the strategy of the free world in this war, because ukraine, well, cannot bleed endlessly. the ex-head of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny, who is now the extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to great britain, he started this week as a political figure, in fact, his speech was at a high-level meeting, where there were ex-officials of the british army, experts, and he spoke, warned and warns. about the possibility of the outbreak of the third world war, how do you perceive it now, is this a political solo of an already meritorious one, or is it after all it's not solo, it's still the president's team, and one day the president was in london, advocating for alkaline in parallel, and a text came out, an interview with oleksandr syrskyi, the current commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, are there enough arguments that... well does our

military-political leadership inform our western partners? well, i think that it is still correct to say that it was the start of zaluzhny's diplomatic career, because it is normal for ambassadors to speak and even make absolutely political statements, after all, a political career is a little different, is it political ambitions, we don't know the answer to that. question, and i am not ready to answer it, of course, he had an interesting speech, of course there is a lot of interest in luzhluzh, and it is very important that he uses his recognition, and his military authority, and of course, this is his strong point, he is not a professional diplomat, he is, well, so far he is just starting to become one, he is a professional military man, and there is interest in him precisely from this point of view. and it is very good that

he uses it in general as a reminder world of all those risks, i agree with him that i don't think we're on the brink, i think we're already in the third world war, look at the middle east, look at europe, look at the uh red sea , look at latin america, and look, god forbid they would kill trump, regardless of who there supports or does not support. it would be the affairs of the americans, but i am afraid that a civil war could start in america, or some kind of civil conflict, this is a scenario that cannot be ruled out, or is it would not be part of the world big flame, which, therefore, i think that the world war is actually already going on, it's just a question that ukraine and ukrainians gave the world a chance, you know, how poland could not give then in the 39th year, well it was attacked from two sides in contrast to'.

thank god, but almost no one helped them at all, ukraine is being helped, we are attacked from only one side, but we gave the world a chance, poland then could not stop hitler, and ukraine stopped putin, but what happens next, well, it is only us what was said about it, what well, the question of political will and strength on the part of the western world is not seen enough to take advantage of this historic chance that ukraine has given the world, to stop the third world war. the germ, unfortunately, it is unstoppable, and the risks of its full-scale deployment, in my opinion, are growing every day. thank you, mr. oleksiy, for the conversation, thank you, it was oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. after a small plot volodymyr ogrysko, diplomat, politician, former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, will come to our studio, and we will talk about what happened. in the world during the last

week, and in general not only in ukraine, but also in the united states of america, wait for the short story, and for now, please watch the story about how the third year is looking for her son, angela nepochatova from kropyvnytskyi, her son has gone missing during hostilities in the kharkiv region, creativity helps a woman to hold on, painting gives a resource to live and hope, the story of... a mother who, unfortunately, lost a son, a son who went missing, our journalists will tell. the history of this picture, well, unfortunately, is not as good as it would have been, it was written at the moment when our city was under racist shelling, and i was sitting, working, and here... such explosions. angela

nepochatova worked in trade all her life. she picked up a brush only two years ago. this is therapy for me personally. i'm distracting. from the evil of bad thoughts, first of all, you are focused on the work itself, i love nature, i love flowers, well, of course, then the desire to learn draw portraits, people, animals. despite the bright colors on the canvases, ms. angela had a very difficult period in her life, her only son went missing, he was 20 at the time. my son went to serve before he was an adult. headquarters invasion of september 21, and already met the war while on rotation in donetsk region. at the end of march 22, the boys were in kharkiv oblast, where he also disappeared from me.

it is already the third year of searching, waiting, worries. at some point, the woman turned to a psychologist. together, they found a tool that helps her hold on. we have already worked a month, andrii, i ask, what do you want most of all right now? i say draw. i say, well, we, you told us that you draw, let's try it, and gradually, gradually, well , at first there were children's drawings, and an attempt at iguacha and watercolors. then it became, well, i decided to try. even acrylic, a person lives in a state of uncertainty, he does not know how it will end, and we always hope to the last that everything will be resolved as it should be, accordingly, in hope we form certain attitudes that we must

wait, must must be in good condition to support himself for this, because the loved one who will return should see that he was awaited here and that this... everything was accordingly for his sake. currently, kropyvnychanka has already created a series of paintings, dedicated to the ukrainian army. this picture is my favorite and dearest because i painted it on my child's birthday, when he turned 22. he was born to me in the winter, when there was very, very heavy snow, he loves snow. angela nepochatova does not lose hope for... the return of her son, she believes that one day he will definitely see these canvases. from kropyvnytskyi for the espresso tv channel. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. throughout

our broadcast, we conduct polls. today we are asking you about whether you think the third world war is inevitable. this question was actually not formed by the team of the espresso tv channel. and the former head of the armed forces of ukraine, who spoke in london and spoke about the prospects of the russian war unfolding already in europe, and not only in europe, but also in the whole world. so we we are conducting a survey, you either agree with it or not, if you vote on youtube, everything is quite simple, yes, no, or your own opinion, please write in the comments below this video. if you are watching us on tv, please take your smartphone or phone and vote 0800-211-381 if you think so. world war iii is inevitable and 0800 211 382 if you think there will be no world war iii, all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will summarize this vote, i want to introduce our dear guest, this is

volodymyr hrysko, politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs in 2007-2009, head of the russian research center, mr. volodymyr, i welcome you. for the invitation, i am always pleased to be in your studio and talk about current topics, if you allow me, i will immediately respond to your question, i do not want to influence the opinion of our viewers at all, but it seems to me that in fact the war is already underway, at the same time it's been a long time, and we just have to finally understand that it can take many forms, but it is it has been going on for years, because russia declared war on the west through putin's mouth back in 2007, conferences, absolutely, that's why it's simple, well, we're used to it, war is when the hot phase has already converged, when they're already shooting, when they are already killing and so on,

in fact this war has been going on since 2007, so we are simply witnessing various forms of this war, and it would be very important for our western partners to understand that these are not toys, that these are not theoretical conversations. but it is necessary to get involved and defeat the enemy together with ukraine, that's when we will really understand where we are and what we need to do, this week your one of the successor ministers. minister of foreign affairs dmytro koleba visited beijing, he had talks with the minister of foreign affairs of china vane, and this was the first visit by the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine since 2012, in 2013 we know that viktor yanukovych flew there on credit, it was just the day before euromaidan, based on the results of this visit, we are trying to understand, in fact, what the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, and the ministry of foreign affairs, was talking about there. ukraine submits one the information of the ministry of foreign affairs of china is a little different, what dmytro kuleba himself says after his visit to

the celestial empire, let's listen. i spoke about the importance of a just peace, not just any peace, and my chinese colleague himself added that a just and lasting one is very important, because usually it is we who constantly say that peace must... be permanent, well that is long and fair, this is important, today we received a clear signal that china is not looking for any temporary solutions, temporary cessation of fire, fire, it is working permanently, strategic solution to the problem of the war unleashed by russia against ukraine. dmytro kuleba says the right words, but we know china's position, it was announced on the first anniversary of the great war, on february 24 , 2003, where it was rather not china's peace plan, it was china's vision of the situation

in ukraine. they said: territorial integrity is the sovereignty of ukraine, but the two sides must come to an agreement, they must sit down at the negotiating table, well, it seems that in this story there is no aggressor and no victim, but two the parties are in conflict, who could hear the new kuleba? well, of course, you should turn to mr. dmytro and ask him: eh, with passions, what was there after all, apart from correct diplomatic formulas, you know, it seems to me that the chinese continue to play cat and mouse with us, and say that that we would be pleased to hear, but they do things that differ from their words, well, look, they seem to be in favor, as the minister rightly says, in favor of a just peace. "well, my lord, what are the problems, let's go then let's make sure that this just peace comes

as quickly as possible, what needs to be done for this, well, stop supplying russia with the equipment that it uses in the war against ukraine, well, do you have to be an academic to come to such a banal conclusion, no , don't you it is not necessary to stop sponsoring the north korean regime, through which moscow now receives additional. the possibility of entering russia and providing it with outdated, but still some kind of weaponry, you also need to be an academician to understand what should not be done and so on, that is, you understand, there are too many things that do not coincide with what the official beijing says, well, yes, he said something now, but a practical step is being taken, so i honestly do not really believe in you know, we should take our eyes for granted... assurances, because assurances are assurances, and practice is practice, well, we

have, let's say, a kind of double diplomacy now, because on the one hand, we are not conducting any negotiations and talks with belarus, which is putin's ally in the russian-ukrainian war, and we are not talking with kimchinin, we do not conduct any negotiations with other countries that are part of the so-called axis of evil, but we do. conversation with the chinese, and this is constant during these two years, 2.5 years of the great war, such a rather cautious attitude of the ukrainian side towards ukrainian-chinese relations, although there was no ambassador there for a very long time, and this is also a question, and why we single out china as, well, as our strategic partner, although it is exactly the same strategic partner as china is for russia, as belarus is for russia. well, you see, after all, weight belarus, north korea and china - these

concepts are disproportionate, that is, what is a father with his limited capabilities, what is a north korean dictator who sits on the support of beijing, that is, well, political, economic dwarfs, all- after all, china is a monster, an economic monster, which is now gaining weight in... military terms, so it is clear here, but can the same ambassador in china change something today? well, believe me, i don't think so, and if... well, let's face it, who would we send there now or there or replace this to someone else, if the chinese leadership has the ideological attitude that we help russia, then he would dance hopaka there every day and sing chinese songs, nothing would come of it, because it determines the position of the state, another matter

that it is really beneficial for us to have economic relations with china. wine takes everything that ukraine can give, and this is also an important point, but it is also necessary, well, i think, to be furnished with certain conditions, if we recognize that china is a single territory, including taiwan, please, then you should at least take some steps to demonstrate reciprocity, well, diplomacy is primarily reciprocity, but... or then we need, as some of our politicians say, and and and the current and the past, it means then to revise this position. if china recognizes that territorial integrity is already within the framework of the russian constitution, that is, with our illegally occupied territories, well , then what should we worry about taiwan, then we must, like the european union, many countries do, have

have their representative offices there, have their trade missions there, work with them. taiwan is serious, taiwan is the first country in the world that produces, yes, that's why you just have to, you see, on the other hand, for example, slovakia and hungary, well, stopped oil, and topics for conversations immediately appeared , how come, you are spoiling our, our sweet life, well, so beautiful, let's think so that you don't spoil our unsweet life, then let's think so that we too... we will go to some certain exchanges, but it cannot be otherwise, until you step on a corn, no one will pay attention to you, especially since the chinese corn is still aimed at europe, and the same orban traveled to discuss the keteization of europe , i understand, or am i wrong

, well, that is, the chinese are looking for partners in europe, countries through which they will enter the... european market, that is, obviously it will be slovakia, obviously it will be hungary, well, and partly they are considering belarus, serbia, belarus, that is, countries that will allow them, to make such an expansion of the chinese, you absolutely do, mr. serhiy, and you see what is now in the press, that orbán asked chinese banks for a billion dollar loan, this is the promotion of chinese interests through such things, china actually brought . this little hungary to itself and that's all, and then whoever is in the prime minister's chair, if you have taken out loans for a billion, then you have to give them back, and this means that china is going this way and quite successfully for itself puts his beacons, well, he did the same thing in africans, many roots of africa

will simply go bankrupt without china's financial help, that's all, that's distribution, first. economic and then political influence. another important topic, mr. volodymyr, this week is the author's column of the former prime minister of great britain, boris johnson, in the daily mail, after meeting with trump and johnson's vision, or is it possible, the joint vision of johnson and trump, well, probably johnson, which he laid out for trump as a candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, and a lot of it is contradictory. there are points that what does boris johnson write about, well, let's say this, boris johnson is a great friend of ukraine, he has done a lot and we are grateful to him, but there are points about these borders, well, not about borders, he was talking about the borders of the state for 20, february 24, 2022, curtseys to putin regarding the russian language, and also that putin can

return to the big eight, that is, without... from russia - it's the big seven, the seven plus russia, and that's how you judge, it's the game of himself boris johnson, is it donald trump's game after all , now johnson is voicing it, well, here i am i think there are two points, mr. serhiu, you know, in any negotiations you have to show a potential partner the stick, but at the same time show the carrot, which can... encourage him to at least start talking, and then we'll see. for some reason, it seems to me that, well, boris johnson, to whom it is attributed, we still do not fully know. the fact that he stopped the capitulation in istanbul, then to offer him to ukraine that we, you, let's give up what was

as of february 24, 22, well, well, it's just illogical from any point of view, the russian language is even more so, well, that is , it seems to me, or it’s just such a throw-in, and the fact that, what, well, the ukrainians will not agree to this... but maybe the idea is that they say, let’s try to drag it out in this way russia for negotiations, and there we will see what will come of it, especially since britain is now the most powerful partner that provides weapons and helps to actually demilitarize crimea, the loss of crimea, you and i have already discussed many times, this is the beginning of bad processes for putin further, i.e. such an option is possible, but you know, mr. serhiy, i think that... now, by the way, another column by pompeo, ex-secretary of state, has appeared, another plan, trump is already there, destroying putin to zero, everything

is already going the way of lindleys , yes, for 500 m 500 billion, well, that is, another option, that is, you know, it can all be a game, that is , look, here one powerful friend in the country says, well, look, we will do this, well, russia is silent for now, well, you are silent , well, then it means then the second option. and now we will give you so that you will be cold, this batykh it is drawn out, then there was, then there was, then there was a carrot, here is a batih and here we go, but you know, it’s all bad, in fact, why is it bad, because we are always waiting for some kind of plan from someone, well, the question is in the problem, and what about us are so weak that we cannot formulate our plan, well, they will say no, i am, i am zelenskyi's peace formula, well, three points passed, seven left. no, well, mr. sergey, it’s not even about that, it’s a formula, it’s an idea, it’s a thesis, and it’s correct, that is, who would say something against the thesis about territorial

integrity, yes, it’s absolutely logical, but, let's simply decipher it and write what the restoration of territorial integrity means, well, it's simple, again, like an angle of 90°, that is, for this you need to receive appropriate military assistance, for this you need... accordingly, financial assistance, for this you need strengthen sanctions against russia, for this it is necessary for ukraine to start the production of its weapons in a powerful way and so on, for this we need to have the appropriate force, so to speak, living force, which can use all this in order to get a victory, and say, we have these factors, after that number of days we get the situation. completely different in crimea, and then in the south, and then in the east, and so on. do you remember the republicans all the time talking about what we are spending 60 billion on, where is the plan? well,

finally we can sit down to write our plan, which will be presented not just as a plan for ukraine, but as a plan for the victory of the west over russia. they are really beginning to understand that this is the greatest evil. look, in the washington document of the nato summit, russia is the first... enemy of the previous one was china, so they already understand that china is needed here, let it be, then we will see, today is russia, so let's unite and create from this a non -ukrainian plan for ukrainian victory, a joint western-ukrainian plan, so to speak common victory over the enemy, the task is impossible, and we do not have people who can write what is needed, well, maybe president zelensky claims that he should have... his personal plan, that is development, mr. serhiu , this is the development of his ideas, this is not a denial of what is in place there will be some other such plan, no, we

simply take these theses, which are key for us, and write them down, and make it so that it is clear to everyone, both in ukraine and abroad, then the republicans will say, yes, let's fix this one here point, let's, here let's change this one, let's, and then ours is a joint plan, you understand, and then we, and then we tell everyone, guys, no, you don't ask us such questions, not ourselves such questions. this is our joint plan to defeat the enemy. you already mentioned mike pompeo, i will still quote to our viewers that he wrote for the wall street journal. he said that if he wins the presidential election, trump will introduce a $500 billion land list for ukraine and lift arms restrictions. what pompeo writes. this is what a successful plan for ukraine might look like: to introduce real sanctions against russia? strengthen the american defense, revive the nato organization, create a program for ukraine in the amount of 500 billion dollars, ukraine can also be accepted into nato and the eu, according to

pompeo. it is beneficial to america, because then europe will assume more obligations regarding the security of ukraine. and we have the synchronicity of donald trump, the candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, who said on fox news that in a conversation with president zelensky, he told him about the need to end the war. let's hear what trump said. president zelensky called me and we had a good talk. i said. that we must end this war, in front of you is a military machine, they are constantly fighting, they defeated hitler, they defeated napoleon, they are waging war, well, it seems to me that trump is not accurate enough in the fact that who defeated hitler, of course, of course, it cannot be attributed only to stalin, there to the soviet union, after all, it was a collective victory, especially to russia, all the more to russia, because you are for... but he writes more accurately about

lendlease, and if there was no lendlease during the second world war, what would the soviet union have done to beat hitler himself. so that's all, well here let's leave it to trump, he's an eccentric, he's a person who talks so emotionally about something, maybe not quite there exactly, but the thesis is correct, that is, he actually says that russia, this putin's russia, must be finished, because it... is the biggest threat to everyone, and again, you and i once said that we do not study psychotype of politicians, trump is a businessman, he says the same thing, if we take ukraine into nato and the european union, then the issue of ensuring security will be largely entrusted to the europeans, and we will pay less, that's what i say all the time, you just have to understand , with whom you are dealing, prepare for these negotiations very seriously and

to offer those arguments which... will be understandable to the partner and which will give him a benefit, do you remember somewhere in some regular plan, and this is boris johnson, it was said that the americans could be replaced in europe by ukrainians, it was about 70 thousands of ukrainian soldiers, but can you imagine what this amount is for the american budget, yes, it really is not tens, it is hundreds of billions of dollars, so if... that trump counts every penny, says: i don't want to spend it on something that we don't need, well, yes, well, ultimately, a why not, and why not help him, that it is necessary to rearm the whole of europe? well, look, there is a queue for, not for the f-16 in europe, for the f-35, there are queues at the eye, air defense systems, and at the same time,

there are only us... zelensky says we need 125, these patriots, how many are needed in europe? well, it's not 125, it's, it's, it's 500, maybe 25, and each of them is worth 1 billion 200 million dollars, that is, if you look at what it can give to the american economy, the economy, then believe me, i think it is necessary you don't even have to be trump to understand that it's profitable, so there you go to which i am leading, we need to... when we formulate our goals, very clearly and clearly understand with whom and what we are talking about. we understand what to talk about with trump, you understand what to talk about with trump, and what to talk about with kamala harris, because in the current situation, well, it turns out that somewhere after the debate between biden and trump , it was clear that in trump has better opportunities to win the presidential campaign in 2024.

this year, biden does not go to the polls and takes perhaps the most unexpected step, probably not only for the world, but for himself, because kamala harris, she is 19 years younger than donald trump, and this is all the rhetoric prepared by trump for biden, that he said he almost has dementia, that he forgets that he is there can't manage the country, it's just uh... just falling apart, and obviously, well, sociology will probably show there in august what prospects kamala harris has, whether the politics of the united states of america will change significantly if kamala harris becomes the president of the united states states, you know, about no matter what i say to her, i can only think of one thing, that it is necessary to put an end to indecision.