in the village of lebedivka near kyiv. at the same time, the woman did not run a business, but was a housewife. the wife, or rather the ex-wife, during the time she was married to gorbasenko from 2012 to 14 years, also acquired a considerable amount of real estate. a house of 122 m2, two apartments of 164 and 155 m2, two parking spaces and two plots of land. and all this with a total income for that period of 1 million hryvnias. in addition to the property in kyiv, there is also a place in the temporarily occupied crimea, where anna sveredenko has four non-residential premises in gaspri, near yalta, and several more land plot in sudak and a house of more than 300 m2. gorbasenko refuses to explain these facts. the information, which is allegedly compiled in the new conclusion, has already been investigated, has already been worked out and refuted, i am categorically against the postponement, and i will ask the honorable

members of the commission to continue the review. after a closed discussion of the higher qualifications, the commission nevertheless decided to postpone the consideration of gorbasenko. based on the results of the discussion , a protocol decision is announced to postpone consideration of the issue. we asked pavlo gorbasenko about the probable intention to hide real marital relations, connections with the terrorist state and about fortunes that cause doubts. mr. pavlo, please tell me what your father did while roaming in the occupied kyiv region? i don't want to answer you on the fly, if you want to do a good interview, then come to visit, send questions, and even about the fortunes that were analyzed by the thunderous ghosts, the fortunes were analyzed and the conclusion was drawn that there are no questions about the fortunes, so let's not to invent a report from something that does not exist. we hopefully after careful research of all. discovered facts that may testify

to the dishonesty of judge pavlo gorbasenko, the commission will make a fair decision regarding him. the ethics council completed interviews with candidates for the position of member of the supreme council of justice under the quota of president volodymyr zelenskyi. currently, the vrp has 17 members out of 21. the president has to appoint two, and for more than a year and a half, the seats are empty, and the applicants are doubtful. this is the judge of the kyiv district and she has a wonderful friendly family and a beautiful social security, so he lives in his mother's apartments that his sister bought, drives his daughter's car, and eats rations from the state. i am a person who knows how to save, and i did not need to spend. since 2022, panchenko and her husband have been living in an apartment designed for the judge's mother. she bought 64 m almost in the center of kyiv back in december 2012.

the whole family allegedly spent on real estate, the financing of this apartment took place, i say once again that due to the savings of my mother, father, ah, my mother's brother, i also spoke about the fact that my sister also participated in the financing of this purchase of this apartment, during the interview, as a candidate for the higher qualification commission. judge, you said that the money for the purchase was provided by your sister, her income from 1998 to the 12th year totaled uah 680,28,332, maybe i answered incorrectly then, two years before the purchase of this apartment, the judge's sister bought another one in the capital for her mother 34 squares, but a woman has never lived in any of them.

instead, natalia used real estate panchenko and her husband. why did you live in this apartment? your sister bought the apartment where you lived, why so? i would not like to make public the reasons for purchasing this apartment for my sister, but due to certain life circumstances, she purchased it. at the same time, she stayed where she lived. the need for me and my family to purchase an apartment was not necessary in connection with... the fact that we understood that in the near future we would receive an apartment, but from the state. natalia panchenko always had a lot for the state hopes with the help of social security, for example, it was possible to buy even a new audi q7. it was issued for her daughter, but the judge herself used the car. in our country , the maintenance of officers and their families at the expense of the state was introduced. and i want

to tell you about the fact that i can get confused in my hands right now, together with this somewhere until the third grade, these are my daughters, because i just remember how we lived, and we...were provided for, we did not spend money on housing, because the state compensated for it, we did not spent money on food, since the state also provided us with this, and this was the concept of rations, well, in russian, a share, well, a share, well , that is, when an officer was given food for himself and his family members, obviously everyone knows how to save the judge's family, her...husband managed to buy a motorcycle with a market value of over 7 thousand dollars 15 times cheaper, it is a completely ordinary motorcycle, from what i see, as far as i can assess from an outside observer, there is nothing like that at all, please explain please, such a huge difference between

the real price of the motorcycle and the agreement of the parties, and why? it was exactly that price, i don't know, because i was not a participant in this relationship, why he sold it at exactly that price, i don't know, maybe panchenko doesn't see the problem, because she herself gives away her own cars for nothing, her toyota rav-4 sold for uah 100, says the car was badly damaged in a road accident. in general , the ethics council had a lot of questions about the integrity of the judge of the kyiv district administrative court natalia panchenko, soon we will find out whether the servant succeeded. to convince experts of their suitability for the position of a member of the supreme council of justice. and for today i have everything, it was judicial control and i am tetyana shustrova. if you know the facts of corruption in the judicial system, or you want to report an unscrupulous

judge who makes wrongful decisions, write to me on facebook or to the e- mail address you see on the screen. for everything. ok, see you in exactly one week. and now the legendary polish dissident will work on the espresso tv channel, one of the creators of the new democratic poland, the founder of the equally legendary electoral newspaper adam michnik. greetings, mr. editor, to the espresso studio. good day, thank you for these kind words, even though they are exaggerated. of course, every word is some kind of exaggeration, but the most important thing that we see is the creation of perhaps the most important such, somewhat mythologized structure, it is not even

clear to the end what is happening, it is about the creation of a polish-ukrainian community. it is not only cultural.

part cold war, part hot, like it is here in ukraine. among all that is an anti-democratic, totalitarian project, an ideology, or also a spirit, the tendency of which is nationalism? nationalism, understood not as respect for national identity, but as domination over others. this is great russian nationalism.

it was a certain plan to putinize the country while maintaining anti-putin rhetoric, but poland was becoming very similar to putin's russia, internally. it is about institutions, it is about the destruction of democratic freedoms, it is about the destruction of justice. if in that in the context of looking at this war, this war is actually one totalitarian project with a democratic project. and obviously polish-ukrainian relations are absolutely key for this sphere. you just need to realize that both in poland and in ukraine

, who doesn't believe in those relations, or simply doesn't want them, so it will be, on the one hand , the construction of something that is a common value and community of interests, what can we say? i had this idea that poland and ukraine could create something similar.

of course, maybe they couldn't behave otherwise, but in any case, they did it well, and we in ukraine appreciate it very much, but then something happened, right? and there was a very strange pause, some kind of silence on both sides and some people on the border, so-called...

you can always quarrel, and it can always consist in the fact that, at first glance , a secondary topic suddenly becomes the most important, because there is that small narcissism. i agree with what you say that the policy on the polish side at the time of the outbreak of full-scale war was very good.

there is a certain sensitivity to it, and i know how to do it can be easily manipulated, and i'm afraid of that. in fact, it must be admitted that these relations deteriorated due to the fact that the substance and pro-ukrainian rhetoric were largely reluctantly accepted by the pis electorate. przyjmowana

przez elektorat pisu.

ukrainians protect not only themselves, they protect us and europe. and we must do everything to explain this to europe, that this is not a whim, but it is an elementary law for the existence of europe in a democratic form, and there will be no fair europe without an independent one. yes, but as you know, in order to implement something, it is necessary there is a long way to go, that is, many different twists and turns, many different points we have to implement, and the signed polish-ukrainian security agreement is very important, but the most important thing is also the readiness and maturity

of the political elites in ukraine and poland to consistently implement it.

there is a place only for connected people, this is the maximum offered by the kremlin leaders, this is finlandization, but this is the first stage, after finlandization, it is time for the soviet karelo-finnish republic, this is the logic of that imperialism, and this is the same turning point

moment, as in the 30s, the struggle between fascism and anti-fascism, and again... there were many unpleasant things from the anti-fascist side. there was british colonialism, there was racism and segregation in the united states. and with fascism or against it, with hitler and mussolini or against them? spain has a problem with catalonia, in italy the prime minister is post-fascist, in france, in germany there are also issues, scotland,

obviously, on this side we have viktor orbán, a very dangerous figure, very dangerous, because he behaves as if he was is putin's envoy, putin's hungarian liaison officer, is very dangerous.

this is, in my opinion, the most important moment in the history of ukraine, from the beginning of its existence. ukraine is consciously building its new national identity by paying the highest price in blood, sacrifices, and suffering. in fact, ukraine has already won this war, already won, if putin is unable to break the ukrainian opera for two years, i thought he would do it in a week. this is a vivid manifestation of what the ukrainian people want, we will talk about the problems later, when ukraine wins. but the most important thing is the demonstration by the political elites.

the fact that he was able to win this election is just a masterpiece, the way it was done, in that sense, i think he has a lot of that maturity, elements, but of course there are elements

of the elite who have a different opinion, who believe that ukraine is none of our business. that this is characteristic of russia and that we do not get involved in it.

sometimes they say it louder, sometimes they say it differently, they don't say it very loudly, but they say it and it's putin's message, contempt for gays, for

jews. chances are there will be problems, but if we look at in the longer term, it becomes obvious that it is so, they like putin, so here for poland there is a victory for ukraine. if they say in poland that we will have problems with the victory of ukraine, i answer. ukraine and

poland will have problems, because we have other interests, if it is about farming, well , there will be time to negotiate, but it is better than living under the kremlin's shobut, it is true, i completely agree, but at one time maralok pilsudski became a hostage of what was called the polish endezia. of course, different times, but 100 years ago, something similar to us saw i am afraid of only one thing, that at some point tusk will not say. i'm sorry, i'm very sorry, it was 100 years ago, the conversation of marshal pilsutskyi with interned ukrainian soldiers. yes, yes, i 'm sorry, i'm really sorry. it was like, well, i can't rule out a bad scenario.

poland is a country, my experience says, where everything is possible, even changes for the better, so everything can work out, you have to believe in it, you have to be an optimist, you can't be a pessimist, go forward with your head turned back. you have to be an optimist, i believe that we have something will succeed, because several things have already succeeded. after all, in 1988, no one in poland believed. that we will overthrow the dictatorship without a single broken window, without gallows, without a civil war, and that we will peacefully go to democracy, that the soviet union will collapse, that we will border with independent lithuania, with independent ukraine, no one believes at all, it happened , so we have to believe that a positive scenario is possible.

therefore, it is a matter of responsibility and efforts of the ukrainian and polish people to master these right-wing people of ours. let them be right, please but let it be like the british conservatives or.

that a world revolution is needed, and without that nothing will happen, not the left who say give money to everyone in need, let it be the left who recognize the right to compromise.

nothing, it was just losses.