non-standard methods there by various fast cars, motorcycles and so on, in order to get to their main goal to get to the position, but in general it is all sorted out, such an important element now is fpv, by means of which in general any vehicles, say is so impressed with the approach, that is why it is now changing the tactics of waging war, if... for example, with bakhmut with our experience, but they also currently have this link very much developed, well, let's put it this way, we can say that in some respect we have parity with them, and the cabs, what they bet on, they work with them regularly, and what about the hubs, how to counter them, how to counter in your direction, we understand that this is a very dangerous story, and repeatedly fighters from various other brigades , in the direction of blood from

the east, they talked about the fact that this is the biggest thing, one of the biggest, one of the biggest types of weapons that worry our military? well, let's say this, at the level of the ground brigade, it is difficult for us to comment on something like that, because it is more necessary to comment on the armed forces in ukraine, the forces air defense, because, after all, the land brigades are not intended for this, but... that the cabs are also intelligence work, and here really, this is a question in our plan, how well we were able to do all the actions so that the enemy could not determine the priority targets, determine them correctly, and so far we have not had any problems with this, that is, this is a matter of intelligence, their efficiency of use directly depends on this, and regarding their shooting down, well, here it is more, rather, before... still, i don't know, 16,

ppu, such a plan. mr. oleksandr, what is the current situation in principle with weapons in the armed forces forces of ukraine. now there was information that, apparently, up to 30,000 new soldiers are being mobilized a month. it is obvious that they are already undergoing a month of training and already the first units are being equipped, are there enough weapons for them, or something like that? elite brigades like yours have no problem with that? well, let's put it this way, we don't have any problems with this, we don't have such a large share of mobilized people that it is not difficult to comment on it for the whole country, but in general, the question here is more about what to do in time, and we do do it, but it is sometimes difficult, adhere to the exact amount of time training, and this is extremely important, well, that is, the weapon itself is. the problem is that the enemy does not give

us the opportunity to rest properly, and that is why our, let's say, training unit comes there, so that is engaged in, er, work, well, very seriously, so that we can keep up, but at the same time not to do it's external, to produce fighters, that is, so that they have a complete set and we adhere to it, but it's really difficult, because it's a very... big program, it needs to be given, and at the same time, rotations are also needed on the other hand, that is, all this is necessary so that everything is balanced. mr. oleksandr, well, you are also a representative of the brigade, which can be said to have followed a slightly different path than the path of general mobilization, including through recruiting . they were called from the third separate

assault brigade, please tell us in more detail how it happened, what the atmosphere was like there, because we remember how long the third assault brigade, for example, had to prove that these professionals, in their own right, professional military personnel can use western weapons, and to use them more efficiently. how is the third assault force being treated abroad now and how successful were these recruiting measures? well , let's say, first of all, that it was recruiting, it wasn't exactly recruiting events, because in most european countries, from the point of view of legislation, such direct recruiting cannot be carried out, so one of the important elements was precisely the meeting with civilians and ukrainians. question. ukrainians everywhere, because unity

is one of the most important points for us, and in general there are many myths about the war, the format of the in ukraine showed that such... communication improves, let's say, the understanding of civilians about the war, because in fact there are a lot of wifi, and we are talking about civilians in ukraine, and ukrainian civilians abroad, especially there, a large number of well myths were exposed not by understanding the war, let's say this, and this is at the level of everyday issues, you can say, communication with the soldiers, it helps a lot, in general it was successful, there were difficulties, we had to cancel eh... four cities, but here we , let's say, it was canceled because of security reasons, because well, it was a difficult decision, but when we realized that there was a real danger for civilians who would come

to our event, well, we decided that, well, we can't put them in such a situation at all, it's without options, in a situation where it could be dangerous for them, so we had to fight back, in principle. well, you just have to understand that in general, meetings with both civilian ukrainians and eu citizens are very warmly received by everyone, everything is very good, there is a share, let's say this, let's call it ultra-left, well, if it's simpler communists, well, just by the flags, i calculate it, and by the slogans, which, well, probably cooperates with russia, i don’t know, but they tried to carry out some actions, to disrupt there... like they planted a bomb in one of the places, well, it turned out not to be a bomb , but nevertheless , that is, they tried to blow up the events in any way, they looked like, well, if you remember, here are the rallies of the communists in ukraine, something, something like that, and accordingly

, their target audience there is also a little similar to what did we see there in the year 13, and i will also ask this, the past last week, there was a lot of talk about the story of... the scandal that arose in the 80th airborne assault brigade, which became public, many officers publicly supported their brigade commander, colonel ishkolov, and he was also supported by the open commander of the third assault brigade, andriy biletskyi , and this story doesn't have a bad taste because basically people were fooled, fooled, told that... he was going to get a raise, he didn't get a raise, maybe something will change this week, we'll see, but i'm just wondering what for you, how much the brigade commander is important for the brigade, how important is it that, for example, the third storm troop is headed by colonel biletskyi, and

not some person who can be appointed to you tomorrow, m, it is, let's say, in general. the combrich is a formative personality, that is, it is extremely important, here the question is the existence of the unit itself, and because the combrich is not only the management of the brigade, well, in such a way that this is how he is perceived, he sits there, the officers are there , the monitors are there, he tells whom and where to advance, that's not even the point, the point is that there is a duty officer there for that an officer, an operative, and it is far from always that akambrich deals with this, the chief of staff, even more so... kompricht is a person who builds a unit, that is, all its elements, it is like construction, well, maybe in some plan of some enterprise or factory, so that all the elements worked so that people were prepared, that people were dressed, that people, that's just that all moments of the functioning

of the brigade as a system are built on it, and the second important element is that, that's why people will go to battle, that's a clear decision. .. we have this one goal, but as cambrich presents this goal, how he presents the goal of some specific tasks, and this is very important, and the motivation of the soldiers from this is very important, therefore the role, let's say, of an individual as a combrig is extremely important, that is , a combatant, a combrig, certainly any officer, will be a leader, he important, and, but it is such a formative personality in the units, which is not... which is held, and therefore, let's say, if the fighters came to the unit with a specific combrig, they often look at it as one of the factors why they choose exactly this unit, or vice versa do not come, but about remain in it, for example, are not translated, then its removal can affect,

well, both the moral component, and i am already talking about the domestic one, that is, in fact, it is a form-forming personality that, well, identifies the brigade. personally, i often do not say that this is the case in all brigades, but in relation to the eighty, it is definitely the case, as well as the threes, thank you for the answer, and after such a philosophical... very topic, i would like to move on to the practical , how to join your brigade, i recently watched the materials of our colleagues from the information army, which the girls were trained there in the third assault brigade and talked about it in detail, how it happens, well, there is quite such an active training there. in fact, tell us how it goes and how you train the soldiers so that each of them eventually

becomes, well, very necessary and necessary at the front and performs the assigned tasks with quality, let's say this, first of all, our soldiers are mostly volunteers, and this, well, let's say, solves the question in many points, because a motivated fighter is... well, it's already 50% affairs, in general, now we have a very large number of drones, that is, our fighters are all those who pass, let’s say, bkp, they also undergo training on fpv drones, they use, let’s say, systems, well, i won’t be precise about that , in order to be game systems, in order to be battle simulations. that is, these are modern components, we are trying to develop them very strongly,

because they give an advantage in the quality and speed of learning, and there is definitely discipline there and, let's say, but on the one hand , the discipline is quite strict, but with the other side respect for each individual, this is the revelation of such a voluntary spirit, even, for example, not among volunteers. they take it over, and people who, for example , didn’t have much time there, maybe motivated to go to the army earlier, at the expense of the team, they assimilate it, let’s say, and become the same volunteers, but in their heads they have attention, and this is extremely important, that is , on the one hand, a modern component, on the other hand , this voluntary spirit for everyone, he decides, really does such that people who did not think at all... that they can not only be infantrymen, sometimes there is also a commander or some

narrow-profile specialist, they become them, that is, and then they themselves are surprised that they would not have expected this at all, i think that this factor they directly they influence in such a way that people reveal themselves in a way that they did not think about themselves, well, thank you very much, mr. oleksandr, oleksandr borodin, a senior officer of the third separate assault brigade, was with us, we talked about... about what is happening on front, about what is happening in the third storm brigades, the third assault brigade - these are rightfully the elite of the ukrainian armed forces, they mostly work only with volunteers, with contract workers, with recruiting, well, these are the parts where each soldier is really valued, and this is a big, big, big competition in fact, to get into, for sure, the third assault brigade, it is not so easy, recently there were such statistics that even though some units are so elite, ukrainian, they just have an excellent ratio

of losses in relation to the enemy, and this is achieved precisely by good command, in general, the command link is extremely important, as all the experts say now, that , first of all , all nato standards are not the caliber from which guns or rifles are fired, it is primarily a way of organizing work, and how teams are decided, to what extent there is independent decision-making, for example , the middle and lower ranks of the commanders, how competent and empowered these teams are to make decisions, this is extremely important, this is really the spirit of the free world, the free army that is winning from within the russian federation, we are now going to a short pause, next will be serhiy zgurets, our expert, director of the defense express information company, with whom we will talk about the situation at the front in general, and about the prospects, when will this war end? we will talk about it with serhii zgurets , including on our broadcast, so

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is trying to use the advantage there in manpower and equipment, talk about the fact that the war will end... this year, i think it is not overly optimistic expectations, but in any case, we hope that the dynamics of our mobile defense there, the use of the help of our partners, will help us, first of all, this year to stabilize the front line, to make a maximum impression on the enemy, the enemy, to prepare reserves is what our military-political leadership is currently working on, the situation does not look simple, but in any case we understand that the defense of the country. and the use of all resources for this is, well, the main task of the military-political and military leadership and our civil society. okay, then i will formulate the question a little differently: can russia achieve significant successes on the battlefield this year, which will push us to defeat? actually, i hope not, because even if we are there

let's take the dynamics of the last weeks there, where the enemy seems to have an advance and in weeks there are kilometers, not hundreds... as it was before, but even if we take this pace as a basis, we will see there, put it on the map and try to extrapolate for advancing along all areas of the front, based on these maximum political goals that the russian federation has declared there for us to reach the borders of the donetsk and luhansk regions, then in fact we are talking about at least 5-7 years to reach those borders even at the current pace, but it is so simplistic approach, anyway. we understand that even if the enemy has certain territorial gains, first of all where the advance is currently taking place in the pokrovsky direction, even if we leave certain areas of the front there, this means that the front will collapse, now we are really conducting a defensive offensive company there, this not simply in view of the limitations in manpower, in

ammunition, which we still have, but in any case i see no reason for any cardinal collapse of the front, or any panicky moods that may to rule there with some stubborn citizens. mr. serhiy, well, we also want to talk with you a little more about the pokrovsky direction. the 59th brigade announced that the russian... troops were withdrawing all their reserves in the pokrovsky direction, well , representatives of other brigades have repeatedly stated this, and in the kharkiv region, including, we were told that russian assaults had decreased there, due to the fact that they throw all their reserves in the direction of pokrovsky, they manage to make some progress there, but tell me in more detail what is happening there now and what prospects of stopping the enemy on this? direction, well, if we are talking about the pokrovsky direction, which is also connected with the turkish direction, because these are two interconnected directions, where there is a grouping

of russian troops called the center, two armies are operating there, the 20th army, the 41st army , the 20th army is advancing on pokrovsky there, the 41st on turetsk , and there is indeed a dynamic connected with the fact that the enemy has an advantage in manpower. equipment, we know that operational reserves were transferred to the pokrovsky direction, this 27 the mechanized division, which was the operational reserve of the command center of the enemy, and now we see that, first of all, the enemy is trying to push from pokrovsk towards pokrovsk to from the settlement, progress along the railway that leads to pokrovsk and there, relatively speaking, if we are there... let's look at the map, we can see that from pokrovsk there it is trying to act in several directions, from the progress , it is trying to act in several directions in the direction

of pokrovsk, it is just along the railway, trying to break through to the embankment in order to make its way to the track between pokrovsk and kostyantynivka, and indeed there is a certain progress of the enemy precisely due to the advantage in the offensive groups, we have a nizkana there. there are 47 of our brigades, 110 brigades, which have been defending in this area for a long time, but really the situation there remains the most difficult, because this advance and an attempt to advance in several directions, it primarily, well, among other things, creates a threat to our line of defense there, which there went from north to south just to yasnobrodivka to kurakhivka, and there exactly this advance of the enemy, well... the side of the desired, it just creates the risks of entering there behind a certain line of our defense, which can cause the withdrawal of our troops, and then the line of defense will then

be formed in another area, but we know that in this direction, well, our brigades for reinforcements, but all the same there is a dynamic of the slow advance of the enemy there, i hope that after a certain period of time we will be able to stop this advance, which now looks the most difficult of all the directions where the enemy is operating, and actually we we see that this direction is in the center of attention of our viskov political leadership, i hope that countermeasures will be found, and what about the logistics of the enemy, but why am i asking, because they have completed the railway between rostov and mariupol there, i understand that this is rather the ughledar direction, nevertheless, will this event somehow affect... the construction of logistics and these logistical routes for russian fighters in the pokrov direction. well, when we talk

about the pokrovsky area, ocheretyn remains, in principle, the main hub there. the enemy will continue to increase their forces there, but from ocheretany there are precisely these russian assault battalions that are forming there at marching pace just on vozdvizhenka, and on pokrovsky and on... it will actually become the loss of the column was such an important tactical achievement of the enemy, and now the enemy is trying to use this potential precisely due to the fact that this logistics, this line of supply to cheretony further on is now working for the enemy, when we talk about the fact that the enemy has built a railway there to mariupol, it is rather the southern direction and... this refers to the actions of the enemy in the south, and here it will rather refer to the enemy's attempt to create advantages in

the south. direction, we understand that the enemy is primarily interested in the ughledar direction and to push our line of defense away from the ughledar and further into the depths of our territory, and that is exactly where the construction of these railways is, it is really aimed at improving the logistics of the russians in the south, because all the logistics are being built there well, in three ways, this is the crimean bridge, this is just profitable crossings and the reconstruction of road and railway ways, which now carries out against. in any case, the countermeasures, well, of course, remains to destroy the bridges where this new railway passes there, in particular the kalmy levees, i hope that these measures will be taken, but in any case we see that as before , the russian federation is waging a war on the railways, building railways, which are then used to supply the russian troops, and this is exactly the new railway that mr. atrushchenko is talking about, it is more about the south and the creation of threats to

ownership of... well, mr. sergey, let's get to the question of the f-16. finally, this dream of all ukrainians and the office of the president came true, it appeared. finally, president zelensky was able to release this video of him standing around with two f-16s in the background, and it's probably really cool, but i think there's a term in the english language called wishful thinking, which i don't know , there is no exact translation in the ukrainian language, probably because we are not good at it, it is somehow reflected, but the question is simply what we got somewhere these 10 planes, and everyone will already realize that it will not change anything much, and in general it was not necessary to ask for f-16s, but gripens, and in general there will be some sense from them, maybe in 15 years, and in general they will not even be able to include

radars, because they will... calculate them once, and so on and so on and so on. i will not say much about it, i will simply state the conclusion of, for example, austrian aviation expert tom cooper, who says that ukrainian f-16s will cost ukrainians, donors of ukraine, and ukraine too many resources, which at the moment would be better spent on many other things that ukraine and the armed forces need much more urgently, and we heard this at the very beginning of all this hype around. f16 from the americans who said you need shells and guns, not f-16. we have one and a half minutes, mr. sergey. well, in any case, we can get down to the technical level of discussing what the f-16 can and can't do, but in any case, let's admit that this is a positive step forward. we are talking about what we need to provide certain dominance in the air, without aircraft it is difficult, we have lost a significant number of aircraft, at least 40 aircraft of various types

we have lost, we have to ... replenish, we have to create, well, real armed forces that can fight the enemy in the air and on the ground, on the ground we restrain the enemy with our courage, our infantry, our personnel, artillery, ammunition, but the air remains a challenge, we must understand that, relatively speaking, the first 10 planes are the first 10 planes, we see that there will be more number, this is a serious, let's say, a challenge for technical re-equipment, we understand all this, but in any case, let 's still... keep that positive vision that you said there in the english translation, because in any - in any case, this is really a new stage in the life of our armed forces, for a year and a half, politicians and the military have been pushing for this, now the military must find optimal methods of combating russian aviation, using all the limitations, all the advantages that can be given to the f16, i hope that it will be done. mr. serhiu,

thank you a little for this note of optimism. at the end of our second hour with ulyana panasiuk, now there is a moment of silence. let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.