do you go on vacations, what happens in your brigade, they go on vacations, they go, they go, they definitely go, we follow this, well, let's say, they go and there it is another vacation, there are vacations due to family reasons, well, i will say that well , there are no questions about that, the main thing is that you understand that in order to go on vacation, someone must stay behind for you, but that's what we can't, you see, we can under... take care that everything, the time for vacations has come, let the personnel there go on vacation, the enemy will go there too, god forbid, yes, he will go there in some settlement, that’s it, and the front poured down, you understand what the task is, that is, if someone can joke, not to go to work there, or loiter somewhere at work, yes, well, it didn’t work out there, some deputy there on work, yes, nothing happened, well, they didn't pass the law, yes, for a second, but here we will immediately... there will be a reaction, there will be an answer and

result immediately, that's why the work is important, you know, i always said that nothing new is needed make it up, we have a constitution, we have laws that are great in principle, in general, and who you just have to perform, everyone in their place, just perform your duties, whoever you are, absolutely correct words, mr. serhiy, thank you very much for the inclusion, for what you and your brothers are doing to protect our state, once again ... please show the collection, this is the collection for the drones of the 59th separate motorized infantry brigade of yakov handziuk, the collection for 5 million hryvnias, all these funds will be used to equip combat units with drones, which will then fly on the heads of our enemies. and then about the new drone, which yesterday was planted under kyiv is new. the drone actually turned out

to be quite a prototype, which is made of foam, it did not have a warhead, it has a wingspan of about 2.5 m, a fuselage of 2 m, but from the interesting details, apart from the foam that makes it cheap and such, there are sim cards of ukrainian operators and we can... conclude that this drone was used to detect the position of our air defense, the logic here is simple: the drone flies, transmits a signal, if it is shot down either by means of reb or by physical impact, then the signal is in this area disappears and the enemy theoretically knows that either mobile ukrainian anti-aircraft groups or some or other air defense complexes can work there in this zone, but this is just such a cheap drop right now. was shot down near

kiev yesterday, and this is another conclusion that the enemy is trying to use all means to carry out attacks on ukraine, accordingly , on the ukrainian side, we need to look for such cheap countermeasures, so as not to waste precious and expensive missiles there on these drones, and most importantly, most likely, the reb is quite capable of doing so with this task, so that these drones do not fly in our airspace, here... these were the main military results of this day, yuriy fizar will continue the broadcast, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thanks to sergey zgurts, these were the military results of the day and this is the latest information about this new russian drone, well, unfortunately, the russians have managed to adapt, they are inventing something new, and this drone is a spy, one that detects our anti-aircraft means. defense so

that drones with combat units and also with missiles to avoid these moments and these territories and fly further, hit the targets, well, this is bad, but i really hope, no, i am sure that our guys will still shoot down everything that will fly into the territory of our country, and by the way, about the drones, first of all i want to thank you all for the fact that you joined the collection of the previous 4 million game. atvs will already go to our defenders on the front lines, and now the espresso tv channel and the vesna charitable fund have opened a fundraiser for the purchase of modern drones and electronic warfare systems for the third separate assault brigade of the 110th and 47th brigades of the armed forces of ukraine. the defenders in the donetsk direction every day hold back enemy attacks, defend our freedom and future. it was these warriors who survived to the last. and defended the avdiiv direction

in the spring, so there are a lot of losses and resources need to be replenished. they urgently need flying weapons and modern means of countering enemy drones. these technologies. critically important for the protection of our soldiers, our goal is uah 3.5 million. remember, everyone your donation brings our victory closer. together we can protect those who protect us. good health, dear ukrainians. we, the fighters of the first assault battalion, the third separate assault brigade, who will defend our native land on the front lines. we urgently need your help. we need means of electronic warfare. against malykhbyl, the enemy and komikazu drones, we really ask for your help, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, glory to the heroes, and the guys said they urgently need our help, so we must mobilize and help

to them, it is not much, on the other hand , 3.5 million hryvnias may seem like a lot, but there are also many of us, every hryvnia of yours, at least 1 hryvnia, which you throw at the card numbers. to the card number that you saw on the screens, or also by the qr code, it will speed up the fact that we will close this collection and such modern means for our defenders will be sent to them, and they will be able to defend us, for which we thank them daily and hourly. yes, artem revchuk, deputy of the kharkiv city council, has joined me now. mr. artem, i congratulate you and glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. congratulations studio, congratulations ukraine, mr. artem, we asked you to join us on the air today, because, well, such bad news came from kharkiv today, there was some calm, as far as i understand, well, relatively calm in kharkiv itself, but this night was very restless, what can you say

about this, well not that this night, but let's say this day was calm, last day almost until the beginning, well... since this day du has been very so restless there almost since i counted about eight arrivals there were around the city, they even hit the house of a well-known kharkiv resident volunteer yuriy sapronov, and i was passing by there , i also saw this, well, this is what was there, well, it was aimed, most likely, it was a hit, and i will repeat it again, there were eight attacks, they hit both in the city itself, in the industrial zone, in... public buildings, there were also in the suburbs , well , yesterday was quite a busy day, but today, thank god, it is quiet, and on the one hand this is pleasing, and on the other hand it is alarming, because if we take into account yesterday, then we all

understand kharkiv residents that sooner than all that today do not beat it just because they are planning their next crime, and which districts of kharkiv suffer the most from these shellings? well, if we take it realistically, then yesterday the geography was quite wide, that is, the northern regions, and the central regions were also affected here, because yesterday there were just rockets, i want to note that it has been a long time since we were fired with just rockets, there flew to the suburbs, and the rockets did not hit, which means that everywhere... the enemy somewhere moved the rockets to other points, saying that they flew longer, but well, this is such an alarm bell for our city, there has been no such thing since may, but can you, mr. artem , confirm the information that i

read on the internet today that at this time the enemy could hit with iskanders, with cluster warheads and also for the first time used the s-300 for a long time. yes, there is such information from official sources, they said that an iskander with a cassette part plus s300 was used yesterday, i say, most likely, most likely this indicates that they have drawn conclusions, transferred these means of destruction to somewhere safer areas, somewhere deeper into their territory, so that we could not hit them with western...weapons, that is why we have such results, well, it is quite clear that if the enemy uses cluster warheads on the iskanders, and then these small bombs fly away after the explosion over a large area, and especially when there is a hit in civilians, where there are civilian houses, then

obviously the enemy wants to intimidate people, what are the people of kharkiv like? well, look, i will say, business activity, as a rule, when there is shelling, business activity immediately drops, people try to go out less, uh, because they're afraid. and of course it affects, very, very much affects everything in the life of the city itself, because, well, what kind of recreation can there be, what can there be some trip to supermarkets, such very large shopping centers, when you realize that you can to be an attack by these terrorists, but what about the district? were there strikes in districts, for example lozova, kupianschyna, kupianschyna? well, look, if

you count, take the kharkiv region in general, then those districts that are directly located near the contact line, the shelling does not stop there at all, if you take the town of vevchanskyi, vevchansk, there it is almost completely wiped out, the same people, well, the entire northern part of the kharkiv region, it is non-stop. under fire, and if someone lives in the northern part of the city, well, let's say in the northern saltovka there or there, the village of zhukovsky is still called that, then at night, when the city quiets down, when the curfew comes, when it's more or less quiet, then it's very you can hear all these explosions, there in the 20s even kilometers that are happening, and what do you have with the electric? unfortunately, the electricity is cut off according to the schedule, well, in principle, people

are used to it, but now there is such a very alarming bell, i would say that it is the fact that the government is going to increase excise taxes on fuel, and as we know, the entire business almost during a blackout works on generators, and this will significantly affect precisely the increase not directly for... precisely for the population of services or goods that are sold by entrepreneurs, well, this is bad, and what about such shelling, but it is good that business somehow adapts to it, unfortunately, is forced to adapt. another question: what about water, specifically drinking water? well, thank god, i want to say that our utility services work without interruption, there are repair shutdowns, but for today i can say that... the city copes with the challenges that exist today,

even according to the schedule, preparations for heating season, we also voted at the last session to allocate an additional 462 million uah just for the decentralization of heating and hot water supply, so the city the maximum is preparing to be autonomous ee in case. terrorist attacks and unpredictable actions. look, you are for autonomy, for the readiness to be autonomous with water, but are there any such programs in kharkiv regarding autonomy with regard to electricity, let me come back to this. well, with regard to the electricity of the city itself, well, if you say that there are no such programs for the city budget , there are programs now, as far as i have heard, programs for osmd, these are 579 loans, and also... this week, information was transferred that for

end consumers, well for households the state has developed loans for solar power plants, there are storage plants, but i want to say that, in principle, what they are doing now should have been done a long time ago, and the mechanisms should have been brought to people, because information has spread that such programs exist, but judging by the fact that i communicated with the residents of kharkiv from there, no one knows the mechanism of how exactly this should work, i think that if the state communicated more, let's say, in detail , all these conditions to the population, i think that many kharkiv residents took advantage of these conditions, realizing that, well, in such difficult times, you need to take care of yourself more. i thank you very much, mr. artem, for the inclusion, it was artem revchuk, deputy of the kharkiv city council. councils talked about how kharkiv, in the end, and the region survived the past day, and the past day there was

quite tense, after such a time, a lull, if you can call it that, the enemy hit with many missiles, there are arrivals to great regret, and even that mr. artem, mr. artem confirmed this information that the enemy even used iskanders with cassettes warheads, and also for the first time for a bug in some time... s300. well, i just want to wish courage to those people who live there, let's overcome this crowd, and free them, let's move them on and restore normality. life in kharkiv, yes, and now i am joined by lyudmila filipovych, religious scholar, doctor of philosophy, ms. lyudmyla, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, good evening, thank you for joining, and i want to talk with you about the following , now i will say two words to our viewers, the day before yesterday, in a big way unfortunately, the leadership of the verkhovna rada did not

put, deliberately gave this impression, they did not put to a vote, a very important project about... the closure of the ban on the activity of the moscow church in ukraine, they motivated it by the fact that they say there are not enough votes, although the opposition deputies are present on it the meetings that blocked the tribune said that there were enough votes, the leadership of the verkhovna rada simply did not want to put this issue to a vote, well, the meeting ended and they went to rest, and everyone was promised that they would vote later. that how will they return from the summer vacation, ms. lyudmila, but i have a question for you: in your opinion, why is it necessary to ban the activities of this moscow church as soon as possible, although on the other hand, is there another such question, is it even possible to call this one, in my opinion a pseudo-religious structure by the church?

you asked difficult questions and i will try to answer them, let's start from the end. from my point of view , the russian orthodox church really has lost the characteristics of a church, since it is not based on christian foundations, on the ideology of the russian world, which actively promoted by the regime and supported and also promoted by the patriarch of this church, patriarch kirill. we are experts for ourselves, i mean, we decided a long time ago what to call this subordinate church. it is very difficult for the state to organize, and, by the way, against this church, as a church structure itself, not only ukrainians spoke out, but we also know the signatories, theologians, theologians, orthodox theologians from all over the world who wrote a letter proposing

to condemn the patriarch cyril for this ideology of the russian world, because it is absolutely not responds christian foundations, well , now returning to your first question, what to do with this church, to ban it without a doubt, that is, the russian orthodox church cannot be on the territory of ukraine, because we have been waging a war for the 11th year, a full-scale war since the 22nd year, and at this time it is necessary to finally decide who this church is in general, well, you see, there are certain difficulties with regard to the ukrainian... orthodox church, because some people absolutely identify themselves as independent, self-governing, it is the ukrainian church that would is for independence, protects our sovereignty and so on, and this is usually at the level of ordinary believers and at the level of parish priests,

but with the leadership of this church , some metamorphosis is really taking place, but i haven't heard anything yet. you know, such a convinced and clear answer to the question, so you finally broke with the moscow patriarchate, or do you consider yourself a part of this pseudo-religious structure? there is no clarity, there is no transparency, and although we now do not see any direct statements on support for russia, putin, the putin regime, or patriarch kirill, but still... well, you know, everyone who thinks about this church immediately suspects that it is clearly not working for ukraine, but the church itself is spreading a very popular myth that she is persecuted, that she is persecuted in ukraine for her faith, for being a church martyr and so on, in order to justify her existence in ukraine, and

opposing the law that is in the first reading , you said correctly, 267 deputies supported this law on october 19, 2023, they hired an american law firm, amsterdam and partners, who wrote a simply devastating assessment of this law, although the law itself, believe me, was very liberal, it was prepared by the cabinet of ministers, and it was not called the ban of the moscow church. he spoke about the fact that it is necessary to ban any religious organization on the territory of ukraine that maintains its connection with a country that is recognized by the country as an aggressor, therefore... well, seeing that after 1200 amendments that were made to this original law, it is actually, well, original has changed in a way, now it is really prohibited

in relation to the moscow patriarchate, i think that it is completely inappropriate to limit the effect of this law only to this church and to extend it only to this church, we constantly have some, you know, organizations that show themselves, manifest as anti-ukrainians. as for the russian one, that's why i would prefer that we go back to the first such original text of the law and work better on this text, because there are obvious inaccuracies, you know that, well, 1200 amendments it was very, very difficult to agree, and therefore i have the impression that he came out a little eclectic, because they wanted to advance their own. and servants of the people, and the party, which means european unity, and other party structures, although, in my opinion, any law, it should be non-party, the law will operate

in ukraine, it should defend the interests of ukrainians. and i will say for the last time, i have a question, this law that is going to be adopted, this is the second reading, it will solve the problem of orthodoxy in ukraine, it will overcome disunity of the orthodox. on those who absolutely identify with ukraine and see their future exclusively in an independent state, and those who still have doubts, or those who collaborate, or cooperate and work for someone else's government, that means, if not their own confessional interest, but the interest to defend the whole of ukraine, it seems to me that this law turned out to be a piece of cake, so we need to work on it, i hope that there will be time for the specialized commission as well. led by nikita poturaev and the state service for ethnopolitics and freedom of conscience, after all reach an understanding so that a normal, sane european law comes out

that guarantees freedom of conscience, and at the same time understands that this freedom of conscience is realized in the colossal security situation in which ukraine is today. mrs. lyudmila, look, you said at the beginning, when you started to answer my... question about the fact that you haven't heard from the leadership of r, i wanted to say the russian orthodox church, i'm sorry, the moscow church in ukraine, you haven't heard about the fact that they broke up did they break up with moscow, but i am preparing to talk to you i read information about the fact that in the verkhovna rada there are some representatives, deputies who are, well , at least they call themselves parishioners of this church, and here they say that we should just... say that we are breaking up and not ban, like you do you think so? i was a member of the commission that analyzed the charter,

the new charter of this church, which was adopted at the council on may 27, 2023, and as a result of a careful reading of the text of this charter, the whole commission came to the conclusion that there was a rupture, so to speak , paper, yes, really. you stated that you are self-sufficient and independent, but there is no real separation. your representatives are part of the church structures of the russian orthodox church, are members of the regcollegiums there, maintain friendly relations with the spiritual schools in which they studied, and many other signs that indicate that you are far from being independent, well, in the orthodox world, you you represent yourself exclusively through the russian orthodox church, that is, no one in the west, in europe, in america or in other countries perceives you as an independent structure, and only as a part of the russian orthodox church,

that is, you know, as if all the words moscow patriarchate, russian orthodox church, and so on were removed from the statute, but in spirit the statute remained virtually like this, you know, well, incomprehensible, but i read it and i don't have it. for clarity, are you really independent, are you really, ukraine is never actually mentioned there, you can imagine, the charter of an organization operating in ukraine, which is registered in ukraine, in only one place there was mention of the appointment of the hierarchs of this church, that here on the territory of ukraine, there is no tuff there ukrainian, there is no patriotic spirit there, so for me this statute is simply a write-off, purely mechanical. which will in no way change the general strategy of this church, until those people who started the movement towards independence succeed, and i mean

the initiative that you... that arose two years ago in sofia of kyiv, when the priests of the ukrainian orthodox church and the orthodox church of ukraine gathered for an open dialogue, in order to press the leadership, to act as the time demands today, to respond adequately to those challenges, in which you are well, ms. lyudmila, and one more question, for me it remains a paradox that, given the fact that people know about the activities of this structure, they know... how it is tied to moscow, they know these narratives that come from priests of this church, all the same in ukraine a lot of people not only go to these churches, but also protect these churches with their backs, you can somehow explain this paradox, well at least to me, there are many reasons, you know, such as you say paradox, and i would not call it a paradox, but simply by ignorance and ignorance. of your

own history and unwillingness to identify yourself, that is, to realize your belonging to the country in which you live, this is due to the fact that, you know, for 30 years these people have been told that other alternative churches, they are schismatic, they are false , that salvation is possible only within the boundaries of this ukrainian orthodox church, and how do you want them to realize that in a year or two... a revolution took place in a believing person and that he accepted a completely different historiosophical paradigm, this does not happen, these people must had to work for 30 years, we missed this time, actually missed it, and moscow, on the contrary, did everything to get the result it hopes for, because where there is the ukrainian orthodox church, there is betrayal, there is collaboration, there is cooperation with the occupation regimes, not all of them are true. say

the representatives of this church, but for some reason , only about this church , questions constantly arise in our bodies, and in the police, and in the prosecutor's office, and especially in the sbu. for some reason, other priests and other churches were not recruited as many as 70, that is, criminal cases that are opened under very complex articles, such as, for example, treason to the motherland, or , for example, propaganda of religious... hatred and enmity and many other such articles, well , under these articles, people have already received, as then they say, court verdicts and they will bear the appropriate punishment, well, you said with these people, this is already the last question and a short answer, if possible, they did not work with these people, unfortunately, how to work now, it is difficult to say, i think what do you know, a lot falls on the shoulders of experts, so on

scientists on the history on religious scholars, well , of course, on representatives of the mass media, which are an excellent channel for conveying true information to people, to open their eyes, that is, to demonstrate true historical sources, to convince people, but i know one priest from the bukovina metropolitanate, such a roman hryshchuk, there where it appears, that is, in the parishes of the ukrainian orthodox church, a month later the parish makes a decision to change its jurisdiction, moves. from the moscow patriarchate to the ocu, so before that priest, there are arguments to convince people that today it is a shame to belong to the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate. i thank you very much, mrs. lyudmila, for participating in today's program, it was lyudmila filipovych, a religious scholar, doctor of philosophy, we talked with her about why it is so important now to ban the moscow church in ukraine, which from... and not

very in fact, it is not a church, given what it does, what it is, what is said in it, but is some pseudo-religious structure, so ms. lyudmila explained why. well, let's move on to the news. greetings, this is svoboda live on radio svoboda. we have already come to the snake itself. the following shots may shock you. news from the scene. live drone attacks, kamikaze. political analytics, objective. and meaningful, there is no political season, exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front. freedom life, frankly and impartially, you draw your own conclusions. verdict with serhiy rudenko, from now on in a new two-hour format, even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top