including autonomous, robotic, well, actual launchers, drones, i do not exclude artificial intelligence, there is no such thing in russia, they will try to demonstrate that they can launch calibers and zircons from ground launchers, but well, this is like a maximum , what they can for metal, but speaking more broadly, what russia can still do, it seems to me that they can continue this line. the american one or to clone it, they demonstrated such capabilities, to create, well, let’s say, to change the control system of their missiles in general strike forces so as to create a single fist, one can say from there drones, missiles, various other means, airplanes, that is, to create such a control system that can deliver combined strikes. i don't rule out that we have already seen a little bit of this in recent months, when something has changed in the way they spend. combined attacks, what they

call combined attacks, when drones, missiles, and under different command, naval, aviation, army drones in general, all of this works synchronously, but i do not rule out that this is the most dangerous, what can they do, create such a unified management system of the various strike means that they have or are available to them, and will russia succeed now? to such a strategy of technology transfer to other countries, in particular to support iran in this situation that is currently developing in the middle east, the transfer of air defense systems, dry iskanders, military equipment, how do you think moscow will now act in these are the conditions difficult enough for the russian federation? well, i had the impression that they were frighten the world with the artificial proliferation of weapons technology. but it seems so similar from the last such

reports from the lutsk east, after all , iran again, as in the previous strike, began after shoigu's visit to warn israel when exactly this will happen, how it will happen, that is, that is, this form of de-escalation, she says that actually shoigu brought to iran the message that they cannot provide iran with the necessary... support for a real war with hamas, and in the end, it's just this axis of weakness of the resistance, what is called such an anti-western coalition, it is clear that they do not have enough forces for a major war, when it comes to a major hybrid war, they have a lot of forces, but when it comes to specific numbers and technologies, they are still, well, they not strong and such... i think

the russians can talk about this, that they will transfer some technology to someone, but the situation now is such that technology, in general , metal, weapons, all this is needed first of all by the russians themselves to withstand this war and maintain at least such rates of attack which they now have a village there for a week. mr. oleksiy, thank you very much for your so clear and new and interesting. i will remind our viewers that it was oleksii yezhak, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies, and in general, these were the main results of the day, then the broadcast will be continued by vasyl zima, so stay tuned to the spresso channel. thanks to serhiy zgurets, thanks to his guest, well, actually shuigu's answer to the leaders. this is

medvedev's paraphrased answer, which he once voiced to the residents of crimea: there is no money, but you hold on, that is we won't give you weapons, but you hold on, there are no resources for a big war, here, as they say, not everything in our country consists even of maintaining these or other settlements in the kurtshchyna, of course there is no need to make such a big event, but on the one hand, that we are already reaching moscow, on the other hand, let's remember that at one time the cossacks' march through orel, kursk and other points to moscow under the leadership of sahaidachny was quite successful, and until now historians are struggling to answer the question: why sahaidachny then left from near moscow? there is still no answer, but the fact that moscow could have fallen then, in principle, is also a question, the question is also obvious, well then , of course, there were poles there, it was a period of turmoil in russia, well, but in any case, as they say, we can repeat what is actually happening now. at least from the official sources

of the ukrainian military and military-political leadership, we do not have, well, but we have a collection, which we have for... espresso tv channel and the vesna charitable fund have opened a collection of funds for the purchase of modern drones and radio-electronic systems combat for the third separate assault brigade, as well as for the 110th and 47th brigades of the armed forces of ukraine. the defenders in the donetsk direction hold back powerful enemy attacks every day. defending our freedom and future. it was these soldiers who stood to the last and defended the avdiiv direction in the spring, when it was very difficult, when there was no shortage of ammunition, and we remember how difficult and bloody the situation was then, well, of course, because of this there were many losses and we need to renew resources , of course there are certain special bodies that deal with it renewal of human resources, i.e. trained soldiers, but we need

resources and those with which you can beat the enemy, so to speak, technical resources, there are soldiers who urgently need flying weapons and modern means of countering enemy drones, these technologies are critically important for the protection of our soldiers. our goal is uah 3.5 million. remember, each of your donations brings our victory closer. together we will be able to protect those who protect us today. good health, dear ukrainians. we, the fighters of the first assault battalion of the third separate assault brigade, who will defend ours native land on the front line. we urgently need your help. we need the means. electronic combat radio against the enemy's small bpola and komikadze drones, we are asking for your help, glory to ukraine, to the heroes, glory, these are wonderful warriors, of course, these are not all those for whom we collect this money, but these are the warriors who recorded

video message, looking at them, listening to them, you understand, we have to help, we have to do what we have to do, it's that simple, so that they can there ... beat the enemy and protect their lives and health. now we will talk about the situation in the kherson region. with us is oksana pogomiy, deputy of the kherson city council. mrs. oksano, i congratulate you. congratulations. glad to see and hear. please tell me, let's start with the security situation first. kherson-kherson region, as of now, this day, night, has passed. how they passed, enemy attacks, consequences, well, i see, there were enemy attacks here and there, with drones and others. means of destruction from the left bank, in general, please, it has now become very dangerous for us, but even i am an optimist, and i cannot say that yes you can between snoring, yesterday and tonight there were shelling from rszzo, and thank god

there are no casualties, but there are people with oh, somehow that's what it's called an injury, well, the forearm was torn off, let 's say amputated. there are amputation injuries, there are very serious injuries, it’s all at night rszzo, during the day, in the morning, in the evening we have drones all the time now, practically they are now, well, not all microdistricts, thank god they are flying, but they are flying further and further, and that is why in everything is more dangerous for us, especially if you drive a car, especially if you are a soldier, then in general very much dangerously. current, i think that this information can be disclosed, there is nothing so secret, especially if they are enemy drones, are they strike drones, or are they drones that do drops, because i know that the most despicable thing is what the enemy does when they , let's say, well , in the city of kherson, they also fly into coastal villages and drop drones on houses, on yards

where people are congregating there, or near a garden, or near a house, they drop drones on cars, especially if it can be a medical car , or... police officers, or ordinary civilians a car, somewhere people are going from one place to another, and here it is to a greater extent what drones are, how powerful they are, and well, you said that the threat is great, but still, to understand whether it is a drone that flies in and you don't even understand where it came from, is it the drone that buzzes somewhere in the sky and then throws down or a grenade or something else, it's a drone, drones are mostly with resets, but they are very high and they are not it is always possible, if the weather is good, there is no... wind, they fly very high, and you can even hear them by sound, that is, you have to or to listen, but it interferes with the cars that are driving, that is, other sounds interfere, or they go down only when they already drop this grenade, or what they

have attached to that drone, mostly civilians - these are drones with drops, father, the injuries are car injuries, you are right, that's right, the brigade today. signalmen, thank god that they, they put the car under a tree, that is, if they hid it, but thank god that they were not in the car, it was lucky that it was under a tree, that the drone got tangled there... and not directly the car blew up before, well , we have those now, i never liked disaster movies, but now we live in such a situation, here is of course a question, well, again, i understand that this is not your area of ​​responsibility, to answer questions such as countering enemy drones, guys, everything else, as far as i understand, the civil authorities, at least, can't provide it. moreover, we understand how difficult the situation is, and from the right and

from the left bank there are ongoing hostilities, well , let's say, recently we heard about a rather successful operation of a group of special operations forces on the tendrivska spit, by the way, once upon a time there was such a picturesque and beautiful place on it, where the enemy was hit by fire, and from what i read, the ukrainian, ukrainian sso group from the tenderivska spit got out without losses, well, that’s already there already the sea, this is where the sea already is. on the one side of the sea, it is so quite picturesque, and once upon a time it is said that achilles was preparing for the olympics, achilles himself ran there, well, there is such a legend, at least that is why the hostilities continue, it is clear that the enemy is also striking, but there was a story here about the fact that the enemy is allegedly transferring some forces from the left bank of the kherson region to other directions, you don’t feel that there has been less, well, maybe there is artillery shelling there, if we are not talking about drones now, or the situation, or whether civilians do not feel it , that somewhere there, somewhere... there may be a movement, we do not feel that there is such a movement, and from

the crumbs that we can find out from the left bank, there is no such movement, well, at least this is my personal opinion, my personal experience , in relation to how much denser, i i mean, except for drones , orta is being bombarded very closely, and we have been experiencing this for the last week. felt very strongly about our defenses, i can say what i can't say, the drones that are supplied by the ministry of defense, there are cases when they explode in the hands, the drones that are supplied by the ministry of defense, our guys are all resoldering in order for them to fly, in order for them to work, the guys that are supplied by the ministry of defense, they don't work, they... don't perform the functions that are written in the passport, let's say, yes, there are so many

kilometers, or so many meters, or something like that, that is, conventionally speaking, they do not jam, do not derail the course and do not deactivate enemy drones, as it is not matyuk, yes, from the gamna and sticks are made at a high price, and when local people buy, even there the village council allocates funds, or someone else, then they buy from... from those to whom the administrator shows them, well, who is there, six managers, an office, yes, there, who there it is managed by the ministry of defense, and this, arahamia, well, in any case, you know, it is very important to hear reality, yes, because when you hear, of course, it can be a specific person, who somewhere there has committed something to himself, it can be, well , relatively speaking, he does not give a command there... or president zelensky, yes, but we understand, that there are people who may be doing something wrong somewhere, but it is people's lives that are the most important, and as

for people's lives, you know, in war it is very important, reading the classics, as they say, of military art and political classics, which have gone through the war, spent their peoples through the war and then rebuilt the countries, you understand that war is also preservation prospects, and whether you will be able to recover, because winning is one story, or as king pyrrhus said. i need one more such victory, i won’t have an army left, well, it won’t be like that in our country, of course, we believe, but the facts, according to the estimates of sociologists, in 11 months, which have now passed, seven times, this is a survey, seven times the number of those who do not want and will not return to the city of kherson has increased, and seven times this is a lot, if there were, let's say seven... 100 people did not want to, now there are 7.7

49, then it will be 4,900 there , well, relatively speaking, if that and so on, you can count there, i don’t know how many, but what does this indicate, and again, the number of people who remain in kherson today, how many people are ready to leave for the autumn winter period, because in general in ukraine the story is such that the figure is estimated to be somewhere around 700 thousand people who can still... leave ukraine according to the national bank for the autumn and winter period, because it is not clear how this autumn and winter will pass, this has increased the number seven times those who will not return to kherson, but... to say, yes, i, i simply, simply know why, first of all, what, what is being shot, but people expect that there will still be some, well , i am not talking about a counteroffensive, in general, that there will still be a victory, and people are ready to wait, but when we hear now about agreements, possible agreements, uh, authorities

with rusnaya and along the line of demarcation, as now. and we are on the demarcation line, as it is now, there are a lot of people, in fact, and i know it, they sit and are afraid that we will be occupied again, and here are those who are afraid and whose nerves are not yet strong, i talked about it week and that week, they say, we are ready to leave, uh, because we are afraid of another occupation, i will tell you, i am also afraid of that, i will not be the last, probably, who will turn off the lights in the city of kherson, but i.. . i just know that if there is another occupation, then i will be the first to whom the orcs will come, and i would not want to live, even if you are 100 years old, but you know, i still believe in the zsu so much, i communicate, we, we have a military assistance center, and we communicate with the guys every day, and i do not see that they have despair, i do not see that they have hands

got down, and this is how we support each other, i think it will somehow be better. and the people now, who are just ready to leave, are those who, everyone has their own tolerance threshold, in fact, they are those who already have their own pain threshold, mrs. oksana, i thank you very much, by the way, i think that your words, that you voiced about the quality of drones and drones, they will be accepted normally by those people who make decisions, and maybe the situation will change, and in fact , high-quality ones will be provided to kherson oblast, where swarms of these drones fly every day, maybe there are high-quality ones there, but what you voiced is important because you're there and you see it, you know it, it's very... important actually, and again i think it will be adequately appreciated and there will be some changes to to preserve first of all the lives of people, and of course our military and military equipment, oksana pogumin was with us, a deputy of the kherson city council, i mean the lives of people and military, the military are also people, i just mean civilians and military, yes, because you always know when they say you're criticizing, no, it's not criticism, it's a person lives there and says that the drones are resoldered,

well, it shouldn't be like that, it's state money, they're being purchased, well, actually, we 'll continue that. now the demographics are seven times more people do not want to return to kherson. olga peshchulina is with us, a leading expert of the razumkov center. mrs. olya, i congratulate you. good day. here is one, we will start with this, and a specific example, i specially prepared it, because i knew that today i will speak with the kherson region. over the past 11 months, the number has increased sevenfold those who will not return to kherson, if we start with this, as a concrete example, and of course a city on the front line, in fact, it has its own... history, and there are cities that are completely occupied, there is another history, but if we talk now about demographic threats, how serious they are, how real they are, well, this is really a problem for ukraine, if we say, using, so to speak, the terminology used by demographers, then the age

pyramid of ukraine, it has such a constant regressive character, that is, it is not eastern. yes we are characterized by a low birth rate and a high death rate, and even demographers are already talking about a demographic hole, that is, when the death rate is many times higher than the birth rate, and it should be said that this problem did not appear today, not this year, and not several years ago, unfortunately, since 1991, we have been on such an inexorable, inexorable trend in terms of birth rate. but this is not only a problem of ukraine, i would like to emphasize this, because ukraine, by the way, even, well, until the year 22 , was in a slightly better situation, in a better condition than european countries, for example, that is, if the average, let's say, age,

we had 40 years, then european countries 43 years. they were even older than ukraine, well , if we compare in other countries, there in asia it is 31 years, in africa it is 18 years, that is , the situation in our country was more or less better, compared to european countries, but this is the situation, i would say, quite natural for european countries, we are really facing a decline in the birth rate, and this problem, it is complex, and i would say yes, this problem is systemic. in addition to reducing quality life, which we definitely face now, we are talking about the impact of ecology on fertility, chronic stress, the uncertainty of some personal prospects. collective, which lead to the deterioration of women's health, to the deterioration of men's health, the inability to have children, and this is what transforms such important

social problems that we ourselves are faced with today. it should also be remembered that today we are observing a fairly widespread trend of introducing widespread advertising, well, various contraceptive, aberrant measures, yes. we are even talking about artificial insemination, excuse me in test tubes, that is, this is such a problem that is quite widespread, especially in european countries, and on the other hand, the decrease in the birth rate, both in ukraine and in the countries of the european union, it connected with such worldwide trends of transformation of the institution of the traditional family in general, that is, you mean, excuse me, i just, that is, this hand, you mean that it is gaining momentum, or because well, the life of europe, maybe people want to live for themselves, isn't that the main problem, absolutely, you are right, that is

, the demographic crisis is a derivative, let's say this, of this transformation of the institution of the family, and by the way, there are studies , especially they are widespread among sociologists, demographers, who show that low birth rates are a sign of industrialized countries, another very interesting study that was conducted by a frenchman back in the 19th century, for a moment, this is demographer jacques berthelion, who conducted research and compared the birth rate, how it is related to well-being, so his hypothesis was that there is, let's say, a biological law, the more favorable the living conditions, the greater the number of those for whom these conditions are favorable, and this for... the law, it is fair without exception to all living beings, except humans. it has been proven that a person, for a person,

this law, if it were to appear the other way around, the higher the well-being, the lower the birth rate, at least this applies to european countries, that is, in this regard, we are not single ladies of olya, now up to 6 million ukrainians, maybe even more, and this winter and autumn they may still leave, found themselves in western countries. of course, also in canada, in the united states, but most importantly - these are the countries of western europe, and quite a few of them, as they say, are actively engaged in the adaptation of ukrainian citizens, in particular young people, children, i was abroad once during the war on a business trip with permission of the profile ministry there, and talked with children, with schoolchildren, with people, and from the whole class with whom i talked, there there were 35 children, about three children wanted to go to... to ukraine, it's just a fact, it exists, and so here's the question, we literally have four minutes, but i want your opinion, how should the government act now, in your opinion, how to act in order to preserve the prospects for ukraine, return

people, invite migrants, laborers, i don't know, whatever, support families so that they give birth more, well, the situation is not easy, the war continues, when it will end, we do not know, we are in a situation , when we do not know how it will be tomorrow, but it is necessary to act already, please, well, support the native, i don't know, he seems to be such a supporter of this path, as for attracting migrants, well, i don't , especially since migrants are unlikely to come to us, our country is not rich, well, by modern standards. by european standards, at least, yes, plus the question of danger, but as for our migrants who are now abroad, we must work with them, we

must not forget that they are ours, they must either work remotely, or some other ways are used with that they felt a connection to the motherland, although you are really right, the children may not return, so why should adults return, rather, because there are... friends here, there are parents, there is real estate here, well at least, and in children, when people have an education and they can work somewhere based on their education, and don’t excuse me to wash dishes somewhere in some country, realizing that they have a fag, which can provide them no worse here, in principle, and there is still housing there , for example, if the child who was now studying at school, and then she chooses european universities, she is unlikely to return, and the older generation, i think, even more than... 100% believes that we will return, because after all, well, that is the feeling of her native land, she it is very important for us, i am finally your

forecast, well... if we are talking about approximately 7 million ukrainians who left, let it be 8 million, let it be there, well, maybe it is not taken into account, in your opinion, as of now, how many approximately, 50% may return, or some events may occur, when in general all, well almost all will take and return, we don't know what will happen in europe, what the ecological situation will be, in general , what, that is, we, we also don't know many things, how it will be in the future, yes, unfortunately, today we have a planning horizon, you know, until lunch, very short, we really have a few minutes planned before... black swans will fly, we don't know what will really happen in europe, if we talk to our friends who are currently in europe, then they too, well, very anxious, they are afraid of war, which may take place in european countries, ours studies show that today 30% say for sure that they will return, about 50 is already pessimistic, but there may be more than 70%, let's say this, hardly,

but again... the situation can develop in the most unpredictable way way, and i still believe that again, the older generation will return to everything sooner, but we will have to fight for the young, well, in any case, we will fight, each on his own level. olga pishchulina was with us the leading expert of the razomkov center, we talked about demography, indeed, according to the latest estimates, we have 80,87,000 babies born in the last six months, 250,000 ukrainians have died, these are... just numbers that need to be accepted, and you know, the situation is such that you perceive and need to act, well, there are challenges, relatively speaking, a person is told that you have oncology, well, you need to act, be treated, do something, well, just sit and there is something flying at you, you need to do something, but you always need to perceive it as such and act, you will succeed, you will succeed, well, you will not succeed, we will try one more thing, and now we will try to tell the news, literally in a moment, congratulations, this is svoboda live on radio svoboda, we have already come to

the very... the following shots may shock you. live news from the scene. kamikaze drone attacks, political analytics. objectively and meaningfully. there is no political season. exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front. svobodalai is frank and impartial. you draw your own conclusions. good evening, we are from ukraine. so, the news is on the big air, it's better not to flirt. the new strain of covid, with the somewhat romantic name flirt, is more contagious than its predecessors, warned in the ministry of health protection of ukraine. according to igor kuzin, the chief sanitary doctor of our country, this strain has the same symptoms as other variations of the virus, an increase in body temperature, mainly in the first days of the disease, cough, headache and muscle pain. cousin also

noted that people who... didn't get a booster dose, vaccines have a higher risk of getting infected with flirtation, by the way, when i was on vacation, the first week i felt somehow that i had all these symptoms, maybe i passed covid at home, thank god that i was at home, because i was in a very strange condition, although of course i have vaccinations, well, in any case, be careful, because this covid is really really progressing, the next evacuation train from donetsk region has arrived in rivne, more than 100 displaced people have received safe shelter , reports the state service and from emergency situations, among those who were able to get out of the shelling, there are 20 children and ten people with disabilities, earlier the ambulance transported more than three hundred residents of the frontline regions to the city, and also, forced migrants are met by rescuers, psychologists, doctors and representatives of the authorities, who are ready to provide them with the necessary support. in odesa, one of the commanders of the military unit received

not his salary, well... his, obviously, but also that of his subordinates. meanwhile, those mobilized stayed at home, and voluntarily gave up their bank cards in exchange for evasion of service. the scheme was exposed by the state bureau of investigation. the employees reported the suspicion to the deputy commander, and also established the circle of those involved abuses by officials of the military unit. according to preliminary data, the deals managed to issue more than 20 men and receive up to 20 million hryvnias from them. the article provides for up to 12 years. to prisons, zoo activists interrupted the weekly audience of the pope, francis i, two women walked through paul vi hall and with posters and t-shirts with the slogan bullfighting is a sin and also stop blessing bullfighting. activists claimed that some were catholic