range and rises up and down, these are again new challenges for radio electronic warfare complexes and other means to be able to destroy these drones, that is why the dynamics are so dynamic, let's say taftology, but nevertheless it is very fast is changing and we must also move quickly, i.e. work out possible scenarios of the enemy's actions in the future and already build our systems of detection, warning, destruction of drones, suppression of means of electronic warfare in advance, because we have to... understand where he can move, we can in principle predict such actions. mr. anton, you said that it is necessary to systematically approach the formation, detection and destruction of drones, and when we talk about the tactical level, we have a situation where the tactical level is quite saturated with reb means, maybe even oversaturated, but the coordination of this work, it sometimes sags, so how to ensure on a tactical level that your own means do not suppress your own fpv drones. so that the actual

means of intelligence work in such a way that sooner detect enemy drones rather than being confused about detecting your own drones, what are the possible solutions? well, look, here you need to make several such decisions, they must be so thorough, you know, this is a lifelong war between electronic intelligence and electronic warfare, because rer needs to invent a source of radio radiation, and rap needs to suppress it, unlike electronic intelligence it is necessary... to observe the source of radio radiation more in order to get the maximum information from it, that's it primordial war, let's say so, but nevertheless, it can be solved, and first of all, the first key step is a very fundamental interaction between units, that is, units that carry out electronic suppression must very much interact with electronic intelligence units, with fire damage units and to actively and really know how to feel where what is happening and act together, because it will be important including. to carry out both

defensive actions and offensive operations, to carry out, say, such conditions in order to it was possible to create, let's say, conditions for the use of own drones when the electronic situation is very complex, when the enemy is working very intensively, this is a very important task for electronic warfare complexes, that is, the first step, the unconditional step is coordination of actions, maximum coordination, maximum cooperation with units, there should be competition, there should be thoughts that something needs to be gained. to pay from the enemy, but nevertheless we must understand that coordination must be key here in this matter. the next point is a more intense development of the means of electronic warfare, we have to create means of rep, more, let's say, flexible from the point of view of suppressing the frequency range, from the point of view of choosing this frequency range, we also have to again link the coordination of actions with the capabilities of those technical tools that exist, that is, where they can work and how they can work at the tactical level. more powerful, that is, if

at the leading edge we are talking about a smaller power of radiation for suppression signals, then at a deeper level we use definitely more powerful means to suppress the enemy's signals, but again here , in addition to smart devices, in addition to, let's say, a smart reb, we must understand that coordination... every time coordination, only for the organization of coordination work between these units, in that and what the other uses, there is an opportunity to win, i understand, every serviceman, every commander, they definitely worry about the life and health of a serviceman, it is valuable and priceless for us, let's say, but nonetheless, we have to coordinate, the more effective the coordination of these actions will be and the better the means of regular combat will be in terms of the use of different ranges, ranges, the more effectively the undercut will work. i would like

to ask one more question, whether it would not be logical to create, in particular, separate battalions of ribs or separate brigades of ribs, which, coordinating interaction with each other, would provide a line of development and defense not by their own forces, without relying on scattered means that are scattered around mechanized motorized infantry or other brigades there, well, look, i would be here it's a bit of a controversial issue, and here you need to look in... in depth, because the level of tasks that the brigade solves, let's say this, well , relatively speaking, the brigade of electronic warfare, electronic intelligence there, it's a completely different level, and much bigger, more serious, more powerful means that are used here are means of an operational, operational-strategic level, if we are talking about solving problems at a tactical level, we will not get anywhere, that the military personnel in the units will have the means. individual protection in context

means of radio-electronic countermeasures, and this creates again a certain background of radio-electronics, and therefore we have such and such a rupture, let's say so, on the one hand, if we consider this picture. means of rep, operational-strategic level, which can in principle suppress any interference, let's say, from a lower frequency to a higher frequency, on the one hand, they monitor the entire frequency range, on the other hand , we see that on the tactical level will be a large number of various means that will work in any case, we are nowhere here let's go, you understand, because military personnel, units, commanders, they are worried about their subordinates, and there will appear by means of rebs, here it is necessary again in the current conditions, when circles are intensively... the enemy's use of drones, because the density and its use is very high, there are more than a dozen different drones in use at 100 m, and in this dense situation, this complex radio-electronic situation, it imposes a very complex imprint on the use of troops, and further, once again,

the key point is technological means and coordination of the work of all divisions, from the operational-strategic level to the tactical level, i understand that it is difficult to do. but the general battlefield, the general picture of the radio-electronic situation, it must be at the command post, and it must clearly and the commander must clearly see where what, what is the resource of means of suppression and where is the human resource in order to act in the offensive, i.e. that's all, paneta, thank you very much for these interesting, important explanations for our viewers, let me remind you that it was anton mikhnenko, a military an expert on security and technology issues, these were the main military results of this day, then the broadcast will be continued by yuri fizer, so stay tuned to the channel. thank you serhiy zgurets, these were the military results of the day, i thank you for being with us, and the spresso tv channel and the vesna charitable fund opened a fundraiser for the purchase of modern drones and

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komikatsi drones, we are very much asking for your help, glory to ukraine, to the heroes, glory, to the heroes of glory we respond, and our answer should still be... donations, which are requested, urgently the guys ask for these drones, which are so necessary for them. let's get involved, and at least for a hryvnia , each of us will drop on that qr code, on that card number that you saw on the screen, and we will be able to complete this collection as soon as possible and send the drones to the guys. well, now we let's talk about what is happening in the regions, and i have already been joined by ivan vlashchenko, deputy head of the chernihiv regional state administration, mr. ivan, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. eternal glory to the heroes, good evening. good evening to you too. mr. ivan, tell me what was flying there last night, because i read that it was flying, and even in the vicinity of chernihiv there were, loud explosions were heard. for us, flying is not news.

residents of the region are used to the fact that the russians continue to either fly or shoot. therefore this a phenomenon for us, to our great regret, over the past three years, probably, which is already natural, they really try to target sensitive objects, sometimes they partially succeed, sometimes not so much, as a rule, the defense forces fully ensure security, both air and ground space of the territory of chernihiv region. i understand that the greatest danger is now in those border settlements that border on the russian, still russian, still the federation, but whether or not there are any movements on the part of belarus, i apologize, i said to belarus,

belarusians, belarus, i would, i would not say that we are observing some activity on the part of our neighbors. other northern ones, the situation is quite stable and controlled, the border guards fully ensure the security of the state border, together with other... defense and security forces of the ukrainian state. now let's talk about something else, well , unfortunately, your region suffered a lot of destruction, and russian missiles hit civilian infrastructure, russian missiles hit, unfortunately, houses objects of the residential complex of the region. tell me, please, how our region is being rebuilt during this time. we are rebuilding quite actively, primarily thanks to the state program there is

restoration, if we talk about damaged property, we received about more than 4,600 applications, 2,700 are light repairs, 170 are capital repairs for a total amount of almost uah 300 million, if we we are talking about destroyed property, it was. about a thousand applications were submitted, 476 certificates were issued and 200, more than 200 were sold for about uah 700 million, i.e. chernihiv region is quite active in this respect. and how critical the situation with energy is, because, as far as i understand, there were hits on energy infrastructure facilities. the situation with the energy sector. i would not like to single out chernihiv region from other

regions, but thanks to our energy, thanks to the defense forces, they were able to repair the damage done by the russians to a certain extent and prevented further attacks. now let's talk about something else, were the houses you lived in destroyed? will be and the authorities, as far as i understand, yours is helping them to rebuild these houses, but i suspect that it is not possible to do everything that is planned, and therefore , is there any program to provide housing for those people who now have nowhere to live temporarily, and of one or another for objective reasons, first of all, the state cannot block the needs of the people. in housing, here we closely cooperate with charitable organizations,

local self-government bodies help somewhere, i would just like to give an example that this work is constantly dynamic, just last week in one of settlements, which is located near chernigov, the charity fund to ukraine with love, these are our friends from america, provided people with fully equipped modular houses, and let's say our queue for... people in need of housing has decreased thanks to our international partners who always support and lend a shoulder, and i will repeat that this process is dynamic, it is constantly moving, and we constantly try to help people in one way or another in terms of providing at least temporary housing. mr. ivan, well, one last thing question for you, please tell me if you have any, i think you have some statistics, have people started coming back more? to the region, i mean those who left after the start of the full-scale

invasion? i will not tell you the exact statistics, but the dynamics are there, because businesses are being restored, people are returning to work, there was a very large influx of people immediately after the armed forces of ukraine and other defense forces kicked out the russians from the region, then a large part of the people, who in the first days of... a full-scale invasion left, then a large part of the people returned, now more such migration processes are taking place precisely from the border chernihiv oblast, where shelling occurs more often, and so, let's say, the situation in this regard is more or less stable. i thought this would be the last question, but you mentioned business recovery, and i also want to ask you if there are any state programs that are used in the region to help local businesses, of course, of course. and there are a number of government loans, there are loans

to make yourself more energy-independent, the state also helps to employ internally displaced persons, there are certain compensators for taxes, the state helps to employ veterans who have returned from the war, there is assistance for setting up a workplace, there are also compensators for... taxes on wages, and that's just what lies on the surface, i think that the employers who are directly involved in this, together with the employment center, together with... the relevant state bodies, can tell more deeply. i thank you, mr. ivan, for participating in today's program, it was ivan vlashchenko, the deputy head of the chernihiv regional state administration, and i talked with him about how the region, in particular chernihiv oblast, how he lives in the second and a half years of a full-scale invasion, still

by the russian and still by the federation on the territory of ukraine, in particular on the territory of the region, about what programs exist. to help people, about how to rebuild housing, about how to help businesses, well, all this is sometimes, as mr. ivan said, i would like, maybe more, but all this is there, people return, businesses are given the opportunity to work, and that's why it's good, it was ivan lashchenko, the deputy head of the chernihiv regional state administration, well, what about a high-profile case in lviv, literally 15 minutes ago, the chairman. the judge announced that vyacheslav zinchenko, the 18-year-old suspect in the murder of iryna farion , was remanded in custody and will be held in custody until september 22 of this year, that is, the remand was chosen for 60 days, it was shown, i was watching on one of

the monitors about how he behaved the suspect, well, he was somehow very frankly like... here he behaved arrogantly, and he showed it on camera, well, more about this, about this high-profile trial, i will talk to oleg mytsyk, a criminal lawyer, who will join us soon , i have a lot of requests for him, well, not a lot, but a lot of questions, and i think that he will be able to answer them professionally, because there are certain points that were already pointed out by representatives of civil society, we all want, i want to add right away, all of us we want this case to be investigated as soon as possible and the killer of ms. iryna brought to justice as soon as possible, but we do not want the authorities to do something similar, which they have already done many times, and simply find someone and hang everything on someone, and

call someone guilty in this crime, and at the same time this person may be... innocent, although it seems to me, it seems to me personally, this is my subjective opinion, but from everything that i have read, that i have seen, it seems to me that everything after all, this suspect is vyacheslav zinchenko, he is very similar to the photos that were shown, well, to those videos from the scene of the crime and that he could be like that, well, but how will it be, well, we will watch, we will follow this trial, it seems like this trial i'd like it to be... short, but i have a suspicion that it might get long, since the defense will be filing probably thousands of different submissions that will then be considered, thousands, well not thousands, okay, dozens of objections by the judge, and to drag out this process, well, i'm all about it i want to talk to oleg oleg mytsik,

a criminal lawyer, and i also want to say that our journalist is working. under the court building and we will have an inclusion with - with her, so that she also tells some details, the details of what happened during the court session. come on, while we're out of it, i 'll remind you once again that the espresso tv channel and the vesna charitable fund have opened a fundraiser for the purchase of modern drones and electronic warfare systems for the third separate assault brigade. 110th and 47th brigades armed forces of ukraine. the defenders in the donetsk direction every day hold back enemy attacks, defend our freedom and future. well, it was these soldiers who stood to the last and defended the avdiiv direction in the spring, so there are a lot of losses and resources need to be replenished. they urgently need weapons and modern

means of countering enemy drones. these technologies are critical to protecting our soldiers. our goal... uah 3.5 million, we remember that every donation brings us closer to victory, together we will be able to protect those who protect us. good health, dear ukrainians, we, the fighters of the first assault battalion of the third separate assault brigade, who defend our native land on the front lines, urgently need your help. we need means of radio-electronic warfare against the enemy's small bpolas and komi drones. we are very much asking for your help, glory to ukraine, heroes, heroes, glory, well, we all answer to the heroes, glory, and let’s answer, let’s answer this request from... our brave soldiers with your donations, even 1 hryvnia each, if you drop it on qr -code, or to the card that you seen on the screen, and it will help us

efficiently, quickly complete the collection and send these drones to the front line. well, i am joined by my guest, oleg mytsik, a criminal lawyer, joining, mr. oleg, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, good evening, good evening, mr. oleg, well... look, from that information, that we have at the moment, and maybe you even have some more inside information from the pre-trial investigation, from what you know, whether the authorities can and have the right to say with such certainty that the suspect could have committed this crime, because during the court session, i will now read, the lawyer of the suspect, who also appeared there, denies the detention of the boy, and he says that according to him there is no evidence except ... being in lviv was not examined there, well, let's be objective, i, also representing clients,

always deny taking into custody, detention, and suggest a milder preventive measure. this stage, which is currently underway, the raising of suspicion and the selection of a preventive measure, does not oblige the state to gather evidence that would definitely warrant her conviction. we are talking about the fact that suspicion is a complex of information and data that tie a person to a given crime in the amount that allows an outside observer to make sure that she could have committed this offense, law enforcement officers will have more time, objectively for this day, from the moment of his detention or a few days from the moment of the crime, to conduct examinations, well, it is physically impossible, honestly, frankly speaking, i would like to hear from the group of prosecutors who spoke in court, a greater the volume of the evidence base, and the analysis that i,

for example, heard at the briefing of the ministry of internal affairs, there is an objective connection, it is not necessary for an expert to prove it in an expert way, there are documents that are difficult to deny and from which you can draw some definite conclusions, i want to say that in this case the national police... literally saw a needle in a haystack, after analyzing a large array of documents, objectively proved, well, brought to the person's door, and was also able to seize his mobile phone, which is the most interesting medium information, a lot of information that will be analyzed, which was not announced, if you remember at the briefing, they just closed this part of the messages, because they are being worked on, their disclosure is still premature. certainly, among what we have heard in today's trial, we have not heard of any direct and obvious evidence. prosecutors referred to their presence in the case file. the lawyer objectively

referred to the fact that to date no person has seen directly in the person's face and is not a direct witness of the person's act and does not testify against him, there is no expertise that would point to the video images of the match, etc., well, but i repeat, this is the stage at which the introduction of an unconditional beyond reasonable doubt of the person's guilt is still optional. let's hope that the investigation will be able to properly present the information that we heard today in the form of evidence, such as protocols, reviews, relevant examinations, testimonies of people who can testify and indicate something, and after that there will be an analysis, but together with that, as for me, as for... the observer, this volume the information that was referred to at the briefing today, it cannot be refuted during such a process that

took place today, it is impossible to deny the validity of the suspicion just by saying that there is not a single examination yet, there are documents that were referred to by the law enforcement officers. thank you, mr. oleg, but one more question is being considered, given your considerable experience in the legal profession, please tell me how long such processes of the same type can drag on and how long this process can drag on. considering the fact that there is already information that the suspect's lawyer is going to file an appeal, and there will probably be many judges' recusals afterwards, how long can this process last? let's do this, let's divide, first, her appeal of the preventive measure does not stop the investigation in any way, the investigation will work in parallel, it will take some time. the prosecutors who will go to the appellate instance, the recusals of the judges, you know, this process that we just watched today was somewhat boring because there was none. such

the impression is that the defense attorney did not have enough time to prepare the proper documents and lay out the arguments on the shelves, he was just hired, but as a rule, at such a moment there is an attempt to delay the process in order to achieve the expiration of 72 hours of the release of the person, etc. regarding the terms of the investigation, i think, in within a six-month period, the pre-trial investigation body will handle it, legalize documents, perform expert examinations within a six-month period, the case will be referred to the court, as for the consideration, this issue is more complicated, as a rule, consideration of cases is always delayed, there is a problem in the questioning of witnesses, victims, eyewitnesses, who have to be brought from different regions, who are difficult to appear. in this case, this case will be based on the analysis of materials. i do not predict if the information about which the national police talked about is confirmed, it hinted so, did not say more. spoke

about the huge amount of video, about the search of some areas of the forest, we heard it. if all this leads to documents that will make the case, uh, maybe other evidence can be obtained. now there is a mobile phone, there is a clear link to some kind of billing, i think that the range of searches will be expanded or, on the contrary, narrowed, then i think that this process will not take many years, it will not be very long-term, although in ukraine we have a habit any case for... is being delayed, i think that public control here will not allow it to be delayed, look, one more question, ms. iryna's family is demanding a fair trial, well, i wanted to ask whether there is a fair trial in ukraine, whether this trial will be fair , well, i can't say at the moment about any sign of injustice, on the contrary , the defense side will say that the court is unfair, because they spoke in advance about the guilt of this person, i think that... what

can we assume that in lviv oblast they will approach the consideration of such a high-profile murder objectively, the grounds in my opinion no. yes, the right to a fair trial is directly written in the european convention on human rights, but it primarily concerns the accused so that his rights are protected, it does not concern the victim, but here the issue was different, the right to the law enforcement officers revealed and identified and detained the guilty person. it was a big risk because, as we have seen, after the first few children there were strong suspicions that the person managed to hide and did not leave objectively any information about his real and true appearance. by the way, a teenager who, well, an 18-year-old man already, who committed this crime, carefully disguised himself, he read such, you know, superficial literature about committing a crime and disguising his perpetrators.

but he was actually acting like a child because you you see, he saved everything in his electronic gadget, all the information that he was waiting for, where he sent, to whom he wrote, with whom he corresponded, where he was, he left all the traces that can only be left, that is , a person who, excuse me, conspired and almost changed her appearance during the commission of the crime, all the evidence about how she did it and where she was... that she changed herself, where she moved, where she received the package, kept in her own phone, which the police managed to get without destroying it, you see, the words of the minister of internal affairs, we were there for 2-3-4 minutes, i don't know if they were put to sleep, stunned, there was some smoke in the apartment, but the gadget was not destroyed and objectively the person will be proven to be responsible for his certain phone, certain information and his

certain interests well, sending evidence to yourself, that is, clothes and a list of these clothes, by the way, there is a doubt here, how the law enforcement officers of the new post office can know the contents of the parcel, that the words that were given to us in the certificate, i personally have doubts about it, most likely there is a video recording of the packaging or box checks, but this is another matter, and these actions indicate that the person who is now suspected and the suspicion, on the one hand, masked the actions, and on the other hand, the level of her awareness of the modern information space and evidence in such criminal cases was extremely low, and she left mass, mass of traces, which law enforcement officers have a chance to obtain and turn this information into evidence, which should be.