democracy must win, and that is absolutely obvious. yanina has already mentioned the first speech in the status of extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador to great britain by the former head of the armed forces of ukraine, general zaluzhny. speaking in front of a respectable audience, he said that russia's attack on ukraine could lead to the involvement of the world in the third world war, and society should be prepared for it. what the general said: first of all, the soldiers must be avoided, but if the war does come, it is necessary to be ready it is ready. society must agree to temporarily give up a number of freedoms, liberties, for the sake of survival of modern war, unfortunately total, they require efforts not only of the army, but of society in general. well, obviously, yanina, zaluzhnyi did not only speak pro-ukrainian society, and since he spoke before a foreign audience, it was obviously addressed. including

to the western audience that until you realize that the war is near and it may already be in your hands, and until you react adequately, there is still a danger of the deployment of the third world war, although i completely agree with you that the third world war is already underway, and we had the former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine volodymyr hryska on the air, he said that this war had already started. putin back in 2007 from the munich conference, although it can be said that this war began with putin's coming to power in 2000 . what do you say about how hard-working, how convincing he is for a british audience, for a foreign audience, that is, a man with a lot of combat experience, i guess there is not a single extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador with such combat experience and a person who just almost... at the front changed to the status

of a diplomat and now tells everyone about the dangers of war to the world? many people call britain an empire only because they don't like the russians as much as the russians love them, and a lot of russian propaganda says that britain's love for ukraine is the sole desire of each and... empire to have power over someone smaller, however, when i was in great britain, it was a month ago, i spoke with people who represent ukraine there in certain organizations, and rights activists, and political analysts, i heard only one thing: great britain and respect for zaluzhny were caused by the strength that the ukrainian army and ukrainian society showed in the war. to

such, in their opinion, the strongest military aggressor in the world, which is the russian federation, the fact that we were able to stop the aggressor, and the fact that i am talking to you now, and kyiv is not occupied and many regions have been de-occupied, despite what you believe , no one in the west expected that this would happen, despite sympathy, for them this is the great heroism of the ukrainian army, and for... in their opinion, this is the chieftain of this whole process, and they treat him that way, you must understand that when the time publication came out with the cover of the zaluzhny, i saw as my british friends buy this publication, then read its columns, in zaikonomist in many other publications, they understood that this is such a new force, a new general spirit and format that europe needs and... it needs from the west and

nato needs, so there were rumors for a long time, that zaluzhny could lead some point here from nato, the training of our soldiers within the framework of nato, well, in any formations in which it is possible, zaluzhny was named as the leader, why? because in the whole world, which lives on the issues of defense capability, the stalwart is the leader of a new progressive army that is capable of resisting. such an enemy as russia. therefore, what zaluzhnyi said would be under a lot of attention in great britain, and i saw the posts of the british themselves on twitter and on facebook, where they talked about what is really western the world should get out of its comfortable shell and move on to the issue of defense capability on such a bridgehead of war, which may... start very soon, because

the conclusions have not been drawn, and it is important that zaluzhnye spoke at the united institute of defense research, this is such a london royal united institute. and those statements about the third world war that he made, which then spread quite a bit, by the way, sergei in zmi, i mean the british zmi, this is a story called, recover, you are at the beginning of a war where you will not only to help us with weapons, or you can take part in it yourself, and maybe you will die, the good man always has a diplomatic form to wrap all this up, but the meaning is this: i think that what he is there now, it will be very, very important for us to implement in in the form of defense enterprises that will be jointly with great britain, i know that there is work to be done, so his statements are, well, count the dividends from his activities

here, which will then be equivalent to the defense projects that we will have with great britain, it is very right that the office , no i don't know if they calculated it or not, but in hindsight. as far as i know, the ministry of foreign affairs and the ambassadors are consulting before any speeches, they have made a bet on this very point that luzhuzhen will deal with the defense issue, the issue of attracting investments and rousing the world from their comfortable latent life in the direction of preparing for defense, possible not of ukraine, but of their territories, so the statements were corrective, obviously, obviously, not only. in kyiv , they calculated what zaluzhny could do, i think that the british side also spoke about the fact that it would be good if zaluzhnyi was ambassador to great britain, because after all , the british are our great partners in this war, they help a lot, and they want to see and talk to

a representative of ukraine who understands the war , that is, it is absolutely obvious, and it seems to me that this was one of the most convincing arguments for zaluzhnyi to get... to great britain, but on the day zaluzhnyi spoke to an audience in london, zelensky was there, and in parallel an interview appeared in the guardian, which, which luke garding took from this, from the guardian, he said about what, uh, what, what, what he said in an interview, uh, ... sirsky himself. he said that ukraine will do everything possible to reach the internationally recognized borders of 1991. there is a plan for deoccupation of crimea. it is realistic. of course, this is a great military secret. we will do our best to reach

the internationally recognized borders of 91. we must win to free our citizens who are in the occupied territories and are suffering. this is what mr. syrskyi said. well, andrew. here it is clear that there is military command, i understand that he is a representative of the military command, because it is obvious that he knows as much about the army as about what happened and is happening now in the army, but we can see how in such a political-military diplomatic elite has formed in ukraine, which explains to the world, which... which the world perceives, and obviously, the world should listen to what zaluzhnyi and syrsky say, because in principle, these are probably two people, who can tell about the war much more than anyone, and

probably no commander-in-chief has such experience of participating in a large-scale war after the second world war, that is, 2.5 years of the great war and the 11th year of the russian one. invasion of the territory of ukraine, whether zaluzhnyi and syrskyi are convincing, i am not talking about zelenskyi, because zelenskyi performs a slightly different mission, although he too must admit that he is the only president who leads the state during a major invasion since the second world war and has this experience, well , it turned out that a person was not prepared for politics, became the president, and then began a large-scale invasion, and he has... now the experience of running a country during martial law and during war, andrew, is that convincing, and syrian and beneficial to our partners, and if so, what might the actions of our partners be, and what, what they can do so that the third world

war does not come to europe. i think that despite all the efforts of our kermanychi, they are not convincing enough for the western world. because the western world is in fact in the same state in which ukraine was until february 22, when we the whole world warned, drew in this. maps of the offensive in all the world's media, all the intelligence agencies of the world informed our leaders and, in fact, the ukrainian society that there would be an attack, but few people believed in it and there were a lot of such reassuring speeches that we would grill barbecues in may, this all such very pessimistic forecasts, everything is not so bad, it seems to me that the western world is also living in such a dream. eh, where do they think that they are under this nato umbrella, nothing threatens them, russia is not new,

will not dare to attack nato, and the maximum that can be, well, maybe they will have to spend a little more on the defense of ukraine, and they personally, but nothing is in danger, nothing needs to be done, and despite all efforts to convey that, and you know that there can be aggression and not in such a direct form, there can be some. forms of aggression, we know how the special services of russia are trying to disrupt the olympics now, there were detained agents, we know about other networks of russian agents who are trying to destabilize europe, but the western world does not see this, i have the only hope that after all, at least the western elites will see this negative signal and try to turn their societies through the mass media, through the same bbc, other publications, towards reality, because now

western societies are living in such a sweet dream of peace, which already there is no thank you, andrew, and yanina, a question for you because this week there was another column by our great friend boris johnson in the daily mail, and there was a lot of discussion about what kind of plan boris johnson had announced, and that happened. these days, when zelenskyi was there, and zaluzhnyi was speaking, and syrskyi's interview was published, boris johnson made public his vision regarding the future of ukraine and the future, well, how should i say, russia's victory, or semi-victory, because the fact that he offers, well, in principle, it is included in the formula of some appeasement or pacification of putin, because he also says that russia should be in a big shadow again. russia, that the russian language should somehow develop in ukraine so

that putin does not feel that he has lost, and some limits, not borders, limits that were as of february 24, 2022, that in principle we can reach these limits, but before that, trump, as a candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, should give ukraine a lot of weapons in order for ukraine to confront putin with the fact that or he will agree. for some, well, appeasement, or they can open lendlease, and that's what mike pompeo wrote today, the former secretary of state of the united states of america, what do you think about that? in fact, i was surprised when i read the text of this so-called peace agreement, i am surprised that it was boris johnson who articulated with trump at all, why, because boris... johnson played a considerable role in the fact that the diplomatic role in the fact that we began

to protect our land, i will not go into details, i think history will tell how everything really was in the first days of the war, this is not what we are talking about, but boris johnson, i think, and his diplomatic qualities, as a former, including not only the prime minister, but also the minister of foreign affairs, dictate a certain. .. the level of diplomacy, which in my opinion consists in the following formula, is when you offer a something that your interlocutor would like to hear, or something that, in the opinion of the interlocutor, might look like a plan, well, then in the process of change you come up with your plan, this is how ukrainian diplomats often work, they told me this formula, but jokes on jokes, here is the story more complicated, it is absolutely clear that donald trump is an ambiguous figure, and for ukrainians he was considered

a pro-russian figure for the lion's share of the time, however, you know, friends, the last two weeks, what i read and hear, in particular from american publications, which paint after meetings between johnson and trump, a new plan in view of the approach of trump, and it has absolutely no history with... crimea and the east of our country, which for some reason we have to give to putin, and there are other plans, quite optimistic, which concern the allocation of funds, lendlease. for 500 billion, well, you have probably read about the fact that ukraine will become a partner of nato and its progressive european part, about the fact that europe should allocate more percent from its budget to maintain nato, and not america, well, that is, there are a lot of such options , which will strengthen nato, and ukraine

will become one of the components of this whole story. why it will be beneficial for the united states, because in exchange for many things related to nato, so to speak, references, concessions of america, in addition to the main position at the head of nato, they will also develop their issues, energy goals, well, about that you can read the wall street journal, literally a new article, it seems to have come out today, there they describe how all this will be, so summing up the question. johnson and trump, i repeat, i take this as a beginning, diplomatic bow to start negotiations, but i will remind you that despite our negative attitude to trump's words, i emphasize, to trump's words, this is the person who in 2017, the first, this, it was the 17th year, the first lifted the moratorium on ukraine

getting weapons at all, and trump's zhivilins helped us in the first days of full power. invasion to protect kyiv region in particular, from where i am speaking to you now, there are many devils around trump, he himself is an ambiguous figure, but his egocentrism and desire to show the world who the united states are states, this is not charity for ukraine at all, you should perceive it, it is exclusively from the position of not protecting democracy, this should not be perceived either, but from the position of strength and the united states, which... and will show their teeth and trump knows how to do it in contrast from the democrats, so i would not be pessimistic at all about the seeds of plans for various peace agreements, of which we have already seen three in the last month, i read, there are still some chinese options, there are still options from the arab world that are emerging i

think it's still worth considering the meeting between johnson and trump as the beginning of a dialogue in which trump has a desire to end the war, and believe me, not on the terms of the russian federation, for some reason it seems to me that if it suddenly happens that he leads the states, wins the election, then maybe we can also take it as a chance, at least there are arguments for this from the past, a cause and effect relationship, for biden, i think you all understand what it is ... the way, and for trump, there is a question here, well, for kamala harris rather , rather than trump, because to put biden, biden's team and his strategy, i i think kamala harris will also continue her sergey, i don't think we will see anything new, but by the way, by the way, after the conversation with zelensky, trump said that he,

what they talked about, he said that it russia, that it is a military machine, they are constantly fighting, they are over... hitler, they defeated napoleon, they are waging war, i don't know, andriy, whether trump was convincing for zelensky, because when i listened to what trump said, that they beat hitler, well it looks a little so funny, considering that without the american league, probably not the soviet union, nor great britain, nor all of our allies in the anti-hitler coalition, probably would never have defeated hitler, or would have defeated much more. blood and great sacrifices, well, without the ukrainians , no one would have defeated hitler, because the main part of the hostilities in eastern europe took place on ukrainian lands, and then a counteroffensive was made by ukrainian forces, which concerns america and the influence of american ukrainian thought, ukrainian narrative on american cities,

it seems to me that it is extremely weak, as on democrats as well as on republicans, and this is... a big mistake of our government, that it spoiled relations with the ukrainian diaspora, both with the old diaspora, with which there were not many contacts at all, and with the new diaspora, with people who have left in recent years, and these are millions of ukrainians who can convey our ideas, our interest to senators, to deputies in various democratic countries, after all, these are electoral countries, there everything depends on the public. thoughts, and if millions of ukrainians came out in the squares of the main cities western countries, they come out, but not as much as we would like, and it is clearly uncoordinated. actions, but rather the actions of activists who of their own free will, because they care about the future of ukraine, go

to such actions, i do not see any coordinated policy of the ukrainian state in this direction, no one works with the diaspora, and according to various calculations, well, the largest number i heard at the world congress of ukrainians estimated the number of ukrainians in the world of different generations of the diaspora, of different waves of the diaspora, at two. that is, in fact, almost as long as he lives inside ukraine, there are already ukrainians living abroad, we could use this soft power to promote ukrainian interests, primarily in america. thank you, andriy, i will remind our viewers that we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, today we are conducting a poll, today we are asking you about whether you think the third world war is inevitable, yes no, on youtube is quite simple, if you have a separate... opinion, a separate opinion, you can leave it in in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the relevant numbers 0800 211 381, if you think the third

world war is inevitable, if you don't think so, then 0800 211 382. another topic , this week's colleagues, this topic actually started exactly a week ago, when in the center of lviv was killed and... farion, today the galician district court of lviv chose a preventive measure for the person detained on suspicion of murdering farion, arrest for 60 days without the right to bail, the day before he was informed about suspicion under the article of intentional murder, which provides from seven to 15 years of imprisonment. a young man, an 18-year-old boy, was detained in dnipro, law enforcement officers released a fragment of the video with questions to the murder suspect. let's listen to iryna farion, what the young man was asked and what he answered. have you committed any murder? it will be clear, let's see. are you

guilty of this? let's see. how would you explain your actions at the time you committed the murder? next. well, this is the story, this is an 18-year-old young man who is a suspect in the murder of iryna farion, now the court and the investigators have to prove, or the prosecutors have to prove, that he was involved in this murder, or committed the murder, it is known that the gun itself, which was used to shoot, was not found by law enforcement officers, and this suspect... they have already arrested all the way in dnipro, yanina, you spoke with irina farion, and after that

, a very big story was about the fact that, as the events developed further, our tv viewers who are sitting on youtube are talking about asking if you ever thought about this interview. and about... the consequences of this interview, i'm not saying that the murder of irina farion is a consequence of your interview, but our viewers link all these events, say that they are in some chain, how do you look at this whole story and especially with this suspect, does it not remind you this story is similar to the previous story about the murder of journalist sheremet and it is about the same. the scheme happened when all the managers came out, said that we had found suspects in the murder, put them in the butchery, but it

is not known who ordered the murder of pavel sheremet, but it is known that there in rifmaster, yuliya kuzmenko, and dugar spent time in pre-trial detention centers, yana dugar was also under investigation, well, unlike shremet's case, in this case there are already some. here are photos and video materials, and more than a few cameras, and the cameras are not black and white, but there are also color ones with those involved, the suspects, the murder of irenofaryon is an act of terror, and despite all the arguments that echoed in society and in conversations with iryna farion, and we we can be dissatisfied alone. to say to each other what we think about this or that issue, we may like someone or not like his position, but killing a person

is an act of terror. for which the murderer should suffer a fair, cruel punishment, so do i relate this to an interview we had, i will recall in 2023, iryna farion was a person who defended the language in the format in which she considered it e worth doing in a radical format, with her own style, which some liked, some did not, some condemned when we had a conversation with her, and we had more than one conversation with her, and between conversations we even corresponded about certain events in the state and were like-minded in many question, i cannot predict how a person

will answer whether or not. questions, especially if it concerns the topic of the language of the military, these are holy people for me, so the conversations about the fact that then i allegedly provoked something in parion, no, i was conducting my usual conversation as a journalist, discussing uncomfortable topics, that's why we do it our broadcasts, and not just to talk, well, iryna answered the way she answered, and some of the mass media were upset about it. it was not our announcement, it was a piece cut out and circulated further on the networks, and this resulted even in the case of the security service of ukraine, regarding ms. iryna and regarding us, as manufacturers of the product, where these theses were voiced. let me remind you that the case is still ongoing, in which our producer and his team, iryna farion, appear as the people who allowed these

theses to be heard. ukrainians, here iryna farion is gone, but i think that a huge layer of her youtube products, which were related to language, history, i hope that it will be valuable for people, i am very sorry that this happened, i believe that the guilty should be severely punished , was it this guy, well i'm not court and investigator. case, however, i would like to know my opinion, external, of course, each of us sees that he is similar, and to find such an intricacies of fate, when a person finds himself at the scene of a crime and was there before that, and is very similar to himself and himself from the dnipro and in lviv, well, it is clear that the cause-and-effect relationship gives us suspicions to think that it is so, so my condolences to the family of iryna farion, and today her daughter saw her in court, asked: uh,

the alleged murderer of her mother and i see in what condition are relatives, it is very, very big a tragedy that should not happen in our country , and it does not happen, if the russian federation and their accomplices in social networks, who disperse theses, disperse conversations in the comments, and all this is happening right now, every day, do not take part in it , that is, every day millions of... dollars are spent on inciting enmity, animosity on social networks, so be careful and do not get carried away by all this, keep a cool head and remember that we have only one enemy, and it is the russian federation, not ours a difference of opinion about one thing or another questions, including language, well, these are my thoughts on this matter, thank you yanina, minister of internal affairs of ukraine, ihor

klymenko. said that the suspect in the murder of farion was looking for information about other politicians and was probably preparing the next possible action, let's hear what klymenko said. and pay attention, 21.07 is the day when he left lviv two days, one and a half days after committing the murder, that is, he is already er, this is his psychological portrait, he has already moved away from what he did and was already preparing the next possible was cooking the next action, well , this fragment where he says that maksym buzhanskyi could have been there, because he tried to find out who maks buzhanskyi was on google, but in this case it was andriyu, the minister of foreign affairs, excuse me, says that one and a half days after the murder was committed as a fait accompli, that is...