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we are back on our air, as promised , journalist from israel svitlana glas joins our conversation about the events in the middle east, we will talk in the next few minutes, ms. svitlana, congratulations i congratulate you, mrs. svitlana, there was an absolutely terrorist shelling, well, children are playing football, a school football championship like this, children were killed in an absolutely cynical way, which is, in principle, characteristic of hezbollah, which controls, let’s say, even the state of lebanon, the answer should have been, the answer was heard in the capital of lebanon, yes, there was a question of a point strike on a building in the city, whether it was destroyed or not, there is confirmation, the one who was in charge, the deputy leader of kirman chah, was destroyed. all this is a strike

back, retaliation, and that's the end of it, or not the danger that now this will start a new israeli, well, lebanese war? the question is very complex, very difficult, i think i cannot answer it unequivocally, i am neither a politician nor a military person, as an ordinary citizen and as a journalist who deals with these issues, i can say... say that we are already 10 months, actually in a state of war, both with the south, both in the south of israel and in the north, due to the fact that in the south we are fighting with hamas, in the north we are fighting with hezbollah, due to the fact that shelling is daily, the northern territories of our countries, they exist, and this, as you said, the terrible terrorist attack that took place on saturday, where he died immediately on the field. ms. svitlana, we see you, but

unfortunately, we cannot hear you, ms. svitlana, we lost the sound, now we will try to restore it, yes, let us remind you that there were two such retaliatory strikes, because the second one took place very interestingly, it was in tehran, the capital of iran, in the capital of iran , the parliament was taking the oath. the new president, newly elected, as we were told, as if about a westerner, but this is under chants of death to america, death to israel, this is how he accepted oath, and here in tehran, they fired at the residence, they say that the residence of one of the leaders of hamas, and here we have to feel a certain psychedelia, hamas, which is in palestine, but the official residence of one of the leaders of hamas where, in tehran, in the capital. to iran, well,

it's unbelievable, history somewhere reminds us that the communist party of ukraine, of course, is yours in kyiv, but the central committee is in moscow. well, we also had such stories with the church, remember? ugh. so, about two important events that happened yesterday, about this shelling that killed the leader of the palestinian movement hamas, ismail khaniya, this is one thing, and the second is actually the attack of the tsahal on beirut. the israeli military said that it was a strike on the location of the commander who was responsible for the strike on the stadium, when civilians were killed, when children were injured, which is the worst and most terrible thing, in lebanon, in turn , they also reported that this strike was aimed specifically at the territory near the headquarters the council of hezbollah, ugh, and what is most so iconic? on the 30th, yes

, yesterday, yesterday, yesterday, haniya participated in this inauguration of the president of iran to screams of death usa, the death of israel, it's the 30th, it's the 31st. there are already photos posted by the local media, the son is standing with his portrait near the ruins of this so -called residence, these are the symbols and signs that brought back sound and images to us, the bright voice just gave us the answer about these two wars in the north and in the south, in which 10 months is israel already living, and at that our sound stopped, ms. svitlana, please continue, well, actually i answered your question, will it be continued, you asked? will this be a continuation of the war, this, of course, is already a war that is going on, and we are with it we are fighting, because the 40-kilometer zone, which is free from israelis in the north of israel, actually says that we are fighting in the north as well, every day hezbollah is shelling our territories,

and again, returning to druska , the druska settlement, where it was killed at the same time twelve children, this is a terrible tragedy, israel thought a little... for a long time how to respond to this, is this the bombing of beirut, that will be the answer, are they still thinking about what it should be like tomorrow, the day after tomorrow and so on, of course, about this no one knows, only this knows our government and the military cabinet, which continue to sit and think about what to do next with the kezbava, are there discussions in israel now, is there a feeling that in fact the western allies, at this moment of responsibility for the state of israel, well, as they say, give crack, slack, or even do not fulfill their obligations. i am now talking about the criticism that exists, for example, in zmi in great britain, there is a new government, and the labor party is actually saying, let's stop supporting

israel with weapons. something similar from the point of view that, if there was no war, it would sound from the outside usa, is there a sense that the western... allies are at least setting up israel. i think that all of our allies, and the united states of america, which, of course, helps a lot, and weapons, and you know, remember that at the beginning of the war, they sent two frigates here, the military, they were standing here, there were soldiers, of course, they help with weapons and support diplomatically, but now. the united states of america is also standing at such, such a turning point, where people are chosen. it seems that biden is still there, but whether he will be or not, no one knows. trump, as if he will, as if he loyal to israel, but again, who knows how it will be, although trump said

that as soon as i become president, the second day i will end this war, well, i would like to know how, it is of course very difficult, does he have fully informed or not, i think that our... allies, which are in european countries and in the united states of america, of course, are also tired of this war, although america has its obligations to israel, they help weapons, planes, support diplomatically, participate in are taking part in those negotiations for the release of the hostages, so it cannot be said that somehow they start beating about us like this, but they are getting tired, tired, well, we have heard similar things about... the russian russian-ukrainian war from trump and his entourage, so nothing new, but here turkey also appeared on the map, which said, in fact, erdogan, threatening, says that we can enter israel, we can do it, a nato country puts forward such statements, and

there are already reproaches that turkey cannot with such applications to be a member of the north atlantic alliance, how did they react to these words in israel and how seriously are they interpreted? well, you said correctly that you reacted in such a way that turkey no longer has, cannot be a member of the un, when it becomes a member of nato, i apologize when they talk about such intentions to enter israel with troops, although trump himself said that if i had, that is, in turkey there was, there was such an army and there were such weapons that israel possesses, then i would have come there a long time ago, then it turns out that it is so, if only. to talk a little, actually it's, well, i don't think so it is real, israel, in the person of the minister of foreign affairs of israel, katz, stated that with such statements, turkey cannot be

a member of nato, and i think that further, after this, there will be some statements, some appeals to this organization, to the leaders about , to... deprive turkey of this status, and i want to say a few words about the mutual relationship between turkey and israel, which has existed for a very long time, from time to time we have some kind of misunderstanding, but in principle. recently , we had normal relations with turkey, good trade relations, tourism, israelis loved turkey very much and went there to rest, but when this war began, of course, turkey completely sided with palestinian autonomy, the gaza strip, called israel a terrorist country, and hamas is the group that fights against the israeli resistance, and of course ... everything has come to nothing with us, well

, both turkey and, by the way, israel is suffering from this, we have increased prices for some agricultural products that we received from turkey, business is suffering, as israeli, and turkish, because of this war, it has an absolutely terrible negative impact, i think that not only for the countries of the middle east, but also for the whole world and europe, informationally, hamas as a political terrorist organization anti-israel, receives an unexpectedly huge support in the whole world in the form of various actions for palestine and for hamas, people come out and confuse, waving the flags of palestine and hamas, for them it is the same thing, and in this case there is a big failure of a certain information campaign both in the western hemisphere and in europe there was a parade of states that began to recognize. a state that does not exist in principle, or did it somehow push the public mood, the debate in

israel itself regarding the palestinian state? look, it is very difficult to conduct discussions in israel, due to the fact that israel, in principle, are all adequate people, normal, they all understand that palestine, there is palestinian autonomy, there is no palestinian state, and i think that there cannot be against the background of today's war, which exists as long as there is ... the terrorist organization hamas, it is very difficult to destroy it, this was one of the tasks set by netanyahu when the war began on october 8 , 2023, unfortunately, it has not been fulfilled, the terrorist organization hamas exists, and there is no question of the creation of a separate palestinian state as such now, the fact that people who live abroad do not know geography very well and do not know history. the historical life that developed here in the middle east between the autonomy and israel, this is of course

a gap and our mass media, which do not work very well, i think, with representatives of foreign media that have accreditation in israel, i can simply tell you, i had accreditation for 19 years, when i was a correspondent of the national radio company of ukraine in the middle east, when we were gathered for such a meeting... again we have a bad relationship communication with ms. svetlana, we understand that sometimes power cuts and what is happening, constant hostilities in different parts of the world can also be you said when i was yes, i was a correspondent and here... we lost contact and i was gathered together and basically told us that, well, not to say, but

let us understand what we can talk about, what we can't talk about, in our countries for which we work, since people were there temporarily, and i still live permanently, then i had a little more of my own information and my own emotions, with which i told what was happening in israel, in general israel at this stage, i i think in terms of information... it loses because of the fact that, as you can see, the world does not know everything. let's say, just a few seconds, when netanyahu went to the united states of america, recently spoke at the congress, then thousands of people gathered there under the congress for a rally against israel and against netanyahu, then among them were hundreds of jews who live there, but they are not at all they know the situation and probably know the geography and history of israel and jews very poorly. yes, we, we. we know in ukraine the same system of russian anti-ukrainian ukrainians, so we understand

how painful and sensitive it is, but in this in the event, tell us, we understand that it looks different in the gas sector, on the left bank of the jordan, what is the mood there now? you know, we don't have it official, but they say that we have a war on three fronts, it's... the south is hamas, it's the north of hezbollah, and it's er jordan, and it's, our, our samaria, where they live settlers of israel. and there are arabs living among whom there is no such, well , mutual respect, and this, every day there are some terrorist acts, some protest actions against the jews, and the defense army enters into clashes there to do this, well, to destroy it israel, which is constantly in these

territories, because of the fact that the whole situation that is happening there is also that little one... on which israel is also fighting all these days. ms. svitlana, thank you for being with the viewers of espresso and telling from your own point of view how it all looks, right from inside israel, svitlana glaz. well, it was about the events in israel, let's go back to ukraine. let's return to ukraine, and let's turn now to the issues of education. in a month, studies begin in ukrainian schools, even there, in particular in lviv, there was a concept that august 19 to sit down... cards, but no, now all ukrainian schoolchildren go to school from september and there are questions in many cities, many regions, online or offline. actually, we will talk about this later. oleksandr kondratyuk, expert on educational issues, founder of the all-ukrainian educational company setstat. join us. mr. oleksandr, good afternoon. congratulations. we literally spent days

talking with residents of both the occupied territories and those on the front lines, where the training is from. takes place online, because in the same new kakhovka, children who moved to the territory under the control of kyiv, very often continue to study for more than two years with their teachers from novaya kakhovka, but the education is only virtual, i.e. online, now such children should be included in schools at their place of residence, put at desks in those regions where it is possible, and on the one hand it is good, because we understand that it will increase. level of education, on the other hand, many children, many parents say that no, they do not want to, because the children are used to their team, because it can be difficult, and there are other reasons, we want to hear your opinion, yes, now according to the new concept this school is offline, as it was called, it sounds like the latest invention, although it is well known to everyone, you know, well forgotten old, but in fact, what it implies, often people perceive that it is

like everyone, everyone , everyone will be put offline, the remote control will never be there again, but this is a slightly unrealistic concept at the moment, somewhere... we will never get rid of the station completely now, and in principle there is no point, you can always use it as at least an auxiliary one later after the coronavirus and after the war. therefore, this concept implies that what they say, they say that a million children study here exclusively remotely, 400 thousand of them abroad, and 600 thousand in ukraine, but they also do not have the opportunity due to, for example, the lack of shelters or being in temporarily occupied territories and so on. so we identified three main categories of people who do not have the opportunity to ... fully, even when there is an opportunity to study offline. these are people who arrive abroad once, what will be done with them, they will be credited with the grades they receive in foreign schools for a ukrainian school, i.e. our certificate is essentially theirs, for example, physics, chemistry, biology will be given in europe , there is science, an integrated science course, and

all these grades are included in it, accordingly they will be transferred, and a person will continue to study only those in a ukrainian school. subjects that she cannot study there in poland, great britain or the usa. for example, the history of ukraine, the ukrainian language, ukrainian literature, probably the defense of ukraine and similar disciplines. the question remains how to put it correctly, of course, because what if the course is integrated, for example, science, then in essence both for physics, and for chemistry, and for biology there, according to geography, a person will receive the same grade there. well, not the best solution, but certainly better than if they continued to study here and there. in this way , they will try to help the first category of people. the second is those who are internally displaced within the borders of ukraine. everything you said. in this way, they will now be told to study in those schools where they can study at least offline, that is , at their place of residence. that's what they are for they can check the availability of free places at the institute of educational analytics, submit

an appropriate application, then notify their school that, they say, we will now study right there. and in this way people will go to school more, of course, whether it is good or bad, but of course there is this moment of losing some classmates, friends, familiar teachers and so on, and at the same time, well, everything should one thing is to improve the quality of education, because education should be such, you know, a pleasant place for them to spend time, but also in the first place queue for knowledge, so what should be done? enroll these children by place of residence, but, for example, develop some series of measures so that they do not lose contact with their like-minded people, because no matter what, they may be unfamiliar, they may be scared, you... saw , that these are small children, so it is possible to develop some series of meetings, for example, that at the place of his previous education, the child will be able to meet

once a month with his class, his teacher, and the teacher will have the appropriate functions, some part of the payment will be saved for him, too, if he hasn't had time to move yet, for example, start working offline somewhere in a new city, and they also promise to provide mandatory jobs for teachers, so they could meet and not lose this connection. to tell together how everyone adapts, to share opinions and so on, this is something that has not been talked about yet, but why not implement it, it is inexpensive for the state, simple implementation and very pleasant for everyone, and it will eliminate these disadvantages of the new scheme, leaving exclusively pluses, and the third category of people are those who are in the temporarily occupied territories, for them, respectively, what is happening, and for them they were told that there will be some kind of individual study schedule, that is , each child will be looked at separately. sounds a bit unrealistic, because there may be quite a lot of them, if we really want thousands there and tens of thousands of them to continue to enter, for example, in a ukrainian university, moving to an unoccupied territory, if

, god forbid, something will remain occupied by that time, then we should think more about ourselves, usually everything is at the discretion of the school it ends with the fact that they say, well, keep your homework there, and that's it, because they often say it 's up to you, and the school says: well, forgive me, but they didn't give us the mechanisms, if what plans are possible according to the first scenario, the second, the third, fourth, fifth, and in this way the school fights against the government, the government against the school, and a certain dissonance emerges, so it would be necessary to think this point over, and the last thing to say on this topic is that some people who cannot study in the front-line areas, for example, because of the absence shelters in schools, for this , 2.5 billion was allocated for the construction of shelters and 1 billion for the purchase of buses that will transport these children, if they do not already have a shelter. to another school, where there is a shelter, and in fact, the innovation is reasonable, good, from the point of view that those who have the opportunity will, for example,

study basic subjects abroad, while here we have these ukrainian-creating disciplines that cannot be studied abroad, internally displaced people are also okay, but what to do with the front-line territories, they have to travel there for some unclear how many kilometers and so on, this is where the parents of these children and the children themselves will probably have... questions, and we should not forget that, as i said from the beginning, this is not some kind of innovation, where now we will all be offline every day, and no there will be no more distance learning, unfortunately, this cannot be done, so we are talking about taking at least part of these people offline, and part of them will continue the lessons remotely, and this, unfortunately, can be there for half a year, a third , two-thirds, i don't know how it will actually go. but also when it will all stabilize and somehow stable training will be arranged for everyone according to some one scheme, but for now we can see the first steps. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for the clarification.

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we summarize the informative morning in ukraine on espresso news. khrystyna porobiy works in the studio. the russian mi-8 helicopter probably crashed near donetsk. propaganda telegram channels report this and publish videos. after all, he had previously been shot down by a propagandist of the ppo. there is currently no official information. at dawn, the russians opened fire kherson, rescuers found the body of a 68-year-old man from under the rubble of his own house. his wife is injured.