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hryvnias in our account from 3 million, 500 thousand are needed, in a word, we are approaching the first million, we need less than 400 thousand for this, thank you for not forgetting to scan this qr code, now we will talk about money, and we hope that this will not reflect in your desire to inform and support our army, especially since in any circumstances we must be together with our the army, because it is thanks to those guys... who are defending us now that we can live our lives as fully as the current conditions allow us, but every day to remember simply the one thanks to whom we are living this day, so your donate here, and we continue, sergey furse, an investment banker appears on our airwaves, appears, appears, mr. sergey, we welcome you, congratulations, mr. sergey, the very first question, because it is probably of interest to everyone... , what

is happening with the dollar rate, again, it is getting more expensive, is it going to be like that, what is it with related? well, i don’t know where the dollar is more expensive, today it is already lower than 41 hryvnias at the interbank, that is, 40 points 99 here, nothing happens, the exchange rate fluctuates, but it fluctuates completely under the control of the national bank, the national bank has enough reserves, and actually fluctuations, they will continue as well, but any significant ones? there is not even a noticeable weakening of the dollar, the weakening of the hryvnia, sorry, relative to the dollar. mr. serhiy, do you think it is advisable to hold back the course so that it does not fly up, or is it now is, in your opinion, a well-considered step, a necessary step, or is it possible that we should not burn out our opportunities and reserves in order to keep this rate at this level? see, while the war is on, the course must be under control. because now there is no market

rate. and you, if you let go now, the course will fly and be anywhere. yes, tomorrow there will be 50 in a month 60 and so on and so on. therefore, as long as the war continues, course. must be controlled, now there is no market rate, now it can fly anywhere and significantly harm the ukrainian economy, well, first of all, every ukrainian, because wherever there is such a devaluation, there will be rampant inflation, and thanks to the money of our western partners, we have very large reserves of the national bank, and in fact, they are very smart here precisely for this and spend, and please tell me about the default, i had the opportunity to communicate with others who were also ... the help given to us by our western partners, so have we already passed this default, or can we survive it, and what has to happen for this default to happen, we hope that

it will never happen, but you as an economist can tell us about it professionally, well, look, formally in fact, there is no default, but all the consequences. default without default we have it because of war, war actually brings all the same things that default brings, everyone starts fleeing the country, no one invests money in the country, this is usually the result of default, but it is also the result of war, so for us it is the question, in principle, makes no sense now, whether only russian missiles are the restraining factor, a deterrent factor for investors, or whether it is still also an unclear situation with the fact that we have an opaque one. business, that our judicial system does not work well, that our business may be prosecuted? look, if suddenly the war ends, we can talk about other factors again. as long as the war continues, all the problems with the rule of law that we had as a standard and affected the investment climate, all the problems there with corruption, this will all be important

only after the end of the war. now the only thing holding back investors is the war, as long as there is a war, no one will invest, even if we have a great one here. situation with the rule of law and there would be no corruption at all. war is a major factor. mr. sergey, about taxes. look, now the government is proposing to us to vote on laws that will raise taxes for absolutely all sections of the population, and the very poor will do it, and the richer ones will do it a little bit, and the very rich will do it, right? well, not much there are some of us who are very rich, but there is still a certain, i would say, middle-class caste that still exists, fortunately, and that's how you, as an investment banker, could advise the government to approach tax increases, because now it is debatable there remains the issue of economy booking, which does not actually include such, you know, booking for elites, vips and so on, it is about the middle class, because we have also

talked about this repeatedly on our broadcasts, uah 20,000, so for many people in ukraine has it a large amount, but there are, for example, people who earn a month legally and... higher salaries there and they can afford to pay 20, even not people, businesses, so for those people they can afford to pay 20.00 hryvnias tax, is it possible that we should revise this flight tax policy in order not to overburden those who already cannot pay these taxes that are already in place, and still give more opportunities to those who can pay these taxes? uh, well , i got confused in what you said, let's go separate one from the other. the issue of taxes will be and taxes will be raised, this is not a turning point now, in fact we still had a very unique situation when taxes did not increase since the beginning of the war, this has never happened in the history of mankind, it was made possible thanks to our western partners, but again this is a unique temporary situation that is

abnormal, and now the time has come when the taxes are no longer enough for the army of the money that is collected and therefore the taxes will be increased, this is absolutely normal. well, actually, no one really likes it, nobody likes taxes in general, and especially to raise taxes, nobody likes, people don't like to pay it, but there is no other option, so taxes will be raised, the question is what is reasonable to raise and what is reasonable not to raise, and that that was first presented by the government, it didn't look very rational, when they abandoned the option with vat and switched to the option there with the military levy, taxes on turnover tax and so on, i hope they will return to... a rational concept, that's there , where it will be exactly raising vat, which is a consumption tax, that is, the more you consume, the more you pay, so the wealthier you are, the more you pay taxes, this is rational here, plus i hope all these initiatives to tax the premium

segment of consumption will remain , about gold jewelry, about a jeweler, about cars and so on, this is very appropriate now, i also hope that taxes on sweet water and so on will be preserved, because... this is useful for the health of the authorities, so on the one hand, taxes will be raised you just need to approach it rationally, the other part of your question is economy booking, it is very appropriate and i hope it will be done. although it is very unpopular, and even among the leadership of the parliament, i know, they are in opposition to this, there last friday the speaker came, where everyone asked him, when will there be economic reservation, he said that he does not want economic reservation , he doesn't like it, but it is very important for ukraine, it is important for business, because the lack of personnel is very significant now, this is a very big reason for business worry, and this inhibits development. and therefore

it would again be rational to give the business the opportunity to book part of the employees who are critical for the business, and due to this will increase the revenue to the budget. here , of course, the question of justice arises, is economic reservation fair? well, no, it's probably unfair, but in wartime i think the most important thing is efficiency, and it's effective. how much will the ukrainian budget benefit from the introduction of taxes? well, again, questions we don't know yet. what will be introduced, so we cannot say how much to win. the need for funding for this, for the rest of this year , is about 460 billion. and if we see now that there is an election campaign in america, and we do not know who will win, after all, we now have kamala harris and we do not fully understand her preferences regarding ukraine, they are so restrained , if to... the aid from the united states is reduced at a certain point, and then, and then it is reduced altogether, how, how

will we cope then? well, again, is there in the near future do we have an expectation that there will be no help from the united states? no, there isn't. we have the g7 decision about 2025 and $50 billion in russian assets. this actually guarantees us that even before the end of the 25th year, our budget financing problems will be covered. to predict any events for the 26th year now, well, it's too early - it's just like infinity for our history, so now i don't expect anything bad from kaliharis, she will most likely continue the policies of the biden administration, but remove, example sullivan, who is in our hearts, plus the statements of waltz, who has already been elected vice president by kamala harris, they are very pro-ukrainian, he is a very cool uncle, we all like him, yes, so expect some negative movements from the americans now into the future well, there is a risk of trump, i hope that this risk is minimized now,

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we were also attacked, we fpvidron, ochakovska, kotsorubska, there are also villages near leman. eh, but the fire was extinguished, there are no victims, so the day is good, but what about the situation with shelling in general, because this night was restless in ukraine, and we understand that for the mykolayiv oblast, unfortunately, this is a typical situation not only at night, but also during the day , and the more actively the enemy began to search mykolaiv oblast and whether there is any now certain improvement on the part of the ability to somehow counteract this, the quality is constantly increasing that... of our armed forces in countering anti-aircraft defense, this is a fact. unfortunately, the number of shelling has increased in recent weeks. the russians are using both ballistic missiles and shahid missiles, and are again attacking critical infrastructure. and this is against the background of such daily small-scale shelling, by fpvshka

border, non-border, sorry, er, near-front territories, this is the first priority kotsorubska and. chakiv community, there are daily arrivals. please tell me simply information also appeared, i think that many people who are not in the context may start to worry a little about why the radiation background was measured in the cities of the mykolaiv region, was it some kind of standard procedure, non-regular, or rather regular, or was it some kind of non-regular situation, and it was necessary to measure this background, it is about mykolaiv, yuzhnoukrainian, pervomaisk, ochakiv and beshtanka. to be honest, i don't know, but i remember that we measure the fund there 10 times a year, if not more, then this is a standard procedure, we don't have any extraordinary stories, i, if honestly, this is the first time i’m hearing about this, what kind of excitement there is in this regard, and what was measured in general, mr. vitaly, recently the first deputy minister of defense of ukraine, lieutenant general

ivan havryliuk, arrived in mykolaiv on an official visit, can you tell me about what did you talk about any details of this? visit and what did he go back with? he came in order to see for himself the work in the regions, this is within the framework of the mandate of the president and the prime minister regarding the ministry so that they strengthen cooperation with the regions, there on the agenda there were four issues: the mobilization of defense structures, feeding, treatment of the military, and more. something like the fourth question went through everything, everything was checked, well, that's all, everything is fine, let's put it this way, and there were any comments, we all took them to work. september is less than a month away, is there any preparation in mykolayiv oblast for the start of the school year, and what will it look like in the end, will schools work

offline. we are planning, now there is a plan, that first of all you... in september , 80% of our schools will work in offline and mixed mode, this is allowed by the formula for calculating the security situation and the availability of shelters in exactly this number of educational institutions, by the new year we still plan to increase the number of institutions that will be able to make decisions about offline education, and by the way, have the requirements for shelters changed in, for example, lviv oblast? the situation will be a little different, because there are now new rules regarding the requirements for shelter, or now this year there will be a smaller number of schools that will be admitted. than it was last year, i don't know, about less, i i think that there will be more, due to the fact that there is a formula of the ministry of education regarding the danger, that is,

if you take lviv and mykolaiv, then the distance to the enemy is different, and the response time, that is , they assess the risks of the military, and taking this into account, they put forward there, well, demands , so i think more, well i don't think, i'm sure there will be a lot more offline or offline schools this year. due to the fact that, firstly, it was graded, and secondly, no one stood still for a year, and shelters were done very intensively. the number of children in mykolaiv oblast, she has increased or decreased, how do you monitor trends in the fact that people leave, fearing that the winter will be difficult, and taking into account the forecasts, are there still those who return as a percentage, who else, we do not have statistics at hand, we have that. .. definitely not decreasing, there, let’s say, some of my friends returned with their families to mykolaiv, because in kyiv, well, at that time it was difficult to go to the 16th floor, because there were

interruptions with the light, so this is a question it is very changeable, so for now the security situation allows us to live peacefully, and we have gotten used to it, got used to this life here, that is , the number, well, i would call it a constant number, because we already have a few there... the number of people does not change significantly, the number of immigrants primarily from kherson does not change, so the situation here is constant, and who from the south of ukraine, he goes somewhere in the summer, dear vitaliy, i also wanted to ask you, you know, as they say, you have to prepare the sled in the summer, and we prepare for winter not with sleds, but with generators, power banks, eco-flows and the like, and we know that mykolayiv region is also that region. which, unfortunately, suffered a lot, especially during the period when we had nuclear power units under repair, now we have ukraine, in general the situation has become a little better, but we

are predicted to have a rather difficult winter, how are you preparing for this winter now? the fact is that since the 22nd year, since february, we have had active hostilities here, now it is a little better, but we started and were constantly under fire, we had problems with the light, and therefore we... for with the help of the state, with the help of foreign partners and benefactors and volunteers, we have been packing all this time generators, eco-flows and so on, and even now we have moved from the fact that we use generators there en masse, we install solar panels on social infrastructure objects there and develop this direction, so i bought, let's say, even more additional power , so be it, but in principle we have as far as... heat 58, almost 59% in the region do not use gas, we have gas heating left only in mykolaiv and voznesensk, everything else is on alternative

types of fuel, so it is more or less calm we we look at this winter, regarding electricity, well, we actually have ten times more generation there than the region uses, and we have programs that we can understand that in the most critical situation, we know where to get light. the question is about the unified energy system of ukraine, so that we can all have electricity, we supply electricity to a single network, that is, mykolaiv oblast is ready for that, we have 100% provision of social and critical infrastructure, generators and so on, and we are working on energy independence already by objects, i.e. hospitals, schools, objects critical infrastructure, we try to do without diesels on solar panels, on wind, and for civilians, for example, people who live in high-rise buildings or in private houses, are there any programs where they can take loans at 0% to prepare their homes before this period? there are these state programs, generally

achievable, it is the ministry of economy yuliya anatolivna sviridenko presented about free loans there for many years for seven or 10, something like 500 hryvnias, if there we calculated some standard generator per month it turns out, that is, these programs. acting, they are active and very easy to obtain, so i encourage everyone who wants not to buy for money, to buy on credit under the state program at 0%. i also wanted to ask, mr. vitaly, about decommunization in the mykolaiv region, the mayor of the city of mykolaiv, oleksandr sinkevich, had an air on social networks, and in this air he became indignant, said that the local residents and the mykolaiv city council do not agree with... this renaming some of the streets you approved and says that the toponymy debate will continue, what were those streets,

that you cannot agree here on that matter? we can agree on this, we are friends with the mayor, we have no problems with disagreements over some ideas, the question is what is it, i’m sorry, i’ll exclude it, i didn’t read it out of the blue, but i condemn it, well, if the law passed to me street renaming, this is when the local self-government did not have time, or did not want to, or'. actually transferred these powers so that there would be no political scandals, so i cannot, if they have not approved, leave everything as it is, i had my own opinion, i will warn dawn, that before that, please make a decision, your terms are eight months there, in order for you to conduct a survey there, everything else, i also spent two weeks there and put it up for discussion, taking into account the opinion of the city , he even had meetings with everyone. with

the initiative groups, and we reached a certain compromise, which i think is the right one, so if you want something to work, work yourself, do it, take responsibility and don't pass it on to people who can then do it personally, well and in conclusion, mr. vitaly, there is a positive one news, at least this is evidenced by the information that was made public, referring to the regional vii... in the administration of the mykolayiv region, that the task of construction and arrangement of engineering facilities has been completed by 100%. can you share these results, how did you arrive at those results? i can't comment on this issue, because i shouldn't have commented on fortifications at all, so i won't comment, that's why we wrote, but no longer wrote. ugh, well, that's all for the end, and by the way, do people like yours? local

residents to the process of decommunization, do they now think that this issue is not at the right time, because there are different moods in odesa, for example, where certain events are taking place in relation to this, and how are you in the region, are people now understanding do they think that we are not doing it right now, because there are also such opinions, you know, i support my colleague maksym kozytsky here, what he wrote that there is nothing to do with bullshit, it should be... renamed, because we are on the road to decommunization, and what is happening in krymomuroz, what is happening in odesa, this is a fire with the people, with the electorate, because people say this about it from the position of an electoral position, this is what the mayors say about this issue, we do not have such conflicts, in fact, it is also convenient for me personally, as i remember sorry, it's hard for me to remember new

street names personally. but at the same time, i understand that it is necessary to do it, and the sooner we do it, the faster we will get used to the new street names, i do not see any problem in this, to rename streets in accordance with the law, if we are an open country, democratic, time will pass, if people say, return it there or prove that it is really a historical street there, there for odesa or for mykolaiv, well, let's rename it again, what is the issue, there were deadlines, there was... the law, which should be renamed there in specific terms, i don't remember, 1,500 streets, well, they did it within the terms stipulated by law, if there are separate issues on some streets, well, let's consider some more, but 99% of the work has already been done, so the point situation i think you can look around, in general, that's all as a system it was done correctly and the law must be obeyed, thank you, thank you, vitaliy kim, the head of the mykolaiv regional military administration was with us, i don't know...

you can train your memory, i was born and until the 90s lived on the street of the first 1 mine, well, but now she is called shevchenko, and it is very hard for me to remember her first soviet name. well, let's move on now, it's 5 p.m., it means that it's news time and we're ready to give the floor to our colleague anna yevimelnyk, colleague, we're giving you the floor and please share with us what this issue will be about. greetings, thanks for yours. work, we, the news editors, will continue to work , we will tell you about the important things and, in particular, what is known about the new strain of the coronavirus, all the details will follow, stay with us.