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by public relations, but this is not a public relations issue, it is the fact that every israeli operation allows hamas to release tragic footage of the deaths of the local population, which hamas uses as human shields for its fighters, and no one doesn't say, listen, hamas uses civilians as human shields, everyone says israel is killing civilians, israel has more power, it has to... give in, and if israel has to give in, then what to do with hamas? if the israeli government declared its goal to destroy hamas, so how can the war ever end? well, the war has been going on for almost 300 days, but today i saw that for the first time in a month there was shelling of ashkelon from the rear. i am not saying that there is a danger from hezbollah, that there is a danger from the yemeni tendrils, or is it possible?
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we said, you know, the war has been going on for 300 days, and hamas no longer even has the ability to fire missiles at israel, and if even after these 300 days it has such capabilities, then what needs to be done to eradicate this danger in reality, as in some arab parable , you know in order to kill a snake, you need to burn the forest, well, this is an ambitious desire, and by the way, i have to say: that we are in a similar situation, that is, if we believe that the end of the war and the victory of the war is the restoration of our territorial integrity, then in how many of us are at war, 600 on the 89th day, or more, i already got confused in the numbers, of course, there are 689 of us, well , you see, i even remember that, by memory, in israel, that means i i think that 290. five 295
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well, well, well, we just have to calculate arithmetically how many days we will need in order to actually restore this territorial integrity, maybe 1,100, or maybe 5,200, it all doesn’t matter, well, maybe, especially considering that the russians capture every day , even small ones, but these are new and new territories, well we need to free them, so how many have we freed in 689 days, well... a large territory, but it remains, but it was in the 22nd year, it was in the 22nd year, of course, well, there is always a turning point in the war on that other benefit, and it can happen in a few days, not a few years, but it needs to last until this turning point, so we are in the same situation, israelis, ukrainians, 600 , 295th day there is no understanding of a political solution in nature, 689th year, no political solution is in nature.
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well, this is also trump, who says, i will decide for you here in one day, i will be here for you in one day, grandfather, there are already 295 and 689 days, when you will become president, i don't even want to count how many days there will be, well a lot, already in israel there will be as many as we have now, and in our country i do not even want to count all these tragic days, myself the fact that now the media lives in counting days... war is already a lot, it says a lot, well, so with all due respect to trump's ability and to his sympathy for israel, he knows exactly what needs to be done, to end the war, to fix the image of israel, to destroy hamas, to establish some kind of regime that would allow the restoration of the gaza sector, but he doesn't know how, ugh, ugh, it's like the ukrainian war, he doesn't know how. he wants to,
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but he doesn't know how, well, it happens, even not only at this age, with people, in any age, you understand when you want and don't know how, well, i'll tell you for sure that children are not born from this, well, it's such a problem, unfortunately, 885 days, oh, 885, 885 days, so immersed and in this daily process that these days, so to speak, you can already see, go to thousands, to thousands in fact, when the next president of the united states takes office, there will be more than a thousand plus, but think about when the war in the middle east began , it did not even occur to anyone that it could be 295 days, and in this, in our likewise, some are fabulous. and one more topic, it's
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probably a sad topic today, when i read it, when you, mr. vitaliyu, and we too... talked before the start of the broadcast or during the break. the diet of the republic of poland, with 42 deputies, condemned the activities of the ukrainian insurgent army and ukrainian nationalist organizations. here i will now quote. volodymyr vyatrovych, by the way, wrote about it today. he gave a quote from yesterday's resolution of the polish diet. the sejm of the republic of poland condemns the spread of the ideology and symbolism that concerns the organizations of ukrainian nationalists and the ukrainian insurgent army, the people and organizations that organized the genocide, i emphasize, must be covered with shame and forever constitute an anti-model of actions,
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observing the growing popularity of references to the organization of ukrainian nationalists and the ukrainian insurgent army in ukraine, the sejm of the republic of poland recognizes that it is necessary to make efforts at the state level to eliminate this type of attitude, well, here it is, this is not just a statement, it is a resolution of the sejm of the republic of poland, that is, the parliament, but another statement, now no longer a resolution, but i say it again, a statement of the ministry of foreign affairs, i think, by... poland, that ukraine will not join the european union until it resolves the issue, the volyn issue, and, that is, here is such a statement, a second resolution, and all this happens within three or four days, well, in my opinion, this is an absolutely unfriendly
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step that we received from a country that ukrainians consider. friendly, yes, and from a country that perfectly understands that we are now in a state of war, and unfortunately, so the notes resonate, even partly with the position of the hungarians, yes, the hungarians are somewhat similar, they have some ideological issues towards us, but they rather concern national minorities, the hungarian national minority, here we see that poland, it would seem, well... most of the issues historians have already decided , including in joint conferences of various kinds, there were many joint meetings of ukraine and poland, including official representatives, and this concerned the issue of volyn, the volyn issue, well, what concerns
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the ukrainian insurgent army and organization ukrainian nationalists, in general , the situation is simply deadlocked, because these are people who fought for the rights of their country. our people to have our own country, including now, to fight for the right to be called ukrainians, to be called citizens of ukraine, to have our own language, our own culture, their traditions, and in general were not completely destroyed by the russian empire, or at that time by the soviet union. mr. vitaly, what is this from poland, why are they doing it, more whether it can... become a certain cornerstone for us, to block ukraine's entry into the european union, but less so, still i am interested in another question, for which poland, and absolute, even not absolute, and with almost one hundred percent of the votes in the polish
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parliament, such anti-ukrainian attacks are approved, which often do not even have a real historical basis, well, they do, but this basis is clearly different for each of the parties, and it is clear , that the polish position is historic in this questions, it is very often not objective, why right now, what is happening at all, i think this is part of the internal politics of poland, and we have to clearly understand that the attitude to the history of our neighbors and our attitude, it is different, yes or otherwise, that country... which is a member of the european union, will always dictate certain conditions of attitude to its own historical policy, to that country that wants to join the european union, and because otherwise this country will simply remain outside the european union, i i say things all the time, if you remember, i even when this negotiated process started, they say
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we're going to have to, we're going to have tough conversations with our neighbors, don't be under any illusions, it doesn't look very serious right now, just because we, we're at war, uh, a country that no one is at war... from whom the european union will not accept, our task is to continue these negotiations, to close one chapter after another. what will happen after these negotiations are over, i do not guarantee you. the republic of north macedonia submitted an application to join the european union in in 2004. negotiations began in 2000 which? well, practically not so long ago on the 22nd, 21st because the neighbors of north macedonia, first greece in connection with the constitutional name, and then bulgaria in connection with the north macedonian idea of ​​history, blocked this process. ukrainian journalist can make a speech in the television studio in skopje with exactly
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the same speech as you just gave, it's just that nobody in bulgaria gets away with it, well, if you want to make your speeches, you can get together and make a speech at least on this, at least on the highest point of your country, everyone gather at the hover and talk about how wrong your sejm is, what's wrong with us, we voted, we told you how we see it, you don't see it that way, goodbye, we're nothing ... we can influence, if we want to join the european union, then what should we do? the first thing is to understand that neighbors may have different views on our history, on our education, especially those neighbors with whom we were in the same state, well, our territories were part of pre-war poland, and before that they were part of austria-hungary together with not part of the territories together with those territories that are now part of the republic of poland or were part of it. to wartime poland, and there are painful pages for the polish-ukrainian people, different ideas
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about these pages, if you think that you will be able to impose a ukrainian idea of ​​history on the poles, you are very mistaken, you will not be able to, as, by the way, the poles all the time are offended at the jews and at israel that they cannot impose their own vision of history on them, and there are diplomatic incidents and scandals, but israel remains in its position, israel simply does not want to join the european union, but how can poland impose its historical vision on us, that is, this is also a rather difficult question, because, well, what if at some point the polish parliament says, that he will not ratify the agreement on the accession of ukraine to the european union, without resolving historical issues, then ukraine will, ukraine will still have a check, or the hungarian parliament until the issue of the education of hungarians in transcarpathia is resolved, then ukraine will not join the european union union, you won't do anything to them. they are in the european union, we are not, well, they don't vote, we can't force them to vote, how
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was the issue of negotiations with macedonia resolved with the european union, there was the mediation of other countries of the european union, germany and france, france first of all, i think, who gathered from the bulgarian delegation in north macedonian, they discussed what the complex of actions would be, up to... changing the constitution of north macedonia. north macedonia must change its constitution in order to join the european union. once again, just a name, huh, huh let's say, introduce, ugh, the point that the bulgarians are, ugh, the same, so to speak, factor of north macedonian history, an ethnic minority, as it is called, a people from one of the peoples of north macedonia, like macedonians and albanians. well, and there in the north. macedonia has developed a whole series of ideas, let's remember not only bulgarians, but all national
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minorities, so that it does not look so offensive, and we will also remember bulgaria, but now the macedonian voter voted for those parties that were in the opposition, and for the president who was in of the opposition, opposed it, because the macedonian voters don't like it, huh, and they are not going to change the constitution, well, until they change it, join the european union, huh, or they will be forced to sit down again at the negotiation table with the bulgarians. to agree on something with them through the mediation of france, well, it could be like that for another 10 years, don't you think that it is possible, this is also a consequence of the upcoming presidential election campaign in poland? i think that it is not only about the election campaign, but nobody in bulgaria does this during the election campaign is engaged, in bulgaria, as you know, elections are held every three months, and no one even mentions it, all political forces there, like in poland, are of the same position, there... there is no party that will say: listen, let's we will not bother them, there are no such parties, and in poland, as you can see,
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there are no such parties, no, well, there are political forces in poland that are in principle against ukraine, by the way, according to the latest polls, the confederation is 13%, already has, well , you see that there is complete unity of all political parties in poland, so how will it be to appear after the end of our negotiations, uh, most likely we will have to look for mediators again, uh... according to whoever will be in power in poland at the moment, there will be such liberal forces there, so we will look for mediators in germany , there will be some conservative forces, so we will look for mediators somewhere else in france or there. ugh, we will decide what the common policy of historical memory should look like, well, all this will be decided, there may be decisions that the part of the ukrainian people will not like society, or there may be decisions that a part of ukrainian
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society will not like, parliamentary elections will be held, ukrainian voters will vote for the forces that will say we are patriots, we are not going to go to office. to the poles, and ukraine will simply wait there for eight extra years to join the european union, is it possible, yes, maybe, we will just sit in the same room with north macedonia, well, but again, this is on the condition that if the war ends, right , but here we have another problem, north macedonia can sit in this room, in this waiting room, she can also get into the russian zone of influence, by the way, ugh, ugh, but she still has no borders there, she will not be occupied, she will not be occupied, there is serbia nearby, well that's all there. it's not that dangerous, but we can, you know, in these eight-eight years , return to radnuyhavn, that's what the danger is, and i don't understand why the poles don't understand it, why for them, that is, the possibility of losing ukraine, so that ukraine again became part of the russian sphere of influence, she is real even after the war, both after it is lost
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and after it is won, so ukraine is not, the existence of the ukrainian state is not a constant, it can ... enter as a result of the war and the existence of ukraine outside the russian sphere of influence is not a constant, ukraine can return to the russian influence, no matter how people now think that we will never be with the russians, it is not so, the public mood can change in despair, well, if no one takes us there and does not want to see us, here they tell us: listen, we we prayed, you are our brothers, we didn't want to, we now we will help you restore everything, and you now understand that you did not have to deal with these measures, they incited you. and we can do everything in russian, well, that’s all, but listen, and even now, i think that you can find people in ukraine who are ready, maybe they are, maybe there are not so many of them, but at least it seems to me that even compared to the 22nd year, now the number of them who will not want to go to poland, hahaha, i am the number who will vote for patriotic parties that will not change the constitution, conditional
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the constitution, and who will not change the historical policy, as a result, she will go to poland and curse the poles there, those who will be ready to go to russia will remain here, this may be an anecdote, so again, it is necessary, i believe that it is necessary to work with the polish political elite not from the point of view that, you know, we're right here and you're wrong, but from the point of view that if you raise these european historical questions, you might just not understand their implications, that whatever what an ultra-patriotic force you want to bring down... lead to power by your actions here, which will block the european integration of ukraine, as a result will contribute to the return of ukraine to the russian sphere of influence, you do not need it, because oun and the upa are the history of ukraine, but russian influence on ukraine is the future of ukraine, if you are yourself to behave so idiotically, that's what i'm
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talking about, i'm not even going to discuss any historical topics, understand? because you can discuss this history forever in every nation, if we talk about the 20th century, there is a national history that others do not like people, why? because in general the history of the first half of the 20th century, it is the history of terrorism, i apologize, who was, you know, as in this popular novel by ilf and petrov , popular in soviet times, who was panikovsky? is there a monument to paniakovsky on this road or not, well, i don't know, whether paniakovsky was decommunized, who was paniakovsky in kyiv, was he blind, who was marshal pilsutsky, you can find out before he became a soldier, whether he was engaged in he is a political terror, an uncomfortable question, well
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, somehow we respect him not for that, but... when tell me, was stepan bandera involved in terrorist activities, i saw a book in polish, it was called stepan bandera a terrorist, well, of course, he was involved, who doubts, but this is part of the activities of the national liberation movement, the national liberation movement is very often given in the absence of political prospects to terrorist activities, which are not very liked by those against whom it is taking place, but the russians, austrians, or the germans there did not like pilsudski's activities. and the poles did not like bandera's activities, i i remember that i don't remember in which one a long time ago, during one of my first trips to israel, i was in a gesher theater and i was a neighbor. such an elderly man who was once the prime minister of israel is hakashamir or yeets hakashamir
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a terrorist in general, you don't even doubt if i felt any, oh, i'm sitting here, he's a terrorist, no, i was very proud to be here planted, yitzchak shamir, a legend of the zionist movement, of the jewish people, this person blew up the kemdevit hotel in general. this is a hotel, not a barracks, so what, but it was a national movement, which was associated with the need to uproot the british from mandated palestine and give the jews the opportunity to create their own state, as they saw it. now the question is, if i were british, i wouldn't be thrilled. the british were looking for yitzhak kashamir even when he was prime minister of israel, they did not remove that warrant, no... mandela, who was he anyway, i wonder, was he generally a terrorist, the leader of the fighting wing of the national congress organization, the african national congress can still
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be called a political party to some extent at that time, but this there was a combat wing, a combat wing, well, of course, this is a terrorist who was preparing some terrorist acts, but what was the other method of fighting apartheid, well, of course, the people who... ruled south africa, a large part of the population, especially white people, believed , that this is a terrorist who has to live in prison for the rest of his life, well, i can name a large number of such examples, this is otjalan, who is in prison now on one of the islands in the aegean sea, in the aegean, it seems marble, marble, he is an absolute terrorist for the turks, and he is a terrorist, and for the kurds a hero, that is. how to agree on this? it is impossible to agree on this. it can be said that we do not accept terror in our modern world, but
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at the same time we cannot erase it from history. do you understand? and while researching this story, just throw out the pages that are unpleasant for us. of course, the poles would like it to be before the war. in poland looked different than it looked, so that in pre-war poland there would not be a problem with national minorities, well, they were, in 1939 it was clear that the state did not actually exist, that national minorities they did not perceive this state as their own, because the so-called rebellion among the ukrainian population was real, and because poland did not perceive this population as loyal, as equal. population of polish ethnic origin and catholic stories, well, these are all facts, all these percentage norms, all this
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mistrust, of course there were people who believed that this could be fought with political methods, well , by the way, this is also a beautiful story, i was friends with ibrahim rugova was the first president of the self-proclaimed kosovo, well, he thought that it is necessary to fight for the freedom of albanians by political methods. but the serbs continued, they continued the repression, a generation of young people appeared, it's like the ukrainians in poland, who believed that everything was not working, they created the liberation army, kosovo, and now one of the leaders of this army, and then the president of kosovo hashim tachi is in trouble in the international court, but the question arises, if in general the serbs did not organize a policy of segregation in kosovo for the population, which made up 90% of the population of the territories, it is approximately like eastern galicia, i apologize for that. you serbs can surely convince the kosovars that hashim taiche is a terrorist, i am not sure, by the way, ukrainians, well, ukrainians respect
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andrii sheptytskyi, as kosovars respect ibrahim rugova, ibrahim rugova was never in his life a supporter of forceful actions of any kind. but this does not mean that we should close our eyes to the fact that bandera, shukhevych, melnyk and other leaders of the ukrainian national movement are activists. who created the organization of ukrainian nationalists, they believed that nothing could be done politically with this discriminatory policy, who who is to blame first, the one who reacts to the discriminatory policy, or the one who introduces it, well, this is also a good question that could be asked to all of us and to our polish friends, because it is not only the activities of the oun and the upa that need to be audited, an audit is needed those two decades, when ukrainians, poles, jews, in this one state, what happened in it in general, were there no divisions in it, well, that is a good question, but this is a question for the future, by the way, i told you the framework of our negotiations with poland,
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marathon with mykola veresny. saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15 at espresso. greetings to all viewers of espresso, yana. such is the news. at night, the defense forces struck the poleva oil depot in the kursk region of russia. it provided the russian army with fuel. a fire broke out, the general staff of the armed forces reported. the operation was carried out by sbu forces in cooperation with other defense forces. also at night, powerful explosions were heard in the area of ​​the electric substation.

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