dmytro shvets is also with us, law enforcement officer, lawyer of iryna farion, halyna pomyluyko nedashkivska, literary critic and friend of iryna faronna. maryana prysiazhniuk is with us, a correspondent of the central committee, an expert of the stop fake project. taras batenko, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the deputy group for the future. yaroslav gerasym, with us, doctor of philological sciences, professor of ivan franko national university of lviv. mykola buchyn, political scientist, professor of the lviv polytechnic national university. good evening. before we give the floor, and this it is important to give at the beginning of the program to sofia, the daughter of iryna farion, i still want the lawyer to give a brief comment about what you know. today they detained a suspect of committing a crime, there are comments from the national police, well, you are a lawyer for us. to explain what we should hear from

this information that we heard today, of course, that the investigation is ongoing and to dwell on the fact that the suspect in the commission of the murder was discovered quite early, we cannot reject any versions, we cannot dwell on only one fact that we have information from telegram channels about certain involvement in certain groups of the suspect in... currently, investigative actions will continue, appropriate experiments will be conducted, including e- experiments, related to this crime, and the task of law enforcement agencies will still continue to show the ability to qualitatively to investigate such crimes and to look at the picture comprehensively, holistically, and not to focus on certain facts that we have. of course, we... like the whole

society, like ukraine, follow the information that appears in the media, which we are informed, as the injured party, of course and of course, that we expect a comprehensive approach from law enforcement agencies in the investigation of this crime. sofia, it would be worse if we talked today on the program about the fact that there are no suspects, no one was found, but it so happened that today, thursday, they announced that they for... got this guy in dnipropetrovsk, who is suspected of committing a crime, what is important for you now, what is important for me now, to find the customers, to they found the eyes of this murderer, i want to see him, i want to see the person who took away the whole heart from the whole country, the whole heart from... the ukrainian nation, which simply proved

simple things to everyone, language is a weapon, we speak ukrainian, everything , this must be proved to everyone in the country when there is a war, simple things, so the most important thing we have to do is to find customers, for myself, i want to look into his eyes, huh, so that later i can say: to my children, they will ask who kill the old woman, and what can i say, i did not see him, that is, i have to pass this way and look and ask why and who is the customer, representatives of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine should be with us, if there are , they will tell us about it, and we will be able to communicate, because there was information that this suspect will be transported to lviv. to choose a preventive

measure, this is important information, because he was detained in the dnipro, if so, then of course we will monitor this whole event as much as possible, because we are here physically, it should be with us, but for now communication is being established with maryana reva, the spokeswoman of the ministry of internal affairs, there are indeed questions, because the name and surname of this person are already actively circulating on social networks, but again , all official confirmations must be obtained. now you can read the comment of his father, who seems to be a military man, but there is neither the surname nor the name of this person, so we have to verify everything, mrs. sofia, i still want to continue this conversation with you, and what do you want to hear from this person in response, to hear from him the answer, why he is this did what do you imagine he can answer you, i just imagine that he is a man afraid of consumption, if his ... father was

a soldier, he would not have done this. this man is a coward who shoots a woman in broad daylight. he knows very well... that millions of people are looking at her, the people who were in the yard at the time, the children who were playing in the playground, he knew it, he just sneaked up to the shelter and shot her, just killed her, and for it's important for me to just look at him, of course, as my mother used to say, you never know your... values transfer it to other people, because you have your own values, some have others, but this murderer has no values, he is not a person, he is not even an animal, because we all know that

animals love their owners very much, he is just some kind of creature , who killed her. but someone had to help this creature. an 18-year-old boy doesn't have the nerve to think it through in such detail. we all know perfectly well with whom we are now at war. therefore, i think that the police should bring everything to an end. mr. melnychuk, your political force, to which irena fallon originally belonged in the end. with has been following the situation for the first few hours, i know that you were in the hospital, they are following the search for the killers, and here is today's information that the suspect has been detained, and uh, the national police of ukraine says that there is

a sufficient amount of evidence, an evidentiary base to to claim that this person could have committed this crime and the video, and that he was filming at least three apartments. in the city of lviv, this is official information from the law enforcement officers, what can you say as of now? in fact , we need to understand in order to draw some conclusions, we need to see a complete, true one picture the minister of internal affairs promised at his press conference that they will provide much more information in the near future. in the final result, the whole society should get a complete, complete picture with... the perpetrator, the one who helped him, the one who led him, the one who ordered this murder, and the ultimate beneficiary, who benefits from it, it's obvious, that's why that this is the russian federation, which, you must have seen, after

the death of irina dmitrievna, they had an incredible joy there, because irina dmitrievna was one of their chief they are ideological enemies of everything, not only russia, the entire russian world, and the fact that they are raging now is one situation, but who organized it, how they organized it, who helped, these are important questions to which society must receive an answer, and we hope that they will be in the near future, according to preliminary information, tomorrow klymenko... the minister of internal affairs of ukraine is scheduled to give a press conference on this matter on the 11th, and president zelenskyi has already made a statement that more details will be given tomorrow , well, it is clear that we will be very careful follow this. alya, how do you perceive this information that he was detained,

at least a suspect in this murder, and we have it already six days after the death of iryna dmitrivna, what thoughts do you have now sitting in this studio? i am not only thinking about the performer, because i think it is obvious to everyone here that there is a performer who, simply because of his age, would not have the knowledge to do it so cleanly that they could not go out on it for so long and went all the way to doors, where his neighbors make comments, in what language about him, of course, in russian, of course. even, that is, they saw it, they lived for six days, and for them it did not become an occasion, at least, when giving a comment related to the murder of iryna forion, to give it in ukrainian, a young guy also, the same age, that is, these are

children who at the beginning of the great war they were 16 years old, probably it is not that. generations, much less, even, even less, they did not draw conclusions in these six days, i think that what happened is a direct consequence of that... of what happened in november, and when on pauses, when at the funeral, lviv really woke up, there was a sea, there was a sea of ​​people, each with their own pain, some had more, some less, this grave covered in flowers, the place of murder in flowers, in lamps, but at the same time when it ... all that she always said and knew what the consequences could

be, then there was a fraction, then there was a fraction of those who really had to defend themselves, defend themselves not quietly, not to think about what i should from that it will be, and am i not exposed to danger. to act even then, because when he was at the polytechnic rally to at least show that lviv, then no, then not these are the same little boys, boys, then just boys who started everything, also by order, but nevertheless, the same age, the hope of the nation we we say, who woke up, a little bit came. a little bit came, and it was a very scary time, because it was then that the address of iryna farion

was leaked to the network for the first time, her private data, it started then, i think that it was not only the neighbors who were looking at this suspicious guy and did not react in any way, this is a big question to... everyone, probably, why did this happen, and what is our responsibility as well, not only to continue her work, not only to ensure that not equal states, finally, as we have always said, a nation of necrophiles , then it really exists, haven't heard it, haven't heard it all these years, and only now? and only now, when such a terrible victim was about to happen, is he dumbfounded,

gives comments, zelenskyi, president zelenskyi, the highest leadership, was everyone involved then, or why was it not involved then, but i have this question, later there were trials, this also the situation of danger when she wins these courts. triumphant in the end, and this whole story, i see it in cross-section, not only over 30 years of her frantic activity, in fact, sacrificial service, it really is, as sofia said, this is the heart of ukraine, this is the fire of ukraine, this and ukraine, which had the only chance to be born now. in the crucible of war, but she became a victim, she paid this sacrifice,

i would definitely, i just really want everyone who is now watching twitter, who is going to the cemetery, who is already looking for her books, because it can be seen who subscribed to her channel, the number of subscribers, of course, increased, because this is... an excuse, this is a sensation, so that they also ask themselves this question, and that they now have to give back, what they have to do, because, because to speak in the ukrainian language, it is clear, but this is not enough, this is not enough, that ukraine, the one for which she gave her life in such a terrible way, is really a woman, a very fragile woman, but at the same time very strong. for it to happen, i would like to conclude, probably, with the words of one of the heroes of its

geno-ukrainians, which you wrote here in studio, mykola yevshan, we gave this quote, this last book, which i had a great, great gift from god to do with her, to have time to do it, and it is not only ivshan, it is also teliga, olena teliga, who we are... also we know how she ended her days, she deliberately went for it, she didn't, she didn't run away, if, if she burned through ukraine, she didn't care, she was shot. that too, that, and she was also fiery, that's what dontsov said, that fire is her image. and yevshan said something like this, i'm reading it, i took a picture of it before going to your book store: it's scary the tragic independence of the creators, loneliness, even when yurba recognizes their prophetic

gift and begins to worship her, devoted to her only worthless pleasures, and remembering only for herself, she will never understand by feeling their great longing, she will not understand their sacrifice for herself , for which they give their best dreams and the most precious jewels of their souls, and will ring them with a tarn wreath and lead them to calvary. actually, what happened to iryna farion is the ukrainian... path to calvary, i told her when the trials were going on that there would be no victory ukraine, if not, if there is no victory for you, if there is no victory for what she gave her life for, these are my thoughts, mrs. galina, you said that

interest in the legacy of iryna farion is growing, the number of subscribers on youtube is increasing channels and... in fact, this is not the first time in the last few weeks that i have been thinking about this for the whole last week, and it seems to me that among all the figures of ukrainian history, ms. iryna is the person who has already left the most in her legacy digital content, i.e. we have and we live in a world of digital content, and it's very important, one way or another, no matter how much we talk about the fact that, well, the trend ... to increase reading with hands is not happening, and this digital content, it really remains in centuries, and i think that it will become the foundation, it is very likely that it will become the foundation on which the history of ukraine will be built in the coming decades, this is a bloody grain, bloody, but it is a bloody grain

from which we have to do everything , as i already told you in the comment, this is our terrible duty. to do everything to make it grow, we will do as long as there is our life, because otherwise it, it would be very nice, her grandchildren will continue her work, yes, i'm sure of it, because the way they held in their tiny hands the portraits in such a way that they held firmly that they did not fall, because you yourself are beautiful. do you understand if this portrait fell, what would everyone write? and they kept it like that, and when we got to my mother, and my dmytryk asked me at the throne: where was the grandmother shot, this is a child who is four years old, and he

held on to the last. eva says: maybe i 'll stroke her? that is, you see, they... she was lying down, but they treated her as if she were alive, because she loved them, you know, more than, well, more than anything, as she loved ukraine, so she loved her grandchildren, and as galya said, she has a huge amount of work done, and if i have a moment, i would read that work done in numbers, if we have one for advertising, maybe she has personal greatness, it is 160 programs, programs. of ukrainians 133 studies, linguistic and literary lectures - more than 60 lectures, seven monographs, eight monographs co-authored and 400 articles, you understand how much this person worked, that is, how, if you go to her house, the investigators came, they thought, this is how farion lives, she has no estates, she does not have

a car, she walks without security, you enter. and a house, and there is a library of books, you go into the kitchen, there are books, you go into the room, there are books, there are books everywhere, they all imagined that she is full of life, and she just lives and creates the ukrainian nation, together with freedom , the all-ukrainian freedom association , a long, long time ago, when i was younger, who made these march oops, someone... and used to say: "language is a weapon, only freedom." you understand? i was just today, yesterday, at her house, and we have blue-yellow... flag, lyubchyk remembers, language, the only one, how it was, i don't remember, language is a weapon, then , that is , the all-ukrainian freedom association

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