something happened there in this particular room in hania, and if it is true that the mossad used the members of the security system, this security service, the top leaders of iran, which is subordinate to the command of the islamic revolutionary guard corps, then you can imagine how ayatollah ameniy and others feel iranian leaders, that is, if their bodyguards can be involved in planting bombs in their own... residences, then who will protect them? therefore, they are scared in the literal sense of the word. it simply shows that they have no security, that they have a leaky state, to things, do you remember that the russians wanted to bribe zelenskyi's security guards, do you remember? well, we found out about it, but the iranians didn't, so whatever, we say that we don't always have an efficient state, but here it has already turned out that we have a more efficient state than iran. imagine that someone comes to us,

they put a guest of some protocol ceremony, and he is killed in his own room, you can imagine the level of shame in general, well, this happened in iran, but again, if they talk about what they have to answer, important how they have to respond, their idea is that they have to respond to israel so that israel never does this again in tehran, the same not even to the request of history, but about tehran, israel does not... could do it 10 thousand times in qatar, where haniya lives, but they don't want to spoil relations with qatar, that is , to put an executioner in such a situation, but with iran , you can, but how can they answer, what can they do after one of their attacks is the last one is not over, this is also the number one question, huh, and so are we let's see for sure, because

the israeli response and the further development of events depend on what the iranian strike will be, what its effectiveness will be. what else is the problem here? the previous iranian attack turned out to be completely useless, because iranian drones and unmanned aerial vehicles destroyed neighboring israeli countries in the airspace. but now or in... all the arab states will be ready to participate in this operation, when their palestinian street, the street will tell them that iran wants to take revenge for hania, such a hero, and you do not give them, traitors to our cause, that is, now america will have to create a coalition against iran again on new, i would say, bases, when it comes not only to... who have always considered

hania to be their leader there, well i repeat again, this is the person who won the last, the first, the last parliamentary elections in the palestinian authority, became the prime minister, the latest sociological polls showed that if there were elections for the president of the palestinian authority, more than 70% of the people voted for hanya, that is things, it says a lot about the mood of the civilian population, however, so here... there is a question of how it will develop, in principle, we are on the verge of a possible major war in the region. that is, mr. vitaly, if we talk about this previous massive attack by missiles and drones by iran on israel, then, by the way, many analysts said that a similar attack was such that it could be repelled, because on that at the moment, there was no relevant conjunctural situation where iran would be directly interested. in

order to inflict a crushing defeat on israel. now this situation with the basis for the future answer has completely changed. i understood you correctly. the snakes think that then there will be some kind of special strike so that israel can repel it. it seems that iran simply did not count on the fact that its missiles and drones would not reach israel and would be destroyed in the airspace of other countries. this, by the way, is what we tell our allies about all the time, that if they ... shot down russian missiles and drones even in their airspace or from their airspace, we would be much easier from the point of view of our security, that is, this happened with israel. now the question is not what the iranian attack will be, because i don't think they have been specifically planned in any way to be weak, you think of the number of missiles and drones that have been directed at israel, it's an unprecedented number, it's in general, it seems to me to be the largest drone attack in human history. now it may

be that iran does not have that many arsenals for such a strike. this is true, but he can count on some country, or several countries, through the territory of which all will be it will fly, it will not be shot down, that is the danger, and then it will be more difficult for the israeli air defense system than it was during the first attack, and if it is more difficult for it, if not everything is shot down, if something hits some targets, israel of course about the conduct. saved bombing of iran, see that israel has long been looking for an excuse to, say, destroy iranian nuclear facilities completely, and then a big war will begin, as far as this big war in this region is concerned, and not only putin is interested here, because we you from program to program

we discuss that it is in his interests to incite and increase the number of local conflicts around the world. well, it may not be a local conflict anymore, to be honest, but he is definitely interested, because such a big war, even on the eve of the presidential elections in the united states, will completely focus all attention on the middle east, completely, this is one, two, he really contributes to this, you saw that the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation condemned it. the murder of ismail hanni immediately. but what is it? khanya is a leader terrorist organization. only in october 23, this organization killed peaceful residents of israel, took women and children hostage. russia seems to condemn

terrorism all the time. where is this from? and this is an attempt not even to prove to the palestinians, but to prove to iran that russia will be with him if he starts decisively. this is the hocus pocus of this story: they are inciting iran and giving it the impression that they will agree with him no matter what he does. there is another factor - this is china. china also needs to strengthen its own capabilities near east and by the way, you remember that a few days and a week before hanni's murder, beijing held a completely unexpected meeting of fathi leaders. hamas, and during this meeting they signed a memorandum there on the creation of a government of national unity, i think they will not create anything, but the very fact of the appearance of such an organization, so to speak, in beijing alone

, and this idea says that beijing wants to play important role in the middle east, this was not much hidden in beijing when the last time there was a state secretary in beijing of the united states, antony blinken, they were having parallel talks with the hamas delegation on the day he was meeting with xi jinping, that's all, and they might also be interested in seeing something happen that would reduce the influence of the united states, because they calculate that there will be a war, the united states will help israel, and iran will act as an avenger for ismail khania, then this will naturally change the configuration in the arab world and give more space to china and russia, russia needs free hands in ukraine , china needs simply. this is absolutely clear. ugh. and in conclusion, i would like to talk about such an effect, on the eve of these vivid liquidations, the president of the united states, joseph biden, called on benjamin netanyahu, well,

let's say, to be restrained and not escalate when it comes to the operation in the gaza strip of the operation of the israel defense forces. will these , once again, liquidation of terrorist gangs play into netanyahu's hand in the eyes of virtually all of his other partners, who are already calling for more restraint, but what about his ratings and his reputation within the country, i think, can be discussed in a separate conversation altogether. i think that the ratings and reputation after these liquidations are in a good state, as you understand, and so we see that just recently the rating of antanyahu. is increasing, israel always pursues such a policy that it usually has allied relations with the united states, but it never allows itself to dictate anything, it is not in the rules of israeli prime ministers to listen to american presidents and did as the american president wanted. israeli policy

is to convince the american president that israel's policy is in the interests of the united states. this is the approach. and by the way, this is what benjamin netanyahu was saying when he spoke from the podium of congress when he said, "we are defending ourselves and you from iran, you first." and this is a very important thesis. heard the congressmen, and then listen, which is now of great importance to benyakh, what biden tells him, when he understands perfectly well that in a certain time he will be talking to a new the president of the united states, or with kamala harris, or with donald trump, and that is why he met not only with biden, but also with trump, and he perfectly understands that one more thing, that as soon as the government in the united states changes, he it will really be much harder. yet to act without taking into account the position of the new american administration, because it will be

an administration for four years, so he , by and large, if israel wants to achieve a final victory over hamas, he needs to act precisely in the nearest, let's say, to february 2025, until march, because then it will be more difficult to advance in the direction that the prime minister considers more for himself. pleasant, so this is all such a fairly simple story, in principle, mr. vitaly, another interesting region and a very interesting country in the context of the fact that, well, first of all, it is also in the orbit of interests of the russian federation, and regularly, in to the person of its leaders , supports everything related to russia, does not support resolutions related to... russian aggression against ukraine, well, you can actually continue to talk, language it is about venezuela, which

is still in the electoral process, as i understand it, even though we are already talking about the post-elections, there are people who go to protest actions, there is maduro who is not ready to give in, there is maduro who is calling for some there are duels with elon musk, what is the current situation in venezuela and in this region for you, above all else, you see, everything is very easy there again. maduro lost this election, just as lukashenko lost the 2020 election. the opposition won, but now everything will depend on how much effective is the structure of the power bodies of venus? and to what extent will the power structures and armies support madur? and how massive will the protests be? if it turns out that these protests are not mass. if it turns out that there are not enough people to prevent the security forces from acting, then, of course

, the situation will simply end with maduro continuing the next term as president of venezuela without any particular problems. if the protests increase, then the regime will collapse. now, what is beneficial to putin? of course, it is important to putin for maduro to stay, but not just stay, but stay under sanctions for. because in the last year and a half after the attack of russia on ukraine, many people considered it necessary for venezuela to start being an alternative to russian oil, and it was these agreements between the united states and venezuela that began to be reached, but the condition of these agreements was fair elections in venezuela, these elections it was not fair, even if there were some fair elections, they voted dishonestly. and by reckoning, i have on, means, what can happen to the united states again will have to impose sanctions on venezuela,

announce again that they consider the president not the person who controls the power, but the person who actually won the elections, well, in this way, venezuelan oil will remain in venezuela, well, that's what you need to sweat , so that venezuela depends on russian support, so that it is not a russian competitor in the oil market, so that maduro can tie his future. only with him, that is, he was such a venezuelan lukashenko, so the situation here is simple, but everything will really depend on the venezuelan people, on their ability to respond to this presentation. it is very interesting, in fact , the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi touched on this topic in his address on the x social network, the reports about the presence of wagner's russian mercenaries in venezuela together with the government troops cause concern. wherever these thugs go, they bring death and destabilization. and i cannot help but also note a number of events this week, this is the liquidation of the wagnerites in

mali, and actually there is a report that the main intelligence agency and our military specialists could somewhat spoil the russian plans on the territory of syria, but can we say that the hunt for russian influence continues in such interesting for russia? and to what extent is wagner's group, or what is left of it, even about this influence? you see, this is definitely about the russian influence. however, the fact remains that after the defeat of the wagnerites in russia. they cannot re-establish themselves as an effective military force in africa and the middle east, and this is what happened in small, large numbers of lives, after such, i would say, ambitious people announced that now they will come to mali and restore order there, i say once again that there is no real opportunity to be competitors for

that wagner, who was... you are beautiful, but these people no longer have that this structure fell apart, the russians wanted to create an african corps on its basis in the structure of the russian ministry of defense, of course, and that is why the russian deputy minister of defense, general yunus bekerkurov, went around the african capital and said that now, instead of wagner, there will be the african corps with the same people, and don't worry, it will just be, so our interaction is not within the framework of a private company, within the framework of a state structure, so it turned out that... it all doesn't work like that, so, after all, that wagner , which was created, which in one way or another was an independent structure in terms of the autonomy of its actions in african countries and its own interaction with the local leadership, had more capabilities, including both logistical and intelligence, than what was left of it, as you say, so of course, yes

everything must be paid for the fact that prigozhin began to scare putin with his actions. a really enhanced opportunity within this private military company, formally private, it is clear that there was budget money, the management was autonomous, so it no longer works, when it becomes part of the state bureaucracy, it does not work as a mercenary mechanism. mr. vitaly, let's take a short break with you now for our audience and come back to the discussion in a few moments. there are discounts. until independence day on bionorm detox 10% in pharmacies plantain, bam and saver long-acting cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. with dolgit cream, you can even walk. dolgit is the only yellow cream for joint pain. there are discounts until independence day on motorex tablets, 10% at psyllanyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. there are discounts until independence day on trok sevazingel, 15% in

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negotiations between the russian federation and ukraine, we must understand that the russian federation is hardly interested in them right now, maybe mr. vitaliy will correct me in this statement now, but when i look at the map and realize that every day they have... sure advancing at the front and invading new ukrainian territories, this is hardly indicative of their desire to take some kind of break in order to recover, everything is okay with us, with them, we understand less that at the political level, our leadership must declare its readiness to of the negotiation process, because otherwise, what kind of communication can there be with our partners, and this is exactly what the representatives of the president's office talked about this week. mr. vitaly, how are you, brother? well, you know, i don't think that russia's readiness or unreadiness for peace talks connected with the fact that it is advancing there or not yet advancing somewhere. i have said many times that i have absolutely no confidence that they

would have negotiated peace even if we had reached the borders of the first year. because peaceful people, the need for peace talks with ukraine arises when it is really exhausted, but they are afraid of the occupation of their own territory. and when the whole war takes place on the territory of another country, well, almost the whole, then. with some exceptions that only confirm this rule, well, the entire war takes place on the sovereign territory of ukraine, all these cities, whose warehouses are exploding there, where russian missiles, ukrainian missiles are flying, these are all cities on ukrainian territory, they are simply occupied, there are, of course , fortunately now cases when russian arsenals are hit directly in russia, but this it is difficult to call it a mass phenomenon that destroys russia there. and changes the lives of its citizens and its military potential, well, it seems to me that everyone is clear, therefore the question of

russia's interest in peace, for me, it primarily depends on the level of russia's understanding that it will not take over all of ukraine, but only will be exhausted in this enthusiasm, because all this struggle for territories is a struggle for a bridgehead, you know, if it were part of it. ukraine included some territories that russia would really consider its own, but crimea is russian land, we have to seize it, and this is a demand for us, and this is a claim for us, but if ukraine stops and stops claiming crimea, let it even its territory is recognized as international, we immediately, we have nothing to fight with it, we will fight for crimea, but russia is fighting for ukraine, not for crimea. she doesn't neither crimea, nor donetsk, nor luhansk, nor kherson, nor zaporizhia regions are needed, these are simply convenient territories, because from there it is easier to attack other ukrainian territories, there you can mobilize

people who are of no interest to anyone in russia, and the more such regions if russia seizes, it will be easier from putin's point of view to occupy the rest of the country's territory. so the question arises, what are the negotiations about. i have such and such a statement all the time, i can repeat it. that ukrainians believe that there are putin's conditions regarding territories of neutrality, that we should recognize the russian status of donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhzhya regions and crimea, declare neutrality, and carry out de-nezification, although no one knows what it is, but i think i know what it is, that it is simple the destruction of all political parties, organizations that support the idea of ​​an independent ukraine and people who advocate for it. if not extermination, then exile, and we do not want to fulfill these conditions, and that is why the war continues, but as soon as we say, you know, we are ready, here

take these territories, as many are already starting to say, let's give them these territories, let them choke on them and we will live peacefully, well, are you sure that this is what putin needs, this is an exclusive requirement, for what, because if some ukrainian president... says: okay, i sign such an agreement, recognize crimea, donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhia regions as part of russia, what is that? peace is destabilization. some part of people say: hooray, the war is over. some part of the people say, traitor, sold out ukraine, sold ukrainian land. if this part of people will still be in the army, and if two parts of these people will be in the army, then great. civil war. verit here is what russia needs, i.e. all of russia's proposals, they are not aimed at ending the war, at destabilizing ukraine. if you look at this story through russian eyes,

you will understand what it is. that's right, that's right, you have a territory that you consider yours, it's not donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhzhia and crimea, it's all of ukraine, the population there is disloyal and simply dangerous, so you need to clear this territory of this population so that, firstly , it flees, and secondly, if it does not flee, let it fight itself, let them do the dirty work with their own hands, kill each other, but for this they should adopt such a... which would create among themselves two armies of people who are ready to fight with each other, not with russia to the end, i.e. patriots who are for an integral ukraine with traitors who just want to end the war, let's destroy at the beginning, and then traitors to the patriots, fine, and then we enter an empty territory from which everyone has already fled, there is no state, and the west tells us, listen, well, if this is the situation. well

, it's bad, of course, but what can you do, well, the ukrainians have not maintained stability, well, we need to somehow stabilize this region, let's give peacekeeping forces, well, something like that, well, the russians say such peacekeeping forces, our troops are already near lviv, well, well, near kamenets podilskyi, here's the whole story, so they 're not counting on peace, they're counting on a multi-year one. on exhaustion, secondly, on what they will be able to absorb ukraine in some kind of trap, which will simply facilitate destabilization. destabilization is a lot of different things, you can blow up an electric station, you can create disasters, ecological and technological, you can create a political disaster, and if we understand all this, we just need to understand that there will be no real negotiations, not because we don't want them or we don't want them, but because there are no platforms for them, ugh, i... all the time

, i just ask the ukrainians to calm down, not to look for a way out of the hopeless situation, because as soon as we stop to look for a way out, we will immediately start living a normal life, in a war, in a crisis, as normal, not to wait for the war to end in two or three weeks, in two or three months, in two or three years, but simply to understand that this this is the natural state of affairs for this territory for the future, well, many countries live like this, ukraine is not the first and not the last. if we understand this, we will eliminate the possibility of destabilization of ukraine, we will take away from russia this hope that ukraine will simply collapse under the pressure of all these circumstances, and in principle, we will create the conditions for the war ended earlier, because if putin knows that they will not capitulate, destabilize, not go to some decisions that he expects, and will be able to get the

front line. then this means that it is necessary to start negotiations on a cease-fire, and if we are all the time in hysterics and in anticipation of events that will not happen anyway, well, simply will not happen, because they cannot, then we are giving our enemy hope, that if not in the 25th year, then in the 35th he will decorate, that is, in fact, ukrainian hysteria and ukrainian expectations of what is not will come true, this is the key... to the continuation of the war, the key to its end is in the russian pocket, the key to its continuation is in the ukrainian pocket, the first thing i want to do is for the ukrainians to fulfill this key from their own pockets and live with an empty pocket , knowing that we have nothing to offer our enemy, except peace and acceptance of this war situation as the norm of ukrainian existence for the coming years, and this makes it possible. from the fact that

the war has a chance to end, and there are no other chances in nature, at the negotiating table this one the war will not end. thank you, mr. vitaly, a sobering analysis from vitaly portnikov in the saturday political club, my name is khrystyna yatskiv, we will say goodbye to you on this, see you next saturday. the pride of muscovites, the sunflower burned, and rostov on the dune sank, what other enemy targets were destroyed by our f-16 defenders in ukraine, will the long-awaited birds change the situation on the front line, and the scandalous tender, who was going and how.