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espresso. today in the verdict program with serhii rudenko. creeping offensive of the russians continues zelensky says that the troops are tired and need rotation, but there is a lack of weapons for new brigades. how long can a war of attrition last when russia has an industrial advantage. a budget hole of 500 billion. the government plans to close the deficit of public funds at the expense of domestic borrowing and a significant increase in taxes. will the business withstand the additional strain during the war? the great coordinator andriy yarmak denies the growth of his influence on state decisions, but confirms the coordinating role in the president's office. why international partners

are you worried about the system of government in ukraine? glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii ordenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. in the first part of our program, we will have guests, in particular igor. special officer, officer of the armed forces of ukraine, yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world policy and economist, member of the council of the national bank of ukraine, vasyl furman. in the second part of our program, which starts in an hour, we will have traditional journalism club, kateryna nekrecha and olga musafirova. however, before starting our big conversation, i suggest you watch a video of how today...

the second corvette built for the ukrainian fleet was launched in turkey, it was named hetman ivan vyhovskyi, the first lady of ukraine took part in the solemn ceremony olena zelenska. let's see. corveta, hetman, ivan vyhovsky, long and successful life to you. be steadfast and reliable in the protection of people who... trusted you with their lives, bring and embody the best of both countries, ukraine and turkey, in defense of justice and peace.

glory to the navy of ukraine and death to the russian invaders. friends, we conduct polls throughout our broadcast. today we ask you about the following: do you expect gold medals from ukrainian olympians? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you have your own opinion, please write it in the comments below this video. if you are watching us on tv, bring your smartphone or phones and vote by numbers. if you expect gold medals from ukrainian... pizzas 0800 211381 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free vote at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote i want to introduce today our first guest - this is ihor lapin, major of the armed forces of ukraine,

special appointee, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, mr. major, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes in... so, mr. major, let's start our conversation with a gradual the advance of the russians in donetsk region, it has been going on for a long time that the russians are trying to advance in the east. the head of the pentagon, lloyd austin, said that the united states of america is concerned about the progress of russian troops in ukraine, but he is encouraged by ukraine's ability to attract more people to replenish the army. let's listen to what the secretary of defense of the united states of america said. we are concerned about any advance from russia, but i applaud what the ukrainians are continuing to do to make sure they can hold their own. i think you will continue to see that the russians and the ukrainians are sometimes advancing, and somewhere

retreating, but the ukrainians are very determined people, they have demonstrated this from the very beginning of this conflict. mr. major, how do you assess the situation at the front today? well, let's be honest, we see serious risks of cutting off the logistics route pokrovsk -kostyantynivka, it's no longer a secret for anyone, the russians partly turn this wedge to the side, more towards pokrovsk, what you and i have talked about more than once, in parallel we we see serious situations which looms over time, it has not gone anywhere and it continues to be there, which worries me the most to this day, i see, well , not that... the respite after, let's say, after the krynka bridgehead ceased to fulfill its function , which he was carrying out, he was pulling out a colossal number of russian troops, somewhere these troops that were being pulled out to krynyk, somewhere they are now concentrating, according to my information, this is

zaporizhzhia, the zaporizhia direction, and i would like to see colossal fortifications, the yermak line and the zelenskyi line, at least the first and... line precisely in the zaporizhzhia direction, unfortunately, apart from the allocated millions of hryvnias for these lines, i do not hear such information that, relatively speaking, a normal ukrip district is being built there. i want to remind the audience that from the front line to zaporozhye, there are several tens of kilometers, if i am not mistaken, 46 or 47 km, it is not so far, and if we recall the demands of the russian so-called svo, then it has already turned into the demands of war and to... donetsk luhansk oblasts, the russians still want to add zaporizhia and kherson oblasts. for this they need zaporizhzhia, of course. well, kherson is a matter of course, it's just that the river there won't let them cross like that now. and antonivsky bridge does not look very good, as for the transition to the right bank, but nevertheless there is this story.

that's why i observe such things. the following is a statement from the secretary of defense of the united states. of course, it's good for us that they are worried, but we don't have enough ammunition, we don't have enough cluster shells. we don't have enough anti-personnel mines, by the way, maybe there is a secret for the audience or not, ukraine is a signatory to the convention regarding the non-use of anti-personnel mines, especially not directed, as the radio judges say, this is a very funny story, if we are talking about the front line, today's meat assaults of the russians could just be for us, as they say, these anti-personnel mines, and we don't have them only we don't have to use them, we still have them there in the levovy. should have been disposed of, this, well, it is not very good, so the meat assaults of the russians can be shot down with anti-personnel mines, you can shoot down cluster munitions and, of course, fpv drones. it's a shame i can't see you today the front line, so far unified and

scaled production of fpv drones like the first million of president zelenskyi. we continue to release drones in garages, in kitchens, everyone releases what they can. the software, as they say, that he found, then the problem begins, the problem that the front-line drones have to solder something, reflash, well, but the most terrible thing - for us today - is , they say, the death of many brothers and sisters who make explosive shells for the same drones themselves, there is no unified product and the state does not work in this direction at all, but you understand, that is, what is attached to drones, it is all self-propelled, by this time the production workers could have launched it, if there were, such as the state order of the ministry of defense and the will, the will to do exactly this, i don't know for whom it is, how can it be called, except for destroying the flower of the nation with its inaction, that's it,

these are the problems that i talk about every day , we continue to collect volunteers collect, whatever they can, although in principle it would be possible to do this, there are drone manufacturers who can scale production up to certain points, please, make them a competition, at the training ground, choose the five best examples, do it, as they say.. if they allow their scaling and let them all work in the same algorithms, then the drone operator of one brigade will not think of working with drones when he gets to another place, or if the volunteer changes, or if the drone model changes, he will have an understanding, that they all work in the same way meaning, and of course the ammunition, the ammunition must be universal, on the one hand, it must perform cumulative functions in relation to russian armor, on the other hand, it must contain fragmentation. no, as they say, elements in order to strike the enemy's manpower, well, let's talk briefly,

literally, i will say one more thesis, half a million or so how many russian armies there are, how many are there now on the territory of ukraine, well, they say there are 600 thousand, somewhere more or less, if there were a million drones, that's two drones for one muscovites, we would probably have ended the war by now, but apart from the pr campaign by the president and apart from the loud statement about these million drones, i have not yet observed the supply in the troops. specifically drones from the state, i do not know such units, perhaps you have information about which unit is fully provided at the expense of the state, i do not know such units, by the way, fedorov, the minister of digital transformation, he is talking about , that some auctions will be held transparently, not auctions, but lots will be put up and regarding... the fact that these drones are the state ordered that it should be some kind of

procedure, but it's taking so long , it's just not clear why, why it's actually happening, mr. major, what do you think is missing for this to be a big production, because the russians took it there very quickly and started to clip these drones, well, let's be honest, let's see how you can count the best manufacturers of combat drones in ukraine while lying on the sofa, how... you can count it all, of course, you can't count it, but if for russian agents, they can, sitting on divani, calculate such manufacturers that federo proposes to highlight now, i will tell you, it will happen very simply, we go to transparent, look at the tender announced by the stupid authorities, which is praised by fedorov's ministry of digital, and then we go to the register of enterprises, and there are addresses, then we find the geolocation, hammer this geolocation into the head of the next iskander and it flies there, we have already been with... we have already seen it when dovbny published contractors working with kb

luch, and on december 29, if i am not mistaken, a massive missile the attack made a lot of noise enterprises that were direct contractors of our design office kb luch. so, as of today, they want to make it clear that we have july, zelskyi said that there should be a million drones this year, july is over, august has begun, so... as of today , we should already have, well at least half a million finished products, which we just have to take to the military units, and they are preparing some other tenders, for the tender we need a unified product, there must be an order for specific parameters and characteristics, then it will be clear, but in addition to the blade itself, there is also software, there is also the firmware of this drone, these are also serious things, you will put them up for tender, or should he do it. some kind of structure, which will be those drones that are assembled from shit and sticks in

garages by people, then they must be stitched and done as it should be centrally, well , you know, that is if everyone has their own walkie-talkie, which will work on its own purity in its own way by some algorithm, well, this is complete, complete nonsense, therefore there must be a product and its state should scale, that is, if there is some kulibin, for example, i am talking with a guy there, he made a trench reb and... a rap to protect the equipment, the reviews about him are very good, and what’s the point, he even has this guest already approved, and what's the point, they need to be scaled up, we have serious ones. radio electronic warfare systems, such as bukovel or ipetri, were once calculated that with their cost of 40 million dollars, it would be enough to close the entire front line, precisely where they are needed, so that to close the donetsk, luhansk direction there, if it is necessary to close the russian-ukrainian border completely, well, that means buying more, but there are some products that already

have a name in principle, and they have this name earned in combat operations, well, these need to be scaled. we see the russians have launched lancets, the russians are producing that shakhet, geranium there and so on, they, well, really, they increased the production of kha-101 missiles eight times, and we announce a tender, well, we agree that there will be a tender later, only no one will be able to shoot him from that tender, and the fact that americans say they are glad we have the ability to bring more people into the war, we are human. the war will not drag out, we need a wonderwaffle, because the russians have more pig-dogs living on the territory of russia, 140 million, we cannot fight people against people, we will not leave here, yes, by the way, mr. major, deputy chairman of the commission national defense strategy of the united states of america eric eidelman said during the senate hearings that america

and its allies are now producing fewer weapons, than russia, china, iran. and north korea combined. let's hear what he said. our defense industrial base is in very bad shape. the european defense industrial base is in even worse shape. we need our industrial base, and their industrial base, and our allies in the pacific region. australia, japan, south korea, taiwan. all of them need to increase their efforts. because what russia, china, iran and north korea are doing exceeds what we ourselves are capable of. mr. major, the conventional message of evil prevails over the conventional message of civilization. why in under current conditions, our western partners cannot compete with the axis of evil? well, democracies

in general, they are regulated by procedures, any democratic. the state, it is regulated by procedures, the news of evil, it has no such regulation, it only takes a moment from the thought of, from the thought to the order to be executed in the dictator’s head, that’s all, so it is naturally difficult to compete, but what i paid attention to, that’s all everything was said in the context of a probable scenario of the development of events that could lead to the third world war, so that there would not be a third world war, the ukrainians should be given the opportunity to defeat the russian federation. then such countries as china, having an ally in russia, will be scratching their heads very well and wondering if it is worth raising their heads somewhere, because their ally will already be broken. next are economic sanctions, of course they can work, but then the whole world should join the sanctions, and the whole world does not join, india, china and other countries, there is hungary, there is slovakia, they continue to trade with the russians and give them

the opportunity to make money, then of the united states is the biggest threat. for the united states, it is china, of course, and russia. one of the biggest threats is the russian nuclear triad and the russian army, which, by the way, to this day, according to estimates, is considered the second army in the world, and this second army in the world is shelled by ukraine. so give the ukrainians so that we can finish them off faster, then china will lose such a colossal ally, and next to japan, it will lose such an ally. like russia, give us a chance to do it, but not six f-16s against 400 to russian planes over the ukrainian sky, well, six planes do not decide the weather, again, how can you finish off russia at its airfields, not giving the ukrainians permission to use western weapons against russia. well, it's, it's,

you know, on the one hand, i was listening to this report , and there were a lot of sobering things, by the way, but i want to remind all americans that... today's financing of the production of weapons in america, including ukraine, because the americans are replenishing their stocks, their production is growing, jobs are growing, and this is all developing, i'm sorry, thanks to the fact that the ukrainians are fighting with their weapons, and ukraine has become such, you know, a big, big training ground for any kind of weapons, since it already happened that the russians stepped on us, and we already have one, so to speak. gon for testing weapons, i want to say that ukrainians today, for example, in air defense, our air defense is like a grandmother 's patchwork blanket. patriot s300 there is also buki and everything you want, vinaigrette, it completely turns out that the sky closes in us, whatever happened, and we show the effectiveness of one or another

system in one or another direction, well , dear friends, western partners, so multiply these things not only in the context of air defense, multiply them in the context of tanks, f-16 and what is on them, the world has come together in a wedge, there are mirages in france, which are ready, by the way, they were to give us, there is a grizzpin in sweden, please. so let's use these opportunities, yes, they are not the same as the f-16, but we currently have nothing at all, you see, and the story is that western partners are developing their production, but due to the fact that there is a colossal demand for financing, and financing itself, as they say, helps ukraine, but again , jobs are created there, although in ukraine , you have to give credit, our neptune recently showed that he can not only scold. . to sink that he can reach the kurdish airfields, well, it would be good if they would develop the peregrine falcon, boris fen there, that we have the flu, these missile

programs, that would also be good, that's why we need help , but we emphasize once again, we, defeating russia, we can do that the world will avoid the third world war, and looking into the eyes of putin, it will be the same story as the world once looked into the eyes of hitler, remember, i brought you peace. shouted one politician, the result was not peace, but the third world war. by the way, i want to tell you that if you look historically, the things that are currently being said about some kind of truce are precisely the appeasement of the aggressor at someone's expense. hitler was pacified at the expense of the czech republic and czechoslovakia. yes, er, at one time, the first world war ended with a tsarist one russia, as a state, simply ceased to exist. but it was not a country that lost in the first world war, it was a member of the ankanta, and all these historical things should inspire us to fight, including,

not to play with theses peace at any price, peace in exchange for territory and so on , if the western world understands that there can be no peace with russia, and it really cannot be objectively, then we will have more weapons, the second army of the world will disappear, the great ally of china will disappear and the glory of ukraine. well, somewhere that's how i look at it. mr. major, at the very end of our conversation, i would like to ask about your attitude to the formation of ukrainian legions. at first it was announced that it would be in poland from those men who are now abroad. now the czechs are talking about the fact that this ukrainian legion will be formed in the czech republic on a voluntary basis from ukrainian refugees and the czech community of citizens of ukrainian origin, and this is what the minister said. of defense of the czech republic, yana chernokhova, she says, we want to continue the training of ukrainian soldiers, so why not cover with this process, perhaps already czech citizens who consider themselves to be

of ukrainian nationality and not form some kind of unit, like the efforts of the czech republic and poland to form, well, a conditional reserve army for the armed forces, how effective is this process, and what will he give look, i can certainly question this point for one simple reason: there is no prescribed term for this service in the context of demobilization. if there is no demobilization, then there is a problem with mobilization. today, people still look at the zsu, you know, they announced us heroes, closed the door behind us and told us to go to the end until you die. well, how about another way? to date , you can lose weight either if you are 200, or if you are a heavy three? disabled, or because of capture, or because of voluntary abandonment of a military unit and a criminal case. well, this is not an option. the state promised the military to settle it. in

the previous law, they removed the sentence about demobilization, promising to work on a new law. four months have passed, of course no one has done anything, and recently stefanchuk came out and said, yes, we you were thrown, you locks. there will be no dembel during the war. well, in principle, i didn't doubt that it would be like that, well, but many people hoped. so tell me, please, even if the form. this legion is there in poland or in the czech republic, anyone who comes there will say: and dembel when, well, we are going for a year, for two, for three, well, that is, you understand, and this will be a big problem, it will be a problem exactly for the formation of such a legion, on the other hand, many people are still convinced by russian propaganda that you will now join the armed forces, you will immediately be thrown to the meat, without weapons, without anything, our boys, all naked and barefoot, and you will all perish, you will all die, and people in principle would like to go, but simply... they would like to learn, and that's it after all, this moment of the formation of such a unit abroad is like an element that removes russian propaganda in the context that they are trained naked, they will be in children, in

boots, trained, but... the question is whether they will go, taking into account the situation with with a throw that, sorry for the slang, that announced today, not literally today, but there a few days ago, stepanchuk announced that there will be no demobilization, that is, all the promises of the government and the parliament that we will settle it, that's all we fooled you, well, that's all, and this very element, the biggest demotivator to go to the armed forces, this is the biggest to demotivate, thank you, mr. major, for the conversation, it was a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a special award. deputy of the eighth convocation of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, i wish you good health, goodbye, see you again, and let me remind you, friends, that we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook, and throughout our broadcast we are conducting a survey, we are asking you today whether you expect gold medals from ukrainian olympians, yes no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, write your opinion separately if it is, and what

do you think about it. olympiads, participation of ukrainians in the olympics. at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce our second guest, vasyl furman, a member of the council of the national bank of ukraine, doctor of economic sciences. mr. vasyl, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. mr. vasyl, let's start our conversation with the announced tax increase. according to the estimates of the government of ukraine, the state budget lacks uah 500 billion, which is why the situation is critical, and may affect salaries for military and defense procurement. at the same time, denys shmyhal, the prime minister of ukraine, says that he plans to receive about 125 billion uah in addition, the government plans to receive this year thanks to the increase in taxes, and this became

known based on the results of... the meeting of the council of issues of support for entrepreneurship, i will quote mr. shmygal: we understand that this can be a challenge for business, but it is a critical need in the conditions when the government has directed and will direct every hryvnia of entrepreneurs' taxes exclusively to weapons, military salaries and their support, all other expenses require, help finance international partners. how do you, mr. vasyl, assess the government's intentions to raise taxes and whether it will save the situation? thank you for the question, look, in general, we have a deficit of the state budget, a new deficit, this 500 billion uah, this is also taking into account the fact that at the beginning of the year we had a deficit of 38 billion dollars, which will be financed by the funds of our international partners, here an additional 500 billion uah arose, the government of the ministry of finance repeatedly said

why... it arose, well, the need additional funding, and here i express my personal point of view, on the one hand , all of us ukrainians understand that we need funds to finance the ukrainian army, because someone may have a question, why can't our foreign partners give funds? well, this is how it turns out against the great war that all the funds that come into our budget from international partners, they go to finance in... taxes there, for example, salaries of civil servants, education, health care, the deficit of the pension fund is partially covered there, but not for financing the salaries of military personnel, not for financing the military-industrial complex, and other issues related to the war. the war in ukraine is financed by taxpayers, ukrainians, these are individuals and legal entities, plus the borrowings that we

we take from the domestic market. ppp, domestic government loan bonds, so-called military bonds. it is clear that today there is a huge gap of 500 billion. and only at the expense of taxpayers, well, if we talk about this amount of 500 billion, well, we have heard the government's statements that they want to cover a little more than 120 billion this year. and here there is a fierce discussion about how to do it, and business, the government, they are now, well, i am at that much. i understand that so far such a coherent position has not been found, but what i even heard there from the statements of some state officials that they, you know, during the discussion the truth is born, and they want to find this truth, find this middle ground, but i would like to say that if it is about raising taxes, again, it is my personal point of view, that is, if we talk about what needs to be raised, then we need to say: