carries out a slightly different mission, although he too, it must be admitted that he is the only president who leads the country during a major invasion since the second world war and has this experience, well, it so happened that a person who was not prepared for politics became the president, and then a large-scale invasion began, and he now has the experience of running a country under martial law and during war. andrii, are both sersky and zaluzhny convincing for... our partners, and if so, what might be the actions of our partners and what they can do to prevent the third world war from coming to europe. i think that despite all the efforts of our leaders, they are not convincing enough for the western world, because the western world is actually in the same state that ukraine was in until february 22, when the whole world warned us. in these

maps, all the world's media drew an attack, all the intelligence agencies of the world informed our leaders and, in fact, the ukrainian society that there would be an attack, but few people believed in it and there were many such reassuring speeches that we will grill barbecues in may, these are all such very pessimistic forecasts, everything is not so bad, it seems to me that the western world also lives in such a ... dream, where they think that they are under this umbrella of nato, i will not threaten them, russia will not dare to attack nato, and the maximum that can be, well , maybe we will have to spend a little more on the defense of ukraine, and they personally, but nothing is threatened, nothing is needed to do, and despite all efforts to convey that you know that there can be aggression and not in such a way direct form, there may be some hybrid

forms of aggression, we know how the russian special services are now trying to disrupt the olympics, there were detained agents, we know about other networks of russian agents who are trying to destabilize europe, but the western world does not see this, i have only hope that everything well, at least the western elites will see this negative signal and try to turn their societies through the mass media through ... the same bbc, guardian and other publications towards reality, because now the western societies live in such a sweet dream, about a peace that no longer exists. thank you andrii, and yanina, a question for you, because this week there was another column by our great friend boris johnson in the daily mail, and there was a lot of discussion about what kind of plan boris johnson announced and... and it

happened too , well, in fact, in these days, when zelenskyi was there, and zaluzhnyi was speaking, and sirsky’s interview was published, boris johnson made public his vision regarding the future of ukraine and the future, well, how should i say, russia’s victory, or semi-victory, because that , what he proposes, well, in principle, it includes a formula for some appeasement or pacification of putin, because he also talks about the fact that... should be in the big seven again, the big seven plus russia, that the russian language should somehow develop in ukraine in order to putin did not feel that he had lost, and there were some limits, not borders, the limits that were as of february 24, 2022, that they are, in principle , we can reach these limits, but before that, trump, as a presidential candidate the united states of america should give ukraine a lot of weapons for for ukraine to put putin before.

the fact that either he agrees to some, well , appeasement, or they can open lendlease, and that's what mike pompeo wrote today, the former secretary of state of the united states of america, what do you think about that? uh, actually, i was surprised when i read the text of this so-called peace agreement, surprised that it was boris johnson who was articulating with trump at all. why, because boris johnson played a significant role in the fact that the diplomatic role in the fact that we began to defend our land, i will not go into details, i think history will tell how everything really was in the first days of the war, this is not what we are talking about, but boris johnson, i think, and his diplomatic qualities, as a former one, including not only the prime minister, but also the minister of foreign affairs. dictate a certain level

of diplomacy, which in my opinion consists in the following formula, this is when you propose something that would like to hear your interlocutor. or what, in the opinion of the interlocutor, may look like a plan, well, then in the process of changes you come to your plan, this is how ukrainians often work diplomats this formula, they told me, but they are joking, here the story is more complicated, it is absolutely clear that donald trump is an ambiguous figure, and for ukrainians he was considered a pro-russian figure for the lion's share of the time, but you know... friends, the last two weeks, that , what i read and hear, in particular from the american publications, which draw after the meeting between johnson and trump, a new plan in view of the approach of trump, and in it there is absolutely no history with crimea and the east of our

country, which we somehow have to give to putin, and there are other plans, quite optimistic, which relate to the allocation. well, you have probably read the ones about ukraine becoming a partner of nato and its progressive european part, about the fact that europe should allocate more percent of its budget to maintain nato, and not america, well, that is, there are a lot of such options that will strengthen nato , and ukraine will become one of the components. of this whole story, why it will benefit the united states, because they, in exchange for many things related to the nato references, so to speak, with the concessions of america, in addition to the main position at the head of nato, they will also develop their issues,

energy goals, well, you can read about it in the wall street journal, literally a new article, it seems to have come out today, there they describe how all this will be. therefore, summing up the issue of johnson and trump, i repeat, i take this as a beginning, a diplomatic bow to start negotiations, but i remind you that despite our negative attitude to trump's words, i emphasize, to trump's words, this is the person who in 2017 was the first, it was the 17th year, the first lifted the moratorium on ukraine receiving weapons at all, and trump's javelins helped us. in the first days of a full-scale invasion to defend, in particular, kyiv region, from where i am speaking to you now, there are many devils around trump, he himself is an ambiguous figure, but his self-centeredness and desire to show the world who the united states is, this is not

charity for ukraine at all, you you should perceive this, it is exclusively from the position of not protecting democracy, this should not be perceived either, but from the position of strength and... the united states, which will show his teeth, and trump knows how to do it , unlike the democrats, so i would not be pessimistic at all and here are the seeds of plans for various peace agreements, which we have already seen three of them in the last month, i read, there are still some chinese options, there are still arabic ones the world's options that are emerging, i think that johnson's meeting should still be considered. trump as the beginning of a dialogue in which trump has a desire to end the war, and believe me, not on the terms of the russian federation, for some reason it seems to me that if suddenly it will happen that he will lead the states,

win the election, then it is possible, we can take this as a chance, at least there are arguments for this from the past, a cause-and-effect relationship, with regard to biden, i think, to all of you. what is the way, and about trump, there is a question, well, about kamala harris rather than trump, because well, put biden, biden's team and his strategy, i think kamala harris will also continue her sergey, i don't think we are something new we'll see, but by the way, by the way, after the conversation with zelenskyi, trump said about what they were talking about, he said that this is russia, that this is a military machine, they are always fighting, they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon, they are waging a war, i don't know, andrei, whether trump was convincing for zelensky, because when i heard trump say that they beat hitler, well, it looks a little funny, considering

that without the american league, probably neither the soviet union, nor great britain, nor all our allies in the anti-hitler coalition, probably never defeated hitler, or... would have defeated much more with blood and great sacrifices, well , no one would have defeated hitler without the ukrainians, because the main part of the hostilities in eastern europe took place on... ukrainian lands and a counteroffensive was then made by ukrainian forces. as for america and in general the influence of american ukrainian thought, the ukrainian narrative on american cities, it seems to me that it is extremely weak, both on democrats and republicans, and it is a big mistake of our government that it spoiled relations with the ukrainian diaspora, as with the old diaspora, with which there were not many contacts at all, as well as the new one. with people who left in recent years, and these are millions of ukrainians who can convey our

ideas, our interest to senators, to deputies in various democratic countries, these are electoral countries after all, there everything depends on public opinion, and if millions of ukrainians would come out in the squares of the main cities of western countries, they come out, but not as many as we would like, and... clearly uncoordinated actions, but rather the actions of activists who are of their own free will, due to the fact that they do not care about the future of ukraine, they go to such actions, i do not see any coordinated policy of the ukrainian state in this direction, no one works with the diaspora, and according to various calculations, well, the largest figure that i heard at the world congress of ukrainians estimates the number of ukrainians in the world different generations of the diaspora, waves of the diaspora already number 20 million, that is , in fact, almost as many as live

inside ukraine, there are already ukrainians living abroad, we could use this soft power to promote ukrainian interests primarily in america. thank you, andrei, i will remind our viewers that we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, today we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about the following: do you think the third world war is inevitable, yes no, on youtube in... quite simple, if you have a different opinion, a different opinion, you can leave it in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, take your smartphone or phone and vote with the corresponding numbers: 0800 211 381, if you think that the third world war is inevitable, if you don't think so, then 0800 211 382. one more topic, colleagues this week, actually this topic started exactly a week ago, when irina was killed in the city center... farion, today the galician district court of lviv chose

a preventive measure for the person detained on suspicion of murdering farion, arrest for 60 days without the right to bail, the day before he was informed of the suspicion under the article of intentional murder, which provides for seven to 15 years of imprisonment for the 18-year-old youth of the nuk detained in dnipro. law enforcement officers released a fragment of the video from the question. to the suspect in the murder of iryna farion, let's listen to what the young man was asked and what he answered, and you committed some kind of murder, it will be seen that you are guilty of it, let's see how you would explain your actions at the moment when you committed the murder? the next question, well, this is

the story, this 18-year-old youth is a suspect in the murder of iryna farion, now the court and the investigators have to prove whether the prosecutors have to prove that he was involved in this murder, or committed the murder, it is known that the gun itself, with who was shot, the law enforcement officers did not find, and... they have already arrested this suspect as far as the dnipro. yanina, you spoke with iryna farion, and after that there was a very big story about what events developed further. here are our tv viewers sitting on youtube talking about what they are asking, have you thought about it in any way. about this interview and the consequences of this interview, i am not saying that the murder of iryna farion is a consequence of your

interview, but our viewers link all these events, say that they are in some kind of chain , how do you look at this whole story and especially with this suspect, doesn't this story remind you of the previous story about the murder of the journalist sheremet and... in approximately the same pattern, when all the leaders came out, they said that we had found the suspects of the murder, put them in the butchery, but who ordered the murder? pavel sheremet is unknown, but it is known that the rifmaster, yuliya kuzmenko, and dugar were imprisoned there, yana dugar was also under investigation, well, unlike the case of shremet, in this case there are already better quality photos and video materials, and more

a few cameras, and the cameras are not black and white, there are also color ones. with those involved, the suspects, er, the murder of iryna farion is an act of terror, and despite all the arguments that were heard in society and in conversations with iryna farion, and we can be dissatisfied with each other, each other, say what we think with one issue or another, we may or may not like someone's position, but murder. person, it is an act of terror, for which the murderer must suffer a just, cruel punishment. now, do i relate this to the interview we had, let me remind you, in 2023. iryna farion was a person who defended the language, in the format in

which she considered it, you are worth it in a radical format, with her own style, which some loved, some did not, some condemned. when we had a conversation with her, and we had more than one conversation with her, and between conversations we even corresponded about certain events in the state, and we were like-minded on many issues, i cannot predict. how a person will answer this or that question, especially if it concerns the topic of the language of the military, these are holy people for me, so conversations about what then i allegedly provoked something in parion, no, i was conducting my usual conversation as a journalist, discussing uncomfortable topics, that’s why we do our broadcasts, not just to talk, well

, iryna answered the way she answered, and part of the mass media ee ... it was disturbed, it was not our announcement, it was a piece cut out and reproduced further on the networks, and it even resulted in the case of the security service of ukraine, regarding ms. iryna and regarding us, as manufacturers of the product where these theses were voiced, let me remind you , that the case is still ongoing, v what our product, and its team and iryna farion, appear as people who... these theses should be heard by ukrainians, irina farion is not here, but i think that a huge layer of her youtube products, which were related to language, history, i hope that it will be valuable for people, i'm very sorry that this happened, i believe that the guilty should be severely punished,

was it this guy, well, i'm not a court and... and an investigator in this case, however, i want to know my opinion , external, of course, each of us sees that it is similar, and find such a person the intricacies of fate, when a person finds himself at the scene of a crime and before that he was there and was very similar to himself and himself from the dnipro and in lviv, well, it is clear that the cause-and-effect relationship gives us suspicions that it is so, that is why her words of sympathy to the family of iryna farion, her daughter saw her in court today. her mother asked the alleged murderer, and i see the condition of her relatives, this is a very, very big tragedy that should not happen in our country, and it will not happen unless the russian federation and their henchmen on social media,

spreading theses, spreading the conversation in the comments, and all this is happening right now, every day, that is... every day, millions of dollars are spent on inciting hostility on social networks, so be careful and do not get carried away by all this, keep a cool head and remember that we have only one enemy, and it is the russian federation, not our differences of opinion on this or that issue, including language, well, these are my thoughts on this matter, thank you yanina, minister of internal affairs affairs. ihor klymenko said that the suspect in the murder of farion is looking for information on other politicians and was probably preparing the next possible action. let's listen to what klymenko said. and pay attention, 21.07 is the day when he left lviv two days, one and a half days after committing the murder, that is, he has already, this is his

psychological portrait, he has already moved away from what he did and was already preparing the next one, perhaps was preparing the next action, well , this fragment did not enter here, where he says that maksym buzhanskyi could have been there, because he googled it somewhere. tried to find out who max is buzhansky, but in this case, andriyu, the minister of foreign internal affairs, forgive me, says that a day and a half after the murder was committed, as a fait accompli, that is, the investigation has not yet been completed, there has not yet been a trial, and the minister of internal affairs says, that he was already preparing the next possible action a day and a half after the murder, nothing has been proven, i.e. some records, some kgb statutes in the computer or something, some methods, some photocopies, and yesterday we

observed according to the photo of this the suspect appeared in the mass media, which could not have happened even without the ministry of internal affairs, as far as this corresponds to the practice and... norms of journalistic ethics in this situation, because even yesterday someone wrote that this is a murderer already, and not the suspect, as far as the journalists handled it correctly and in a timely manner, well , i would also like to start with condolences to the relatives of the murdered, terror is not the methods used by ukrainians, it is very similar to the methods used by the russians, we know about political murders. of russia, and it is clearly theirs style, what they do, it is possible by the hands of some mercenaries or people whom they were able to brainwash with propaganda, well, that's

another story. regarding the actions of the ukrainian law enforcement officers, who apparently simply leaked information to journalists about the alleged murderer, well, this is not correct, unfortunately, this practice exists, we have already seen many times when... they blur their faces in such a way that it is very easy to guess , who is obscured under this face, or when the materials of investigative actions are even merged into the leading media, and such leading media appear as if from investigations, but we understand that this is not exactly a journalistic investigation, all this information about wiretaps and about various video surveillance cameras, it was leaked by law enforcement agencies, we have such... power in law enforcement agencies, they strengthen their position so much for to create a correct public opinion. it is not correct to call this guy, even if he

really turns out to be a murderer, at this stage until the court's decision, it is not correct to call him a murderer, it is correct to call him a suspect after serving him the suspicion. well, and about the probable next target, i wanted to say about buzhansky, well, i did n’t read a lot on the internet... the understanding of people, how they are related, forion, buzhansky, as if they are completely opposite, from political views, people, how can they be the target of a killer, in my opinion , everything is very logical if your goal is to shake ukrainian society, and for that you need to radicalize people, divide them, and just murders from one end of the political spectrum, alone. figures and the assassination of another figure from the other end of the political spectrum can contribute this division and radicalization can cause such

a social explosion inside the country, i think that this is what benefits russia, and no matter whose hands this murder was committed, russian interests are behind it. thank you, andrei, yenin, the very end, very briefly, we have one minute left on the air, i would like to ... ask you, what do you think, whether this case of the investigation of the murder of irina farion will not happen like other political murders , there were a lot of them in 30 years, you can also list vadym boyko, and georgy ganaadze, and vyacheslav chornovol, there were many of these murders, as a rule, some executors were responsible, and sometimes they were not, but we never put the customers on the dock... well, given that we have now there is a person involved in the case, regarding whom there is a lot of evidence, in order to... get closer to

the suspicion, i think that behind him there is probably a trail, some kind, or there is none, which will let us understand whether to answer to serhiy, whether you say yes or not, to the question of whether this will be case number two regarding shremet, i will remind you that it ended in nothing, nothing, that is, everyone who they suspected and loudly announced at press conferences, well, given the lack of evidence base, they are now at large and are not criminals, but rather military volunteers. doctors continue to protect the country, will this be story number two like sheremet? let's see, i hope not, serhiy. thank you, yanina. yanina sokolova, andriy yanitskyi were guests of our program today. i thank my colleagues for participating in the program. let me remind you that throughout our broadcast we conducted a survey, we asked you about the following: do you think the third world war inevitable what do our tv viewers think? 60% yes, 40% no. on this, friends, i put

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