there are states that were simply artificially created by historical milestones, because they were created in order to divide the political map, as in africa, for example, the political map was divided, that is, ukraine is ukraine, and ukraine should be compared to those countries that are similar in structure, in some political vision, yes, in history, these are our neighbors, whatever it may be, they... are similar in terms of historical realities to us, so of course we must understand what exactly they are an element of comparison for ukraine, than, for example, there is a conditional switzerland, yes, that's why these all the russian narratives, which are very much and very successfully thrown into the ukrainian space, we must somehow work to at least isolate ourselves from it. because russian,

russian propaganda, well, we say it every time, it works more and more effectively every day, if we will, will, will indulge it, if we believe it, if we believe any russian narratives , and you know the last thing i want to say, actually, let's remember autumn. 2023, when that's all started in my opinion, many colleagues may forgive me, but in my opinion, the issue of farion in november-december of 2023 was extremely, i would say, negatively promoted, including by the ukrainian media. well , i think that, well, well, in fact, there was no reason to promote such a huge tragedy. which was promoted,

if, if she said something conditionally wrong, well, there are different people, and there are different opinions that she said something wrong, why promote the thesis, moreover, from the point of view that will conditionally divide ukraine, that is there are ukrainian telegram channels of all kinds, yes, they are just day and night, i remember those weeks, in november of last year , day and night they were promoting in... pulling out every interview, every word, every sentence, farion, why did you do it, you have a mind, i want to ask, did you want to divide ukrainian society, or did you want hype, someone just wanted hype, someone wanted to make money from it, someone wanted to increase subscribers from it, that's what i'm talking about, but we are at war, well, it is not normal, we are we are at war, people don't realize that we have russia as an enemy, which will use your... actions

against our country, yes, that's how it works, well, we 're not in the united states of america, now, where the election campaign is going on, yes, you compare, he said that you should compare yourself with those who are closer, agree, absolutely agree, on the one hand, we are talking about information openness, cleanliness and hygiene, on the other hand, today we are talking about crazy emotional heat. on which, in particular, the audience also pecks, and a lot of people do is used, this applies to both social networks, the well-known telegram, for example, and ukrainian television in the form in which it exists today, the youtube format of ukrainian television and many others, well, in fact, manifestations of the media as such, without removing any responsibility from the ukrainian side for how these

or other moments are covered, on the other hand, i also want to defend ourselves, despite the martial law, despite the fact that we are, in principle, under conditions of censorship, we will continue to try raise painful questions. the debate may not always be neat, but we really, really are, who is more responsible. journalists try to act according to the principle, according to which doctors must act, not to harm, it is very important not to harm, these are responsible journalists, and here are those who want to appear as journalists, i mean different kinds, for example, telegram- the channels, they, in my opinion, then made an extraordinary effort to spread this hate, there was no room for...

there was just a solid solid no, in fact, there was a general replacement of concepts and paraphrasing in such a way that, well, the essence was completely changing, i say that, that in this way we... actually started from within the country in the fall of last year to try to divide people according to various characteristics, and but if we talk about the second person, who probably according to the version of the investigation could be planned in general, well, i don't know, an attempt could be planned, but we are talking about a people's deputy. in your opinion, was there any idea at all, if they still prove that it was

the russian federation, what was the idea of ​​talking about two polarities in the context of their possible destruction, this is the logic of traditions. on and the fsb and foreign intelligence of the russian federation, this logic always consists in hitting two absolutely opposite polarities, two absolutely opposite pain points of society. first, to collect conventionally speaking, let’s be frank, farion had his own audience, but so did buzhanskyi, unfortunately, which one is not, but... he had his own audience, and in order to demonstrate that in ukraine political murders, chaos, terror, their question is not even buzhan's, the question is that they need someone to demonstrate that ukraine, once again, is a fail state, that is, a state that did not

happen, that ukraine is a state in which law enforcement agencies do not operate, the law does not apply , what is there, they want to say that it is a regime, they want to say that we have here... they want to prove it politically and informative that ukraine is supposedly somalia 2, this is their current rhetoric, if you go to their resources, they very often began to use the rhetoric that ukraine is like somalia, where everything happens , but not in a legal way, and they promote this rhetoric even through their mouths and minds. ukrainians themselves, as i understand it, if i'm wrong now, i apologize profusely, but in the last few days , andriy baumeister's interview with medusa,

a russian liberal publication, has been actively discussed on the internet, baumeister is called a political philosopher and one of the main public intellectuals of ukraine. many... at least in my bubble, i 'm terribly sorry, so maybe it's not representative, but it really is, so carefully asking, who is thisster? well, well, to be honest, i had not even heard of this person before, that is, who is he, well, i apologize, his views are absolutely not interesting to me personally, i was not interested, and here i want to make corrections, so be it. where is my personal point of view regarding persons with a ukrainian passport, i would say so, that is, i would not, that is, we must understand that these are people who left ukraine, who are sitting somewhere over the hill, as they say, who pour dirt on our

country, our values, our army very often, they lie, they promote russian narratives, so you know... to call such people ukrainian politicians or ukrainian philosophers or ukrainian there, well, i don’t know, political scientists, well, ukrainian ones, it seems to me that these are those who, who, who act, who work, who create in ukraine, and those people who, i’m sorry, escaped from ukraine and are telling something from there, and absolutely racist narratives that absolutely coincide with the narratives promoted there by solovyov skabeeva and everything together with... russian television, then i say once again, these are individuals or people, or i don't know what to call them, with a ukrainian passport, come on, let's quote a little, here just to make it clear where this thin ice is, on which they are trying to guide us, and we are led by the handle

by the already mentioned baumeister, but they do not succeed, they themselves fall under this summer, this ukrainian philosopher baumeister sure that during the war his... country turned into a totalitarian state and this is the headline on medusa, medusa is once again a liberal russian edition, it is supposedly for everything good, against everything bad and generally for against. against russia's war and against putin and so on, but ukraine is quite a totalitarian state, they believe that it can be put in the headline, okay, we are the ones, by the way, we talked about the irresponsibility of the ukrainian people before this, i already spoke at the end of 2022 about that if we started this war as freedom against tyranny, democracy against totalitarianism, today they are fighting two totalitarian, two totalitarian systems, a small totalitarian and a large totalitarian, only a small totalitarian system... with elements of chaos, zaporizhia youth mixed with makhnovism, unpredictable, chaotic, and the other vertical, stupid, rigid,

bureaucratic, reminiscent of the soviet union, but on another level - says baumeister. and if we, well, let's say this, again, the ukrainian media, which are not included in the common pool of the single format of the marathon, still allow ourselves, where appropriate, to cover. comments regarding the decisions of our government, our parliament, our government, our president and his office, if we can still openly talk about the fact that we do not fully understand why some things in our country are decided by people who were not elected by anyone, for example, then this is again about the discussion, this is our relationship with our government, whatever it is, good or bad, whether we have any comments on it now or not... we should, but compare, compare ukraine today with totalitarian russia

federation, with some, but, this is crazy manipulation, crazy manipulation, of course, well, i don’t know, to be honest, this material is hardly intended for ukrainians at all, this material is intended for those who help ukraine, and for that i am... really very worried, and this is what i am taking care of now , some public, excuse me, alleged intellectual in ukraine, one of the biggest, who is not well known in ukraine, but he speaks on behalf of ukrainian intellectuals, things that are very, very, very out of line with reality, and it appears to be some kind of more or less healthy position, that's how we have it, and i think that... what kind of narrative is this, including for ukraine, and why not? medusa is not read, but all

the ukrainian media wrote about it, again, well, again, the same situation, because we, we, we monitor, but that was most likely the purpose of this provocation, because everyone knew that , for example, the same arestovych, who immediately started pring this... person, this bowmaster, and a whole series of resources of such quite ruskomirovs who started pring it is me, why i do not rule out that russia has not divided or put aside its thoughts and dreams about creating pro-russian forces in ukraine anyway, well, it would actually be naive to think that russia... stopped waging its hybrid war, including in the political direction russia

perfectly understands that sooner or later there will be elections in ukraine. russia perfectly sees and understands that there is still a certain share of voters in ukraine, people who, well, if there, are not directly pro-russian, not for putin, but , let's say, for the great russian culture, for the pushkins, the lermantovs, and so on and so on. ago similar ones who are now on... for example, protecting the soviet, russian, ruskomir vestiges in our country, well, these people have not gone anywhere, they are still there, yes, there are not so many of them anymore, but they are still there, and why would not create, or at least not form such an informational and political pool in ukraine, but maybe it will work, well, we, we, i say, we are democratic, we, how... when we assume, suppose, the war ends , will there be any stage of reduction in the intensity of the war, we

will have elections and they will invest theirs money in pro-russian forces in ukraine, they will invest money in new faces, only russian faces in ukraine, let 's not forget about it, and here are all these narratives of arrestees and his ilk, well, it's not just like that, i understand that it and to the russian audience. but i also understand that their desire to bring russian forces into the parliament did not go anywhere, well, it did not go anywhere, and i do not believe that it will go anywhere, that's right. true, but andrei, there is another side of the coin, i emphasize it again, the jellyfish - a liberal russian publication, that is, a publication that can be actively monitored by our partners, countries and representatives of these countries, who decide when, how, in what quantity, what weapons to give to ukraine in order for it

to fight against the russian federation, against the totalitarian regime , and yes, all these countries. and whether we like it or not, they look closely at this environment of liberal russian politicians, the media and so on and so forth, these exiles from their country, people of great culture, but against putin, maybe they even rely on them some hopes after putin will remain in the past, and theses that lie in the media on these... planes, they somehow reach the people who are very important to us, who decide how and with what further we will defend against ukraine, and here, through these media, a russian ukrainian, a ukrainian, i put it in quotation marks once again, but i emphasize, a public

intellectual, says that ukraine is no better than the russian federation, it is so... totalitarian, and he says this in the the moment when we emphasize, lord, and nancy pelosi emphasizes in her big, in her big material, that the world is in a state of struggle of democracy against dictatorships, in a situation where serious american and not only politicians understand that it is about opposition to democracy, authoritarianism. totalitarianism, as you like, suddenly ukraine is called a totalitarian state, and not just anyone, but a ukrainian, but this, it seems to me, is the whole sensitivity of this technology, well, russia has never acted in one direction, here, this strike is actually carried out in several directions,

but it's even worse when people who live and work in ukraine... come to the countries of the european union and start, well, if not to promote russian narratives, then at least something on the border, the network was shaken by andrii danylko's latest statement, or verki serdyuchka , as you know, danylko came to latvia for one of the festivals, by the way, at this... festival russians also perform, the so-called good russians, so if we can show the video, we can't, unfortunately, we can't show the pros it's a video, but i think you're on social media yourself it you will find and see, danylko again declared that he does not speak the language of the aggressor,

but the aggressor speaks russian, declared that he will not translate songs into ukrainian, and if you, that is, ukrainians, citizens of ukraine , are triggered by this, then don't come to his concerts, well, there was a lot there actually in defense of the russian language in ukraine, russian, russian-speaking, well, so be it, music in ukraine, well, this is the interview he gave, he gave a ukrainian... singer, ukrainian showman, latvian mass media information, when we talk about baumeister, yes, about his point of view, when we try to prove very often to foreigners that ukraine

is not russia-2, it is not the second russia, because many foreigners everything... the entire period of existence after restoration of ukraine's independence, many foreigners believed that ukraine is such a part of russia, it is where russia is, or that it is russia-2, but i remember that the times when i came abroad and contacted foreigners, it was and different countries, where they said, but ukraine, well, that’s where russia is, or well, you have everything in russian, yes, but what is the ukrainian language? and such exists, well, yours are coming, well, that is, and this is also one of the narratives that is very dangerous in the context of what khrystyna said, in the context of the fact that foreigners should perceive ukraine as an original ukraine, not as a part of the russian cultural, informational, historical, political, economic space, no, ukraine should be

perceived as something separate, as a country that fights for its own, as a country that fights for its values, its language, its history, its culture, one's own political identity, one's place on the map of the civilized world, and then andriy danylko, who is conditional, arrives there and says that no, listen, i will speak in russian here, well, you will understand everything, this is the first aspect , and the second aspect is the influence within our country, i am more than convinced that danylko and other similar people, bloggers, whom we talked about in past programs, have their own audience, and when these people go to their audience, they say, but listen, well, you don’t have to... in that ukrainian language, it’s great, but in russian, we will listen to music, we will talk, well , the main thing is that a person is good, well, the good old

narrative, this is the one from the 14th year, including the russians, then how can we demand something from ukrainian citizens, well, if they leave influential ukrainian stars and protect... in ukraine the russian language and in fact protect russian culture in ukraine, nothing, how can we then demand anything from anyone, because such people are primarily responsible for communication with citizens regarding processes of the same ukrainization, this is it actually looks like a continuation of the trend you program was talking about. you earlier, this is kind of tired of having to change, but no, let's end it as soon as possible, when we talked about

bloggers, but no, it's not normal, rockets are flying in the children's hospital, let's somehow come to an agreement there, the authorities with both sides are bad, once again the equalization, excuse me, of our government and their government, now they will write that yatskiv is protecting the ukrainian government, right? and i defend it because it is our government, whether you like it or not, we elected it legal elections, even those who did not vote still recognize the choice of their fellow citizens, because we are a democratic country, and this is our strength, and we will deal with it later, we can, let's say, even disagree with the choice of our fellow citizens, then that's another story, we 're not similar to the russian federation in this, but, but russia and the narratives that it promotes not only in... the country, but outside of it, well , they're not really that new, sometimes i think, my god, how it is possible not to see this, this is fatigue from language evolution, about which

says andriy danylka, don't let him, no no, no, don't force him, because this is a gradual process, an evolutionary process, that's how he ended his speech about the language and about the russian language in his songs, well, i'm sorry, but if this approach is to be used, then this is it. .. the evolutionary process will never end, no one, no one forces people in, relatively speaking, private life at home to speak somehow, correctly, but this is a public person, this is a public space, this is culture, this is the promotion of culture or ukrainian, or russian culture, as ukrainian culture can be promoted in russian, this is nonsense, tell that, tell any person, tell that to a german, tell that... to a pole, tell that to a briton, tell that to a spaniard, well tell them that their culture must be promoted in russian, they will spin it here, near the temple, and by the way,

regarding the promotion of russian narratives, khrystyna wanted to tell about the olympics, such an obvious story to me, which few people understood, well, you probably know that christians, people... believers were outraged by what they saw at the opening of the olympics in paris, seeing in this, well, extremely unpleasant for me interpretations of biblical stories, in particular there and and and art, but these myths are gradually debunked, in particular by cultural experts, bloggers, iryna ulitenko believes that the scandal surrounding the symbols of the opening ceremony of the olympics in paris actually makes no sense , at the ceremony they tried to show not a secret dinner, but a picture of the banquet of the gods with vacuums by the goddess sequeno. the goddess of kela, who, according to legend, was transformed into water from the seine river. the blue man was the image of dionysus, he and bacchus or bacchus, and so on. actually, i

highly recommend you. find this post, read and understand that there is no crazy betrayal there, but definitely the olympic committee apologized for what happened, for the fact that someone could be offended by these performances that were presented at the olympics, but the angry west, tell me , please, where was the last time and the last time you heard this thesis, certainly from the mouth of some russian, but they continue to promote approximately the same thing. don't mess around, dig a little deeper and i think working with information, information hygiene is what will save us as well, so dear our viewers, we thank you very much for being with the espresso tv channel with the new week program for these two hours, we are working for you and we have to sum up the results of our voting now, do you consider the case of iryna farion, murder.

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