in military terms, so it is clear here, but can the same ambassador in china change anything today? well, believe me, i don’t think so, and if, well, to understand the truth, who would not be sent there now, or would they replace him with someone else, if the chinese have the ideological attitude that we help russia leadership, then he would have hopaka danced there, that... he would have sung chinese songs, nothing would have happened, because it determines the position of the state, it is another matter that it is really beneficial for us to have with china economic relations, he takes everything that ukraine can give, and this is also an important point, but it is also necessary, well, it seems to me, to be furnished with certain conditions, if we recognize that china is a single territory... including

taiwan , well, please, then you should at least take some steps to demonstrate reciprocity, well, diplomacy is primarily reciprocity, or then we need, as some of our politicians say, both and and both the present and the past, so then revise this position if china recognizes that territorial integrity is already within the framework of the russian constitution, i.e. with our illegally occupied territories, well , then... we should worry about taiwan, then, like the european union, many countries should have their representations there, have their trade offices there missions, working with them, taiwan is serious, taiwan is the first country in the world that produces, so here you just have to see, on the other hand, for example, slovakia and hungary, well, oil was blocked and topics for conversations how so, you to us

are you spoiling our sweet life? well, that’s great, let’s think so that you don’t spoil our unsweet life for us, then let’s think that we will also go to some certain exchanges, but it can’t be otherwise, until you step on a corn, no one on will not pay attention to you, especially since the chinese callus is still aimed at europe, and the same orban was obviously driving obviously. to discuss the chineseization of europe, i understand, or am i wrong, that is , the chinese are looking for partners in europe, countries that through which they will enter the european market, that is, obviously it will be slovakia, obviously it will be hungary, well, and partly they are considering belarus, serbia, belarus, that is, countries that will allow them to make such an expansion of the chinese so... you see that , what has now gone to the press,

that orbán there asked chinese banks for a billion dollar loan, this is the promotion of chinese interests through such things, china is actually tying this little hungary to itself, and that's it, and then whoever was there in the prime minister's chair, if you're up for it loans for a billion, well, you force them to return, and this means that china is going this way and quite successfully. sets his own beacons, well, he did the same thing in africa, many african countries will simply go bankrupt without china's financial assistance, that's the spread, first of economic, and then of political influence. another important topic, mr. volodymyr, this week is the author's column of the former prime minister of great britain boris johnson in the daily mail, after meeting with trump and seeing johnson. is it

possible a joint vision of johnson and trump, well rather, probably johnson, which he presented to trump as a candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, and there are a lot of contradictory points of what boris johnson writes about, well , let's say this, boris johnson is a great friend of ukraine, he has done a lot and we him thank you, but there are points about these borders, well , he wasn’t talking about borders, but about state borders for 20 and 24. also that putin can return to the big eight, that is, without russia - it’s the big seven, the seven plus russia, and that’s how you judge, this is the game of boris johnson himself, or is it donald trump's game is just voiced by johnson now, well, i think of two points here, mr. serhiu. well, you know, in any

negotiations you have to show a potential partner the stick, but at the same time show the carrot, well, what kind. may encourage him to at least start talking, and then we'll see. for some reason, it seems to me that boris johnson, who is credited, we still do not fully know, the fact that he stopped the capitulation in istanbul, then he should be offered to ukraine that a mile, let's give up what was as of february 24, 22 -th year, well, well, it's just illogical, nizak. point of view, the russian language is even more so, well, that is, it seems to me, or it is just such a throw-in, and the fact that, well, the ukrainians will not agree to this, but maybe the idea is that they say, let's try it in this is a way to drag russia into negotiations, and then

we will see what will come out of it, especially since britain is now the most powerful partner that provides weapons, that actually helps... demilitarize crimea, the loss of crimea, we have already talked about it more than once, this is the beginning bad processes for putin further, that is , such an option is possible, but you know, mr. serhiy, i think that, well, now there is another column by pompeo, ex- secretary of state, another plan, trump is already there, destroying putin to zero, everything is already on the way to lindley for 500 billion, well, that is , another option, that is, you know, it can all be a game, that is, look, here one powerful friend of ukraine says: well, look, we will do this, well, russia is silent so far, well , shut up, okay, then that means the second option, and now we'll give you something so that you're cold, here the whip is pulled out, then there was, then there was, then

there was a carrot, here is a whip, and here we go, but you know, it's all bad, actually, why is it bad, because we're always waiting for some kind of plan from someone. well, the question is in the task, and we are so weak that we cannot formulate our plan, well, they will say everything like this, no, there is, there is a zelenskyi peace formula, well, three points have been passed, seven are left, well, mr. sergey, it’s not even a matter in this, this is a formula, this is an idea, this is a thesis, and it is correct, that is, who will say something against the thesis about territorial integrity, yes, it is absolutely logical, but let's just decipher it. and let's write what the restoration of territorial integrity means, well, it's simple, again, like a 90° angle, that is, for this you need to receive appropriate military assistance, for this you need to receive appropriate financial assistance, for this you need to strengthen sanctions on russia, for this it is necessary for ukraine

to start the production of its weapons in a powerful way and so on, for this we need to have the appropriate force, yes... manpower that can use all this in order to get a victory and say, we have these factors, after a certain number of days we get a completely different situation in crimea, and then in the south, and then in the east, and so on. you remember, the republicans kept saying what we spend 60 billion on, where is the plan, well , finally we can sit down to write our plan, which will not be presented simply as a plan. of ukraine, and as a plan for the west's victory over russia, they are really beginning to understand that this is the greatest evil. look in the washington document of the nato summit, russia is the first enemy, on the previous one was china. so, they already understand that china is needed here, let it be,

then we'll see, today is russia. so let's unite and create from this a non -ukrainian plan for ukrainian victory, a joint western-ukrainian plan. so to speak, of joint victory over the enemy, the fact is that the task is insurmountable, and we do not have people who can write what is needed, well, perhaps president zelensky claims that he should have his personal plan, that is, development , mr. serhiu, this is the development of his ideas, this is not a denial of what is in place there will be some other such plan, no, we simply take these theses, which are key for us, and write them down and make it so that it is clear to everyone and... in ukraine and abroad, then the republicans will say, yes, let's fix this one here point, let's, here let's change this one, let's, and then we have a joint plan, you understand, and then we, and then we tell everyone, guys, no, you don't ask us such, don't ask us such questions, it's our joint plan to defeat

the enemy, you already mentioned mike pompeo, i will still quote to our viewers that he wrote for the wall street journal newspaper, he said that if he wins the presidential ... election, trump will introduce a $500 billion land list for ukraine and remove the restrictions on weapons that pompeo writes. this is what a successful plan for ukraine might look like. introduce real sanctions against. russia, strengthen american defense, revive the nato organization, create a program for ukraine in the amount of 500 billion dollars. ukraine can also be accepted into nato and the eu. according to pompeo, it is beneficial for america, because then europe will assume more obligations regarding the security of ukraine. and we have the synchronicity of donald trump, the candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, who announced on fox news that he had a conversation with president zelensky. said, therefore, about the need to end the war, let's listen to what trump said.

president zelenskyy called me and we had a good talk, i said that we need to end this war, there is a military machine in front of you, they are constantly fighting, they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon, they are waging war, well, it seems to me that trump is not accurate enough in the fact that... who defeated hitler, of course, of course, it cannot be attributed only to stalin, there to the soviet union, after all, it was a collective victory , the more so on russia, the more on russia, because you asked, he is more likely to write about lendlis, and if it were not for buluz during the second world war, with what the soviet union would have beaten the same hitler, that's all, well, let's leave it at that trump, he's an eccentric, he's a person who's... so emotional about something says, perhaps it is not quite accurate, but the thesis is correct, that is, he actually says

that russia, this putin's russia , must be finished, because it is the greatest threat to everyone, and again, you and i once said that we do not study the psychotype of politicians, trump is a businessman, and here he says the same thing, if we take ukraine into nato and the european union, then it is a matter of ensuring security. will be placed more on the europeans, and we will pay less, that's what i say all the time, you just have to understand with whom you have a business, prepare for these negotiations very seriously and offer those arguments that will be understandable to the partner and that will give him a benefit, but you remember somewhere in some other plan, and this is boris johnson, it was said that the americans could be there replaced in europe by... yes, it’s really

not tens, it’s hundreds of billions of dollars, so if trump counts every penny, says: i don’t want to spend on something that we don’t need, well, yes, well, in the end, and why not, and why not help him as needed to rearm all of europe, well, look, there is a queue for... not for the f-16 in europe, there are queues for the f-35, air defense systems, and at the same time there are, well, only zelensky says we need 125 of these, patriots , how many of them are needed in europe, and it 's not 125, it's 500, maybe 25, and each of them costs 1 billion 200 million dollars. that is, if you look at what it can give to the american economy, the economy, then,

believe me, i think you don't even have to be trump to understand that it is beneficial. so here's what i'm leading to, we need when we formulate our goals, very clearly and clearly understand with whom and what we are talking about. we understand what to talk about with trump, you understand what to talk about with trump, and what to talk about with kamalo and garis, because in the current situation, well, it works. in such a way that sometime after the debate between biden and trump it was clear that trump has better opportunities to win the presidential campaign in 2024, here biden does not go to the elections and takes probably the most unexpected step, probably not only for the world, but for himself, because kamala harris, she is 19 years younger than donald trump. and all this rhetoric that was prepared by trump for biden, that he, they say,

almost has dementia, that he forgets, that he cannot lead the state, it just simply falls apart, and obviously, well, sociology will probably show that in august, what are the prospects for kamala harris, will there be a significant change in the politics of the united states of america if kamala harris becomes president... you know what i would talk to her about, but i can only think of one thing, about the fact that it is necessary to put an end to the indecision of the democrats in matters of security. because if she continues this line of obama, biden and so on, then we will again wait for six months for a decision on this or that supply of weapons and so on, but this pseudo-pacifist line of the democrats really needs to be finished, and if the matter

moved to practical negotiations , then i think that we need to convince her that... such a line will not be a winning one for her, but a losing one, and the fact that she has good chances now, well, as they say, that does not speak for itself only lazy, because she is a woman, she is black, she is a prosecutor, she has, so to speak, every chance to show that she offers a fair america against the background of the fact that, well, trump is now on a stretch. indeed he, he is accused in no less than four cases, and she is the prosecutor, the prosecutor, and here she is saying: who will you vote for, for me, as a representative of law, justice and order, or for a person, against in which four cases are currently being conducted and it is not known how they will end, and there is also a sexual one

harassment, that is, all these sexual things and the like, then you want the... the president to be someone who will attack women and the like and so on, humiliate them and everything else, then here, you know, well that's it the matter of technology, i think there are many people who can tell it what to do, it is our business not to interfere in these processes and so on, but it really has a good chance to turn the situation in its favor. at the very end of our program, mr. volodymyr, i would like to ask you about... the statement of the minister of defense of poland , władysław kosyniak kamys, that ukraine's accession to the eu depends on the resolution of historical issues, and he told polsa news about this that he said, in my opinion, real politics should issue an ultimatum, without the resolution of the volyn issue, there will be no accession

of ukraine to the european union, that's what it means, that is, we have to apologize to them and have already apologized many times and stood on our knees in front of these monuments to the victims of these historical events, but they are not in front of us must be re-examined, well, this re-examination is historical, it will just be long, well, you know, this is only evidence in my opinion that in the polish political system , the problems of the past are real. well, i would ask a simple question: why did the volyn tragedy happen? and on which territory is the most important thing, and why should ukraine apologize, well, it’s so simple to look at, you know, the historical duration of all these processes that took place on ukrainian lands, why they took place, to remember the role of russia, which was in volyn actually at the beginning of the 20th century

actually formed the russian world, and why, let's say, the same... volyn peasants met the bolsheviks with bread, salt, and the like, and how they prepared them for the fact that the poles were enemies and the like, there are a lot of problems , but it seems to me that during the time, by the way, of kuchma and yushchenko, well, we found ways to communicate normally, and our presidents went there, as you say, stood on their knees, i saw it with my own eyes, everyone came here, did the same thing, and we gave... society completely different signals that there were tragedies, no one was surprised by this can now say that they were not, we define, we apologize and ask for forgiveness, this formula, which is really relevant today, although it was born many, many years ago, there is no other option, if we will hear such statements, then that would mean we'd just

keep coming up against a wall, beyond which it's just... a dead end, because no one will ever prove that he wasn't the first. well , yes, well, we also have neighbors, poles, hungarians, and everyone will say that you cannot go to the european union, you must apologize, you must the hungarian language should be given more in transcarpathia, that is, we will always have claims from other neighbors, that is, the fact that we should take a clear position here seems to me, well, now it is good, in order to start negotiations, we had to take some definite ones.. . verbal concessions to the hungarians, but i do not think that this is the moment that should determine the basis of our bilateral relations. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation, friends, it was volodymyrko. diplomat, politician, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-9. let me remind you that throughout our broadcast we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you whether you think the third world war

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please janina. the third world war is already going on in such a muted version, in which, it seems to me, the western world does not yet fully understand what depends on them, including its successful conclusion as winners, and not only on ukraine, which somewhere is fighting alone and not from israel, and from many other countries that are currently at war with... with the totalitarian world, with the world of money, technology, technique and the absence, democracy, value of human life. many who says that now the war is existential, it is, and valery zaluzhnyi, what a speech, for the first time, probably such a big speech, now we will talk about it, you will now talk about all the topics in blitz, so we will return to

zaluzhnyi, we are already in her we are already in it, okay, let’s move on to zaluzhnyi and his quotes, but we are in it, and how effectively it may or may not develop into the direct participation of the countries that are now in a conditional or direct coalition with us, about those too today i would like to talk about them, too they were tricked by zaluzhnyi, well , the scale of this war will depend on that, i believe that it is... already in progress, and i will tell our viewers that yanina sokolova has a very serious youtube channel, 1,120,000 subscribers, if you watch youtube channels, be sure to subscribe to yanina sokolova's youtube channel, andriy does not yet have such a powerful youtube channel, let's hope that whatever happens, the small one will be just as powerful. andrei, what, what do you think about her? of what

the industrious one says, that is what the third world war is inevitable i absolutely agree with ms. yanina. the third world war is already underway, everything that is happening not only in ukraine, in syria, in israel, in other hot spots of the planet, these are all interconnected processes, and by and large it is a struggle between democratic regimes and autocratic regimes that have united, informally so far, but we see, for example, how iran is helping. russia, like china secretly helps russia, like north korea helps russia, and coalitions are already being formed, well, such a coalition is being formed around ukraine pro-democracy, there are many countries that have not yet decided, are wavering, trying to be neutral, but sooner or later they will have to decide and take someone's side. i hope that democracy will win. democracy must win, and that is absolutely obvious. yanina already

mentioned the first speech in... in the status of extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador to great britain of the former head of the armed forces of ukraine, general zaluzhnyi, speaking in front of a respectable audience, he said that russia's attack on ukraine could be is a prelude to the involvement of the world in the third world war, and society must be prepared for it, the general said. first of all, it is necessary to avoid warriors, but if war does come, it is necessary to be ready for it. society must agree to temporarily give up a whole series of freedoms, freedoms, for the sake of survival modern warfare, unfortunately total, they require efforts, not only of the army, but also of society in general. well, obviously, yanina, zaluzhnyi spoke not only for the ukrainian society, but also because he spoke before foreign audience, obviously it was addressed in...