thank you, mr. serhiy, we, we, thank you for this conversation, and we are now moving on to the all-ukrainian moment of silence, a moment of remembrance for those who died in this war. let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.

in this issue, we talk about the details of the investigation in the farion case. the preventive measure for the arrested suspect, an 18-year-old young man, will be chosen in lviv. all that is known at this moment about the situation. we will discuss the murders of iryna farion in this ether. this is svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha, we are starting, join us. law enforcement officers detained an 18-year-old youth in the city of dnipro, who is suspected of murdering iryna farion. this was announced the day before by minister of internal affairs ihor klymenko and president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi. although before that, the authorities almost did not comment on the investigation. reports in the media appeared only with reference to anonymous sources. according to minister klymenko. there is enough evidence

to state that it was the detainee who shot the probationer, it was a quote. minister said that law enforcement officers worked continuously for 139 hours. operatives, investigators, analysts, sbu employees studied the route of departure of the alleged shooter and searched about 100 hectares of forest. video surveillance cameras helped to identify the suspect. klymenko said that during the preparation, the suspect rented at least three apartments in lviv. the suspect went to lviv by train, he also left the city. the investigation also believes that the alleged shooter is only the executor. at the moment, law enforcement officials are not releasing the name the suspect, but the media were able to identify him. the journalists of the scheme project found out that the 18-year-old boy studied at the dnipro gymnasium, played football at the sports school, played in the football team. journalists contacted the suspect's father, the man said that he was in the service and had not seen his son for a long time. but

learned about his detention from his wife. my wife called me today, she said that my son was detained, whether it was detention or arrest, it was not clear right away either, everything was not so smooth, my wife was kept outside apartment, took away the equipment, tortured my son, where would he get the money for this, i am sending a few thousand, but this is not enough, there were no motives for killing farion, he did not have any ukrainophobic views, he is a patriot, on the contrary, he graduated from the management courses of the national security agency. dala to join the ukrainian army, played football. currently, under the procedural guidance of the lviv regional prosecutor's office , a notice of suspicion of premeditated murder is being prepared for the detainee and the question of choosing a preventive measure is being resolved. they have a preventive measure choose in lviv. radio svoboda journalist halyna tereshchuk has been collecting testimonies regarding the circumstances of iryna farion's death these days and will tell us exclusive details of this case. she is now near iryna's house. farion

at the scene of the murder, congratulations colleague, tell me what the relatives of iryna farion and her neighbors say, and about the man who was seen in the yard for weeks, what are the testimonies and also about the circumstances of the murder? first of all, i would like to inform you that i know from unofficial sources that the suspect young man has not yet been delivered, who, in fact, the police call us suspects in the murder of professor iryna farion. we are now at... the place where this crime happened, we see that there are actually flowers and lamps here, there are more of them every day, because i have been here, and i can even observe and appreciate, and people come from time to time sometimes they stop here and even pray, the house of iryna farion, right here next to me, as you can see, there is also a passage, it is natural that on the evening of july 19, since i talked with relatives and neighbors, and with the lawyer of iryna farion, also had a conversation in

on the phone with many of those people who knew her and put forward some of their versions. on july 19 , there were a lot of children nearby on the playground, it was already evening, people had returned home, this young man was sitting here on... not far away on a chair that the residents brought out, and he moved with it from one place to another second place people said that they had seen him for more than a week, he was just hanging around the area, and he ran down this passage when he saw that mrs. farion came out of her driveway, she was waiting for a taxi, at 7:17 p.m. she called daughters and informed me that i was already on my way to you, they got together, at 5 o'clock in the morning on saturday they were supposed to go on vacation, and naturally here is the lady... he was waiting for a taxi, this young man ran into this passage, turned and shot up close, as my relatives told me, because there are three cameras here, one, two and three, that is, he knew very well that there were cameras here, he knew very well that there were cameras there,

because how to pass, it is all possible to calculate, he actually at this time, when the shot took place, it was about 19:30 minutes, in this area there was no electricity. i asked, i posed one such question: why did it happen, why was it so revealing, what does iryna farion's daughter sofia have to do with this murder and this crime, and now we can listen to what she told rfe/rl. i believe that she was killed for her language, for the truth, and for the fact that maybe the nation finally understood that if you... in your country, on your god-given land, speak the ukrainian language, then there will be victory, then step by step we let's go to victory, and the fact that she was shot on the day when everyone was sitting, in the summer,

it's just horror, that is, this person, she was not afraid of anything, he had a goal... and he was walking, he didn't care who was sitting, look, there is a playground here, grandmothers are sitting there, they made such a cell for themselves, he just to she was approached and killed, in the temple in the face, yes, he approached her in the shelter, that's all, and she left, colleagues, i was able to find out that mrs. farion passed the young man twice, walking from her house. down to the shop, but she didn't even notice him. then we also learned about that this young man, who fled after committing a crime, ran through the nearby streets past private houses, and allegedly got into some kind of car, but i will ask

the law enforcement officers about this in more detail, whether it was really so. i was also interested in whether there were any threats against iryna farion, because she was fired in november 2023. from the lviv polytechnic university because of statements in one of the interviews addressed to russian-speaking ukrainian fighters, and then the sbu initiated criminal proceedings under as many as four articles, and at that moment ms. forion received a lot of threats to her address, her phone number, her number, and all those phone numbers from which she received these threats, she gave them to the security service of ukraine for verification, changed her phone number herself, the lawyer, ms. farion , says that she has no once... she did not tell him that someone was threatening her, that there were some suspicious persons, that she also feared for her own life, irina farion's daughter also told me the same thing, that she had not heard from her mother about any such fear for his life. i talked to my friends

acquaintances, who in november, during those student protests, wrote on social networks that mrs. farion could threaten something there or now or in six months. and i asked people, why did you write like that? they talked about the fact that it could destabilize the situation, that is, there are many versions today, whether it was revenge or whether it was carried out to destabilize the situation, today there are many more questions than answers, where did this young man get the funds, and where is he let's say took the weapon, but i hope we get some answers from the police today to the questions that concern ukrainian society today. galyu, thank you, i hope so too. that we will get answers and within a few minutes, halyna tereshchuk, a journalist of radio liberty, joined our broadcast from lviv. thanks halo. and we continue to talk about the events that preceded today, about the arrest

of the suspect, which happened in dnipro, our correspondent, valeria kholodova, is now there , valeria followed the search, communicated with the neighbors of the detained young man. valery, congratulations, tell me what is known about the circumstances of this detention and about the suspect himself, congratulations, colleague, i am currently in the sleeping area of ​​dnipro. in the yard of the high-rise building, where the suspect allegedly involved in the murder of iryna farion was detained yesterday. an 18-year-old boy lived here with his mother, by the way, she works as a teacher, and his father is a military man, as the neighbors say, he went to serve at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, people here, local residents know the family very well, they were yesterday stunned by the news and events that unfolded simply. here everyone talks about that he is a very decent person, well, the guy was

intelligent, he studied well, he played sports, that is, he played football, well , he also studied at a higher school, let's hear what the neighbor says, they went to all kinds of games, i know them very well. he cannot do this at all, why, because the child has other goals. other tasks, he has a healthy lifestyle, a sports lifestyle, a decent lifestyle, he is a well-read, literate boy, so are his parents, very good, decent people, enrolled, studied to be a journalist, very good chappy. we did not manage to talk to the mother of the detained boy, she locked herself in the apartment, the family's lawyer came to the place, but he also refused to comment. my colleagues. were able to talk on the phone with the father, who is currently on duty, he says that at the moment he cannot say

whether his son went outside the city, because he is busy with other things defending our country, also according to him, the boy did not say anything that could testify about the dislike of iryna farion, and i will note that yesterday the investigative activities took place here all day, investigators were collecting evidence. well, they also interviewed potential witnesses, and at the moment it is known that the pre-trial investigation is being conducted by the police of the lviv region under the procedural guidance of the prosecutor's office of the lviv region, and it is there in lviv that the boy will be given a temporary preventive measure, but after he is notified of the suspicion, as of now , there is no such information that he has already been declared a suspect. colleague, valery. kholodova, a journalist of radio liberty in dnipro , told all the details that she knows as of this minute thank you, colleague. i will remind you,

dear viewers, that the search for the suspect lasted almost a week. let me remind you that on july 19, at 7:30 p.m., the police received a report that an unknown man shot a passerby on masaryk street in lviv. it turned out to be iryna farion, the linguist lived there, she was hospitalized with a gunshot wound to the head. but they could not save him. she died after 11 p.m. according to the doctors, her heart failed. irina farion was 60 years old. she was a deputy of the verkhovna rada of the seventh convocation in in the 12th-14th years from the "vo svoboda" party. she had radical views on the functioning of the ukrainian language. some of her statements caused loud public discussions. i invite the audience to ask your questions about this case. maryana reva, spokeswoman for the ministry of internal affairs, joined our broadcast. congratulations maryana, thank you for joining. good morning, studio, good morning, ukraine. maryana, as of this

moment, what is the status of the citizen who was detained in the dnipro yesterday? he is detained, in the near future he will be was notified of the suspicion of premeditated murder, in the future the court will choose a preventive measure for him, the investigation will continue, because a lot of work was done until the moment when the person was identified, as he was ... continues and will continue before the case is brought to court, this is to collect the entire evidence base, put together all the puzzles and already hand it over to the procedural manager so that the indictment has already gone to court, and when this happens, everything depends on the investigation, everything depends on the decision of the procedural manager, we are interested in... in gathering the evidence base as soon as possible, submitting it to the court, so that

the further fate of the detainee is decided already in the court process. now, what can he be called, in what status is he and how many hours can he be in this status or days before he is declared suspicious? the suspicion, i say, will be announced today within 72 hours, in accordance with the criminal procedure code of ukraine. a preventive measure should not be chosen for him, most likely it will happen today as well, so i say once again, we do not delay with all procedural decisions, and it is very important for us that every step is carefully recorded and the status of the person is recorded as required by the ccp. marjano, what preventive measure does the investigation require, or does the investigation ask the court, how, how is it formulated. in fact, this is done by the prosecutor's office, it is the prosecutor's office that will

bring the case to court, most likely it will be, it will be detention. for 60 days, but more precisely, the prosecutor's office will tell you whether or not these hours after the arrest of this young man , were any procedural actions carried out, did he give any testimony, did he possibly admit his guilt, or did he name his fellow students? since yesterday, since his detention, work is being carried out with him, operatives, investigators are communicating with him, and as soon as there is an opportunity, we will definitely report the first information. received, but only after the investigation gives permission to disclose this data. investigative actions at the place where verunufarion was shot, when will they be conducted? well, certain primary investigative actions have already taken place, in the future and depending on how the investigation will decide, there will be an investigative experiment. yes, it will be conducted when

the investigation deems it necessary. what evidence does the investigation have now to assert as he said. mr. minister, is there enough evidence to claim that it was the detainee who shot the linguist? well, we have, first of all , the identification of the person on the video from the surveillance cameras, where we have his complete movement and route. we have information about the apartments he rented during his stay in lviv. let me remind you that this is at least three apartments. and i want to note that in the near future there will be a briefing of the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine, the national police of ukraine, the office of the general prosecutor and the security service, where more information will be made public, depending on what information the investigation will allow to show. mr. minister also said yesterday that smart surveillance cameras caught the suspect

everywhere, whether surveillance cameras can be a hundred percent guarantee that this is the person who. the investigation suspects today, she was on matsarika street when she was recorded by cameras in the area where iryna farion lived. listen, where there is an image of a person on masaryk street, he was disguised. smart cameras helped us track down the perpetrator, and helped us detain a person suspected of committing this crime in dnipro. i will tell a little about how it happened. first. you know, he was using camouflage, he was in panama, he was wearing special glasses, and that part of his face was exposed that really gave us almost no chance of him to identify, a huge amount of work was carried out by the operational units, we managed to establish the identity, and then after receiving

his photo, she was chased away, let's say, through video surveillance cameras and here... these cameras, smart cameras, they have already shown him to us on the main streets the city where he walked without his disguise, and only later, when he was also recorded in the dnipro, we already understood where we should go, where to look for him, so surveillance cameras, this is not a guarantee, it is not a certain proof, only if the moment of the crime is not recorded directly, it is a tool... to find a person, to identify him in certain cases and to arrest him. i refer again to the quotes of minister klymenko, he also said that there is enough evidence, this quote, to claim that it was the detainee who shot the linguist, does this wording not contradict the presumption of innocence of the person? well, we

have corresponding evidence to assert that they are already in the framework of the investigation as well. if they allow it, we will make it public, and if they don't allow it, that's it the prosecutor's office, the prosecutor's office in closed mode, to the judge, will disclose this data, but as the investigation assured us, the operatives assured us, that this particular person, he is reasonably suspected of committing this crime, in fact, that is why he will be notified of the suspicion , he is the main figure and will be selected as a precautionary measure. during the pre-trial investigation, have the police now found the weapon with which iryna farion was actually shot? i do not have this information at this time. without relative to that, it we are talking about the arrest of this 18-year-old youth there yesterday, if we talk in principle about that photo robot, that portrait

that everyone in social networks and the media could see from the surveillance cameras at the scene of the crime, where the 18-year-old youth, where the youth could learn handle weapons, shoot accurately, and whether the investigation qualifies this person as a professional killer or an amateur? we can definitely say that this person knew how to handle weapons, we can definitely say that he had some sufficient knowledge to work the route, in order to work out the disguise, it is also not very easy to do, whether he was a professional, how long he was engaged in this, it will be known during the investigation, but it is clear that he was preparing to commit this crime, and as yesterday in one. .. and appeals, the minister of internal affairs reported that it was at least two months to prepare for this crime,

he ordered the relevant, relevant main election back in may, and there is evidence that confirms this, minister klymenko reported that the law enforcement officers, as part of this investigation, searched including about 100 hectares of forest, why were they searched in the forest, if the suspect, according to the version of the investigation, he... entered lviv by train and left the city by train, we only learned about the fact that he entered and left the city by train after we we managed to identify him, until this moment our trail, which he used to leave the scene of the crime, he got lost right in the forest, behind lviv, you know, there is a certain forest strip, large plantations. forestry, and this is the point where we last caught him on camera when he was leaving the scene of the crime, that is, he was in disguise, he was in glasses, i want to remind, that is, we did not have

an image of this person, and when we realized that his trail was lost in the forest, huge forces were directed to combing every area to find a moment, clues, maybe he is still there. .. maybe he got out by some path, that is, we did not rule out any possibility, even, let's say, impossible, but it was important for us to find him, and therefore a large force was used, and the national guard was used in addition to the police and other special services in order to to comb this forest, not to to miss a single clue, then , again, once we identified him, we had him... then it was only a matter of time to track him on surveillance cameras and see that he was actually traveling on a train. maryana, does

the investigation understand whether there were classmates, well, there was already a statement that it was obviously not him, this person could not have organized it alone, because there were also testimonies that there were cars, and he even changed two cars. when this person left the scene of the crime after the shots, and that is, do you fix your classmates, or maybe you leave the trail of some of them? found those cars that could be involved in this process? unfortunately, i do not have this information, but i can definitely say that the investigation so far believes that the person who shot ms. farion is the perpetrator, accordingly, we understand that there may be an organizer, that there may be a person with whom he kept communication in order to successfully carry out this crime, and... is working, as soon as there is information, when it can be released, we will release it, this customer in ukraine located, are there any certain facts that you

can tell about it, who is it? it is not possible to say anything definitely now. does the investigation know whether irina farion was threatened on the eve of the murder? i can only say that there are no messages either from mrs. iryna or from the residents of the house before. which this person spent at least a week in the same clothes every day did not come. this person who is caught on camera, who is wearing such specific clothes, and could this person be a person who distracts from directly there another performer who could have committed these shots? believe me, the investigation is not focused on one fact, it... is not focused on one version and all options are being developed in parallel, whether there is an option in the versions that it could have been, for example, a sniper, and not a person who

approached and shot. unfortunately, i do not have this information. yes, okay, mrs. maryana, i also want to clarify, i understand that there will probably be more information today, but regarding the motives, the father of the suspect, detained in dnipro told the boy about what he told the journalists of the schemes about what i am quoting, his son had no motives for killing farion, nor did he have any ukrainophobic views, he is a patriot, what motive did the investigation find at this moment? well, actually, that's what the investigation works for. of course, they have a motive and they are gathering evidence to back it up, as it is called, but i do not have permission from the investigation to release any information regarding this motive, the only thing i can note is that we are left with three versions, which we previously voiced regarding motives for committing this crime, it is a personal failure to appear, it is a public activity, ms. farion, and there is the involvement of the enemy to

destabilize the situation. state, that is , this is what we can voice, there is no more data from the investigation yet. we see that the president of ukraine reacts to the investigation and says that the society should know all the details, and is there no rush in the investigation due to the resonance of the case and the task, perhaps from the president, to provide all these details to the society as soon as possible. there is no rush in the investigation, because once again i say, it will depend on how carefully and how clearly this evidence base is collected. courts, but society is in a hurry, people are actively discussing this story, so maybe it looks like everything is happening in a hurry precisely in the pre-trial investigation, no, i can assure you that the pre-trial investigation is clearly following its own direction of work and carefully collects all evidence base in a hurry.

is there no pressure, and, as you said, of course not, of course not, there is no interest, there is only an interest in investigating this crime qualitatively and already bring the case to trial. thank you for joining in and sharing those details on our broadcast. maryana reva, spokeswoman for the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine, was a guest of svoboda ranok. i see quite a few of your comments. and thank you for your active participation in this broadcast, continue to write and ask them, because of course, as we say here with colleagues, there are many more questions than answers, at least for now, we receive exclusive comments simply on the live broadcast of svoboda ranok, and now we will to analyze what was heard from the spokeswoman of the ministry of internal affairs, valery kur, the head of the criminal intelligence department and the founder of ubs of ukraine, joined our broadcast, welcome to our broadcast, thank you for joining, ee, good morning, studio,

good morning, dear. listeners and viewers, you heard, i understand, maryana reva, and her answers to the questions i asked, and what questions do you still have, let's say, before this whole process with the search, with the search for the alleged murderer iryna farion, well, i listened and to be honest, i really like it i like this dialogue of yours, it reminds me, they remind me that this is the conversation between the judge and the defendant in court, the defendant is an investigation, i will tell you, you looked very dignified, marina, what are you, you are so categorical, that's exactly how you are the question in the court will be asked by the chief judge himself, who will make the decision, and i will tell you, marina, well, in relation to other political figures who are now

also being asked, tell everything faster, she looks more competent, so i will say that i will to speak, it my personal opinion, i do not want to influence the investigation in any way, you said very correctly, you asked the question very correctly, and please tell me... uh, why do they say that he is the one who killed, the murderer, right , and she replied, it's a suspect, that's why the investigation likes silence, the investigation and operative work likes silence, i like that very quickly, very quickly they found the suspect god, the suspect, no way, no way, you were right, but what kind of

proof is this? such yes, this, eh, eh.