this is still not true, and the majority are women, children, elderly people, ah, men who are there on legal grounds, because not every man 20 there for eight years and in ukraine is subject to mobilization, and here the issue of health "i, maybe he is a father of many children, maybe he takes care of a disabled person, and so on and so forth, so i still doubt that this will really lead to anything, and if, well, that is, i... i am so skeptical about this, i understand why they talk about it, and i understand as a person, we are in ukraine, and it is unpleasant for us to see yes, and to know that there are people who crossed the yew there, yes, illegally left ukraine in order to simply leave, left their homeland, well, but the realism of the fact that they will somehow create such conditions that they will return, to be honest i strongly doubt, mr. oleksiy, with the adoption of...

or amendments to the law on mobilization, in fact , everything is more or less clear, the system has started to work, they have updated their data, in general, since may 18, there are more than 4 million citizens of ukraine, military servicemen connected, but here is a question that did not get to these amendments to the law on amendments to the current legislation, this is a question of demobilization, chairman of the verkhovna rada ruslan. stefanchuk hinted on the air of the national telethon of the only news that the council will not consider the issue of demobilization, let's listen to what he said. i do not know a country that carried out demobilization during the war, or rather, i apologize, i know such a country. this is the ukrainian people's republic of 1919. it was then that the minister of defense, mykola povsh, introduced a draft law on demo cars to the central council.

this bill was then voted central council. please, i have a need to tell what happened next in 1919 . so for me it was very important that the current verkhovna rada not repeat the mistakes of the central rada. how, mr. oleksiy, the verkhovna rada may not repeat the mistakes of the central rada, but still, give hope to those who are now fighting at the front. the third year, that demobilization will still happen, i categorically disagree with stefanchuk, well, first of all, this is, you know, the thesis, i do not know such a country, to be honest, i do not know such a warring country in which people's deputies take bribes, and the next day they come to the verkhovna rada again and sit in a belligerent country, rob a belligerent country, and then feel great and continue to sit in the parliament, but i don't know such a country, and what, well, on it's a pity, except for ukraine, because we have a whole lot there. osizo is one of

the representatives, by the way, in the first place, the servants of the people sit, which concerns whether demobilization can be during the war, and why it cannot be, and why it cannot be, and why us, why the whole war must be drawn out on on the shoulders of those same people, well , it just won't work out that way, well, it's unreal, these people are living people, they can't fight endlessly, a term of service must be established, i stood for it for one and a half years, i fought for it. during the mobilization bill under consideration, and i am outraged that this has not been done yet, no term of service has been established, it is very unfair to those who are fighting today and to their families, and by the way, this one of those reasons that, again, i never make excuses for, but we just they talked about those who sail across the tesa, so one of the reasons for that is that we do not have terms of service, they do not motivate people to join the army. when the entrance is an army, and

there is no exit, well, rather, there is an exit, but god forbid, killed or seriously wounded, so it cannot be, it is so wrong, so dishonest, for me, this is a painful topic, and by the way, this, you know, and in my opinion, this is a very unfair attitude towards the military, this attitude that if we go back to the mother service, everyone will leave, yes many, maybe some will leave and return, and many will not leave the service. but the ukrainians, they are cossacks, they are not serfs, that fortification, it puts a lot of pressure on the people there at the front, i know that they don't know their prospects, it's not fair, it's wrong, will you insist as a sub' object of the legislative initiative on the fact that such a law is needed and such amendments are needed, of course, i speak about it at every meeting of the verkhovna rada, actually the first law on establishing terms of service was. i entered it back in march of last year,

and today in the verkhovna rada there are several of my bills on this topic, unfortunately, they are not considered, and i will remind you that when the mobilization bill was adopted... they removed this amendment 227, it seems that there were votes, that is, they barely had enough votes, the servant of the people , which means to push through and not set the terms of service, then we were very close to the fact that these terms of service did appear, well, unfortunately, it did not happen, will i continue to raise this topic, i will definitely, but what will be the result, unfortunately, i do not have a majority in the parliament, today, mr. oleksiy, the olympic games start in france. er, despite russia's war against ukraine, the russians there do not participate as a country in these olympic games, but there is no reconciliation, which usually precedes the start of the olympic games, but either during the olympic games, moscow ignores the calls

of the olympic committee, they don't care , is it adequate in the context of the olympic games that the world was not killed in the... to the danube territory, and the shaheds fell again in the territory of romania, and here is the question, well, that is, why neither poland nor romania is defeating the russian missiles and drones, why didn't they install and strengthen their air defense group on the border, and they don't shoot down russian drones and missiles when they fall into the impact zone, and in the airspace of ukraine, ukraine fully agrees with this, it is legally possible, ukraine is asks, they for... ensure their own security, not even the security of the country, their own security, but even this they are afraid to do, which means some kind of ghostly escalation and refuse us this, although it would help ukraine a lot, if the western and southern - the western part of ukraine were covered, respectively, from poland and romania, well

, but they don't do it, and there is a huge question, that is, what is the strategy of the free world in this war, because ukraine cannot bleed endlessly. the ex-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, valery zaluzhny, who is now the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to great britain, he started this week as a political figure, in fact, his speech was at a high-level meeting, where there were ex-officials of the british army, experts, and he has spoken, warned and continues to warn the world about the possibility of deployment the third world war, how do you perceive it? now this is the political solo of the already-alkaline, is he still, it is not a solo, it is still the president's team, and one day the president was in london, spoke for the alkaline at the same time, and the text of the interview with oleksandr syrsky,

the current commander-in-chief of the armed forces, came out forces of ukraine, are there enough arguments that our military-political leadership conveys to the western... to your partners, well, i think that it is still correct to say the start of zaluzhny's diplomatic career, because well it would be normal for ambassadors to speak and even absolutely with political statements, after all , a political career is a little different, is it worth having political ambitions, we do not know the answer to this question, and i am not ready to answer it, of course, he had an interesting speech. of course, there is a lot of interest in the hard-working man, and it is very important that he uses his recognition, authority, military, and of course, this is his strong point, he is not a professional diplomat, he is, well, so far he is just starting to become one,

he is a professional soldier, and he is interesting from this point of view, and it is very good that he uses it in general to remind the world of all those risks. i agree with him that i think we're not on the brink, i think we're already in the third world war, look at the middle east, look at europe, look at the red sea, look at latin america, and look , god forbid, they would kill trump, regardless of who there supports or does not support, it would be the affairs of the americans, but i am afraid that in america could start a civil war, or some kind of civil conflict. this is a scenario that cannot be ruled out, or it would not be part of the world's great flame, which is why i think that the world war is actually already underway, it's just a matter of ukraine and ukrainians giving the world a chance, you know how poland was not able to give back then in 1939, well

, it was attacked from two sides, unlike ukraine, thank god, and almost no one helped them at all, they help ukraine, we are attacked from only one side. but we gave a chance for the world, poland could not stop hitler then, and ukraine stopped putin, but what happens next, and this, we were just talking about this, what a question. and the political will and power on the part of the western world, well, it is not visible enough to take advantage of this historical chance that ukraine has given the world, to stop the third world war in the bud. unfortunately, it has not been stopped, and the risk of its full-scale deployment, in my opinion, is growing every day. thank you, mr. oleksiy, for the conversation. thank you. it was alexei honcharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. after a small story , volodymyr ogryzko, diplomat, politician, former minister

of foreign affairs of ukraine, will come to our studio, and we will talk about what happened in the world during the last week, and in general, not only in ukraine, but in the united states of america, wait for ogryzko , and for now, please watch the story about how the third year is looking for the son of angela nepochatova from kropyvnytskyi, her son... has disappeared missing during hostilities in the kharkiv region, creativity, painting helps a woman to hold on, gives a resource to live and hope, the story of a mother who, unfortunately, lost her son, a son who went missing, our journalists will tell, the story of this painting, unfortunately , not as beautiful as we would like. it was written at the moment when our city came under decisive fire

and sat, worked, and there were such explosions, angela nepochatova worked in trade all her life, she picked up the brush only two years ago, this for me personally, therapy distracts me from bad thoughts, first of all, you are focused on... the work itself, i love nature, i love flowers, well, of course, then the desire to learn to draw portraits, people, animals. despite the bright colors on the canvases, ms. angela's life had an extremely difficult period. her only son went missing, he was 20 at the time. my son went to serve even before the full-scale invasion, september 21 , and... already during the war, being on rotation in donetsk region. at the end of march 22

, the boys were in kharkiv oblast, where he also lived i disappeared it is already the third year of searching, waiting, worries. at some point, the woman turned to a psychologist, together they found a tool that helps her hold on. we have been working for a month. andriy asks me what i want most of all right now, i say draw, i say, well, we, you told me that you draw, let's try, and gradually, gradually, well , at first there were children's drawings, and an attempt and gouache, and watercolors , then it became, well, i decided to try acrylic as well, a person lives in a state of uncertainty, he does not know what it is will end and we always hope to the last that everything will be resolved

as it should be, accordingly, in hope we form certain attitudes that we must wait, we must be in good condition, we must support ourselves for this, because the loved one who will return has to see that they were waiting for him here, and that it was all for his sake, now the woman from kropivnych has already created a series of paintings, dedicated to... her ukrainian army. this picture is both my favorite and the most precious for me, because i drew it on the birthday of the child, when he was already a full year old. 22 years old. he was born to me in the winter, when there was very, very heavy snow, he loves snow. angela nepochatova does not lose hope for her son's return. she believes that one day he will definitely see these canvases. sparks for the tv channel. friends, we continue to work

live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. throughout our broadcast, we conduct polls. today we ask you the following question: do you think the third world war is inevitable? this issue was not formed by the team itself of the espresso tv channel, and the former head of the armed forces of ukraine, who spoke in london and spoke about the prospects of deployment. the question of the russian war is already in europe, and not only in europe, but also in the whole world. so we 're doing a poll, you either agree with it or you don't, if you vote on youtube it's pretty simple, yes, no, or actually. please write your opinion in the comments under this video. if you watch us on tv, please pick up your smartphone or phone and vote 0.800 211-381 if you think the third world war is irreversible, and 0800-211382, if you believe that the third world war will not happen, all calls to these numbers are

free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i want to introduce ours. dear guest, this is volodymyr ogrysko, politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of the 7th, 2007-2009, head of the russian research center, mr. volodymyr, i welcome you, thank you for being here today, mr. sergey, thank you for the invitation, it is always a pleasure to be in your studio and talk about current topics, if allow me, i will immediately respond to your question, it is possible, i do not want to influence the opinion of our viewers at all, but it seems to me that in fact the war is already underway. moreover, it has been going on for a long time, and we just have to finally understand that it can take different forms, but it, it has been going on for years and years, because russia declared war on the west through putin's mouth back in 2007, conferences, absolutely, that's why it it's just, well, we're used to it, war is

when the hot phase has already come together, when they're already shooting, when they're already killing and so on, on the right this war has been going on since 2007, so we are simply witnesses of various forms of this war, and it would be very important for our western partners to finally understand that these are not toys, that these are not theoretical conversations, but that we should join together with ukraine to defeat the enemy, then we will really understand where we are and what we need to do, this week one of your successors to the minister of foreign affairs, dmytro kuleba, visited beijing, he had talks with the minister of foreign affairs of china, wang. and this was the first visit since 2012 by the minister of foreign affairs of ukrainian affairs, in 2013 we know that viktor yanukovych flew there on credit, it was just before the euromaidan, but we are trying to understand, based on the results of this visit, what the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine was talking about there, and because the mfa

ukraine's ministry of foreign affairs of china provides one information , slightly different, which dmytro himself says. let's listen after the visit to the celestial empire. i spoke about the importance of just peace, not just any peace, and my chinese colleague himself added that it was just and lasting. this is very important because usually it is we who constantly say that the peace must be permanent, that is, lasting and just. and this is important, today we received a clear signal. that china is not looking for any temporary solutions, temporary ceasefires , it is working on a permanent strategic solution to the problem of the war unleashed by russia against ukraine. dmitry kuleba says the right words, but we know china's position, it was voiced on the first anniversary of the great war on february 24, 2023, where it

was rather not china's peace plan, it was china's vision to the situation that... is developing in ukraine, they said: territorial integrity is the sovereignty of ukraine, but the two sides must come to an agreement, they must sit down at the negotiating table, well, it seems that in this story there is no aggressor and no victim, but two sides are in conflict, what could to hear a new kuleba? well , of course, you have to turn to mr. dmytro and ask him passionately what was there after all, apart from the correct diplomatic formulas. you know, it seems to me that the chinese continue to play cat and mouse with us and say things that we would like to hear, but they do things that differ from their own, from their words, well, look, they seem to be for, as the minister rightly says, for a just peace, well, my lord, what are

the problems, well then, let's make sure that this just peace comes . as quickly as possible, what needs to be done for this, well , stop supplying russia with the equipment it uses in the war against ukraine, well , do you have to be an academician to come to such a banal conclusion, no, don’t you stop sponsoring the north korean regime , through which now moscow gets additional opportunities to attack russia and provide it with, albeit outdated, but still some kind of weapons. you also have to be an academic to understand that you shouldn't do this and so on, that is, you understand, there are too many things that do not coincide with what the official beijing says, well, yes, he ... said something now, but what about the practical ones a step is being taken, therefore, to be honest, i don't really believe that we should, you know, take

assurances on faith, because assurances are assurances, and practice is practice, well, here, let's say, there is a kind of double diplomacy now, because on the one hand we are not conducting any negotiations and conversations with belarus, which is putin's divider in russia. the ukrainian war, and we do not conduct any negotiations with kimchinin and we do not conduct any negotiations with other countries that are part of the so-called axis of evil, but we conduct a conversation with the chinese, and this is constantly during these two years, 2.5 years of the great war, that is enough the cautious attitude of the ukrainian side towards ukrainian-chinese relations, although there was no ambassador there for a very long time, and this is also a question, and why... we do we single out china as our strategic partner, although it is exactly the same strategic partner as china is for russia, as

belarus is for russia? well, you see, after all, the weight of belarus, north korea and china, these concepts are disproportionate, i.e., well, what is a father with his limited capabilities, what is, even more so, a north korean dictator who sits on the actual... beijing , that is, these are, well, political, economic dwarfs, after all, china is a monster, an economic monster, which is now gaining weight in military terms, so here it is clear, but can the same ambassador in china change anything today, well, believe me, i think not, and if, well, let's look at the truth, whoever they send there now, whether there or whether they would replace... something else, if the chinese leadership has the ideological attitude that we help russia, then he would dance hopaka there

every day and sing chinese songs, nothing would come of it, because it determines the position of the state, it is another matter that we it's really beneficial to have economic relations with china, it takes all that ukraine can give, and this is also an important point. but it all still needs to be, well, i think, set with certain conditions, if we recognize that china is a single territory, including taiwan, well , please, then you should at least take some steps to demonstrate reciprocity, well, diplomacy - this is primarily reciprocity, or then we need, as some of our politicians say, both the present and the past. or then revise this position if china recognizes that territorial integrity is already within the framework of russian constitution, i.e. with our illegally occupied territories, well, then why

should we worry about taiwan, then , like the european union, many countries need to have their representations there, have their trade missions there, work with them, taiwan is serious, taiwan - this is the first country in the world that produces, so here you just have to... you see, on the other hand, for example, slovakia and hungary, well , oil was cut off, and topics for conversation immediately appeared, well, what yes, you spoil us, you spoil us our sweet life, well, it’s so beautiful, let’s think so that you don’t spoil our unsweet life for us, then let’s think that we will also go to some certain exchanges, but it can’t be otherwise, until you step on corn, no one will pay attention to you, especially since the chinese corn is still aimed at europe and the same orbán went to discuss

the keteization of europe, i understand, or am i wrong, well that is, the chinese are looking for partners in europe, the countries through which they will be to enter the european market, that is, obviously it will be slovakia, obviously it will be hungary, well, and partly... they are considering belarus, serbia, belarus, that is, countries that will allow them to make such an expansion of the chinese, then you, mr. serhiy, and you you see what is now in the press, that orbán has asked chinese banks for a billion dollar loan, this is the promotion of chinese interests through such things, china is actually tying this little hungary to itself, and that's it, and then who would be there was not... in the prime minister's chair, if you have accumulated credits per billion, then you force them to give it away, and this means that china is going this way and

is quite successfully setting up its own beacons. well , he did the same thing in africa, many african countries will simply go bankrupt without china's financial help, that's the spread of first economic and then political influence. another important topic, mr. volodymyr, this week is the author's column of the former british prime minister boris johnson in the daily mail, after meeting with trump, and johnson's vision, whether it is possible to share vision johnson and trump, well, rather probably johnson, which he presented to trump as a candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, and there are a lot of contradictory points of what boris johnson writes about, well, let's say this, boris johnson is a great friend of ukraine, he he did a lot and we are grateful to him, but there are points about these limits, well, not about borders, he spoke, but about the limits of the state on

february 20, 2022. curtseys to putin regarding the russian language, and also that putin can return to the g8, that is, without russia this is the big seven, seven plus russia, and how do you assess, is this the game of boris johnson himself, or is it donald trump’s game after all, johnson is just voicing it now, well, there seem to me two points here, mr. serhiu, you know, in anyway... in these negotiations, you have to show the potential partner the whip, but at the same time show the carrot, which can encourage him to at least start talking, and then they say we'll see, for some reason it seems to me that boris johnson, who is attributed we still do not know to the end, the fact that he stopped the capitulation in istanbul, then

to offer him in... ukraine, so that we should give up what happened as of february 24, 2022, well, it is simply illogical from any point of view, the russian language is even more so, well, that is , it seems to me here, or it just such a throw, and what, well, the ukrainians will not agree to this, but perhaps the idea is that, as they say, let's try to drag russia into negotiations in this way, and then... we'll see what happens it will work out, especially now britain is the most powerful partner that gives weapons and actually helps to demilitarize crimea, the loss of crimea, you and i have already talked more than once, this is the beginning of further bad processes for putin, that is , such an option is possible, but you know, mr. sergey, i think that, well, now, by the way, another pompeo column has appeared , former

state secretary, another plan yes. already trump destroys putin to zero, that's all there by lindlease of 500 billion, well, that is, another option, that is, you know, it can all be a game, that is , look, here one powerful friend of ukraine says: well, look, we'll do it like this, well russia is silent for now, well, shut up, fine, then so the second option, and now we will give you so that you are cold, this batih is drawn out, then it was, then it was then... a carrot, here is a batih and here we go, but you know, this is all bad, in fact, why is it bad, because that we are constantly waiting for someone, some plan, well, the question is in the problem, and we are so weak that we cannot formulate our plan, well , they will say that no, i am, i am zelensky's peace formula, well, three points about ...