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we are ready to send you spare parts, just think through croatia, or wherever you were. montenegro, you had good ends somewhere, so i want you to think quickly and we would sign a big contract with you as soon as possible. even after the full-scale invasion, boguslavov continued to supply engines and other spare parts made by a ukrainian corporation to russian attack helicopters. from the first days of the war, he ordered to dismantle the heter... so that the ukrainian forces could not use them. october 18, 2023 the sbu completed the investigation and submitted an indictment against boguslaev to the court on four counts, including aiding the aggressor state and collaborative activity. in turn, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, deprived boguslaev of the title of hero of ukraine and introduced sanctions against him. and a few days ago, themida confirmed the transfer of boguslaev's assets into state ownership, among them... 14 objects of real estate in
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the zaporizhzhia region, in particular residential buildings, land plots, rydny restaurant, administrative buildings, corporate rights in several companies, the motorbank financial institution, 336 firearms and funds in the amount of uah 615 million, but all this will not cover the damage that this supporter of russia has caused in ukraine, we hope that if bogoslaev is proven guilty, themis will impose a severe sentence on this agent of the kremlin term. it was a program of collaborators and i am olena kononenko, if you want to tell us about the kremlin's progenitors, write to us at this email address or just on facebook, together we will send all the traitors after the russian ship. see you later a week on espresso.
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glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, on espresso tv channel, studio zahid program, we will analyze the most important events of this week, in particular, we will try to predict how american, and therefore global politics may change as a result of the no longer ephemeral coming to power of donald trump in the united states. our guests today are matthew bryza and andrii pionkovskyi. matthew bryza, ex-adviser of the secretary of state of the united states, former director of of european and eurasian affairs at the us national security council. glory to ukraine, dear mr. ambassador, glad to see you. glory to heroes. well, assassinations, an attempt on candidate donald trump. we understand that there are much more questions in this story than it seems at first glance, but the key story is how it can affect not just domestic american stability. how it can affect global world politics and... cream on
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the russian-ukrainian war. we understand that donald trump, thanks to his injured ear, is doing well now almost a winner in the race, and that also worries us because the current president of the united states can act as a so -called lame duck. this is a dangerous situation, primarily for ukraine. i think the impact of the assassination will not be long-lasting in terms of the sympathy it will generate among the american electorate. so the immediate effect, of course, is to energize trump's supporters, and i think he's probably attracted a lot of undecided voters by looking so strong and determined, but the real problem is the weakness of president biden, the physical and mental weakness, who is now unfortunately suffering from the coronavirus. i think that after the debate with donald trump, biden looks too physically weak for americans. to
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do their job, or even win an election. and i think that's how it is. as long as biden remains the democratic nominee, i think it's almost 100% certain that donald trump will be the next president, and the democrats still have some time to either nominate someone else candidate, like camille harris, she's the most obvious, or have a short, something like mini primaries, where several democratic candidates could run against each other and try to become the nominee, but that would require president biden to agree to go to resignation so, again, to sum it all up, the assassination of trump got him some short-term support, but i think in a few weeks people will forget about the assassination and all they 'll remember is that trump seems much stronger physically and mentally, between biden. yes, i agree, both candidates, so to speak, are not the first... of political
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freshness, but the situation can be, well, just kidding, critical for ukraine, and we already have a new vice president of the united states, and we understand that he is not belonged to sympathizers in... the country donald trump promises to offer his plan, donald trump's plan will always rest on what and who rules in the kremlin, so this is a very, very difficult situation, but as you see the unfolding of the current situation, when we are talking about the ukrainian issue and the russian-ukrainian issue war in the united states, that is, these are now some extremely hot, extremely hot months, they may be decisive. and putin will never miss this window of opportunity. yes, sorry, forgot to answer this question. first, on a cautiously optimistic note, it's important to look very carefully at what vice-presidential candidate jaydivens said about russia's war against ukraine and the nato alliance.
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the good news is that jay dimens, unlike president trump, has never questioned the importance or value of sadness. the nato alliance. nor has he ever said that he does not want ukraine to win the war, or that he wants russia not to lose. he didn't say such things. his main argument was that the united states should not give ukraine such a disproportionate amount of aid, much more than the us's european allies, because the european allies live next door to ukraine. he makes the argument that if european allies had continued to spend on defense after the cold war on. 30 years at the same rate they were spending, they would spent, he says, about $8 trillion 600 million more on defense than they were spending, and so he argues that if the us spends about $1 trillion a year on defense, and the europeans overall lag behind by
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$8.6 trillion, then they have to catch up, in other words, they have to catch up with the us, but in any case it is clear that jd vance will support president trump's position on ukraine. yes, trump has repeatedly said that even before he takes office, he is essentially will put pressure on both sides to push for a cease-fire, regardless of whether it means ukraine having to give up its russian-occupied territory. and you know that trump obviously always had sympathy for vladimir putin, as well as for other strongmen of this world like viktor. it is currently unknown to orbán what exactly is included in trump's plan, but orbán, as we know, visited trump immediately after the nato summit, saying afterwards that he was aware of trump's plan, and so orbán went to meet with putin. it seems that orbán is trying to play some kind of intermediary
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role in the implementation of trump's plan, but the bottom line is that if trump wins, we will definitely not see the same level of support as the $60 billion that was ultimately acceptable to ukraine. well, that's cool, we in ukraine would not like to be cheated by big and powerful world players. we understand that the issue of the russian-ukrainian war is not only a bilateral russian-ukrainian issue, it is an issue around which the whole world is currently working, only a significant part of that world, unfortunately, can support putin, and accordingly, what should we do right now so that we are not replaced by those people who will support this plan of viktor orban. in fact, this plan is most likely agreed upon in moscow and beijing, it is not easier for us in ukraine, and we just have to survive and win. actually, i would like to ask you what is the danger of viktor orban's so-called plan and whether there are prospects in general for this plan
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to be pushed through, promoted, imposed on ukraine by those environments that may or may not be related to trump. izani, but if about the plan orbán is so... talked about a lot in different cabinets, the european union completely rejects him, which means that this may be a certain trade offer from the kremlin. orbán has not announced publicly what exactly his plan contains, but it can be assumed that it will be a kind of ceasefire, under which ukraine will definitely have to give up some territory, maybe, i don't know, it could be something similar to the so-called istanbul offer in march 22 of the year, according to which it seems that ukraine weather. remain neutral never join nato, russian troops will have to withdraw their units from the territory they have occupied since the full-scale invasion, and the future status of crimea and donbas will be determined in the future. this was a preliminary offer. i don't know what orbán's proposal includes, but
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it doesn't really matter. i don't want to sound impolite, but i will say that viktor orban is nobody in this matter, just the leader of a small central european country. he has no authority. charles michel, president of the european council, came out and said the same thing. he said that orbán has no authority. the legal department of the eu said that orbán would violate. eu policies, eu rules and eu legislation, so he has no authority to negotiate on behalf of anyone, and as charles michel also said, nothing can be decided about ukraine without ukraine, so orbán's plan is irrelevant, it will only become relevant in the event that trump is elected, who will accept him and try to impose on ukraine, but i do not think that the european allies of the us are like on that, and how that difference in ... views between, say, donald trump's washington on the one hand, and brussels, paris and rome, for example,
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and then london on the other hand, will be played out. i can't predict right now, but i personally think that orbán's plan means nothing if trump doesn't support it, and orbán just makes it clear that he is no friend of the transatlantic family. yes, i agree with you, but on the other hand, everyone is aware that orbán will not play orbán. like orbán, he does not play any important role, so here i completely agree with you, but he is an emissary, he brought what was agreed in moscow and possibly in beijing, i don't even fully understand, yes, because the so-called istanbul agreements or negotiations, or rather yes, well, they were based on that russia is withdrawing its troops from our newly occupied ukrainian territories, yes, and the issue of crimea is being postponed somewhere, well, and accordingly, the complete disarmament of ukraine. but putin is now returning to the so-called istanbul talks, but completely changing them, actually
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changing them and bringing them to absolutely absurd of some kind, which consists in the fact that they are going to annex those territories that they did not even capture, that is, putin's current talks about a new istanbul, so they are completely irrelevant to what was said then and so on, we understand that putin is leading his game, and the current situation... for him, this is just a new platform that he wants to land on, after maybe donald trump would become the president, so that's how i see the current situation unfolding. i completely agree with you. if we recall march 2022 and the istanbul statement, the main representative from ukraine at the negotiations said that he was ready to accept a compromise on the spot, but his russian colleague had to return to... moscow to get approval, which he never received. so now putin, as usual,
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is lying and pretending that russia was ready to accept the previous wording. now, as you just said, mr. borkovsky, putin is not even talking about the original istanbul wording, but about his method of action. in interview with tucker carson, putin said something incredibly outrageous, especially for an american with polish roots like me, he said that poland had attacked russia, or the soviets. union in september 1939, that is , once again completely twisting history, as in the case of katyn, so he does it again. putin is acting as if ukraine should have agreed to the annexation of these territories, which russia did not even occupy, and is trying to appear peaceful, hoping to create the necessary momentum with the help of orban's emissary. and yet i think he will fail, is the truth on the side of ukraine? one more thing about orban. for many years, his foreign policy was based on special relations,
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including economic and currency relations, both with moscow and beijing. a former senior hungarian official responsible for this policy told me that they didn't want to talk about it publicly, but it was something they did with their hands. to a large extent, it's just money flowing to orbán, not substantive policy. dear mr. ambassador bryza, what are the prospects for holding the so-called. of the second peace summit, so we understand that the kremlin says one thing publicly, behind the scenes they send other signals, so there is a feeling that one or another indirect negotiations between the main capitals of the world are going on, and yes , i didn’t want it to be at the expense of ukraine, but in any case, there are prospects for it to be a successful second peace summit, something like what happened in switzerland, but with a very specific fixation of certain parameters. i don't think it has any prospects at all if success means
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a deal the country will accept. i remember how worried i was during the first presidency trump, when it was clear that he was trying to get a deal with putin behind ukraine's back, which was some kind of compromise, maybe like the istanbul statement, in exchange for some cooperation from putin in syria. there is always the danger that if trump is elected, he will try to make such a deal. with putin without consulting ukraine, but this will definitely not happen at the peace summit, this is an agreement that does not meet the interests of ukraine, and it is obvious to me that the european union as an organization. and the vast majority of its member states do not want the result of the peace summit, ukraine was forced to end the war, if it is not yet ready for this, there will be some pressure in this direction if there is another such peace agreement from some participants, but i do not think that the european union and nato support forcing ukraine to end war without liberating its territories
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on its own terms. dear mr. ambassador bryza, how is it right in ukraine for our... president in our ukrainian government to do the right thing in the current situation, well, because we understand that donald trump is not donald trump per se, and it is not even the republicans, we understand that there are very different approaches in the republican party of the united states, yes, donald trump is boris johnson, yes, who recently met with him, and elon musk, and in general, it represents a certain economic and global environment, and we understand what it will voice. things, maybe by himself, maybe it will be some kind of collective decision, a collective manifestation of a certain political will, and i really would not like donald trump to say: "listen, you are in ukraine, i give me a month, two or three, then agree on something with the russians, otherwise i will not give you help." yes, we understand that not giving ukraine help is driving a stake into our
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back, that is, the situation is unpleasant, but taking into account how trump can negotiate and... this can happen, and that's why we need to act as soon as possible. first, boris johnson doesn't really have any influence. even elon musk can be the richest man in the world and have the most more twitter followers or x than anyone else, but he doesn't no real political power. so now he has decided to support the course of donald trump. trump is the one who will make decisions in the government of the united states. states and it can indeed do exactly what you mention. in my opinion, ukraine can continue to do what it is doing, but perhaps it should be stated more clearly: we are a sovereign country with a democratically elected leadership. therefore, dear mr. trump, if the united states, god forbid, were attacked by mexico, canada, or anyone else, you would
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insist on the right to fight as long as will be necessary to restore your territorial integrity. at some point... the ukrainian leadership will need to clearly state this. at the same time, of course, ukraine must win on the battlefield. yes, we, the us and europe should provide the promised weapons systems, but ukraine definitely needs more soldiers on the battlefield, which is a very difficult domestic political issue in ukraine. so, i would advise ukraine to speak clearly and clearly, and b) win on the battlefield and continue to put pressure on the usa and europe. to put pressure on europe, in particular because trump and owens are actually right that for too long europe has not spent enough on its own defense and has relied on the united states to carry the burden, which is essentially a huge tax imposed on the united states by its allies. president zelensky would be wise to find a way
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to strengthen this argument. the us has done a lot for us, but europe, maybe trump is right, you need to do more too. if president zelensky had made such an argument, trump might have been more sympathetic to him in case of re-election. well, i recently spoke with the former marshal of the polish senate, bohdan borusewicz, right? well, when i said that the european union, well, it was appropriate that they give more money, yes, because there is a situation that could become critical after the arrival of trump and after he will conduct his negotiations, to which borusevich said: yes, well, we understand that the united states is still... richer and they have bigger budgets, so it's kind of a story, yeah, and donald trump, i don't think he came up with some kind of new scheme, newer than what i will announce it now, that is, he will tell our official kyiv: listen, you must do such and such, or i will not give it to you, he will tell the russians: listen, you must go to negotiations, otherwise, we will give ukraine additional weapons,
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lethal ones, and maybe allow us to strike deep into russian territory, not 100 km, 500 or ... 1000 km, so this will generally raise the stakes, but knowing, for example, putin, he just, i don't know, will conduct regular ballistic or tactical or non-tactical nuclear weapons training, after then we will be on the threshold of the caribbean crisis, after that everything will decrease, the level of stakes and the level of aggression, but i have a fear that all this will happen at our expense, i simply do not see that putin is ready to concede something, maybe i am wrong . returning to the comment of the ex-speaker of the polish senate, it should be noted that it does not completely cover the whole picture. the economy of the united states is not as large as that of the european union. european. the union has a stronger economy. the problem is that the member states have not decided have defense budgets as large as those of the united states. this is exactly what
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trump is talking about. you have money, you just choose not to spend it on defense because you rely on us and our own welfare to cover your defense needs. so, european union, you need to use more money to take care of your own defense needs. that's the whole argument. if. the polish politician does not interfere with this, which means that he does not really pay attention to the political realities that will come after the election of trump. how would putin react? on such a possible deal? i agree that most likely this would be trump's approach, although we don't know, probably we can analyze what is happening now and what happened yesterday, but predicting the future is very difficult, and yet, let's say that this the scenario would be exactly this. yes i agree. that putin will make more threats with nuclear weapons, but i worry less and less that these threats will work. as my former
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atlantic council colleague peter dickinson wrote in a recent article for the atlantic council, see how putin behaves in the black sea. ukraine , in fact, having no fleet, destroyed or disabled a third of the black sea fleet and forced russia to withdraw such a large part of it from crimea back to russia that now the army... war experts in great britain say that the black sea fleet is essentially no longer operational . putin has threatened nuclear retaliation if force is used and attacks occur in crimea. but eventually he did what every bully does, gave up and retreated. i don't think there's any chance he'll ever use a tactical nuke weapons he will never use a serious nuclear weapon, but if he used a tactical nuclear weapon, it would change everything dramatically. let's remember. as bill burns, the director of ceru, went to warn him about a year and a half ago that if russia uses tactical nuclear weapons, the united states will not stand
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aside. of course, there will be some nato member states that will step in and destroy the russian armed forces occupying ukraine, but that's not the scenario anyone wants to see, and i don't think we'll ever get there. well, we simply see how historically putin is in a hurry. that is, if putin is in such a hurry, we can see. this is based on the situation on the front line, he does not spare people now and constantly drives them to attack in the donetsk direction, this means that putin wants to meet his certain deadline, both literally and figuratively, and that's actually what it is for putin's deadline. i think that the presidential elections in the usa are definitely an important milestone or marker for putin. i don't know if they 're a deadline for him, but he's very hopeful that whatever we're talking about... said will happen if donald trump is elected president, and then, from his point of view, support for ukraine will be much less, and this will give russia more chances to avoid
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defeat, but there are also internal uncertain terms, no one knows what is really happening, putin is sure doesn't know, but right now, as vice-presidential candidate jd vance pointed out in an article he wrote last february, russia produces more artillery shells and basic weapons than... the united states and the eu combined. i mean it's about three or four times that more. consequently, the us and the eu have allowed their defense industries to reduce capacity by investing in non-military defense. but we see that the situation is beginning to change. first , the german companies say, "oh, yes, we have to produce military products, weapons and artillery shells." then, as in the past for german companies, it was always a kind of political taboo, that is, they stayed away from the military. context through germany's nazi past. so gradually american and european factories begin to produce more and more weapons. it will take a little time, but russia is able to produce
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so much ammunition and weapons because putin directed 6% of russia's entire gross domestic product to the defense sector. he has reorganized the russian economy so that it is completely military-oriented , and this can last for a very long time. how long? who knows. but the russian people also suffer from the fact that they have much less money for health care, much less money for elderly care, much less money for education, and even a dictator like putin must not forget the possibility of revolution. there were many revolutions in russia. no, russia is not on the verge of a revolution, but he knows that he cannot continue the intensive militarization of the russian economy. every day, when the entire russian economy is concentrated. in the military sphere is another day that takes russia away from the opportunity to modernize its economy and acquire the technologies it needs to compete on the world stage after it
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is finished. this is a terrible invasion of ukraine, i don't know when this deadline will be in putin's head, or when this deadline will be in russian society, i don't know, but it definitely exists somewhere there. thank you very much, dear mr. ambassador bryza, for this brilliant conversation and for this extremely important analysis on the air of the tv channel. and i want to remind our tv viewers that matthew bryza, ex-state counselor of the united states, former was working for you now. director of european and eurasian affairs at the us national security council. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. vasyl zima's big broadcast. my name is vasyl zima, this is a big broadcast on the espresso tv channel. two hours of airtime. two hours of your time. my colleagues and i will talk about the most important things. two hours to learn about the war, about the military front, the component. serhii zurets, and how the world lives. yuri fizer is already
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generally raises the problem of the internal rearrangement of america to an unprecedented level, and trump's victory is already becoming a reality, although the current incumbent president, joseph biden , is holding on with dignity, but there has been another rather significant, symbolic election in the united states. trump has already appointed jaydy vance as a potential vice president, and this figure may indicate certain parallels. lines voiced by that viktor orban himself, that is, everything is extremely serious, and we see how actively putin is in a hurry. yes, you are right, this is a very important political event, a very important election indicator, trump's choice of vice president. we remember very well his activity in blocking aid to ukraine. he hates ukraine the most in the american congress. for the last 5 months, he did not leave
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the television... screens from the meetings of the congress commissions, spreading all kinds of lies and hatred towards ukraine. about the fact that aid is stolen, that in a totalitarian state 20 parties are banned in ukraine, and prominent christian preachers are imprisoned by the ukrainian authorities. it was he who influenced the republican fundamentalists, of whom there are quite a few in congress. and actually, he did not add any electoral advantages to trump, because in the party itself, we know about the report of the heads of the three commissions, mccall, rogers and turner, about how to defeat ukraine. they sharply criticize biden for insufficient support for ukraine, and from the point of view of average voters, they never pressure trump to be against ukraine. for the overwhelming majority of trump supporters, ukraine doesn't exist at all, they hardly know where it is. and the
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republican establishment is named in person. i , the leaders, are very strongly in favor of supporting ukraine, so the appointment of this person shows how dependent trump is in this position. it's no coincidence that orbán, trump, and now his new vice president, vance, are a team working hard on a plan to surrender ukraine. trump's so-called 24-hour plan is essentially putin's plan to force ukraine to give up territory and agree to a ceasefire. we understand that the plan of presidential candidate trump is quite simple, that is, he would issue a certain ultimatum to our leadership and would issue certain proposals to the kremlin, and the key story, this is in our ukrainian case, it is a matter of resources and support with ammunition and weapons, and so on , as far as russia is concerned, i don't know, trump would threaten something, right?

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