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who is behind the murder of iryna ferion, what were the motives of the attacker and why did the linguist become a victim, we analyze. versions and details of the tragedy in today's edition of the bbc, i'm olga polamaryuk. a week after the murder of iryna farion, there are more questions than answers, but the investigation already has a suspect. he was detained the day before, and today in lviv the court chose a preventive measure. officially, his name was not mentioned, although he introduced himself in court. the meeting was emotional, there was a lot of press, iryna farion's daughter came. the investigation establishes the motives in...
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murders, consider social and political activities, personal animosity, among the versions also the involvement of russian special services. vyrina farion was shot last friday near her house in lviv, later she died in the hospital. my colleague ilona grumluk worked in the court today, she tells what the atmosphere was like during the session and what the suspect himself said, they brought the detainee, he is an 18- year-old boy who is suspected of murdering iryna farion. the boy was examined for several days, he comes from dnipro, the police conducted a whole operation to find out the identity of this guy. his photo was taken, the photo was distributed from the first days after the murder. it is known that he came to lviv and rented three apartments here, and that he sent clothes to himself by new mail, sent them himself and already received them himself. there was such a banana in those clothes,
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and you can often see him in various photos, in the photos that the police later sent out, suspecting that they show the killer of iryna farion, we still don't know if he admits his guilt or not, in the hall journalists and other people had the opportunity to attend the court to get to know the guy, talk to him a little, in general he doesn't talk much, the judge is present, the daughter of iryna parimonchyshyn was present and she... was quite upset and asked him a lot of questions, in particular she asked why he was drinking her mother, what for the guy said, time will tell what this phrase means, we cannot interpret and do not know, and we will see how the court will develop further, in general, the atmosphere in the court was calm, there was such tension, when the daughter of irina faron was talking to the guy, she asked them many questions, curse. but his boyfriend
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was quite confident, sometimes he was wrong, but in general he didn't answer questions much. the day before , messages appeared on telegram channels from the national socialists, which is a group that once operated in russia, and they published a message, allegedly about the moment of farion's murder, which was sent to them as a manifesto of the killer, does this video belong to the guy who was detained , we don't know either, and... the police haven't commented yet on whether it's somehow related or not, they're dealing by checking this video. it is striking how young this detainee is, he is actually a teenager, 18 years old, he is sitting in the courtroom in a football uniform, it is noticeable that he is so confident, but somewhat scared, the murder of iryna farion shocked lviv and ukraine, because it actually happened in daytime near iryna farion's house and... and it was such
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an impressive circumstance. yes, and it was the bbc correspondent lona gromluk, who followed the court session in the halytskyi court of lviv throughout the day. well, already in the evening, the court arrested the suspect for two months without the right to pledge. the murder of irina farion united people, the manifestation of this was how many people came to the funeral, several thousand. people did not... cry , calling iryna farion the modern leader of the ukrainian nation and demanding that the culprit be found and brought to justice as soon as possible. the suspect was detained already the day before, president volodymyr zelenskyi was the first to announce this. in his telegram channel, he wrote that hundreds of law enforcement officers were working to solve the murder, and that an 18-year-old boy had been arrested. today the minister of internal affairs held a briefing for 139 hours.
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according to ihor klymenko, that's how long the search operation lasted, he was detained in dnipro, that's where he lived. how did the trace of the suspect turn out? which versions were considered, the details of the detention were collected by my colleagues, let's take a look. 139 hours of searching, more than nine hundred witnesses and thousands of images and videos, and the law enforcement officers managed to find the suspect in the murder of iryna farion, who turned out to be this 18-year-old young man, who introduced himself in court as vyacheslav zinchenko. details of the crime the minister of internal affairs of ukraine ihor klymenko shared today. we were there in person, we saw where we were lying. where the criminal was located, and this week we established the full timeline and timing of this suspect's life during these 10 days that he was preparing to commit the crime. on july 9 , 10 days before the murder of iryna farion, the suspect came to lviv, where
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he changed his place of residence three times for the purpose of conspiracy. he looked for housing through a popular booking service, and he bought the clothes in which he committed the crime in various cities of ukraine with by delivery to... dnipro, but then the suspect sent all the items by new mail to lviv. among them was a false beard, but it is not yet known whether he used it. according to minister of internal affairs klymenko, the investigators established that the suspect carefully prepared for the murder of the linguist, laid out routes to the scene of the crime, changed his clothes and surveyed the surrounding area. the witness provided the investigation with this photo of a man in panama. for a long time, he came and sat near the house of the former police officer. a day. on july 19 , the killer was dressed just like that. he shot iryna farion while she was waiting for a taxi outside her house. after firing a shot, the killer fled from the crime scene. two days later, on july 21, the day of iryna farion's funeral, the suspect left lviv by train and
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arrived in dnipro the next morning. the weapon with which the linguist was killed has not yet been found. it is known beforehand that the killer hid her. the search for the suspect was further complicated by the fact that in the photo provided by the witnesses, he was a senior citizen. the law enforcement officers had to process almost a hundred faces, and when his identity was established, the arrest operation was thorough they cooked for almost a day. one of the questions that still remains unanswered is the motive and information about accomplices, and as society recovers from the brutal murder of iryna farion, law enforcement continues to unravel the details. the family of the deceased linguist assures that they will continue the fight for justice. glorious ukraine, gay-gay cheered up. well, it is important to note that the 18-year-old suspect is charged with intentional homicide. his defender was tight-lipped when talking to journalists, he said that the guilt of the detainee has not yet been proven.
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vyacheslav zinchenko himself, that's the name of the suspect after the measure of preventive measure was chosen for him, told the press that he does not admit his guilt. and by the way... the defense asked for 24-hour house arrest for the suspect with wearing an electronic tracking bracelet. read more about how the suspect in the murder of iryna farion was given a preventive measure, what he said in court, read on our website bbc.ua, how, according to the investigation, the murder of farion was prepared and what the suspect said in court. yes, and now the investigation checks the motives for committing the crime. well , there are several of them, it is either religious enmity, or national, or personal, but there is one more important detail: according to one of the versions , the suspect could be involved in the neo-nazi movement, and his center could be in russia, this is indicated by such a report in to a russian
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internet channel, it was said that the national socialists, representatives of the nsvp movement, allegedly took responsibility for the murder and released a few... second video, but it is not yet known whether the young man is related to this organization, until now this group was known for its radical actions on the territory of russia, and what exactly is this movement, what is known about it, what is its ideology and how dangerous it is, my colleagues asked the political scientist and researcher of far-right movements, anton shikhovtsov, about this . this movement, yes, this is not an organization. organization, it originated in the late 2000s in russia, and was actually an internet platform at the time where people with neo-nazi views, or close to them, discussed direct action, and perhaps subcultural issues that they were interested it is necessary to understand that in 2008-2009
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in russia there was not only a fear of far-right violence, which was followed by rather large-scale repressions by the state and by law enforcement agencies against the most extreme. groups nsvp was first of all an internet platform that turned into a certain movement. for example, in some place the far-right group may have had its own name, but because the platform. was popular, then they enrolled themselves in nsvp. this does not mean that they all gathered together for all-russian gatherings. in they mainly communicated via the internet. nsvp, like other movements, carried out direct actions. they would fight migrants, homeless people, and others whom the neo-nazis did not consider human, or who they believed harmed the white race. the svp is one of the networks, it is not a hierarchical organization, it consists of individual representatives and autonomous ones. cells, judging by what we saw in the telegram channel, which is related to the nsvp, they did not take
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responsibility for the murders in arion, but published a manifesto, and we do not know what it is for the manifesto, the main question is the person who was detained in ukraine on suspicion of the murder of iryna farion, we do not know whether it is he, its author, or whether the text was edited, there are still many questions, currently the telegram channel of the nsvp published this manifesto, allegedly related to . with the farion murder, and they called the farion murder an autonomous accomplice. this is a common definition of people who share the same views, but may have never communicated with or seen each other. yes, well, if you decipher the name, what is the nsvp, it is the national socialism of the belarusians, that's how they are they call themselves, but what lessons should the ukrainian special services learn from this case, how realistic is it to prevent similar crimes in the future. tracking people for their radical views, let's hear from an expert. actually, self-radicalization on
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the internet is a fairly widespread phenomenon, it happened in ukraine as well, it happened in almost any european country. it was in almost any country in europe. this is a large-scale phenomenon. such self-radicalization does not always reach offline actions. and even less possible, leads to real terrorist actions or political murders. but this happens, now, as far as i understand, they are studying the question of whether the suspect had any offline connections in dnipro, with possible supporters of the same ideas, but most likely, based on what i have read so far, it all happened via the internet, he was radicalized in his room in front of the computer, people who are radicalized on the internet are practically impossible to trace, because it is much easier to organize, the most common tactic of the special services. this is infiltration, when groups, organizations, there are infiltrated
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their informants, who leak information, ukrainians have been doing it since the 90s, if not since soviet times, this is a standard practice, very common, and of course, all these nationalist movements have always been filled with secret service employees, it is more difficult with the same ones, especially given the available technological opportunities, creating anonymous accounts, ip protection, if you use a vpn, is much more difficult, but the usual work remains, not even of special services, but of law enforcement officers. at the event there is some tracking of what people order online if someone falls under suspicion, there is individual surveillance of them, and attempts to infiltrate publics for monitoring, but with loners probably 90% of the time it is difficult to track, almost impossible, unless they make mistakes. if you are interested in learning more and... gather yourself in the situation, i highly recommend reading the article of my colleagues. iryna farion, a well-known linguist with
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radical views. my colleagues vitaly chervonenko and svyatoslav khumenko collected her most famous sayings and facts from her biography. shot in ukraine, who was iryna farion, who was killed in lviv? our website bbc.ua. defender languages ​​from lviv. this is how irina farion was called. also subscribe to our pages in social networks. not to miss the most important news, traditionally we are on facebook, instagram and tiktok, on youtube you can watch our news broadcast, if you sometimes missed it on the air, comment, share. well, that's all for today, more stories on our bbc.ua website, and we'll be back on the air on monday at 9 p.m. all the best.
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greetings, friends, the second part of the verdict program is on air on the tv channel, and traditionally, as it happens every friday, we have a journalistic club, and today we will talk about this in our journalism club. years of imprisonment, the alleged murderer of iryna farion in lviv was declared suspicious and a preventive measure is chosen, what is known about the possible motives of the crime? the world is on the threshold of the third world war. ukrainian generals zaluzhny and syrsky interpret putin's flawed logic for the west. how to prevent global conflict? peace initiatives of zelensky, johnson and trump. the world is looking for a way to appease putin, which of the proposed recipes may
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be more effective. about this. and about other things in the future for the next 45 minutes we will talk on our air, but before we start our conversation, i suggest you take part in our survey, dear friends, today we ask you about this, do you think the third world war is inevitable, yes, no, on youtube everything simple, either yes or no, if you have your own opinion, separate, please leave it under this video in the comments, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers, 800-211-381 , if you believe that a third world war is inevitable, and if if you don't think so, then 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce the guests of today's studio, this is yanina
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sokalova, journalist, tv presenter, social activist, blogger. yanina, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. congratulations, congratulations to sergey, congratulations to andriya, congratulations, and andriy yanitsky, journalist, you have already introduced andriy, andriy yanitsky, eh, today we will talk about many topics, many stories, we will discuss with you, well, as it traditionally happens in the journalism club, but let's start with this poll, because we ask our tv viewers and viewers, traditionally in the blitz format we ask our guests what they think about it, do you think the third world war is inevitable, please . the third world war is already going on in such a muted version, in which, it seems to me, the western world does not yet fully understand what depends on them, including its successful conclusion as winners, and not only on ukraine, which is somewhere alone
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is fighting, and not from israel, and from many other countries that are currently in... the stage of war with the totalitarian world, with the world of money, technology, equipment and the absence of democracy, the value of human life. many people say that now the war is existential, and it is, and valery zaluzhnyi, what a speech, for the first time, probably so big, you will talk about it, you will now talk about all the topics in blitka, so we will return to... we are already in it , we are already in it, okay, let's move on to zaluzhnyi and his quotes, but we are in it we are in, and how effectively it can develop or not develop into the direct participation of the countries that are currently in a conditional or direct coalition with us, we would also like to talk about them today and
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zaluzhny hinted at them, well , the scale of this war will depend on that, i... that it is already in the process, and i will tell our viewers that yanina sokolova has a very serious youtube channel, 1,120,000 subscribers, if you watch youtube channels, be sure to subscribe to yanina sokolova's youtube channel, andriy has more there is no such powerful youtube channel, let's hope that whatever happens, the small one will be just as powerful, andrei, what do you think? in regard to what zaluzhny says, that the third world war is not inevitable, but i absolutely agree with ms. yanina, the third world war is already underway, everything that is happening not only in ukraine, in syria, in israel, in other hotspots of the planet, these are all interconnected processes, and by and large it is a struggle between democratic regimes and
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autocratic regimes, which have united so far which is informal, but we... see, for example, how iran is helping russia, how china is secretly helping russia, how north korea is helping russia, and coalitions are already being formed, and a pro-democracy coalition is being formed around ukraine, there are many countries that have not yet have made up their minds, are wavering, trying to be neutral, but sooner or later they will have to make up their minds and take someone's side, i hope that democracy will win, democracy must win, it is absolutely obvious, yanina has already given... she gave her first speech in the status ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary to great britain, former commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, general zaluzhnyi, speaking in the audience. to a respectable audience, he said that russia's attack on ukraine could lead to the involvement of the world in the third world war, and
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society should be prepared for it, what the general said: first of all , soldiers should be avoided, but if the war does come, it is necessary to be ready for it. society must agree to temporarily give up a whole range of liberties for the sake of survival, modern wars, unfortunately, are total, they require the efforts of not only the army, but also society with... in general, well , obviously, yanina, zaluzhnyi spoke not only about ukrainian society, and since he was speaking before a foreign audience, it is obvious that it was addressed, including to the western audience, that until you realize that the war is near and it may already be in your hands, and until you react adequately, there is still a danger of the third world war unfolding, although i am with you completely weather that the third world war is already underway, and before us was the former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine volodymyr hryska on the air, he said that in general this war was started
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by putin back in 2007 with the munich conference, although it can be said that this war began with putin's coming to power in 2000 , that you say how hard-working, how persuasive he is to a british audience to an earthly audience, that is, a man with a lot of combat experience, probably no one has an extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador with such combat experience, and a person who just she almost went from the front to the status of a diplomat and now tells everyone about the dangers of war to the world. many people call britain an empire only because they do not love ... russians as much as russians love them, and a lot of russian propaganda says that britain's love for ukraine is simply the desire
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of every empire to have power over someone smaller, however, when i was in great britain, it was a month ago, i spoke with people who represent ukraine there in certain organizations, and human rights activists, and political analysts, so... i heard only one thing: great britain and respect for zaluzhnyi are caused by the strength that the ukrainian army and ukrainian society have shown in relation to such, in their opinion, the strongest military aggressor in the world, which is the russian federation. the fact that we were able to stop the aggressor and the fact that i am talking to you now, and kyiv is not occupied and many regions have been de-occupied. despite the fact that, believe me, no one in the west expected that this would happen, despite their sympathy, for them this is the great heroism of the ukrainian army, and the diligent, in their opinion,
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is the chieftain of this whole process, and they are so you must understand that when time magazine came out with the cover of the lunatic, i saw how my british friends bought this magazine, read his columns later, as an economist in many other publications, they understood that this is such a new force, a new general spirit and format that europe needs and the west needs and nato needs. that is why there have been rumors for a long time that zaluzhnyi could lead some, some point here from nato, the training of our soldiers within the framework of nato, well, in any formations in which this is possible, zaluzhnyi was named as the leader, why? because in the whole world that lives on issues of defense capability, zaluzhny is the leader of a new progressive army that is capable
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of confronting such an enemy as russia, so what zaluzhny said was under a lot of attention, in great britain, and i saw the posts themselves of the british on twitter and on facebook, where they talked about the fact that really... the western world should get out of its comfortable shell and move on to the issue of defense capability on such a bridgehead of a war that may start very soon, because the conclusions have not been drawn, and it is important , what zaluzhnyi spoke at the united institute of defense studies, this is the royal united institute in london, and those statements about the third world that he made, which later spread quite well, by the way, with... in connection, i mean the british come on, this is a story called, recover, at the beginning of that war, you must not only
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help us with ... weapons, but you can participate in it yourself, and maybe you will die, the tyrant always has a diplomatic uniform, wrap it all up , but the point is, i think the fact that he is there now is very, very important to us it will be important to implement in the form of defense enterprises that will be jointly with great britain, i know that there is progress, so his statements are, well, count the dividends. er from his activities here, which will then be equivalent to the defense projects we will have with the uk, it is very right that the office, i don't know if they have calculated it or not, but from what i know, the foreign office and the ambassadors consult before any speeches, they bet precisely on this point that zaluzhnyi will deal with the defense issue, the issue attracting, investing and encouraging the world from their comfortable latent life
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towards preparation. to the defense, maybe not of ukraine, but of their territories, so the statements were very correct, obviously, obviously, not only in kyiv they calculated what zaluzhny could do, i think that the british side also talked about what would be good , for zaluzhnyi to be the ambassador to great britain, because after all, the british are our great partners in this war, they help a lot, and they want to see and want to talk. with the representative of ukraine, who is understood in the war, that is, it is absolutely obvious, and it seems to me that this was one of such convincing arguments that zaluzhnyi got to great britain, but on the day when zaluzhnyi spoke to an audience in london, zelenskyi was there and it turned out in parallel an interview in the guardian, which was taken by luke harding from...
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this, from the guardian, he said that what, what, what he said in the interview, syrsky himself, he said that ukraine will do everything possible to achieve the internationally recognized borders of 1991, the de-occupation plan there is crimea, it is realistic, of course, this is a big military secret, we will do everything possible to reach the internationally recognized borders of 1991, we must win in order to free our citizens who are in the occupied territories, who are suffering, that's what mr. syrsky said , well, andrei, it is clear that there is a military command, i understand that he is a representative of the military command, because obviously he does not know about and about the army, and about what happened and is happening now in the army less
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syrian but we see how such a political-military, diplomatic elite has formed in ukraine, which explains to the world what the world perceives, and obviously, the world should listen to what zaluzhnyi and syrsky say, because in principle, these are probably two people who can tell about the war much more than anyone, and such an experience. participation in a large-scale war after the second world war, apparently there is no commander-in-chief, that is, 2 15 years of the great war and the 11th year of the russian invasion of the territory of ukraine, or zaluzhnyi and syrskyi are convincing, i am not talking about zelenskyi, because zelenskyi fulfills a slightly different mission, although it must be admitted that he is the only president who manages
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the state during a major invasion since the second world war and has this experience, well, it so happened that a man who was not prepared for politics became the president, and then a large-scale invasion began, and he now has the experience of managing a state during martial law and during war , andrei, are both serskyi and zaluzhnyi convincing for our partners, if so, then what can be the actions of our partners and what can they do to... so that the third world war does not come to europe. i think that despite all the efforts of our karmanychs, they are not convincing enough for the western world, because the western world is in fact in the same state that ukraine was in before february 22, when the whole world warned us.

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