when we work, the lights are turned off for 7-9 hours, it happens that during the entire working day there is only one and a half to two hours of light, and we have to work on the generator all the time. a generator is the must-have of any ukrainian entrepreneur, because nowadays it is literally like having no hands, and at the same time , huge funds are needed to maintain this miracle machine. per day, the generator consumes about 10-15 liters of fuel. in a month it is estimated. costs uah 2,000. and this is very difficult to say now, because the days are different, and most of us work somewhere in zero, we are currently working to retain our customers. all products have become more expensive because there are no deliveries, everything spoils, you can't buy food, but thank god everything works here, our generator pulls, we prepare food, coffee and cold drinks, refrigerators work, everything is fine. such

small businesses become a real oasis for the residents of nearby houses, because when there is no light at home, it will probably be in the coffee shop, and there will be hot food, internet and maybe even air conditioning. a lot of people come to work, charge theirs devices, they also come for hot water, prepare food, store their products, we have a freezer that works, they bring meat. this summer i will demonstrate... it turned out that ukrainians should not be frightened not only by frost, but also by heat. children and adults all over the country are coming up with creative ideas to deal with the scorching sun and the lack of electricity, and they are sincerely and more than ever happy about the downpour, and although sometimes they are indignant and understand that such inconveniences are definitely not the biggest problem. no, i somehow control this process, like, i recharge before i do call out evil, well, like, all good in this sense, well, like. ok, we survive, well

, we try to live, not survive, so what saves me the most now is silpo, which has a cafe area, accordingly, it is crowded, but you can also use a charger, and the wi-fi is stable, that is, for example, yesterday there was no light, i was working from there, no, i don’t want to charge my phone, nothing, two hours is enough for me, i charge power banks, then i charge phones and... other things, and that ’s enough for me, i don’t need it, because 22 th year already got used to it, and that's why there is a power bank that keeps it, it's bad that there is no connection, it's not mine, it's difficult to pay with a card, and everything is relative, the main thing is that it doesn't happen like in my native place bakhmut, however, despite the positive perception of today's challenges , it is rational to also think about winter, encouraging forecasts are given, except fortune tellers, profile...

experts, officials and people's deputies are quite skeptical and are already hinting that it is not worth waiting for a miracle, and everyone needs to prepare independently. we think about it every day, but we will hope for the best, we thought about putting panels, batteries, but my heart tells me that everything will be fine. in the verkhovna rada this week, people's deputies adopted at least two important laws that also affect business, the first is positive: duties and taxes on the import of generators, batteries, equipment for wind and solar generation were canceled, but the excise tax on fuel, on the contrary, was increased. we predict that the increase in the excise tax on gasoline will take place somewhere within the range of uah 1.2, gasoline and diesel, and this is the contribution that all of you and i will make to the financing of the army.

supporting defenders is clearly the single and most important task of every ukrainian, but time will tell how long entrepreneurs will be able to balance on the verge of bankruptcy and continue to pay taxes for the good of the country. kateryna galko, andriy varstyuk, espresso tv channel. this is the verdict program. we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. if you're watching us on social media or youtube, bet. i like this video, i want to introduce one more of our guests, this is dmytro razumkov, native deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine in 19-21 years, mr. dmytro, i welcome you, thank you for visiting, good evening, thank you for the opportunity to be here today, well, first of all, since you were the chairman of the verkhovna rada from 19 to 21 years, i remembered that there was an election on july 21, 2019 and in that election you entered the servant of the people party for that election. you

won these elections, you became the chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but in the last few years we see the loss of subjectivity of the verkhovna rada. and the government, why did this happen for these five years, that from a team that was supposed to give hope to ukrainians, and that entered politics under the slogan of new faces, everything turned into some division of some office of some president, and the right question, the only thing i can say, that it started from the very beginning of the activities of the verkhovna rada of the ninth convocation, and you really have no idea how much i had to... make efforts to at least somehow preserve the subjectivity of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, this was, in principle , the reason why that the office of the president and president zelenskyi was eaten and removed from this position, but i recently spoke with one of the people's deputies from the servant of the people, he said: god, for what, let's say this,

while cleaning, making a literary statement, he said: for what bad things we are voting on today, i say look, you don't understand... how much effort it cost me so that such bad things simply did not get into the hall of the verkhovna rada and you did not take on yourself the negativity that today itself accumulates in they are glad, because they betrayed the council and turned it into a garbage dump they are trying to transfer all the negativity that is in the president's office and to the president personally, why am i talking about this, because today the verkhovna rada is not a subject, you are right to suffer, just like the government, we... many of you in it was said on the air that we have a department for approving legislative decisions of the president's office and a department for implementing technical decisions of the president's office, one is called the verkhovna rada of ukraine, the other is called the government of ukraine.

based on this, you and i must understand that today all decisions are solely in this one to the state is accepted in the office of the president, there by the president, his five or six managers. and the council, unfortunately, does not perform the functions provided by the constitution, plus, frankly, i am ashamed of what is happening today in the walls of the parliament, when people see that the deputies are not in the hall, let's remember my term of office and how many meetings there are, in including on friday, there were people's deputies, and the meetings were constant, regular, and what happens today, when during the war the hall is empty, when the law on mobilization is considered. in the hall 20 people's deputies, there are 25, half of whom are our colleagues from sensible politics, and today, when, well, there was supposed to be a meeting, well today there was supposed to be a meeting of the verkhovna rada, yesterday there was supposed to be a meeting of the verkhovna

rada, the authorities did everything to ensure that the verkhovna rada did not meet, and in fact, they did not plan to meet until august 20 of this year. moreover, to my questions and colleagues, why such a long break? the answer in the blank in the question, you know, in the void without an answer. i say, well, look, today people everyone works, works every day, they have no weekends, they have no holidays, there are no holidays from sunday to monday, as it was before, everyone works for the state, everyone works for the armed forces of ukraine, and the deputies must also work , first of all, i would like to, i know that those who watch us do not like deputies, but deputies are also different. who works, i am not only talking about my colleagues there, there are from our team, i am talking about various factions, groups that are within the walls of the parliament, there are those who work for the benefit of the state and for the interests of the state, and there are those who work for the benefit of the president's office and for their own interests, i understand that there are more others, but nevertheless, the fact that the council is not sitting

and working today is the direct responsibility of stefanchuk, as the head of the verkhovna rada council, for the sake of understanding, a corresponding resolution was adopted, where only he. as a single personality determines the place and time of the meetings of the verkhovna rada, and if there are no such meetings, this means that stefanchuk, as the head of the verkhovna rada, either agreed with someone that he should not work, or does not want to work on his own, to the verkhovna rada and to the ukrainian people, we have stefanchuk's synchronicity, how much talk was there before this break about the draft law on... the provisions of law number 83 71 with the aim of putting it to a vote in the hall as soon as possible, the parliamentarians will be engaged in other

activities , in particular closely related to the preparation for this draft law, well , you can ask the opposite, i understand that stefanchuk will not come on the air, because it will be scary. to answer truthfully, you ask him, or your colleagues, let them ask if he planned stefanchuk to hold a meeting after this, well , this friday and until august 20. 2024, was it in his plans and how was it affected by the so-called law on the church, was it not in the schedules of the meetings of the verkhovna rada, when they talk about the fact that they will work in committees, it is true, someone will work in committees , someone like our team, but when there were no meetings of the verkhovna rada, we tried to go to the front, to the south, to the east to our defenses together with the command of a reasonable policy. because it is, well, it is first of all correct, plus we tried to help as much as we could, we didn't

go to london, we went to other places, we went to almost on the outskirts of new york, but not to the one that our oligarchs like to go to, to the one that is in the donetsk region, which today actually ceases to exist, because it is being destroyed in a hurry, but returning to the chairman of the verkhovna rada, let's tell the truth. e committees will take place, but they will take place online, for example, i will give you a specific fact: last week on friday, there was no meeting of the tsk on fortifications and drones, this friday, as far as i understand, they are not planning to hold a meeting of the tsk on fortifications and drones, why is this happening, because zadorozh should have been recalled from the tsk, you have seen this corruption scandal, they will buy our... viewers , that this is a people's deputy of ukraine who was elected in sumy oblast, and he demanded a refund of 10%, there 3,400,000

uah from the road that he had, someone was supposed to build in okhtyrka, he had, let's say, to help people master this money, as far as i understand, well, nabu says exactly that, i am not i know, i'm not a court, i'm not a prosecutor, it's better for them there, but an agreement was reached that he would be recalled and replaced with another one. in order not to happen, moreover, they had to recall from two tsks where he is the chairman, in another tsk he is a deputy, but this did not happen, and again we do not have a meeting this friday, and most likely they will do it for that to delay this process. i am already silent, that the tsc is important for the meeting of the tsc, because the whole society saw in the kharkiv direction, hears from our defenders that someone on drones is very earns well, someone made money on the fortifications. on the forests that were allegedly transferred for fortification, someone made a very nice profit, i

am sure that fate was small, i went to the very top, and someone lives very well from this, especially considering what the verkhovna rada voted last week , i mean the bill 11340 in the first reading, where 231 people's deputies voted for an indulgence for corrupt officials, where you can pay from 2004. to the session hall this bill on the prohibition of the moscow church, and this is very this is stefanchuk's revealing phrase, why, because this is a government bill, that is, in principle, this bill should... should have been adopted much faster than it is being adopted. mykyta poturaev was on my

air yesterday, he said that there is a mistake in the decision of the conciliation council to postpone the issue of banning the uoc-mp until august and that the servant of the people has enough votes that can vote. let's listen to what paturayu said. this is a question for the members of the conciliation council, in particular for the members of the conciliation council from other factions of groups. why all of them? agreed with the decision to take such a break now, i believe that there was no need for this, moreover, according to our calculations, if today or tomorrow the law banning the russian orthodox church and its agencies were to be voted on in the hall of the verkhovna rada, then today would be would be at least 240 votes or tomorrow, mr. dmytro, what prevents the current government from putting the dots on this issue, i don’t know, i don’t know... they invite more to the conciliation council, because they don’t like intelligent questions there, and they

let them sort things out among themselves, because this resembles a terrarium of like-minded people and the behavior of spiders in a jar, because even if it is the representative of the monomajority, the head of the entire committee, let him decide on the position of his faction, with the leadership of his faction, stefanchuk, when he talks about finalizing this bill, well, i should have known that the time for submitting amendments is over, it was two weeks there, what they are saying now is just prolonging the process, why i say again, i am not taking up the issue of the church, any other bill, ask stefanchuk. next, he calls a meeting, did he plan to hold a meeting of the verkhovna rada from next monday until august 20 , 2024, and if he tells you yes, then let's continue this conversation, now this is an attempt to make a good mine in a very bad game, as always, but it is a lie and a lie that it

is also happening because the tribune is blocked there. or some other reasons, it happens because either they do not have enough votes, or it is an adjournment issue there, a government issue, or they cannot understand each other, or in whether or not they have enough intelligence to finalize this or that bill at the appropriate time, i don't know and i don't want to comment, that's their question, well, i'll ask you in a different way, can this issue be tied to... possible peaceful negotiations with russia, well, that is, the ukrainian authorities do not want to quarrel now and raise the degree of confrontation, i am not ready, i do not take part in negotiations with russia, i would still like to know more about such negotiations, because the same zelenskyi said that the church should be banned if they have one the position has changed, well, he has to

say about it, because it looks strange when the president's faction does not support him. his decision, that is, his initiative, was to ban the church, if the position changed in connection with the negotiations or something else, well , let the president come out, as it should be rightly done, and say that his position has changed, or on the contrary supported it, then he will not controls its faction, and the fact that the office of the president is not controlled today by a monomajority and does not control two groups, for example, the former opzh, or trust, or... for the future, or partly for the future, i don’t believe in it, they know how to negotiate with these factions, because based on what is in the walls of the verkhovna rada today, without a vote, at least opzzh, but at most, well the former, the former opz faction, now there are two groups, and two groups, or from time to time two

trust groups and for the future, they would not have votes if you look at all the votes of the people's servants. there, well, i don't remember, i think that there are probably not two years, 226 from the monomajority, this is a formal the lack of a coalition, but they, as they joke in the walls of the parliament, i do not like these expressions, that they have created hostages for themselves, on whom they somehow influence, but this is not democracy, it is very reminiscent of those principles in quotation marks of democracy, which are being fought against today, armed forces are fighting. forces of ukraine, destroying the enemy at the front, so that such a democracy, as is in russia in quotation marks, does not come to kyiv, to the dnipro, odesa, lviv, zhytomyr or other cities. on august 20, the verkhovna rada will somehow have to consider this issue, or introduce in the second reading this draft law, there is a position in the group of your reasonable policy, we will discuss it,

everyone will have their own position, the question is different, i am not sure that it will appear on the 20th. because a monomajority cannot agree on this among themselves, so let them be determined from the position of the president, who assigns them certain tasks. another statement made by zelensky during a meeting with the state secretary of the holy see, cardinal pietro parolini, he said that ukraine wants to end the war as soon as possible, let's listen to what the president said of ukraine. thank you for your participation in the peace summit, this was the first step, only the first step, or already the first step, all these steps are very important for us and it is important that you support them, and i heard your words, i think that we all understand that we must end the war as soon as possible, of course, so as not to lose

human lives. do they mean that there is some kind of draft of peace negotiations and it is more or less clear on what conditions should be agreed, because the issue of ending the war as soon as possible depends not on how ukraine will prescribe these conditions, but on how the party that is the aggressor, whether it will go to these negotiations or accept them, the rhetoric has changed a lot in them, i do not fully understand, moreover, it changes within the framework of each other. interview, he first says that we have to return the borders of 1991, in parallel, he says that we need to end the war and some peace plan will be presented by the end of the year, it's just... journalists must be poorly oriented in ukrainian politics , yes, he has a plan, zelensky's plan, not even ukraine's plan, this it's kind of, well, to put it mildly, i don't agree

with such formulations, because there are no plans of president zelensky there, there is a plan of ukraine, of the state, because the president is an institution, it's not a personality, and if the head of state has forgotten it, then you just have to read the constitution, of which he is, by the way, the guarantor, but returning to the question of... narratives, it has changed in general, because before that it was the year 91 and a full stop, and now we are starting to hear that there will be some other the plan, what was being considered at the peace summit, there were three points, some of which are not at all related to the 10-point peace plan of president zelensky, which will happen with the withdrawal of russian troops, we refuse it, keeping it. human lives, then let's sit down and talk about it publicly, that's the first thing, and the second thing is to answer the question, why wasn't it done there in the 22nd year, when there were

plus or minus the same conditions that changed, in what is the cause of this, plus those statements that come from the president when he says that russia is losing one ukrainian lost six of my, well... employees to one ukrainian soldier, to be honest, i thought that it seemed to me, i started watching this interview, i thought that maybe one of the journalists made a mistake, no, the president said that one of our dead is equal to six dead, rashits , okay, but then i discovered the ukrainian truth and looked at how many rashists died according to statistics, and divided it by six and got 93,500 ukrainians, and if so... the military, and if so, how is it correlates with the fact that months ago president zelenskyi said about 37 00, i don’t take it now, i agree with the position that it may not be

public information, but then it will be determined, because if someone else came out and said that we are changing plans there and it is no longer the 91st year, we are talking about the fact that it is not 37 thousand, and almost 100, then he would receive 111 treason, well, let's be honest. if any of the journalists or politicians did it, here i see such narratives, i'm not saying that it's good or bad, i support 100% that we should save people's lives and do everything to save both people and our statehood country, but if our plans change, we have to, not us, the president has to, because we had nothing to do with these plans with you, to show new ones and note them for the first time. the turn is not for international partners, but for ukrainians, ukrainians who are fighting for the survival of our state, the survival of our country and the preservation of our country, if we hypothetically assume that

such a peace agreement between ukraine and russia can be, or peace negotiations, obviously it will be some kind of an international legal document, and an international legal document must be an agreement, international agreement, it must be ratified by the verkhovna rada, do the people's deputies of ukraine have it? to also be participants in these negotiations in order to understand what kind of agreement it is, how to ratify it later, how, but here we are asking you reasonable and correct questions, unfortunately, unlike the office of the president, and any agreement, whatever it was not, it must be approved in the parliament or in a referendum, these narratives that are beginning to be heard that we will think about how to hold a referendum, i have a question, if you can hold a referendum, not through an action where... draw any result you want, but a referendum, so let's hold elections, well, the term of the president has ended, the term of parliament has ended, let's hold elections, because otherwise it looks

like manipulation, when they say, no, here we, you know, here we can, here we can’t, here we wrap the onion, eh, they are ready to hold a referendum and started talking about it, but no elections, i don’t believe at all in the possibility of holding real, well, real democratic elections in today's e-e conditions for a number of reasons: first - this is the fact that we have destroyed infrastructure in a large number of territories, where it would be possible to organize these elections. secondly, we have a huge number of people abroad, and under the terms of the law on mobilization, they will not vote because they will not come to update their data. plus, the third component is the military, who will not be able to vote. if we're talking about the election, if we're talking about the fact that in the office of the president... and on his knee there, some very smart manager will think of drawing the results of this election or this referendum, then this is not an election, this

is what is happening in... for example, there in russia, yes, where or in belarus, where lukashenko did what he wanted, putin did what he wanted, we , we are not russia, as leonid danilovich said, ukraine is not russia and never will be, and ukrainians will never be the way we would like to see putin or those who put him in charge, listen, we have had several referendums in my memory well, in march 1991, the majority of ukrainian citizens voted to be... six months later they voted vice versa. leonid danylovich, whom you have already mentioned, held a referendum on the bicameral parliament, on reducing the number of deputies, the results of the referendum were not implemented. in 2020, the servant of the people conducted a survey during the local elections, and also, well, they wanted it as a referendum, so that, well, the status was a referendum, but it was against

the law, even if they conducted it. referendum, then it would have legal consequences for the organizers of this referendum, and it will have legal consequences sooner or later for the organizers of this referendum, because until now it is not clear from what resources it was carried out, i personally do not believe that there will be a referendum, but i do not, i mean this, that poll and that in general it is like sand, like water in sand, i have this feeling that these negotiations and all these and the so-called peace plan of johnson and trump, which was made public, are peaceful, that this is the background of this great peace agreement between ukraine and russia, and that obviously in the 25th year we will have elections, and elections president, and the elections of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, as far as possible, taking into account those factors and those facts about which you said that there are many ukrainians abroad, that the voting will be well enough and not clear

, it is possible, it is possible if it is carried out. several conditions: the first is the end of the hot phase of the war, that's for sure, the general lifting of martial law and a return to normal life, most likely changes in the electoral legislation, because it will be quite difficult to hold elections under the current one. the following is the holding of elections according to democratic principles, according to which the entire european union and the democratic states of this world live with access journalists, observers, the return of people to the territory of ukraine, who today are outside the borders of our state, so that they can participate, plus the military, who also have the right to participate in the elections as candidates in the first place, and in those , who will make decisions, who will govern this state, so it is literally superficial and very short, regarding the fact that these elections from... were

elections, elections can be held only in a state in which freedom of speech, democracy, the rule of law, honest courts have appeared, and this is the difficult work that i think you and i will have to do, i will ask very briefly, short answers, you will go to the parliamentary , presidential, next elections, look, i am not engaged in elections now in general, i am engaged in ensuring that the state preserves. won and peace and victory came to our cities, but when there will be elections, i took part in all the elections, i think that the next ones will also be missed, thank you, it was dmytro razumkov, people's deputy of ukraine, former speaker of ukraine of the parliament, friends, we are working live and conducting a poll, let's see the results of the interim poll, do you think it is realistic to liberate crimea by military means, so 77% yes, 23% no, in 15 minutes we will return to the studio, viktor boberenko and

volodymyr prysenko we will be in the studio, tesya is with us, dmytro kuleba is in china for the first time during the full-scale war, a diplomatic breakthrough or leaning towards negotiations and whether the meeting will speed up. ministers of foreign affairs of ukraine and china ending the war. let's try everything analyze in today's edition of the bbc, i'm olga polomaryuk. the foreign ministers of ukraine and china talked for more than three hours about peace and how to achieve it. dmytro kuleba's three-day trip to china is a special event, because diplomatic representatives of both countries last met in china eight years ago. looking ahead, i will say that this meeting is in russia.