies, when they would criticize us the government and say that there is a green government and so on, that's what these things are always work, that is, we traditionally have a great, great such potential. critics of the government, and there are many people who will immediately pick up on this and criticize the government, they will not think about the topic, the green government killed the farion, thrown to them by the russians, they will simply think that they are against the government, they are now against the government, that they are patriots, and they are against that, and they will remember there and that the government did this bad thing and that, and that the message itself was launched for them, warmed up and... quit in the right places by the russians, somehow they will not be embarrassed and they will deny it, that is, they will say: so what, it is the russians, but it is true, the government steals, the government does it,
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that is, the russians can play on this topic, there is also such a here is the topic of russian-speaking soldiers, that is , not directly the azovians, the azovians are not directly accused, but they blame in general that there are russian-speaking soldiers in... with azov and so on, it is possible again to raise and there is another line of division, which , unfortunately, the russians throw at us, i don't know how it goes, because it is a fresh topic, it literally started recently, it is hatred of lviv residents, of refugees from the east, in russian public and russian telegram channels. the thesis that at the funeral in kharion they shouted that, as they say, refugees from the east, get back there, and other such slogans against them, and i
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have not yet seen this in ukrainian social networks, but there is a lot of this in russian, that is, on temi farion are trying to pick up all the old lines rifts that used to exist in ukrainian society, tie them here and let ukrainians quarrel about it, well, it's interesting that... for example, the topic about the fact that this is something the government is cracking down on, well, it's obvious that this is so for ukraine, the authorities and farion, and the authorities specifically did something there, farion did something, it sounds as idiotic as possible, because , of course, he is not an active politician who cannot really do anything to the authorities, let's be frank, but yes, but i just wanted to say, you know, this is the second time. we with in this regard, we are watching how the russians burn their own networks in ukraine, they have a network of telegram channels, and those that
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were made by the main intelligence management, or the main intelligence management of the russian federation, these are all cartels legitimate and also eyes namely, telegram channels, they were once shaken by what they write, well, that is, the russians themselves created them, they finance them, they write their own things there, and then they themselves try to tell that this is what it is, look, this same with ukrainians are writing, and here i saw exactly the same thing again on russian television, how they tell, why are you watching this, so let's watch it, well, because well... it is as funny as possible when they burn their own telegram channel in this way and of the show refer to it. that's what's interesting. ukrainian
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telegram channels write that the version about the involvement of russians in the murder in farion is being spread by the pro-terminated top of kyiv, deliberately. rumors spread, which caused many to suspect that the cameras near farion's house were not working, an ordinary guy was not were able to catch he did not look like agent 007, but the entire media network of the bank began to blame the russian special services for this murder. many are sure that if he is not caught alive, then... the customer is not the kremlin, someone from the highest echelons of the ukrainian government, and, interestingly, this was written immediately after the murder, and only then did they realize that there was a power outage in ukraine, well that is, the cameras were not working, there was a tsk nearby, there was a military facility, they show that they do not understand the reality of ukrainian life at all, that is those who write this and such conspiracy
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theories, they absolutely do not understand what is being done here in general, well, unfortunately, they will never understand it, i think so, and their versions will fail like this and will not quite convincing, but in principle they are not doing it for us, if you look at where they write the most, then after the telegram, it will be, it will be their network of classmates, where they mainly push such propagandistic things of theirs, vkontakte, on blocked , and very, very little is written about it in... such in x and v there is almost very little to be found on facebook, that is, their versions are aimed at the internal audience, well, at us there is a split, language, east and west, and so on, that is, topics that worked for us before and that can be heated up now with this murder, well and behold i also wanted to show that this is
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again the technology that they are trying to use. it is the creation of petitions, well , it is obvious that, for example, among those who left, there is a whole network of viktor medvedchuk, which still has some citizens, that is, former citizens of ukraine, who have some addresses, have something else, they can create petitions, but they show off how they created the petition, as idiotically as possible, and they rely on it a lot, so that they can do the same. campaign, you know, to arrange some kind of such, let's show it. listen to what's happening now. petition on zelenskyi's website to name maksym zhurin's third assault brigade as farion. well, these petitions appear and disappear there. it does not matter. 25 thousand. 25,000, and zelensky is at a crossroads, or he appropriates it, and they tell him, and what is this, he
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rushes into the protests of azov residents. because no names, all the patriots say, you see, he ignores our patriot and does not name her, so she was right, calling the azov people muskrats, pig dogs, that’s all, well , they will sell to the kremlin, as such, you know, a whole campaign, money, probably , they already took it for granted, for the fact that something was registered somewhere, well, it's very, i think, somehow so ridiculous, but the kremlin finances it, well, what can i say. is happening, and the last thing i want to show you is actually how they are burning about who did it, because here is just a direct indication of who actually committed this murder, let's look at the references there about bozyna, and bandera, and about anything else, ukrainian
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journalist, writer oles, killed in 2015 by nationalists in kyiv... well, we'll see you again, well, you know, history, so be vigilant, you understand that such things, well, we, we must be ready even for such terror and somehow still respond adequately to it, understand what can happen and what the russians might want to do, that's it see you

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