correction, because what boris johnson made public can be called a brusylov breakthrough from boris johnson, because there are a lot of mutually contradictory theses, starting with the thesis about the russian speakers, what they are in danger of, they, the russian speakers in ukraine are only threatened by russian aggression, this firstly, secondly, a completely contradictory thesis that when the ukrainian army is well armed, it will go to the borders of 90 february 24, 22, if the ukrainian army is well armed, it will go to the borders of the kuban and its territory and enter in voronezh to belgorod, so to speak, and an even more weighty thesis, which pleased me so much, and i always promote it, is... that ukrainian

troops can replace american troops at american bases in europe, can you imagine, here under ee 80 km from the ukrainian border, er, there is a romanian military base, further on the border with lithuania there is a polish, american base, which at one time was almost on... named ford trump, it seems that the poles wanted to do it that way , to name, that is, is this thesis very strange, because instead of an idea boris johnson, instead of the high-tech american troops, the ukrainian troops should become essentially on a level with the technological ee, well, the possession of military technologies with the us troops, and... to carry out the mission,

the american mission with ukrainian hands, this is a very controversial thesis, because i will say so , the ground forces of poland today are developing with such dynamics that we still have to chase and chase, so it seems to me that boris johnson has generally dangled a lot of all kinds of carrots. and the idea of ​​this publication expansion was an instrumental tool for trump, i.e. trump so far offers a very simple trading scenario that either putin sits down with zelenskyi and negotiates, or i arm zelenskyi and zelenskyi with the russian army, so putin can sit down with zelenskyi. for

negotiations, only he will not agree on anything, first of all, any landing of putin for negotiations directly with zelensky, this is a humiliation for putin, and he will not go for it, because he has already rushed in anyway, but how, like, for example, boris johnson when he speaks about the return of russia to the g8, he is calculating who from russia should sit there, maybe he, maybe johnson can... revoke the mandate of the international criminal court for a warrant, more precisely, the international criminal court for the arrest of putin, i do not believe that johnson can revoke such an order. well, we still don't have the answers to these questions either, but it's clear that johnson is playing his game, especially since he's close to trump, and it's clear that now they're going to throw out different options for peace deals. and

obviously, obviously, not the last role in that how this process will go, beijing will also play, dmytro kuleba, as you have already mentioned, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, for the first time during the great war, and in general since 2012 , the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine visited beijing and discussed with the head of the foreign ministry of the country van' ways for a just peace, on the eve of this visit. the head of the ukrainian foreign ministry immediately announced that they would look for ways to a just peace in beijing. let's listen to what kuleba said. in the center of attention, one question: peace in ukraine. we will talk, we will look for points of contact. to us competing peace plans must be avoided. we need to move towards a just and sustainable peace and china. can play

an important role in this, let's go to work. later, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine reported that kuleba in china spoke, in particular, about the terms of negotiations between ukraine and russia and the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine. reported that our minister proved the consistent position of ukraine, which consists in the readiness to conduct a negotiation process with the russian side at a certain stage, when russia will be ready to conduct negotiations in good faith, but emphasized that currently such readiness is not observed on the russian side. instead, the ministry of foreign affairs of china reported that kuleba stated during the negotiations that ukraine and china are strategic as well as important economic and trade partners and emphasized that he supports the position. china on the taiwan issue and adheres to the principle of one china. volodymyr zelenskyi already said even more in the evening address, which was just made public, that there is a clear signal that china supports territorial integrity and ukraine's sovereignty, and it has also been confirmed that

beijing will not supply russia with weapons, for the detailed report of the minister, i expect after returning to ukraine, from this mosaic of these statements on... reports, what picture do you see, mr. volodymyr? well, first of all, china really does not supply weapons directly, if, well, there was a need, or rather, the simplest scheme for the supply of weapons, if china allowed itself to do it, then it was a supply through belarus, the fact is that in china with belarus there is a joint deduction. it is called a missile complex, a tactical missile complex polonez, and this species was supplied to the republic of azerbaijan. azerbaijanis used this very product in the war against armenia, it is a chinese missile system installed on the chassis of the minsk

plant. i would like to remind you that in china there is a technology park near minsk, velikiy kamin, and in principle. china now understands that without ukraine, without reconciliation, well, let's say, the end of the war, no systematic trade, it is impossible to build china with the european union without ukraine. let me remind you that at one time even yanukovych had signed a construction investment project with china. a huge industrial park on lake donuzlav in crimea, it was an investment of 15 billion dollars, and vance received 3 billion from yanukovych. but here another thing is important, if now china already has certain agreements with hungary, that hungary is an

economic bridgehead for china for trade with the european union, because more serious countries have refused china, in particular italy and spain. yes, poland has somehow tightened its relations with china, but here it is interesting what without ukraine, hungary will not be able to trade, that is, to become such a permanent representative of china in europe, because transit through ukraine can still be done without ukraine, transit through romania, but romania is already a country of the european union, ukraine has a free zone. of trade and ukraine is a promising china for europe, so to speak, because european manufacturers intend to place large, robotic productions in ukraine, which reduce the burden of delivery and make european

products more competitive. thank you, mr. volodymyr, it was volodymyr tsibulko, political expert, people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our own. platforms on youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, please take part in our vote, we are asking you today whether you think it is realistic to liberate crimea by military means, so if you think yes or no , vote on youtube, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you think it is realistic to liberate crimea by military means 0 800 211 381, no 0800 211. 382, ​​vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. in just a few minutes, dmytro razumkov, people's deputy of ukraine, former speaker of the ukrainian parliament, will be in our studio. well, for now , please watch the plot of how, in the midst of

the energy crisis, a small business in ukraine is trying to survive and keep customers in rather difficult conditions. how much more difficult it has become for entrepreneurs to work and what to expect. closer to winter, our correspondents learned, don't switch, stay with us, work, take a walk, or drink coffee, now you can only with such... sound accompaniment. turning off the lights for 12 hours forces the business to run purely on fuel for such machines. do small entrepreneurs manage to make coffee and break even? the summer of 2024 has certainly become more difficult for ukrainian businesses than the winter of 2023. abnormal heat and , as a result, even harsher power outages in total. turned the work of small institutions into survival, very difficult

now to work, our lights are turned off for 7-9 hours, it happens that during the whole working day there is only one and a half to two hours of light, and we have to work on the generator all the time. a generator is the must-have of any ukrainian entrepreneur, because today without it it is literally like having no hands, and at the same time maintaining this miracle machine requires huge funds. the generator... consumes about 10-15 liters of fuel per day, which roughly costs uah 20,000 per month. it is very difficult to say now, because the days are different, and most of us are working somewhere to zero, and now we are working to keep our customers. all products have become more expensive because there are no deliveries, everything spoils, you can't buy products, but thank god, everything works here, our generator pulls. we prepare food, prepare coffee and cold drinks, refrigerators work, everything is fine. such

small businesses become a real oasis for residents of nearby houses, because when there is no light at home, it will probably be in the cafe. and there will be hot food, internet and maybe even air conditioning. they come a lot many people come to work, charge their devices, also come to get hot water, cook food, store their... products, our freezer works, they bring meat. this summer demonstrated that ukrainians should not be frightened not only by frost, but also by heat. children and adults all over the country are coming up with creative ideas to deal with the scorching sun and the lack of electricity, and they are sincerely and more than ever happy about the downpour, and although sometimes they are indignant and understand that such inconveniences are definitely not the biggest problem. no, i this process somehow i control, well... i charge up before calling out evil, well, everything is good in this sense, well, like, okay, we survive, see, well, we try

to live, not survive, so what saves me the most now is silpo, which has a zone where the cafe is, accordingly, crowded, but you can also use a charger, and the wi-fi is stable, that is, for example, there was no light yesterday, i worked from there, no, i don’t want to charge my phone, nothing, that’s enough for me. i charge power banks for two hours, then i charge phones and everything else, and that's it it's enough, i don't need it, because the 22nd year has already gotten used to it, and that's why i have a power bank that keeps it, it's bad that there is no connection, it's difficult to pay with a card, but everything is relative, the main thing is that it doesn't happen like in my native place , however , despite the positive perception of today's challenges, it is also rational... to think about winter as well, promising forecasts are given, except that fortune tellers, specialized experts, officials and

people's deputies are quite skeptical and already hint that it is not worth waiting for a miracle, and everyone needs to prepare independently. we all think about it day, but let's hope for the best, we thought about putting panels, batteries, but the heart tells us that everything will be fine. in the verkhovna rada of this. last week, people's deputies adopted at least two important laws that affect business: the first is positive: duties and taxes on the import of generators, batteries, equipment for wind and solar generation were canceled, but the excise tax on fuel, on the contrary, was increased. we assume that the increase in gasoline and excise duty will occur somewhere within the range of 1.2 hryvnias for gasoline and diesel, and... this is the contribution that you and i will do everything to finance the army.

to support the defenders is an unequivocal, single and most important task of every ukrainian. but time will tell how long the entrepreneurs will be able to balance on the verge of bankruptcy and continue to pay taxes for the benefit of the country. kateryna galko, andriy varstyuk, espresso tv channel. this is the verdict program. we work live on the tv channel. as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, if you're watching us on social media or youtube, please like this video. i would like to introduce one more of our guests, this is dmytro razumkov, people's deputy of ukraine. chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine in 19-21 years, mr. dmytro, i welcome you, thank you for visiting, good evening, thank you for the opportunity to be here today, well, first of all, since you were the chairman of the verkhovna rada from 19 to 21 years, i remembered that on july 21, 2019 , elections were held, and in these elections you introduced the servant of the people party to these elections, you won these

elections, you became the head of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but here we see. in the last few years, the loss of subjectivity by the verkhovna rada and the government, why did this happen in these five years, that from the team that was supposed to give hope to ukrainians and that went under the slogan of new faces in politics, everything turned into some division of some office of some president, and the right question, the only thing i can say is that it started from the very beginning activity you really have no idea how much effort i had to make in order to at least somehow preserve the subjectivity of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, this was, in principle, the reason why the office of the president and president zelenskyi ate me and removed me from this position, but i recently talked to one of the people's deputies from the people's servants, he says:

god, for which, shall we say, cleaning up, making a literary... statement, he said: what bad things are we voting for today, i say, look, you don't understand how much it was worth my effort so that such bad things simply did not get into the hall of the verkhovna rada, and you did not take upon yourself the negativity that is being accumulated in the rada today, because the betrayals of the rada have turned the dustbin into which they are trying to transfer all the negativity , which is in the president's office and on the president's personal, why i am talking about this because... that today the verkhovna rada is not a subject, you are right to know, as well as the government, we talked about this many times on the air, that we have a department for approving legislative decisions of the office of the president and the department for the implementation of technical decisions of the president's office, one is called the verkhovna rada of ukraine, the other

is called the government of ukraine. based on this, you and i must understand that today all decisions are yours. in this country, it is accepted in the office of the president, there by the president, his five or six managers, and the council, unfortunately, does not performs the functions provided by the constitution, plus, frankly, i am ashamed of what is happening today in the walls of the parliament, when people see that the deputies are not in the hall, let's remember my term of office and how many meetings there are, including on friday , there were people's deputies, and the meetings were permanent, regular, and what is happening... today, when the hall is empty during the war, when the law on mobilization is being considered, there are 20 people's deputies in the hall, there are 25, half of which are ours colleagues from smart politics, and today, when, now there was supposed to be a meeting, well today there was supposed to be a meeting of the verkhovna rada, yesterday there was supposed to be a meeting of the verkhovna rada, the authorities did everything

to prevent the verkhovna rada from sitting, and in fact they did not plan to. to sit until august 20 of this year, and also to my questions and colleagues, and why such a long break, the answer is blank, to the question, you know, blank or without an answer, i say, well, look, today people are all working, everyone is working day, there are no days off, there are no holidays, there are no holidays from sunday to monday, as it was before, everyone works for the state, everyone works for the armed forces of ukraine, and the deputies should also work, i would... first of all, i would like to, i know that those who watch us do not like deputies, but the deputies are also different, there are those who work, i am not only talking about my colleagues there, from our team, i am talking about various factions, groups that are within the walls of the parliament, and those who work for the benefit of the state and in the interests of the state, and there are those who work for the benefit of the president's office and for their own interests, i understand that others more, but none the less, the fact that the council

is not sitting and working today is the direct responsibility of stefanchuk, as the chairman of the verkhovna rada. for understanding , a corresponding resolution was adopted, where only he, as one personality, determines the place and time of meetings of the verkhovna rada, and if there are no such meetings, it means that stefanchuk, as the chairman of the verkhovna rada, or agreed with someone, that it is not necessary to work , or does not want to work independently, for the verkhovna rada and for the ukrainian people, we have stefanchuk's synchronicity, how much. the speech that was going on in front of the audience during the break on the draft law on the activities of the ukrainian orthodox church, i will quote mr. stefanchuk, given that a decision was made yesterday. work on the finalization of certain provisions of the law number 83 71 with the aim of putting it to the vote in the hall as soon as possible, the parliamentarians will be engaged in other activities, in particular

those closely related to the preparation of this draft law, well, you can ask the opposite then, i understand that stefanchuk will not come on the air, because the truth will be scary to answer, you ask him, or your colleagues, let them they will ask whether stefanchuk planned to hold a meeting under... after this friday and until august 20, 2024, whether it was in his plans and how the so -called law on the church affected it, whether it was not in the schedules of meetings of the supreme councilors, when they talk about the fact that they will work in committees, it is true, some will work in committees, some will be like our team, but when there were no meetings of the verkhovna rada, we tried together with the smart team. politicians to go to the front, to the south, to the east to ours defenders, because this, well, this is first of all correct, plus we tried to help as much as

we could, we did not go to london, we went to other ones, we went to almost the outskirts of new york, but not the one that they like to go to our authorities, the one located in the donetsk region, which today, well, actually ceases to exist, because it is being destroyed. but returning to the chairman of the verkhovna rada, let's tell the truth: the committees will take place, but they will take place online. here, for example, i will give you concrete fact: last week on friday there was no meeting of the tsc on fortifications and drones. this friday, as far as i understand, they do not plan to hold a meeting of the tsc on fortifications and drones. why is this happening? because the off-roader had to be recalled. and withdraw from office, you saw this corruption scandal on let's explain to our tv viewers that this is a people's deputy of ukraine who was elected in sumy oblast, and he demanded a return of 10%, there are 3,400 thousand uah from

the road that he had, someone had to build in okhtyrka, he had, let's say, these these to help people manage this money, as far as i understand, nabu says exactly that, i don't know, i'm not a court, i'm not a prosecutor. there it is more visible to them, but an agreement was reached that he would be recalled and replaced with another person so that there would be no, and they were supposed to recall from two tsks, where he is the head, in other tsks he is a deputy, but this did not happen, and again in we do not have a meeting this friday, and most likely they will do it in order to drag out this process. i am already silent that at the meeting of the tsc, the tsc is important, because the whole society saw in the kharkiv direction, hears from our defenders. that someone makes very good money on drones, someone made money on fortifications, someone made a very nice profit on the forests that were allegedly transferred to fortifications, i

am sure that the fate of malaya went to the very top, and someone lives very well from this, and especially looking at what the verkhovna rada voted on last week, i am referring to the draft law 11340 in the first reading, where 231 people's deputies about... voted for an indulgence for corrupt officials, where you can pay from 204 thousand to 204 million and be free as a bird, that is, he stole a billion, paid 204 million and is free, that's how we live, stefanchuk says that we are quick, we will introduce this bill on the banning of the moscow church to the session hall as soon as possible, and this is a very revealing phrase stefanchuk, why? because it is a government bill, that is, in principle, it is this bill, it should be passed much faster than it is. nikita poturaev was

on my air yesterday, he said that there is, that it is a mistake the decision of the conciliation board to postpone the question of banning the pcmp until august and that the people's servant has enough votes that can vote, let's listen to what patorai said, this is a question for the members of the conciliation council from... the cream and for the members of the conciliation council from other factions of the groups, why did they all agree with the decision to take such a break now, i believe that there was no need for it, moreover, according to our calculations, if the law banning the russian orthodox church and its agents were to be voted on today or tomorrow in the hall of the verkhovna rada, then today there would be at least or tomorrow 240 votes, mr. dmytro. i don't know what prevents the current government from putting the dots on this issue, i'm not invited to the conciliation council anymore, because they don't like reasonable questions there, but let them

sort it out among themselves, because it's on... terrarium of like-minded people and behavior spiders in the jar, because even, well, this is the representative of the monomajority, the chairman of the entire committee, let him decide on the position of his faction, with the leadership of his faction, stefanchuk, when he talks about the finalization of this bill, well, he should have known that time the submission of amendments and proposals is completed, it has been there for two weeks, what they are saying now is just prolonging the process, and why i say again, i... now i do not take the question of the church of any other bill, ask stefanchuk the following: he convening a meeting, did he plan to hold a meeting of the verkhovna rada from next monday until the 20th of august 2024, and if he tells you that yes, then let's continue this conversation, now this is an attempt to make a good mine in a very bad game, as always, but it's... a lie that it's happening

due to the blocking of the tribune there or some other reasons, it happens because either they do not have enough votes, or this issue after postponement is a question of the government, or they cannot understand each other, or they do not have enough or not enough intelligence to finalize it or another bill at the appropriate time, i don't know and i don't want to comment, that's their question. well, i will ask you in a different way, can this issue be tied to possible peace negotiations with russia, well, that is, the ukrainian authorities do not want to quarrel now and raise the level of confrontations, i am not ready, i do not take part in negotiations with russia, i would still like to know more about such negotiations, because the same zelenskyi said that the church should be banned if the position in them changed, well, he has

to say this because it looks strange when the president's faction does not support his decision, it was his initiative to ban the church, if the position has changed in connection with the negotiations or something else, then let the president decide, as it should be done properly and will say that his position changed, or, on the contrary, supported it, then he does not control his faction, but what is in the office of the president today is not controlled by the monomajority and does not control it... two groups, for example, the former opz, or trust, or for the future, or partially for the future , i don't believe it, they know how to negotiate with these factions, because based on what is in the walls of the verkhovna rada today, without a vote, at least opzzh, and at most, well, the former, the former faction of opzzh, now there are two groups, and two groups, or from time to time two

groups, before... faith and for the future, they did not have b votes, if you look at all the votes of the servant of the people, there, well, i don't remember, i think that for two years, there are probably no 226 from a monomajority, this is a formal lack of a coalition, but they, as they joke within the walls of the parliament, i don't like these expressions that they have created hostages for themselves, which they somehow influence, but this is not democracy, it is very reminiscent of those... principles in quotation marks of democracy, which the armed forces of ukraine are fighting against today, destroying the enemy at the front, so that such democracy, as is in russia in quotation marks, does not come to kyiv, to dnipro, odessa, lviv, zhytomyr or other cities. on august 20, the verkhovna rada will somehow have to consider this issue, or introduce this bill in the second reading, but we will have a position in the group of your reasonable policy. everyone will have

their own position, the question is different, i am not sure that it will appear on the 20th, because a monomajority cannot agree among themselves, so let them be determined from the position of the president, who sets them certain tasks. another statement made by zelensky during a meeting with the state secretary of the holy see cardinal pietro parolini, he said that ukraine. wants to end the war as soon as possible, let's listen to what the president of ukraine said. thank you for your participation in the peace summit, this was the first step, only the first step, or already the first step, all these steps are very important for us and it is important that you support them, and i heard your words, i think that we all understand that we must finish.