here because sydzimpin tells president zelensky, but when you supply two parts from which you can assemble a weapon, it is still the same as supplying a weapon, and this is what confuses me much more, you know, because in that, that the west will not cancel any sanctions against russia, i think you understand, i understand, i will tell you more, karamurza karamurza and yashin also understand, they are experienced people, they are all fine. understand, they say this not for the west, but again for this conditional russian electorate, which they once had, in their opinion, may appear, although i doubt it, uh, but at the same time, this confuses me even more, because i see no reason to believe that some such times will not come for the russian economy as a result of this vicious circle. for them to really

think, listen, we're getting to the bottom of this and we need to end the war because we're not going to survive. we understand very well that even if the war is suspended, no sanctions against russia will be lifted, this is a complex mechanism. the jackson wenick amendment, famously forbidding access to the soviet union, high -tech products, was introduced. under president nixon, but it was canceled already after against for each specific former soviet republic already ours in the 21st century, when everyone has already forgotten why it was introduced, and this topic that was connected with it, it was free emigration of jews from the soviet union simply did not exist anymore, the soviet union did not exist, the ban on the departure of jews did not exist, nothing existed, except for the amendment, the same will happen with these sanctions, the war will end. there will be some agreements,

trump will become president, that if trump becomes president, it does not matter who will become president, it will not be in this term, i tell you again, karamurza may already be president, not trump, and the amendment will be effective in times in the russian federation, during yeltsin's time, this amendment was simply suspended for a year every year, it was not canceled, so... why is trump here? at this moment, trump can lie somewhere in the grave for a long time, not because he will be killed, but because he will already be 100 years old, so let him will live to 120, so to speak, but he is not eternal either, so it does not matter, that is , some sanctions can be canceled, but again, it must go through the congress, agree, you understand what the cancellation of sanctions is, that is in the sanctions of the european union, they were adopted unanimously, right?

they can be lifted unanimously if one country, notional poland or notional estonia, says, sorry, we don't think they deserve it yet, there will be no lifting of the sanctions, unless in the united states congress votes to lift the sanctions, there will be no no cancellation of sanctions, and this is a whole, whole story for ten years, everyone in russia understands this perfectly well, that there will be no more cancellation of sanctions, that this is not related to the war at all, they can there. to demand something, conditionally speaking, remove the limits on the sale of our oil so that we can sell it at a higher price, it can be, the limits can be canceled, or give the possibility of safe transportation of some products that are not subject to sanctions, let's say there agricultural products, something else, this everything can be, but it does not solve anything finally, what is really important is the truth, it is the possibility of unfreezing russian assets. that's what they might be interested in, because it's

rough money, relatively speaking, and it's not sanctions, it's just assets that are not issued to them, but they are there, and they're there, they don't get profits from them, but they 're there , they can talk about it, but it is not only a small part of the sanctions policy, but the real sanctions policy is financial operations, for banks. this is a ban on the sale of a whole range of goods there, which, this is cooperation with various companies, you know you understand that if such a number of firms, concerns, banks, if it has already left, then it will take 20 years for it to return, well, again, khrystyna, well , remember how many of these western firms came to ukraine without any sanctions here, in 1991, this communist collapsed...

a market economy began and what, we have western concerns, not really, we have, i apologize, we still have what year now, 20204? we still don't have starbucks, still, this is just a simple example, uh, we still don't have ikea on the scale in which this concern exists in europe, i'm just telling you, just calling, so to speak, uh, the brands are understood by the ordinary consumer, i'll allow myself a little trailer, many economists say that starbucks and specifically... ikea has certain considerations regarding the market in ukraine and the ability to pay of ukrainians regarding their products, as well as whether we have competitors of the appropriate level as well, well, but this is just a trailer, many small central european countries, where smaller market and where less

opportunities, they have always opened these e- brands, and this is just one example, of course, the reasoning is correct, but now ugh. a company that needs to return to russia after years of war, sanctions and so on, and this company also begins to calculate, why not return, and what is the matter with the market, and are they able to buy, and is this not a risk, but here we are we will return, and after three years we will be told again that we must leave, we are introducing sanctions, you cannot continue to work there, it might be better to wait 15 years and not return anywhere, why would we to go back there, we'd rather go to mexico than to go to a country that just... just started a war, is there a guarantee that it won't start it in a year? who will give us a guarantee? is this a business? that's why i'm telling you again, no one will go back there, this train has already left, you see, there are certain brands returning to ukraine, because they can

afford to come back and come and go, because it's not related to their reputation, on the contrary, it shows what kind of people they are. i would say humanistic, that they are ready to work for even a country in which there is a war market, and with russia everything will be completely different, so no, that's all, you know, as they say, dead is dead, and in this regard, i'm not interested in this at all, i'm saying, i'm interested in something else, how the russian economy can last for a long time to survive when it becomes part of the chinese economy, when chinese brands, chinese investments, chinese participation in the military-industrial complex and in the consumer market, well, that’s it, the russians themselves did not expect this, they thought that when the sanctions would begin, they this was being prepared, being prepared, i would say, to you many decades, when president putin first became president, after a few years he began to tell the oligarchs that they should withdraw

money to russia or to some friendly countries, that he does not guarantee money to anyone in the west, why did they keep part of their assets there, this is another question, but i have heard such conversations since 2000. and lo and behold, now in this very situation, we see that in russia they were preparing, preparing, decided that when there will be western sanctions, they will refocus on the countries of the global south, diversify risks, and refocused only on one china, exactly one china, and this is a really serious problem, mr. vitaliy, what... regarding the events in the middle east, i also cannot help but ask, this week culminated in the elimination of the leaders of hamas and hezbollah, as for hezbollah, this happened after 12 children died just on a sports ground in israel, we definitely understand the scale

of the humanitarian disaster in the gaza strip, but again we return to the topic of what started with terrorists. approaches proxy armies of iran in the first place. the liquidation of the hamas vetashka took place in tehran at the moment when the newly elected president was taking the oath of office in this country. one of the high-ranking diplomats from the european commission was even sent to this event, which is very interesting. and the first question for you: surely you shouldn't hope that the effectiveness of the activities of these terrorist groups will change in any way, due to the fact that... one of the leaders died there, right? no, wrong, and i was a very serious figure, and if true, what else the death of mohamed deif, the leader of the military wing of hamas, these are quite serious blows to the structure, ugh, and this, by the way, can seriously

change the very situation in the negotiations on the termination, because there is information that ismail hanyaka was just trying to not disrupt these all the time , first of all, because he was always connected very strongly with the iranians and with the russians, he was the first to be put in moscow from the hamasites even when he was the prime minister of the palestinian authority. and they invited him there, plus his contacts with iran, secondly, to him just such a political position, he was considered soft there from the point of view of relations with israel in general, but it is not clear what this softness was, we saw how he behaved on october 7 in the 23rd year, when he he was just happy that those children and women were killed, but at the same time, in the approaches to stop exactly the military... actions, he turned out to be a very tough negotiator who refused the final result all the time, and those hamatovs who are in the gas,

well , let's say they were already ready for certain conditions, and he kept breaking them, so what i suppose just his death could change the situation if, if it doesn't lead to a bigger escalation in terms of the exchange of blows between iran and israel there, that's another story, so no, it's the zmi, and that's basically what you understand , if you destroy the entire politburo of hamas, in terms of effectiveness, these... organizations have hurt a lot, but if there is no longer haniya, there is no deif, khaled mashal remains yahisenvar of such quite serious people, mahabed bu marzouk, but he does not play such a prominent role, this is a problem for them, haniya is generally a big problem, he is a person with a huge number of political connections, and the level of connections that he had and trust in him, no one from hamas has ever had, international, i mean. and this is the man who was said to have a fortune of 4 billion dollars there,

which he could also use for tamas, so this is not a joke, but there is another story, another story, which the iranians certainly cannot but answer, they just scared, no one understands how it happened, because at first they said about rocket fire, now they are talking about a certain slyardian, well, what kind of slyardian is he and that he killed two people only in... a big house, where there are many people, already there, you know, that next to the room, hania was, there was, there were apartments where the leader of another terrorist organization, the islamic jihad, lived, and nothing happened to him at all, so something happened there in this very room of the khaniya, and if it is true what the mossad used. employees of the security system, this security service, senior leaders of iran, which is subordinate

to the command of the islamic guard corps revolution, you can imagine how ayatollah khamenei and other iranian leaders feel, that is, if their bodyguards can participate in planting bombs in their own residences, then who will protect them? that's why they're scared in the literal sense of the word, it just shows that they have no security, that... they're a stickler for the state, by the way, do you remember that the russians wanted to bribe zelenskyi's security guards, do you remember? yes, well, we learned about it, but the iranians did not, so why are we saying that ours is not always effective state, but right away it turned out that we have a more efficient state than iran, imagine that someone comes to us as a guest of some protocol ceremony, and he is killed in his own room, you can imagine the level of shame in general. well, that happened in iran, but again, if they're talking about how they should respond, what's important is how they should

respond, their idea is that they should respond to israel in a way that israel never does this again in tehran. i am not even asking for a story, but about tehran. israel could not 10,000 times over to do it in qatar, where khanya lives, but they don't want to spoil relations with qatar, that is, to put qatar in such a situation, and here. with iran you can, well, but how can they respond, what can they do after one of their attacks, the latest one, failed, that's also the number one question, yeah, and we 'll see for sure, because from the what will be the iranian strike, what will be its effectiveness depends on the israeli response and the further development of events, what else is the problem here? previous iranian attack turned out to be completely useless, because iranian

drones and unmanned aerial vehicles destroyed the airspace of countries neighboring israel. but now, will all the arab states be ready to participate in this operation, when their palestinian street, the street will tell them, but iran wants to take revenge for... the khania of such a hero, and you do not give it to them, traitors of our cause, that is, now america will have to start again on new, i would say, foundations. to create a coalition against iran, when it comes not only to iran, but also to the palestinians, who have always considered hania their the leader there, well, i repeat again, this is the person who won the last, the first last parliamentary elections in the palestinian authority, became the prime minister, the latest sociological polls showed that if

there were elections for the president of the palestinian authority, more than 70% of the people voted for hanya , by the way, this... says a lot about the mood of the civilian population, true, so there is a question here, how it will develop, in principle , we are on the verge of a possible major war in the region, it is true, that is, mr. vitaly, if we talk about the previous this massive strike missiles and drones from iran on israel, then, by the way, many analysts said that a similar strike was such that it could be repelled. because at that time there was no relevant conjunctural situation where iran would be directly interested in inflicting a crushing defeat on israel. now this situation with the basis for the future answer has completely changed. i understood you correctly. the snakes think that then there will be some kind of special strike so that israel can repel it. iran, it seems, simply did not count

that his missiles and drones will not reach israel and will be destroyed in the airspace otherwise. countries. this, by the way, is what we tell our allies about all the time, that if they shot down russian missiles and drones in their airspace or from their airspace, it would be much easier for us. in terms of our security. that is, this happened to israel. now the question is not what the iranian attack will be, because i don't think they were specifically planned to be weak. you remember the number of missiles and drones that were directed. against israel, it's an unprecedented number, it's actually, i think, the biggest drone attack in human history. now, it may be that iran does not have that many arsenals for such a strike, that's true, but it can count on a country, or

several countries, through the territory of which all this will be flown, not to be ... shot down, that's the danger, and then it will be more difficult for the israeli air defense system than it was during the first attack, and if it is more difficult, if not everything is shot down, if something hits for some purposes, israel will certainly carry out a massive bombing of iran, see that israel has long been looking for an excuse to, say, destroy iran's nuclear facilities completely, and then a big war will begin. to what extent is putin interested in this great war in this region and not only here, because you and i discuss from program to program that it is in his interests to ignite and increase the number of local conflicts around the world, well , it may not be a local conflict anymore, to be honest, but he is definitely interested,

because such a big war. or on the eve of the presidential elections in the united states, it completely focuses all its attention on the middle east, completely, once, twice, he really contributes to this, you saw that the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation condemned the murder of ismail khan, right away, but what is this haniya is the leader of a terrorist organization, this organization is only now. since the 23rd year, it has killed peaceful residents of israel, taken women and children hostage, russia seems to condemn terrorism all the time, where does this come from? and this is even an effort not to prove to the palestinians, but to prove to iran that russia will be with him if he takes decisive action. this is the hocus-pocus of this

story: they are inciting and impressing iran . that they would agree with him no matter what he did. there is another factor, this is china. china also needs to strengthen its capabilities in the middle east. and by the way, you remember that a few days before the assassination of hanni and a week later, beijing held a completely unexpected meeting of the leaders of fathi hamas, and during this meeting, they signed a memorandum there on the creation of a national government of unity, i think that... nothing will be created, but the very fact of the appearance of such an organization, so to speak, in beijing, one of the other, and this idea says that beijing wants to play an important role in beijing, this was not hidden much when the last time united states secretary of state anthony blinken was in beijing, and on the same day he met with xi jinping, they were holding parallel talks

with a delegation of hamas, that's all, and they too might be interested in seeing something happen that would reduce the influence of the united states states, because as they calculate, if there is a war, the united states will help israel, and iran will act as an avenger for ismail haniya, then this is normal in the arab world. configuration and will give more space to china and russia, russia needs free hands in ukraine, china just needs it to strengthen, to whom it will benefit, that is absolutely clear. ugh, and finally, i would like to talk about such an effect. on the eve, in fact, of these vivid liquidations, the president of the united states, joseph biden, called on benjamin netanyahu, well, let's say, to be restrained and do not escalate when speaking. about operations in the gas sector, operations of the israel defense forces, and whether these successful, once again, eliminations of terrorist leaders

will play into netanyahu's hands in the eyes of virtually all of his partners, who are already calling for more restraint, but about his ratings and his reputation within the country, i think, can be discussed in a separate conversation, i think that just the ratings and reputation after these liquidations are not bad. the last, as you understand, yes, here, and we see that it is just the last time the rating netanyahu is increasing, israel always pursues such a policy that it usually has allied relations with the united states, but it never allows itself to dictate anything, it is not in the rules of israeli prime ministers to listen to american presidents there and do so, whatever the american president wants, the israeli policy is to convince the american president that... that israel's policy is in the interests of the united states, that's the approach, and by the way, that's what binyaminyaho said when he spoke from the floor of congress when he

said we protect ourselves and you from iran, first of all you, and this is a very important thesis that the congressmen heard, and then, listen, which is now of great importance to binjami, what biden tells him when he perfectly understands what he is already for. .. some time will talk with the new president of the united states, or with kamala harris, or with donald trump, and that is why he started not only with biden, but also with trump. and he understands very well that one more thing, that once the power in the united states changes, it will really be much more difficult for him to act without taking into account the position of the new american administration, because it will be a four-year administration. that's why they started him. therefore, if israel wants to achieve a final victory over hamas, it needs to act as soon as possible, let's say february 2025 to march, because then it will be more difficult

to move in the direction that the prime minister considers necessary for himself as more favorable, so this is all such a fairly simple story, in principle, mr. vitaly, another interesting region and a very... an interesting country in the context of the fact that, well, first of all, it is also is in the orbit of the interests of the russian federation, and regularly, in the person of its leaders, supports everything that concerns russia, does not support resolutions that refer to russian aggression against ukraine, well, we can actually continue to talk further, we are talking about venezuela, which is also in the election process, as i understand it, is still there, although we are already talking about... post-elections, and there are people who go to protest actions, there is maduro, who is not ready to give in, there is maduro, who challenges

elon musk to some duels. and what is the situation for you now in venezuela and in this region, given the above. you see, everything is very easy there. maduro lost this election, as lukashenko lost the 2020 election . the position won, but now everything will depend on how effective the power structure is, and how much the power structures and the army will support meda, and how massive the protests will be, if it turns out that these protests are not massive, if it turns out that there are not enough people in order to prevent the security forces from acting, then of course the situation... will simply end with maduro continuing the next term as president of venezuela without any particular problems. if the protests increase, then the regime will collapse. now,

what is beneficial to putin? of course it is important for putin that maduro stays, but not just stays, but stays under sanctions for, because the last year there, a year and a half after the russian attack on ukraine, many considered it necessary for venezuela to start being an alternative to russian oil, and these agreements between the united states and venezuela began to be reached, but the condition of these agreements was fair elections in all of these elections were not held fairly, even if there were some fair elections, votes were cast and counted dishonestly, i mean, so what can happen? the united states will again have to impose sanctions on venezuela, again announce that they consider the president not the person who controls the power, but the person who won the election for real, and in this way venezuela, venezuelan oil will remain in venezuela, well, that's it , what it is necessary to sweat so that venezuela depends on

russian support, so that... it is not a russian competitor on the oil market, so that maduro can link his future only with him, that is, he was such a venezuelan lukashenko, so here it is a simple situation, but everything will depend actually from the venezuelan people, from their ability to respond to this challenge. it is very interesting, in fact , the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi touched on this topic in his address on the x social network, reports about the presence of russian mercenaries in gnera in venezuela together with the government troops, wherever these thugs go, they bring death and destabilization, and i can't help but also note a number of events this week, this is the elimination of the wagnerites in malia, and actually there is a report that the headquarters intelligence and our military specialists could somewhat spoil the russian plans on the territory of syria, but can

we say what is going on... in terms of russian influence in such locations of interest to russia, and to what extent is the wagner group or what is left of it generally about this influence? do you understand it is definitely about russian influence, but the fact remains that after the defeat of the wagnerites in russia, they cannot recover as an effective military force in africa and the middle east, and this is what happened in mali, the death of many people. after such, i would say, ambitious announcements that now they will come to mali and restore order there, i say once again that these people no longer have any real opportunity to be competitors for uh, that wagner who was in prigozhano's time that this structure crumbled, the russians wanted to create an african corps on its basis in the structure of the ministry of defense of russia,

of course, and that is why... the deputy minister of defense of russia, general yunus bevkurov, went around the african capital and said that now instead of wagner, there will be an african corps with the same people, and you are not worry, it will simply mean our interaction is not within the framework of a private company within the framework of a government structure, but it turned out that it does not work like that, so that after all the wagner that was created, which was somehow an independent structure from the point vision the autonomy of his actions in african countries and his own interaction with the local leadership, he had more opportunities, including logistical and intelligence, what was left of him, as you say, so of course you have to pay for everything and what putin began to be frightened by prigozhin with his really enhanced opportunity within the framework of this private military company, formally privately, it is clear that there was budget money, this leadership was autonomous, so it no longer works. when it

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