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reviews on the functioning of the ukrainian language, some of her statements caused loud public discussions, this is what our correspondents were told about her in lviv. i understood that her position is something that is unchanging, and when it comes to irina harion, there are only two ways: either you respect, love and admire her, or you despise her, you hate her. she was very true to herself, that is, to her unshakable principle. she always said that everything she does comes from her deep convictions. the fact that she was shot is what i have the feeling that a part of me was shot, and i think the same is felt by thousands of people who are in ukraine, and hundreds of people, maybe thousands who came here, her death is also a challenge for all of us, because now we have to take over her mission and to defend all of ukraine.
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such a general in this field, but we can try to be majors, colonels, officers, sergeants, at least, played a very big role. in my life, because he is a man of great strength and great inspiration, and this is a very big loss for all of ukraine, it is big pain, i did not know her, i knew her wisdom, creativity and her scientific works, my ukrainian soul today. i was simply orphaned, because i don’t know,
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for me her videos, these reactions, analyses, these political views were simply a source of the strength of the ukrainian truth, so i watched and gained strength, although she always told the truth, she inspired so much to fight, just strength, strength and i don't know where to take this strength now, ukrainians will smile. vadym denysenko, political scientist, ex-advisor to the minister of internal affairs joined our broadcast. greetings, thanks for joining. i congratulate you. mr. vadim, in your opinion, and again, what versions can you consider, who could benefit from the death of iryna farion? well, in principle, we have to wait, of course, for the versions that the investigation will give, but with a high degree of probability, i think, again, i am only speaking my personal point of view, i... that obviously, after
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all, we have to look for russian traces and it is necessary to look for the russian, exactly the trace of the russians, why them? because in principle, judging by everything they had, they had a calculation that after the murder of forion in ukrainian society, especially in its ukrainian-speaking or in the ukrainian-centric segment , quite large battles will begin between those who were supporters. those things, those ideas, well, those things for everything that iryna farion did, and on the other hand, those who treated it, she, i will put it mildly, controversially. actually, there was a lot of calculation on this, and in addition to everything else, it was believed that the russians probably still believed that all this would lead to the start of a new wave of discussion about the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the ukrainian government and volodymyr in particular zelenskyi, but in... in principle, the russians
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once again showed that they do not understand ukrainians, and in fact, as such battles did not take place, as such a surge of hatred for the authorities did not take place, and in fact we can talk about the fact that and some, i mean those who were sympathetic to ferion's activities, and those who, either controversially treated it or did not pay attention to it at all, in principle, they united, among themselves in one single the idea that the russians are apparently behind all this, so from this point of view the idea of ​​the russians definitely did not achieve the goal they wanted to achieve. mr. vadim, we have several different versions in the chat under this broadcast, there are several comments that this is beneficial to the authorities, and they mean the ukrainian authorities in particular, what is right or wrong with this version, how do you feel about it, or can you justify well, i can't justify it. because i consider it
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idiotic, that is, from my point of view, are there people who always believe in conspiracies, who will always see in everything that it was done by the ukrainian authorities and on... or anyone else the other, well, to be honest, the logic in general is to blame the ukrainian authorities for this, well, to be honest, no more than it is logical to blame us for this. uh, mr. budanov, kyrylo budanov says that this murder is a challenge for the whole society and that the enemy seeks to use any tools to divide our nation, this is a quote, like here, what is the logic, again, you say about what is there... russia does not know the ukrainians there, but if we use mr. budanov's words, what is the essence of russian actions, how can this murder disconnect, is it on the basis of language, or is it a search for some internal enemies, what could be
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the logic of the russian forces, if they are really involved in this? well, i already tried to explain, that is, from my point of view, the logic of the russians was as follows, that is, in principle, iryna felion was. a person who did not leave many people indifferent, that is, many believed that her words were the truth in the last instance and treated her very favorably, well, in principle, what we saw now at the farewell to irino ferion speaks about that what a large mass people really supported everything she said and did, there is no less a large part of ukrainians who considered her actions, i repeat , controversial, and therefore from this point of view... a person died, a person died, did not die, died and was vilely killed by the russians, but nevertheless, the russians believed that these two groups, the ukrainian-centric groups
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of the ukrainian society, would start quarreling with each other, would start quarreling with each other, and, in other words, the shit would begin, that is in in this case it was primarily a calculation... among it was a calculation by the russians who did this murder, and maybe there could be a goal or not, you rightly said that we don't know what the investigation is investigating and what the public will be told , and as a result of this investigation, but as one of the options that this is an attempt at intimidation, because the way it was done, it gave chills to a lot of ukrainians, who may or may not have shared the views of iryna farion, but, in general, it was a murder in itself and that it was in the yard and how it was was done, it is valid. cannot simply ignore the fact that it may contain, as it were, some such moments for intimidation, perhaps a proactive part of the ukrainian population, activists there, perhaps politicians, does this version have the right to live? well, if they could intimidate someone,
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then from my point of view it is clearly not large masses of people and even more so not pro-ukrainian activists, so i would honestly. saying, i would not reject this version, but i would not put it as the main one, because basically, everything we see after the death of farion, it shows us about the fact that there is no panic or fear among those who consider themselves or are activists, among those who in principle supported or did not support irina forion, well, to be honest, it was not noticeable, and therefore, you know, i am always in these sometimes i remember the words of mykhaila kotsiubynskyi. which for the first time, during the first meeting of the movement, back in the distant 1980, i forget what year, the soviet authorities made a provocation and announced that you should all leave the hall, because a bomb was planted here, and then, in principle, mikhalina khamivna stood up and said that ukrainians
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were never afraid of traitors and were not afraid of meanness, that's why even then the meetings of the movement continued, and actually speaking... everything happened the way it happened, so from this point of view they really tried to dispel this intimidation in social networks, indeed, many people were led by the quote about the quote from bots about how in the center of the city a person is killed, but unfortunately, in principle , these are our realities, unfortunately, a large number of ukrainians are killed in our country every day at the front, and unfortunately, in principle. it is part of a non-hybrid, and a real war between the russians and the ukrainians, there is still a difference here at the front, when it is russian attacks, and there is a difference when it is, relatively speaking, a city that is already far from the front, and it is not a russian attack, and it the man, as
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he says, as the sources tell us about the investigation, that this is a man who came to this yard more than once, that surveillance cameras recorded this man, that is, it was some kind of repeated action, and here ... there are opinions, i'm sure , you have also met them, which is scary not so much from the fact that this fact of murder has happened, although it is really terrible event, and how much from the fact that the criminal and the performer and... the broadcaster may not be found at all, that ukrainian society may not learn these names again. why does it happen that we are now learning about this high-profile case from media sources, and not from the law enforcement officers themselves, and do you think there is a threat that ukrainians will not learn the details of who ordered and who executed this murder? well, look, first of all, i'll repeat what i said before, i didn't see any fact that i'm not aware of anyway. a person who would scared, who would stop going out, who would say that that's it, now i
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have to move to another country because this tragedy happened, this tragedy happened, so i wish we just didn't overdo it now and did not talk about fears that do not really exist, that is, if they exist, then they exist in a very small part of ukrainian society, this is the first, second in relation to your question, i think that it should be forwarded to the national police, which according to this ... should and should inform, i am unfortunately incompetent here to answer something, it is definitely, definitely, it is also a question for the police, yes, but in general you have as a citizen, as a political scientist, as an ex-counselor, by the way, the minister of internal affairs, maybe you can explain from this point of view , should communication, even when there is no new information in the investigation, take place, perhaps more often, perhaps more openly, so that society at least understands that the investigation is ongoing, that searches, searches, for example, continue, and, that is, how? it must happen so that people at least have an understanding that something is happening, the case is not forgotten and not closed. well, i
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am sure that the case is not forgotten and not closed, i am sure that the investigation is taking place. communication decisions are made by the relevant people directly involved in the investigation, who may have much more operational information that tells them that there is no need to say anything now, or conversely, that something will need to be said at some point. therefore, i say once again, this is a question that should be addressed in... exclusively to the national police, and there are moments when i really understand that for a while it's time to take a break, because as far as i understand, the last communication on this matter was two days ago, and to say that the national police is not saying anything at all, well, to be honest, it does not correspond to reality, so for now i think that talking about the fact that this case was closed, this case is not being conducted, well , this is completely nonsense, it definitely does not correspond to reality. what i'm saying is that no one says that the police don't say anything, but that the main information that
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society is interested in today, we get it from media sources, today we cited public information, for example, and, that is, we could, conditionally speaking, get this information from a recusant, again to you, as an ex-advisor to the minister of internal affairs, simply from experience, how it should have happened there, and whether it would be true that every day there is a search for the perpetrators of a specific crime, there are fewer chances that the person... will be found, because i have heard that in the first day, if they are not found, then the chances really increase less, do you agree with that? look, i know cases when is solved by hot leads, and there are cases where a murder is solved after a long enough period of time, so in principle we can say that yes, indeed, a large number of crimes, not only crimes, are solved by hot leads, complex crimes can ... to reveal much longer, and here you need to have an evidence base and many other things, but i say once again that here in
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this case, it is probably still necessary for the national police to communicate, and you should ask them these questions. moreover, i, as adviser to the minister of internal affairs, former, i did not deal with criminal matters and i did not deal with police issues, that is, in this case i dealt exclusively with issues, it was purely your opinion that was interesting, only from this side. to have time to clarify, we have a minute left, nevertheless, in your opinion, what iryna farion was for ukrainian society and what she became after this murder, has this history changed for ukrainians, in your opinion? well, it's hard for me to answer that, i think that exactly the same as before , for many she was great an authority, just as for many she was not such an authority, i do not think that the role of iryna farion itself has increased or from... well, i am more than sure that unfortunately, in principle, her doctoral dissertation
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on the problem of the ukrainian language is quite interesting 17 - the 18th century, in principle, is unlikely to be mass reading, well, at least because of the specificity of the topic itself and because of the fact that here you need to have sufficiently serious professional knowledge in order to read it and understand what it is about, but i will repeat it again, it for many remains very a serious authority e. thank you for joining our broadcast, vadym denysenko, political scientist, ex-advisor to the minister of internal affairs, and we talked about the investigation into the murder of iryna farion, this is... freedom of the morning, we are with you every weekday from 9 o'clock we ask important questions here to those speakers who have answers, sometimes they don't have answers to these questions, but we continue to ask them, because they bother society and we can see it in the comments under our broadcast. thank you for being with us, thank you for subscribing and sharing this content. see you tomorrow, take care. again these outages. did you not
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is already with us, mr. volodymyr, we congratulate you, good day, i... i understand that you are already on vacation, well, vacation no, we have there are no vacations, but a break in the session is definitely announced for three weeks, which in principle is not quite adequate for the work of the parliament at such a time, what can this three-week vacation or break be connected with? i think that in this case it is obvious that he was serving the people. split on the issue of the adoption of a law on the banning of the russian orthodox church , and in these three weeks i think that they will try to do something in order to, or at least hope that, as in the famous eastern prykasa, either shah or ishak will die or
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pillow, so at this point i think they 're going to... try to somehow channel this story with the church ban bill, but i'm pretty sure they're not going to be able to do that. the second point is the consideration of the budget resolution, if the parliament does not consider it on time, it is considered that the parliament adopted it by default. that is, if it doesn't happen by august 11. consideration in the parliament of the budget resolution, which proposes a reduction of social expenditures, more precisely, a reduction of social expenditures, which is proposed on 25-27 years of reduction. financing of the armed forces of ukraine, then this will mean that this budget resolution has been adopted and, accordingly, it will already bypass the parliament, and it is clear that then
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the budget will already be built for the 25th year by the ministry of finance, the cabinet of ministers in view of this resolution, yes that's why a break is needed, at the same time, there are a lot of necessary bills pending, including those for the armed...for ukraine, bills that specify, in particular, the issue of mobilization of 25-year-old conscripts under 25 years of age, and this story happened now it is acute enough, it is on the agenda in society, because in fact there is a hidden mobilization of people under the age of 25, despite the fact that the legislation sets 25 years as the lower limit, that is, there are a lot of draft laws that are not considered, and now three weeks, in fact, i don't know, maybe we will see someone at
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the olympic games in paris, it will be very interesting who will go there, let's see, maybe someone will go to the sea under the guise of a business trip, but i will not be surprised by anything, however, we see that the parliament is now the leadership of the verkhovna rada... and the office of the president simply level him and make him incapacitated. well, the office of the president, they have always competed with the verkhovna rada for the level of influence, but never before have the leadership of the parliament been puppets almost so much in relation to the office of the president, allowing to do with the verkhovna rada, a constitutional body, everything that replaces the office of the president. which is not a constitutional body, eh, mr. volodymyr, you know, if you talk to ukrainians who are far from politics, who
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have nothing to do with journalism, i don’t know, with public activism, they are there from time to time they keep an eye on, somehow , news from the political sphere, from what happens in the verkhovna rada seeps into their bubbles, they say, yes, all the people's deputies are the same, and... and even because yesterday happened, but they will say the same, well , all those deputies are the same, couldn’t they have already banned this ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, three and three years into the war, in our country, it works quietly, and these fsb agents in ryachy continue to zumbat, again the same ukrainians. well, we really can have. in society is used to some kind of generalization, and in relation to everyone, all deputies are the same, there, well, you can say, all teachers are the same, all
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doctors are the same, all energy engineers are the same, that is, in principle, it is from a small mind, because all people are different, and in within the limits of one profession or social group, there can be completely different people, and that really. some are ready to fight for and are trying to fight for the adoption of bills that are necessary for the security of ukraine, while others, at the same time, either oppose them or are an amorphous mass, as it has grown, as in every country there is a verkhovna rada, the verkhovna rada is exactly that, in fact representatives of society and a certain section. she personifies, so we should really talk about the fact that everyone is the same, everyone has the same powers in the verkhovna
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rada, but believe me, all the deputies use these powers differently, someone decides the issue of the pie, someone creates draft laws or exposes corruption for that too. .. followed by their families, there is another scandal with one deputy, your colleague, sorry if i called a colleague, a deputy who has the surname zhupanyin, you his a woman, who burned it on instagram, was photographed against the background of various shop windows in luxurious areas of london, and somewhere in the image of that shop window it became noticeable that next to her was a man, a man and a member of parliament, who appears endlessly in london. he is probably involved in volunteer activities, but recently there was also an interesting story about a volunteer who bought himself a super cool electric e-car, a brand new, so
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what... it's called an orange rover and brought as many as two mavics on it, and the dude had a great ride behind the border of this system is a path, well, in a word, it is abundant i just don't know the information space of ukraine with such stories, mr. volodymyr, how easy is it for you to go abroad now? to the euronest meeting, the euronest assembly, this is a joint assembly from the countries of the eastern partnership with the european parliament, and for the second time in moldova, a joint event of eastern european parliamentarians on the issue of financing and digital technologies in
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election campaigns are organized. the national democratic institute and the international republican institute of the united states of america, and due to the fact that i am not only a people's deputy, but i also have the rank of an extremely important ambassador , i am prevented as much as possible from being able to travel abroad for my own activities, i i don't go abroad during the war, i rested. ugh. and everything, everything i did, i did it really in order to hold the necessary meetings in order to help ukraine, or to participate in international events that will help in the future, to create new legal conditions and to implement the legislation of ukraine in accordance with the european one. so, about that. colleague, so to speak,
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who went to london with his wife, took a picture in the shop window, well, let's give him the darwin lady award, in principle he deserved it, and you know, not so long ago, the first electric rolls-royce was spotted again in odesa and i assume that this is mr. vatsak, also a well-known deputy and confectioner, i don’t know, i bought it during the war for 700. in a car, how can it be, and then they say that people do not like deputies, first they are elected for candy, probably, well, and then, actually, people elect them, as they are, well, what could not be understood that a person who, besides, does not ride on zhigulis , and it is clear that a person who has a big b should drive, even if i don't know what, a lamborghini, i don't know, extra mega class.
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they cause people a just and absolute irritation, well, next time you have to look at who you choose and choose not only because, well, you remember, in the 19th year , tuzyk put in... under the name under the brand servants of the people would be elected, and therefore, in this case , this will be a lesson for all citizens so that they elect persons, and i will not discuss the big question of when those elections will be held, because i understood from the last interview of president zelensky that it is not soon. mr. volodymyr, thank you for the conversation.

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