only their documents, which i managed to take, and understood that it was a basement, it was cold, and it was worth going home to get some things, this is the first mistake, because we were basically preparing and knew that something would happen, and it was worth to pack an anxious suitcase, now i am analyzing it, what should have been done, but at that moment i calmed down and went up to the 12th floor without using the elevator according to the previous recommendations, which i was given as these... free population, collected those anxious suitcases and for the next morning tried to evacuate children from the city of irpinia, from the kyiv region. we succeeded, it was a long way, and already on february 26, we returned to the city of irpin, and literally in an hour we made a decision that, upon request, we would once again join the medical community with the doctors who receive the wounded first civilians and soldiers. so we ended up in... can you tell us about those first days

of training, what did you do there and who exactly did you help? uh, i had the idea that this is a gray area, that is, there is a front line, where active battles are fought, and there are hospitals and the medics are not harmed, that is, it is a safe place, the wounded will just come to us, but later we realized that this is not the case at all... yes, because when we first heard automatic rounds under the windows, convoys of heavy equipment were passing through the nearby streets, and we could see it and even count it, fighter jets were flying above us, and we saw landing from enemy helicopters. .. groups of tro with

the armed forces, which received wounded from under airport security time. there were also injured children, since the hospital did not work with children, because it was not a children's hospital, so i dealt with children, both injured and those who simply had an illness and needed medical help, and they ended up in this institution , i first encountered gunshot wounds, landmine wounds... in children, and i had no experience before that, accordingly, we were looking for some kind of network, i called my colleagues, i was interested in how to act so as not to harm, how to make the right decisions in treatment of children, i saw the amputation of limbs in children for the first time, and i had to find words to talk to children, to explain, it was difficult. i remember one girl,

sofia, she lost her mother, her cat during the evacuation and lost her upper limb, lost her arm, she was in a palace where there was a window, and the first thing she asked was to close the window, can i have a smaller one room, of course we arranged it, brought and... the room, blocked the window, the children were afraid, we explained what the armed forces of ukraine were doing, that we are being protected, trying to protect them from the terrible truth that we all find ourselves in, from this reality, and in one of the conversations with sophia, holding her hand, she cried and said that i was riding, i want to continue it , and... at that

moment i promised her that you will do it, you will continue, we will leave here, you will have a hand protest, and you will be able to do it, i know for sure that you will be able to, and so running ahead, in sophia really did everything, sophia survived, evacuated with us from buchi, and she received prosthetics abroad, and even dreamed of writing a book, and she wrote it and published it. it's called don't be a disaster, there were also other children, you continue to communicate with sofia, yes, of course, we are in contact with virtually everyone who was in bucha at the time and whom we evacuated, especially all the children, and with their relatives, accordingly, we are very proud of their achievements, also... there were

children who simply had various acute conditions that needed medical attention, and i am proud of those parents who, despite the fact that after five... hours to move around the city it was extremely dangerous, they made a decision to save the children's health and got to the hospital at night, but this is something that probably everyone experiences in ukraine, when one part of your relatives is at home, and with the other you have to go to another city, and in this time you have danger over you, bullets are flying, now rockets are flying too. and so we provided them with emergency help, stabilized the child's condition, and they cannot be left, they don't want to, they want to go home, because other relatives are waiting for them, they are worried about them, this family was also evacuated, after a few days they returned to us they wrote back that they left, everyone survived,

it was very happy news for us, of course, although we were still under occupation at that time, patients, wounded civilians, who were trying to... find food or water and were shot on the street, or grenades were thrown at our feet, we had a mechanism developed over time, who accepts patients in the reception department, who calls a team of surgeons, who collects information, whether there are relatives or not, and we worked in this format for about two weeks, or everyone managed to... save, who exactly did you save, and ask for this evacuation, as it was, it was not the first time, that is, we were declared the first day of evacuation, but i took care of the children, the vast majority, and

my understanding was such , that on the first day you shouldn't go, and this evacuation probably won't happen, a lot of people gathered in the square, and the one for... the planned route, the green corridor, it didn't happen, that is, the buses didn't come, and it was terrible, we didn't collected children, because we suspected that it would not happen, we did not drag them, for that day they were staying in the hospital building, but many people were around in the square, and of course they wanted to stay here, either in the hospital or near the town hall, few wanted to go back to the basement for the night, because it is such a big disappointment when you. .. almost survived and left, and you have to go back to that basement again, but the next day, after all , the buses arrived late, we managed to have our own bus for the wounded, that is, we had two

buses with the wounded , and we started moving in columns with everyone, of course we instructed everyone. that if there will be any shelling, then we should lean as low as possible to the floor of the bus, understand that this may not save us, but glass is glass and open windows, increased danger, we had such a package with medicines for each patient, because we did not know how long the evacuation would last, and each of these patients received serious treatment with antibiotics, so each had his own prescription. and these medicines, we also managed to prevent hypothermia, that is, we had blankets, that's why that they didn't even have suitable clothes, everyone, but they wore what they had, took blankets, in principle, no one got cold, except me, because i must have had adrenaline, i was very

cold during the evacuation, and here we are turning to the first turn at the intersection there is like an automatic queue for the bus. there was such a sound, accordingly, we all fell to the floor, but then we exhaled, it was a burning truck, a military vehicle, and accordingly, glass or the remains of some other parts simply passed through the paneling of our bus, and then we moved in columns, we were stopped once more on the zhytomyr highway, our route was changed. because the route that was supposed to go to the left was destroyed, there were blown up cars, there was a fire, so we stood for a while on this road, on the open road, it was scary, at that moment i

was making a list to send to the clinic welfare, who can accept the most difficult patients for evacuation, we had seven most difficult patients. i will be grateful for the rest of my life to my colleagues who immediately responded and said, we will take all the hardest ones, and that is when we were... standing, when we were driving, we had a clear plan, where we would take these two buses of wounded, to which hospital we would send them and who would be able to take care of them, well , actually, who would take care of the wounded children, enemy tanks were passing by us , we really didn't know how it would all end, but later on , we still made it to the evening, reached already ukrainian land, under the ukrainian flag. you know, my first feelings are that when i get off the bus, i was in a white

coat, although i understood that it did not give any guarantees at all, but it still determined me as a medic, and when we got to the house itself, to the evacuation point, i approached the ambulance, the ambulance brigade, i said that i have 20 wounded people there, i... need 10 cars there, at least to evacuate them, in there are two of you here, i say take half, they say we can't, this is our aid station, we can't move, and we had to move quickly, it was already evening, they are tired, they need to be given medicine, it's cold, it's march a month, and i approach one policeman, i say, can you help me escort the buses, that we go to the block through kyiv? posts freely and quickly, they are waiting for us in the city of kyiv in such and such hospitals, they agreed

on our route, and we, accompanied by the police , drove through the entire part of kyiv, where we were already at the point of transfer of patients from our buses, ordinary bohdans in already specialized medical transport, that's actually how we got to different hospitals with patients. patients were admitted to the regional hospital, and to dobrobut, and to the 17th hospital. olya, this is your experience that you just talked about, the experience that you received already during the war, how did it help you now in the rehabilitation of the military? i would say that it was the beginning, the beginning of formation. as another doctor at that time, having a call from the military and having the experience

of the occupation in buchi with all kinds of injuries and making quick decisions, ee that was the beginning of why i am in rehabilitation, i saw children with amputations for the first time, i saw people with amputations, with injuries of the spinal cord, chest, combined injuries and... i understood that i want to be in this direction and help them, that is, you yourself chose this direction of rehabilitation, so they decided, yes, but i didn’t get there right away, at first i had a place of service in a military unit, as the head of the medical service, and my work there was a little different, i had experience in providing emergency care in civilian conditions, we went through it every six months at our clinic, this was the rule. that we had the skills to provide emergency care, but in military

medicine it is completely different, and one of my areas of work was also to master the provision of assistance in tactical medicine, according to military protocols, but over time my fate was such that i got into the field of rehabilitation of the military, and now... i have been working in this field for the second year, and it seems to me that i am in my place, here is the second year you have been working, and what can you say about this field in general , what are the main challenges you face every day, if we talk specifically about rehabilitation, the main challenge is our soldiers, these are ukrainians, these are our boys and girls who defend our borders. and our freedom, and the main challenge is how to quickly

restore them, how to return them to society, or how return them to the place of service, however , the vast majority of injuries are quite complex, and the rehabilitation process is long, and given the nature of the injuries, not all boys can return to military service, accordingly, one of the main... not only mine, but globally us as ukrainians , this is the integration of veterans, not only veterans, but people who suffered from the war in ukraine, into society. and to provide them with the understanding that they are extremely important people in our society, and we owe them great gratitude, to create comfortable conditions for them, now we have a lot barriers, and this is not only in rehabilitation, but in general in moving around the city, yes, well,

for example, a serviceman, or just a person with limited mobility who moves in a wheelchair. her or his daughter goes to school, then it would be very important for us as a society to create these conditions so that this veteran or just someone with limited mobility can get to this school without obstacles, without outside help, or for example, a restroom, or we always people with reduced mobility can get to... the toilet, no, not always, it's a problem, it's a problem no only in cities, this is also a problem in institutions, administration, educational institutions, medical institutions, now a textbook on barrier-free accessibility was recently announced, where various institutions were analyzed and specific recommendations were issued, as possible

, depending on what we build or what we change. and this is important, for me, a veteran who moves either in a wheelchair or with the help of prostheses, for me, this is an ordinary person, like any of us, who occupies the same niche in society, and eh i reached to the point of understanding that when i enter an institution, the first thing i automatically do is to check with my foot whether there is... a threshold, you already visually assess the width of the door, the passage to the cafe, for example, or whether the restroom is available or can a person can get there, and what i would like to give is probably the advice to all of us, that you should look around your place of residence,

your place of work, understand if it is available to our veterans, probably because i am a veteran. we work more, because that way i am more focused, of course, for people who suffered from the war, because the civilian population is also suffering a lot, we see constant arrivals, constant information, the number of victims, this is also a difficult path. ola, i want to raise the topic of not only physical rehabilitation, but also psychological rehabilitation. of course, if we talk about rehabilitation, it is not only physical rehabilitation, it is also mental health rehabilitation. and its restoration, in fact, a psychologist works in every rehabilitation program and in every rehabilitation team, this is an extremely important professional unit in the team, and the psychologist is also involved to work with the patient immediately, not when

the patient enters the rehabilitation department, but also in the acute period. here it is important to understand, if we are not talking about professional help, that is, when you are not a psychologist, er, about the correctness of a conversation with a patient with severe trauma, let's say , and there is a certain algorithm for conducting this conversation, and of course we get training in communication with the patient, but there are such very simple recommendations, they now exist in various spaces of the internet, others. e social networks, when the military themselves say what should not be done, well, for example, i understand you, it is not quite correct, we cannot understand this particular person in this situation, because we are not that person, but we can say this: i am with you, i will pass your path with you, it is also very important to involve

the family and... forget that the family also suffers from the trauma that their relatives receive, and sometimes it is believed that when the wife or mother comes, she will provide that support, psychological and help, it's not always like that, sometimes the mother or the wife or the child also needs work with a psychologist, preparation, and actually this is work with the whole family or with the whole family. fighters do not always want to report their complex injuries to their relatives. in my experience , there are guys who don't want to tell their mom. and they delay this time as much as possible to inform their mother about their severe injury. i have a fighter here, he lost

two arms. and he decided for himself that he would inform his mother and actually meet with her only when he receives prostheses and learns to use them. that is, he also worries about her psychological state. of course, of course. and we respect his decision. he has a clear we support it, we help to implement it, so yes, it is very important, and the psychologist is a key point, but we all need to learn how to correctly and correctly address veterans, or people who have suffered from the war, and understand and understand , that it is important both for us and for those who receive this help or this application, well, for example, it is not correct if you say:... a stroller or a cart, that is, there is a certain correct concept a wheelchair, not a blind person, but a person with

visual impairment, it is not difficult, it is just necessary to inquire about how ukrainians do everything possible to be correct, yes indeed, and this is true, since we have already said today that receiving a new experience, war experience. we understand that there will still be many people with injuries, many people who will receive serious injuries, which can then lead to problems in the future, let 's say, and olya, as you can estimate, you are talking about the fact that for two years you have been here precisely in rehabilitation of the military, as you can estimate, in these two years there have been some colossal changes, changes for... better, because we didn't have this experience before, that's right, this negative experience of war, and accordingly we didn't know what the rehabilitation of the military was , i would

say it a little differently here, we knew that such rehabilitation was in the military, and we simply could not imagine it on such a scale, of course, the entire medical system, it is overloaded. but i can clearly say, i have experience of communication with foreign colleagues, and you yourself can appreciate how fast we are the progress of the development of prosthetics in ukraine, and how many foreigners want to come to us to exchange experience and find joint solutions in this direction. in other areas of rehabilitation, of course, we develop, we develop very quickly, there is such a thing as continuous professional development, and we

use it, er, we also know how to analyze and make decisions, ukrainians also create new achievements in medicine, in including, for example, i will tell such a short story about how incredible ukrainians are, for example, there is such a fast protocol to determine bleeding in trauma, and the ukrainians analyzed two additional two points and created the farian protocol, which is recognized throughout the world, and this happened during a full-scale invasion, these two additional diagnostic points. dots indicate intestinal damage. and in this way , the surgeon receives early information that

it is still worth paying attention to the damaged intestine. this is during the war. therefore, of course, we develop not only in rehabilitation. a very powerful development in the surgical direction. accordingly, rehabilitation is a consequence surgery. and success is such teamwork . olya, it will be with you. such a question will probably be the most difficult for you. what experience did you have during a full-scale invasion that you would never want to have? losing loved ones, relatives, losing ukrainians. because every loss is a pain that... cannot be described, it is a universe that simply falls in the family, in the family, in the community, in ukraine, the war takes the best.

of course, i would not want this, as probably all ukrainians do, but i want to thank you for yours strength, for your steadfastness, and for your work, thank you, and for agreeing to come and speak frankly about your experience, thank you. see this week in the collaborators program. the troops of the kremlin are standing. why are young people used as labor in the occupied territories? putin was also in the student units, was a fighter of the construction unit. but which of the pseudo-directors prepares students for service in the russian army? the next stage of the installation of our unit. greetings, i'm olena kononenko and

this is the collaborators program about... what for at the call of their hearts and wallets, they went to serve the russian occupiers. in today's edition, i continue to talk about the leaders and members of pro-putin youth organizations that the rashists create in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine. yukh molody, the young army, the first movement, and this is a far from complete list of newly created russian organizations to which the occupiers are trying to attract schoolchildren and young people for the promotion of krem's ideology. they are trying to educate or re-educate the younger generation so that they are ready to leave at any moment fight, work or simply stand in mass for the unchanging dictator of russia. in addition to the organization for children, movements for students are also created and popularized. we are talking about the so-called study squads, similar ones were already in the soviet union. the first such units appeared on the territory of the occupied part of zaporozhye in 2023. their goal is to provide work in state institutions

from... students during the summer vacation in various fields of activity, to put it simply, this is free labor for russia, to provide humanitarian aid to soldiers, to rebuild schools, go to mass actions in support of putin, hold pro-russian lectures in schools, all this is work for young people. kyrylo volodymyrovych papazov, a native of melitopol, is one of the leaders of the regional branch of student detachments in the zaporizhzhia region. volodymyr vladimirovich putin was also in student units, was a fighter. of the construction unit, volodymyr volodymyrovych is the biggest example for us, we all always watch him, his decisions, and support him in everything, i want to say thank you from the entire population of the new regions for everything, what he does for us this young putin fanatic is 20. from open sources , the only thing known about kirill is that before the occupation of melitopol , he studied in the first year of the faculty of natural sciences and geography at melitopol state university

named after bohdan khmelnytskyi. the city was under occupation, the boy decided that now he has a new family, russia, and therefore it is necessary to build a career according to russian rules. i want to join the victory for us campaign and thank every serviceman who is currently serving for the good of the motherland, who protects everyone and gives us the right to live peacefully. initially, papazov entered the makarenko university, which the russians created in occupied melitopol, specializing in state and municipal administration. later, in april 2023, he headed the regional branch of student detachments in the zaporizhzhia region. in this difficult time for the country, i, on behalf of the zaporizhia oblast student units and the zaporizhia oblast public chamber , support our president. we are with you. in this position, the traitor is engaged in the organization of all kinds of patriotic russian actions, the involvement of students in the reconstruction of buildings destroyed by the russians themselves, as well as the provision of soldiers of the so-called svo. we,

for our part, support each serviceman, take them constant humanitarian aid, help them. there is no suspicion of this sell-out yet, but i hope that soon they will give help to kyril himself to steal from ukrainian prisons. and this is another traitor, originally from melitopol, who manages a youth organization in occupied berdyansk. i see berdyansk as a developing city, in which young people will be the same respond to... all the requests of our population, because they are always happy to take part in the improvement of our city. our city as we found out a long time ago, the occupiers often put losers in leadership positions, those who can be easily controlled, who did not build careers during the peaceful life in ukraine, and who are ready to sell themselves with the telbukhs for the sake of...