sirsky himself. he said that ukraine will do everything possible to reach the internationally recognized borders of 1991. there is a plan for deoccupation of crimea. it is realistic. of course, this is a great military secret. we will do our best to reach the internationally recognized borders of 91. we must win to free our citizens who are in the occupied territories and are suffering. this is what mr. syrskyi said. well, andrii, here... it is clear that there is a military command, i still understand that he is a representative of the military command, because it is obvious that he knows no less than syrsky about the army and what happened and is happening now in the army, but we see how such a political-military diplomatic elite has formed in ukraine, which explains to the world , which... which

the world perceives, and obviously, the world should listen to what both zaluzhnyi and syrsky say, because in principle, these are probably two people who can tell about the war much more than anyone else, and such experience of participation in a large-scale war after the second world war war, apparently there is no commander-in-chief, that is, 2.5 years of the great war and the 11th year of the russian war. on the territory of ukraine, whether zaluzhnyi and syrskyi are convincing, i am not talking about zelenskyi, because zelenskyi performs a slightly different mission, although he, too, it must be admitted that he is the only president who leads the state during a major invasion since the second world war and has this experience, well , it so happened that a person was not prepared for politics, became the president, and then a large-scale invasion began, and he has...

now the experience of managing the state during martial law and during the war, andrew, is it convincing and syrian and useful for our partners, and if so, what can be the actions of our partners, and what can they do so that the third the world war did not come to europe. i think that despite all the efforts of our kermanychens, they are not convincing enough for the western world. because the western world is in fact in the same state in which ukraine was until february 22, when the whole world warned, drew in these maps of the attack in all the world media, all the intelligence agencies of the world informed our leaders and, in fact , the ukrainian society that there would be an attack, but few people believed in it, and there were a lot of reassuring speeches about the fact that we will have barbecue in may. these are all

such very pessimistic forecasts, everything is not so bad. it seems to me that the western world also lives in such a dream, where they think that they are under this nato umbrella, nothing threatens them, russia will not dare to attack on nato, and the maximum that can be, well , we may have to spend a little more on the defense of ukraine. and... they are not personally threatened by anything, there is no need to do anything, and despite all efforts to convey that, you know, there can be aggression and not in such a direct form, there can be some hybrid forms of aggression, we know how the special services of russia are now trying to disrupt the olympics, there were detained agents, we know about other networks of russian agents who are trying to destabilize europe, but the western world does not see this, my only hope is that still... if only the western elites will see

this negative signal and try to turn their societies through the mass media, through the same bbc, guardian and other publications, towards reality, because now western societies are living in such a sweet dream of peace, which is no longer there. thanks to andrii and yanina, i have a question for you this week. there was also a column by our great friend boris johnson in the daily mail, and there was a great deal of discussion about what plan boris johnson had announced, and that too, well, in fact, these days, when zelenskyi was there, and zaluzhnyi was speaking and syrskyi was speaking, the interview was going on, boris johnson made public his vision regarding the future of ukraine and the future, well, how would i say, its victory... or half-victory of russia, because what he

proposes, well, in principle, it is included in the formula of some appeasement or pacification of putin, because he also says that russia should once again be in the big seven. the big seven plus russia, that the russian language must somehow develop in ukraine so that putin does not felt that he lost, well, some limits, not borders, the limits that were as of february 24 , 2022, that in principle we can reach these limits, but before that trump, as a candidate for the presidency of the united states of america , should give ukraine a lot of weapons in order for ukraine to confront putin with the fact that either he agrees. for some, well , appeasement, or they can open up lendlease, and that's what mike pompeo wrote today, the former secretary of state of the united states of america, what do you think about, actually i was surprised when

read the text of this so-called peace agreement, i was surprised that it was boris johnson who articulated with trump at all, why, because boris... played a considerable role in the fact that the diplomatic role in the fact that we began to defend our land, i will not go into details, i think history will tell how everything really was in the first days of the war, this is not what we are talking about, but boris johnson, i think, and his diplomatic qualities, as the former, including not only the prime minister, but also the minister of foreign affairs, and they dictate a certain... level of diplomacy, which, in my opinion, is in the following formula, this is when you propose something that your interlocutor would like to hear, or what, in the opinion of the interlocutor, may look like a plan, and then in the process of transitions you come up with your plan, this is how

ukrainian diplomats often work, this formula, they i was told, but jokes aside, here the story is more complicated, it is absolutely clear that donald trump is an ambiguous figure, and for ukrainians he was considered a pro-russian figure for the lion's share of the time, however, you know, friends, the last two weeks, what i read and hear , in particular from american publications, which are drawing after the meeting between johnson and trump, a new plan, given the approach of trump, and it has absolutely no history with... crimea and the east of our country, which for some reason we have to give to putin, and there are other plans, quite optimistic, which concern the allocation of 500 billion lend-lease funds, well, you have probably read, which relate to the fact that ukraine will become

a partner of nato and a progressive, european part of it, that europe should allocate more... interest from its budget to the maintenance of nato, not america , that is there are a lot of such options that will strengthen nato, and ukraine will become one of the components of this whole story, why it will be beneficial for the united states, because in exchange for many things related to nato, so to speak, references, concessions of america, except for the main positions at the head of nato, they will still develop their issues. the energy committee, well , you can read about it in the wall street journal, literally a new article, it seems to have come out today, there they describe how all this will be, so summing up the questions of johnson and trump, i will repeat myself, take this as the beginning of a diplomatic bow to start negotiations, but i

will remind you that despite our negative attitude towards trump's words, i emphasize trump's words, this is the person who in 2017... the first, this, it was the 17th year, the first lifted the moratorium on ukraine receiving weapons at all, and the trumpov javelins helped us, in the first days of the full-scale invasion, to defend, in particular , kyiv region, from where i am speaking to you now, there are many devils around trump, he himself is an ambiguous figure, but his egocentrism and the desire to show the world who the united are states, this... as not charity for ukraine at all, you should perceive it, it is exclusively from the position of not protecting democracy, this should not be perceived either, but from the position of strength and the united states, which will show its teeth and trump knows how to do it in contrast from the democrats,

so i would not be at all pessimistic about the seeds of plans for various peace agreements, of which we have already seen three in the last month . appear, i think, after all it is still worth considering the meeting between johnson and trump as the beginning of a dialogue in which trump has a desire to end the war, and believe me, not on the terms of the russian federation, for some reason it seems to me that if it suddenly happens that he leads the states, wins the election, then maybe we can take this as a chance, at least there are arguments for this from the past, a cause-and-effect relationship, regarding biden, i think you all understand what it is... and regarding trump, there are questions here, well, regarding kamala the harrises are faster than trump, because

it is biden's team and him to put biden strategies, i think kamala garis will also continue her sergey, i don't think we will see anything new, but sweat by the way, by the way, after the conversation with zelensky, trump said about what they talked about, he said that it was russia that this is a military machine, they constantly fight, they win. hitler, they defeated napoleon, they are waging a war, i don't know, andrei, whether trump was convincing to zelensky, because when i listened to what trump said, that they defeated hitler, well, it seems a little so funny, considering that that without the american league, probably neither the soviet union, nor great britain, nor all our allies in the anti-hitler coalition, would probably never have defeated hitler, or would have defeated much more. blood and great sacrifices, well, without the ukrainians , no one would have defeated hitler, because

the main part of the hostilities in eastern europe took place on ukrainian lands, and ukrainian forces then launched a counteroffensive. as for america and in general the influence of american ukrainian thought, ukrainian narrative on american cities, it seems to me that he is extremely weak, both on the democrats and on the republicans, and this is... a big mistake of our government, that it spoiled relations with the ukrainian diaspora, as with the old diaspora, with which contacts were not made very much at all, yes and with the new diaspora, with people who left in recent years, which are millions of ukrainians who can convey our ideas, our interest to senators, to deputies in various democratic countries, after all, these are electoral countries, there everything depends on of public... opinion, and if millions ukrainians came out in the squares of the main cities

of western countries, they come out, but not as many as we would like, and these are clearly uncoordinated actions, and rather the actions of activists who, of their own free will, because they care about the future of ukraine, come out to such actions, and i do not see any coordinated policy of the ukrainian state in this direction, no one works with the diaspora, and according to various calculations, well, the largest figure that i heard at the world congress of ukrainians estimates the number of ukrainians in the world of different generations of the diaspora, different waves of the diaspora already in 20 million, that is, in fact almost as many as live inside ukraine, there are already ukrainians living abroad, we could use this soft power to promote ukrainian interests, first of all in america. thank you, andriy, i will remind our viewers that we are working live. tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook, today we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about this,

do you think that the third world war is inevitable, yes, no, on youtube everything is quite simple, if you have a different opinion, separate opinion, you can leave it in the comments below this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the relevant numbers: 0800 211 381, if you think that the third world war is inevitable, if you don't think so, then well... 800-21382. one more topic, colleagues, this week, actually, this topic started exactly a week ago, when iryna farion was killed in the middle of the city of lviv. today, the halytskyi district court of lviv chose a preventive measure for the person detained on suspicion of murdering farion, arrest for 60 days without the right to bail, the day before he was informed of suspicion under the article of intentional murder, which... provides from seven to 15 years of imprisonment, a young man, an 18-year-old young man was detained in the dnipro,

law enforcement officers released a fragment of the video with questions to the suspect in the murder of iryna farion, let's listen to what the young man was asked and what he answered, and you committed some kind of murder, it will be clear, let's see, you are guilty of this, let's see. how would you explain your actions at the time you committed the murder? following. well here is the story, this is an 18-year-old young man who is a suspect in the murder of iryna farion, now the court and the investigators have to prove, or the prosecutors have to prove, that he was involved in this murder, or committed the murder, it is known that the gun that was fired from

the law enforcement officers found, and this suspect... they already arrested him all the way to the dnipro, yanina, you talked to zryna farion, and after that there was a very big story with the fact that the events developed further, here are our tv viewers who are sitting on youtube talking about what is asked have you ever thought about this interview and about... the consequences of this interview, i'm not saying that the murder of irina farion is a consequence of your interview, but our viewers connect all these events, they say that they are in some chain, how do you look at this whole story and especially with this suspect, does this story remind you of the previous story about

the murder of the journalist sheremet, and it is about the same. scheme took place when all the managers came out, said that we had found suspects in the murder, put them in butygarny, but it is not known who ordered the murder of pavel sheremet, but it is known that rifmaster, yuliya kuzmenko, and dugar were imprisoned there, yana dugar was also under investigation, well, unlike the case of shremet, in this case there is already quality. here are photos and video materials and more than a few cameras, and the cameras are not black and white, but there are also color ones with the accused, the suspects, the murder of iryna farion is an act of terror, and despite all the arguments that echoed in

society and in conversations with iryna farion, and we can be dissatisfied with each other. to one to tell each other what we think about this or that issue, we may or may not like someone's position, but killing a person is an act of terror for which the killer should be punished justly, cruelly. here, do i connect this with the interview we had, let me remind you, in 2023, iryna farion. was a person who defended the language in the format in which she thought it should be done in a radical format, with an inherent style of hers, and which some loved, some did not, some condemned when we had a conversation with her, and we

they had more than one conversation with her, and between conversations. we even corresponded about certain events in the state and were like-minded on many issues, i cannot predict how a person will answer this or that question, especially if it concerns the topic of the language of the military, these are holy people for me, so conversations about what then i allegedly provoked something into a parion, no, i was conducting my usual conversation as a journalist discussing discomfort. topics, that's why we do our broadcasts, not just to talk. well, iryna answered as she did, and part of the mass media, it was reproduced, it was not our announcement, it was a piece that was cut out and further reproduced on the networks. and this even entered into the case of the security service of ukraine, regarding ms. iryna and regarding us, as

manufacturers of the product, where these theses were voiced. i remind you that the case is still ongoing. in which our product company and its team and iryna farion appear as people who allowed ukrainians to hear these theses. here irina farion is not here, but i think that a huge layer of her youtube products, which were about language, history, i hope it will be valuable for people, i am very sorry that this happened. i believe that the guilty should be severely punished, was it this guy, well i am not a court and an investigator. case, however, i would like to know my opinion, external, of course, each of us sees that he is similar, and to find such a course, a twist of fate, when a person finds himself at

the scene of a crime and was there before that, and is very similar to himself and himself in lviv, well, it is clear that the cause-and-effect relationship gives us suspicions to think that it is so, therefore , my condolences to the family of iryna farion and today, her daughter saw her in the judge, she asked about the alleged murderer of her mother, and i see the condition of her relatives, this is a very, very big tragedy, which should not happen in our country and it will not happen, unless the russians take part in it the federation and their henchmen on social media spreading theses, spreading the conversation in the comments, and all this is happening right now, every day, that is, every day, millions of ... dollars are spent on inciting animosity on social media, so be careful and do not act on have all this keep a cool head and remember that we have

only one enemy, and it is the russian federation, not our differences of opinion on this or that issue, including language, well, these are my thoughts on this matter, thank you yanina, minister of internal affairs of ukrainian affairs, ihor klymenko. said that the suspect in the murder of farion was looking for information about other politicians and was probably preparing the next possible action, let's listen to what klymenko said, and note that july 21 is the day when he left lviv two days later, one and a half days after the crime murders, that is, he is already uh, this is in his psychological portrait, he has already moved away from what he did and was already preparing the next, maybe he was preparing... the next action, well , this fragment where he says that there could be maksym buzhanskyi, because somewhere he

was trying to find out who max buzhanskyi was on google, but in this case andriyu, the minister of foreign internal affairs, forgive me, says that one and a half days after the murder was committed as a fait accompli, that is, the investigation has not yet been completed, there has not yet been a trial, and the minister of internal affairs says well, one and a half days after the murder, he was preparing the next possible action, nothing has been proven yet, i.e. some records, some kgb statutes in the computer or something, some methods, some photocopies, and yesterday we observed how the photo of this suspect appeared in the mass media, which... could not have happened without the ministry of internal affairs, as far as it corresponds to the practice and norms

of journalistic ethics in this situation, because even yesterday someone wrote that what is this the murderer is already, and not a suspect, how well did the journalists work here correctly and on time? well, i would also like to start with my condolences to the relatives of the murdered woman. terror is not the methods used by the ukrainians, it is very similar to the methods used by the russians, we know about political murders in russia, and this is clearly their style, what they do, it is possible by the hands of some mercenaries or people whom they were able to brainwash with propaganda, well, that's another story, regarding the actions of ukrainian law enforcement officers, who were obviously angry simply to journalists about the alleged murderer, well, this is not correct, unfortunately, such a practice exists, we have already seen many times when faces are blurred

in such a way that it is very easy to guess who is blurred under this face, or when the materials of investigative actions are even merged into leading media, and such leading media come out as if with investigations, but we understand that this is not exactly a journalistic investigation, all this... information about wiretaps and about various video surveillance cameras, it was merged by law enforcement agencies, we have such power in law enforcement agencies, they strengthen their position in order to create the right public opinion. it is not correct to call this guy, even if he really turns out to be a murderer, but at this stage before the court's decision , it is not correct to call him a murderer, it is correct... to call him a suspect after serving him with suspicion, and about the probable next target , i wanted to say about buzhansky, well i read a lot on the internet, not understanding people. how

forion, buzhanskyi are related, as if they are completely opposite people in terms of political views, how they can be the target of a murderer, in my opinion, everything is very logical if your goal is to shake ukrainian society, and for that you need to radicalize people, divide, and precisely murders from one end of the political spectrum of one figure and murders from the other. playing the political spectrum of another figure, can contribute to this and that division and radicalization, and can cause such a social explosion within the country. i think that this is something that benefits russia, and whose hands did not commit this murder, russian interests are behind it. thank you, andrei. on his own end, very briefly, we have one minute left on the air, i would like to ask you, what

do you think? will this case about the investigation of the murder of iryna farion happen, as with other political murders, there were a lot of them in 30 years, you can list vadym boyk, and georgy ganaadze, and vyacheslav chornovol, there were many of these murders, as a rule, some the executors answered, and sometimes they did not answer, but we never saw the customers on the dock. well, considering that we currently have a person involved in the case, in relation to which there is a lot of evidence to get closer to the suspicion, and i think that there is probably a trail behind it, some kind, or there is none, which will make it clear to us whether to answer sergey, you say yes or no, to the question of whether this will be case number two regarding shremet, let me remind you that it ended in nothing,

nothing, that is, everyone... whom they suspected and loudly announced at press conferences, well , given the lack of evidence base, they are now at large and are not criminals, let alone military personnel, volunteers, doctors, further defend the country, will this be story number two like sheremet, let's see, i hope not, serhiy, thank you, yanina, yanina sokolova, andriy yanitskyi were guests of our program today, i thank my colleagues for participating in the program, i would like to remind you that throughout our broadcast we conducted surveys. we asked you about this, do you think the third world war is inevitable, what do our tv viewers think? 60% yes, 40% no. that's it, friends, i'm putting an end to it, i wish you a good weekend, take care of the cpu and your relatives, it was the verdict program of pregii rudenko, goodbye, exclusively on our channel. congratulations, friends, on the air

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