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saturday - 17:10, sunday 18:15 at espresso. hundreds of thousands of square meters of damaged property, apartments, houses that need to be rebuilt, about the situation with reconstruction in different regions of ukraine, about people's rights, opportunities and personal experience. this is what olga's house looked like last year, and this is what it looks like now. i am not spending money at the moment. about how to unite the country in the process of recovery in the project. urban reconstruction and development program, every saturday at 18:30 at espresso. she saw something that is hard for even a doctor to remember. she knows that there is a lot of pain and a sea of ​​children's tears. in the first days of the occupation of buchi, she and her husband provided medical care there. now she helps wounded soldiers. recover and get back on their feet,

engages in their rehabilitation. today i have as a guest the national legend of ukraine, a doctor, a pediatrician, and today a rehabilitator, olga svyst. olya, i congratulate you, today i have a guest. congratulations irina. very interesting way and very, probably, difficult, because if you imagine him from a pediatrician of a private clinic to a mobilized military medic. i want you to share with our viewers your experience, the war experience that you already have, and i want to start with february 24 , 2022, where were you at that time and how did you end up, in fact, in buch? on february 24, we were at home, we lived in the city of irpin, this city is located... next to the city of bucha, and my

daughter was sick, at that time she had a high temperature, and accordingly i did not sleep at night, and i probably heard for the first time how a rocket whistled over our city, and some 30-40 minutes later in the medical community, in one of the states, i read that the first rockets landed at the boryspil airport, and my first words were when i woke up my husband that the war had begun. wake up well, of course, as a mother, i wanted to protect my children and give them safety first of all, but i am a doctor, so accordingly, in the morning, a nanny came and my husband and i went to our workplaces. it was a difficult way to the city of kyiv, because the city was already being evacuated, it was a long one dear, and at that moment i took upon myself such a shared responsibility, to accept children at our reception department.

clinics, because the polyclinics were closed and , accordingly, the flow of children was in the reception department, and here i was at the pediatrician’s appointment, probably on my last working day , e. where, they are all sick, and i had to make a decision then, how to plan their treatment, whether with an examination in a few days, or it is unknown when, and already at that moment, i understood that it was unknown when, that is why the treatment was prescribed a little more than usual, somewhere around lunchtime i received a call from the military mother that i was being called... to be mobilized as a military medic, i had to show up with my things within the day , i asked for time, a day to take the children to a safer place to their parents, that's how my first day of the full-scale invasion actually began, but in the evening,

when i got home and entered the house, the shelling began, accordingly , for the first time, we were with the children went down to the basement from the 12th floor, it was too much of a shock. but i also wanted to protect the psyche of my children, and when they asked me son, mother, what is it, i found a solution for myself that it was a game of who will go down to the basement first, and when we went down to the basement, i realized that my children are in pajamas, i only have their documents with me, which i managed to take, and i understood that it was a basement, it was cold, and i should go home to get some things. this is the first mistake, because in principle we were preparing and knew that something would happen, and it was worth making that alarming suitcase, now i am analyzing it, what should have been done, but at that moment i calmed down and went up to the 12th floor without using the elevator according to the

previous recommendations, which were given to the civilian population, collected those alarming suitcases and the next morning tried to evacuate children from the city of irpinja. from kyiv region, we managed it, it was a long way, and already on february 26 we returned to the city of irpin, and literally in an hour we made a decision that we would, once again, upon request, in the medical community, join the doctors who receive wounded, the first civilians and military, that's how we ended up in buch, can you tell us about those first days of training, what did you do there and who exactly did you help? er, i had the idea that this is a gray area, that is, there is a front line where active battles are being fought, and there are hospitals, and no one will touch the medics, that is, it is a safe place, the wounded will just come to us, but later we understood , that this

is not the case at all, because when they first heard automatic rounds under the windows, convoys were passing through the nearby streets. heavy equipment and we could see it and even count it, fighter jets were flying over us and we saw a landing party from enemy helicopters, of course, this notion dissipated immediately, we were engaged in providing assistance to all those who needed it, both civilians and from the tro group, and with the armed forces, who received wounded from during the defense of the airport. there were also injured children, since the hospital did not work with children, because it was not a children's hospital, so i dealt with children, both injured and those who simply had an illness and needed medical help, and they ended up in this institution it was the first time i came across

gunshot and explosive wounds in children, and i had no experience before that, so we were looking for some kind of network, and i called... my colleagues were interested in how to act so as not to harm, how to make the right decisions in the treatment of children . it was the first time i saw the amputation of limbs in children, and i had to find words to talk to the children, to explain, it was difficult. i remember one girl, sofia, she lost her mother and her cat during the evacuation. and lost her upper limb, lost her arm, she was in a ward where there was a window, and the first thing she asked was to close the window, can i go to a smaller room,

of course we arranged it, moved to a smaller room, blocked the window, the children were afraid, we explained what was working the armed forces of ukraine, which protect us. trying to protect them from the terrible truth that we all find ourselves in, from this reality, and in one of the conversations with sophia, holding her... hand, she cried and said that i was riding, i want to continue it, and at that moment i promised her that you would do it, you you will continue, we will leave here, you will have a hand protest, and you will be able to do it, i know for sure that you will be able to, and so looking ahead, everything really worked out for sofia, sofia survived, evoked with us from buchi, and she got prosthetics abroad, and even dreamed of writing a book, and she wrote it and published it, it's called don't

be a disaster, there were also other children, you continue to communicate with sofia, of course, we keep in touch with virtually everyone who was then in buchi and whom we evacuated, especially with all the children, together with by their relatives, accordingly, we are very proud of their achievements. there were also children who simply had various acute conditions that needed medical attention, and i am proud of those parents who, despite the fact that it was extremely dangerous to move around the city after 5 o'clock, made the decision to save the children's health and reached to the hospital but this is something that probably everyone experiences

in ukraine, when one part of your relatives is at home, and with the other you have to go to another city, and at this time you have danger over you, bullets are flying, now and rockets are flying, and now we provided them with emergency aid, stabilized the child's condition, and they cannot be left, they don't want to, they want to go home, because other people are waiting for them. they are worried about them, this family was also evacuated, a few days later they wrote to us that they had left, everyone survived, it was very happy news for us, of course, although we were still under occupation at that time, patients, civilians, wounded who tried to find food or water and were shot in the street or thrown with grenades. that step, in us a mechanism was worked out over time, who

receives patients at the reception department, who calls a team of surgeons, who collects information, whether there are relatives or not, and we worked in this format for about two weeks. did you manage to save everyone, who exactly did you save, and through this evacuation, what was it like? it was not the first time. that is, we were notified of the first day of evacuation, but i took care of the children for the most part, and my understanding was that on the first day you should not go, and this evacuation probably will not happen. a lot of people gathered in the square, and the planned route, the green corridor, didn't happen, that is, the buses didn't come, and it was terrible, we didn't collect the children. because we suspected that it would not happen, we did not drag them, for that day they stayed in

the hospital building, but many people were around in the square, and of course they wanted to stay here, either in the hospital or near the city council, few wanted to go back to the cellars for the night, well , such a great disappointment when you almost survived and left, and you have to go back to that cellar again, but on the next day, after all , the buses arrived on time, we managed to have our own bus for the wounded, that is, we had two buses with the wounded, and we started moving in a column with everyone, of course we instructed everyone that if some shelling, then we have to lean as low as possible to the floor of the bus, i understand that this may not... save us, but glass is glass, and open windows, increased danger,

er, we had such a package for each patient with medication because we didn't know how long the evacuation would take and each of these patients received serious treatment with antibiotics, accordingly everyone had their prescription sheet and these medicines, we were also given a warning against hypothermia, that is, we had blankets, because there were no clothes even accordingly. everyone, but they dressed from what was little, took blankets, in principle, no one froze except me, because i must have had adrenaline, i was very cold during the evacuation, and here... turning to the first turn at the intersection on the bus as if the automatic queue passed, such a sound, accordingly we all fell to the floor, but then exhaled, it was a burning truck, a military vehicle, and accordingly, glass or the remains of some other parts simply passed through

the seams of our bus, and we continued to move in a column. once again we were stopped on the zhytomyr highway, our route was changed, because the route that was supposed to go to the left was destroyed, there were blown up cars, there was a fire, so we stood for a while on this road, on an open road, it was scary, at that moment i was forming... a list to send to the welfare clinic, who can accept the most difficult patients for evacuation, we had seven of the most difficult patients, i will be grateful for the rest of my life to my colleagues, who immediately responded and said: we will take all the most difficult ones, and that is , when we were standing, when we were driving, we had a clear plan, where we these two

buses of the wounded, which hospital we will go to and who will be able to take care of them, and actually who... will take care of the wounded children, enemy tanks passed by us, we really did not know how it would all end, but eventually we still got to the evening , reached already ukrainian land, under ukrainian flag, you know, my first feelings are that when i get off the bus, i was in a white coat, although i understood that this did not give any guarantees. absolutely, but it still defined me as a medic, and when we got home to the e-evacuation point, i approached her ambulance, the ambulance brigade , i said: i have 20 wounded people there, i need 10 cars there, although b to

evacuate them, you have two here, i say, take half, they say, we can’t, this is our point, we can’t move to provide aid, and we had to move quickly, this it was already evening, they are tired, they need to be given medicine, it is cold, it is the month of march, and i approach a policeman, i say, can you help me escort the buses so that we go through kyiv through checkpoints freely and quickly, they are waiting for us in the city of kyiv in such to such and such hospitals, they agreed on our route. and we, accompanied by the police, drove through the entire part of kyiv, where we were already at the point of transfer of patients from our regular bohdan buses to specialized medical transport. actually, that's how we got there patients were admitted to various hospitals, and patients were admitted to the regional hospital, and

were admitted to dobrobut, and were admitted to the 17th hospital. olya, here is this... your experience that you just talked about, the experience that you got already during the war, how did it help you now in the rehabilitation of the military? er, i would say that it was the beginning, er, the beginning of the formation of me as a different doctor, at that moment, having a call with the military and having the experience of the occupation in buchi from various kinds of trauma. and making quick decisions, that was the beginning of why i'm in rehabilitation, for the first time i saw children with amputations, i saw people with amputations, with injuries of the spinal cord, chest, combined injuries, and i understood that i want to be

in this direction and help them, that is, you yourself chose this direction of rehabilitation, you decided so that you will got there at first, i had a place of service in a military unit, as the head of the medical service. and my work there was a little different. i had experience in providing emergency care in civilian settings. we went through it every six months in our clinic, it was a rule that we had emergency care skills. however, in military medicine it is completely different. and one of my areas of work was also to master the provision of assistance in tactical medicine according to military protocols. but over time, all the same , my fate turned out to be such that i got into the field of military rehabilitation, and now i have been working in this direction for the second year, and

it seems to me that i am in my place, this is the second year you have been working, and what can you say in general about this direction, what are the main challenges you face face every day, if we talk specifically about rehabilitation, the main challenge... these are our soldiers, these are ukrainians, these are our boys and girls who defend our borders and our freedom, and the main challenge is how to quickly restore them, how to return them to society , or how to return them to the place of service, however, the vast majority of injuries are quite complex, and the rehabilitation process is long, and given the nature of the injuries, not all boys can return to military service, accordingly, one of the main challenges is not only mine, but globally

us as ukrainians, it is the integration of veterans, not only veterans, but people who suffered from the war in ukraine, into society, and to ensure that they understand that they are extremely important people in our society, and we owe them great gratitude. to create comfortable conditions for them, now we have many barriers, and this is not only in rehabilitation, but in general in moving around the city, yes, well, for example, a military serviceman, or just a person with reduced mobility who moves in a wheelchair, and or his daughter goes to school, that would be it it is very important for us as a society to create these conditions that... so that this veteran or just someone with reduced mobility can get to this school without obstacles without outside help,

or for example, the restroom, are we always people with reduced mobility, can we get to the restroom , no, not always, it is a problem, it is a problem not only in cities, it is also a problem in administrative institutions, in educational institutions. in medical institutions, now a textbook on barrier-free accessibility was recently announced, where various institutions were analyzed and issued specific recommendations as possible depending on what we're building or what we're changing, and that's important, for me, a veteran who gets around either in a wheelchair or with a... this is just a normal person to me, like anybody of us who occupy the same niche in society, and uh, i came to the

understanding that when i enter an institution, for the first time, what i automatically do is check with my foot whether there is a threshold, uh, you already estimate the width with your eyes door, passage to a coffee shop, for example. or whether or not a restroom is available person to get there, and what i would like to give is probably the advice to all of us, that you should look around your place of residence, your place of work, understand whether it is available to our veterans, probably because i work with veterans more, because so i'm focused more, of course, for the people who have been affected by the war, because the civilian population is also suffering a lot, we see a constant flight. constant information, the number of victims, this is also a difficult path. ola, i want to raise the topic of not only physical rehabilitation, but also psychological rehabilitation. of course, if

to talk about rehabilitation, it is not only physical rehabilitation, it is also rehabilitation of mental health, and its restoration, actually. a psychologist works in each rehabilitation program and in each rehabilitation team. there are two of them. as an important professional unit in the team, the psychologist is involved in working with the patient immediately, not when the patient enters the rehabilitation department, but also in the acute period. here it is important to understand, if we are not talking about professional help, that is, when you are not a psychologist, about the correctness... conversations with a patient with severe trauma, let's say, and there is a certain algorithm for how to conduct this conversation, and of course we receive training in

communication. a patient, but there are such very simple recommendations, they now exist in various areas of the internet, other social networks, when the military themselves say what not to do, well, for example, i understand you, it is not quite correct, we cannot understand exactly this person in this situation, because we are not that person, but we can say this: i am with you, i will walk your path with you. it is also very important to involve the family and not to forget that the family also suffers from the trauma that one of their relatives receives, and sometimes it is believed that when the wife or mother comes, she will provide that support, psychological and help, but this is not always the case. sometimes the mother or the wife or the child

also needs her... work with a psychologist, training, and actually, this is work with the whole family or with the whole family, not always fighters want to report their complex injuries to their relatives, in my experience there are guys who don't want to tell mom and they they delay this time as much as possible to inform their mother about their severe injury, but i have... he lost two hands, and he decided that he will inform his mother and actually meet her only when he receives prostheses and learns them to use, that is, he also worries about her psychological state, of course, and we respect his decision, he has a clear plan, we support it, help to implement it, er, so yes, it is very important, and the psychologist, it

is the key. moment, but we all need it to learn how to properly and correctly address veterans, or people who have suffered from war, and understand and understand that it is important for us and for those who receive this help, or this appeal, well, for example, it is not correct, if you say a stroller or a cart, that is, there is a defined correct concept of a wheelchair, not a blind person, but... a person with visual impairment, it is not difficult, we just need to ask ourselves, as ukrainians , do everything possible to be correct . yes, indeed, and it is true, as we have already said today, receiving new experience, the experience of war, we understand that there will still be many people with injuries, many people who will receive serious injuries, which may then lead to

future injuries. to the problems, yes, let's say, ola, as you can estimate, you are talking about the fact that for two years you have been in the rehabilitation of the military, as you can estimate, during these two years there have been some colossal changes, changes for the better, because we didn't have this experience before, that's right, this negative experience of war, and accordingly we didn't know what re... i would say it a little differently here, we knew what rehabilitation was in the military, and we just couldn't imagine it on such a scale, of course, the whole medical system, it's overloaded, but i can clearly say that i have experience communicating with foreign colleagues,

and... you can assess for yourself how rapidly the development of prosthetics in ukraine is progressing here. and how many foreigners want to come to us to exchange experiences and find common solutions in this or other areas of rehabilitation. of course we are we are developing we develop very quickly, there is such a thing as continuous professional. development and we use it, we also know how to analyze and make decisions, ukrainians also create new achievements in medicine, including, for example, i will tell such a short story, and about how incredible ukrainians are, for example, there are such fast protocols for definition.