the negotiation process on russian terms. the largest exchange with western democracies has just taken place. russia received a certain number of its spies and killers, in return it gave the usa and germany several russian political prisoners who opposed russian aggression against ukraine. and there were rumors that russia is going to pick up on this topic, and from this proceed with negotiations with the west and with exchanges with ukraine, maybe, maybe, exchange some... collaborators who are in prison in ukraine, who acted in interests russia after the start of full-scale aggression, this is the direction we obviously have to look, here is a provocation, that is, something is happening, and it can be disrupted by an offensive in the kurdish region, because russia will obviously respond extremely brutally, it is already shouting and making it clear that she believes that strategic objects are under threat, it is not even about a gas distribution station. and, for example, a propagandist who

works in the russian army, former chechen commander abtiudi alanov, persistently declares that the kurdish as is in full safety this means that it is not completely safe, as we understand it, and this is probably a signal that ukraine is no longer there. and if we recall the recent call from russian defense minister bilousov to his american colleague that ukraine is preparing some special operation, try to influence them, as the russian... side at least described it, then it turns out that they are scaring the west itself, they are scaring the west because there is some strategic facility, a nuclear power plant, they are in danger, and here, hold me seven, russia is now behind doesn't answer, probably drunk dmytro medvidev, the former president of the russian federation, will start writing in his telegram about the inevitability of using nuclear weapons, threats that don't frighten anyone much, because it's not the first time and it hasn't stopped. walls, but one way or another, a certain set of

statements and actions that clearly increase the degree of these statements, it is clearly not even addressed to ukraine, primarily to the west, so that the west, as they expect, will somehow affect ukraine, and this clearly disrupts some process , which is potentially important to putin. the world is on officials react cautiously to the events in kursk oblast and the fighting on the border. journalists ask about their reactions, so the spokesman of the us state department, matthew miller , had to answer at the briefing whether the us knew about the operation in the kursk region. he says ukraine did not inform the us about this in advance, but washington is currently in contact with kyiv regarding these events. our correspondent olena abramovich, who is with us on communication from brussels. elena, congratulations, thank you for joining. restoration of ukrainian

sovereignty and territorial integrity, well , this issue was also initiated by journalists at a briefing at the us state department, and there they also insisted that ukraine defends itself, that its actions do not violate us policy and are not obliged to inform about the tactical details of its battles , well, they reacted the same way to statements from moscow there. i saw the message from the russian authorities, it's a bit too much for them to call it a provocation, if... considering that russia is violating the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine, as you said, for 900 days, although in fact it has been since 2014. after all, the decisions about how ukraine conducts its military operations are made by ukraine. our policy on cross-border strikes has not changed. the events in the kursk region were described in detail, and a number of western media. the wall street journal called it a surprise for russia from the ukrainian army, and as a politician a great undermining... of the prestige

of putin, who is trying to protect russians from the consequences of a war that he himself unleashed. the guardian suggested that ukraine is like that is trying to pull part of the russian military to the eastern front of donbass, this was repeated by the independent newspaper, but they also added that most likely it will not have any long-term effect, given russia's great advantage in manpower. katerina thank you, colleague, olena abramovich, european correspondent. radio svoboda talked about the world's reactions to the events in kursk region. meanwhile, the african countries of mali and niger open diplomatic relations with and break diplomatic relations with ukraine, and not because of the fighting in the kursk region. these countries accused kyiv of supporting, as they say, terrorist groups and based their decision on the comments of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine. recently, the rebels. in mali

, the tuaga rebels, who officially call their movement permanent strategic framework for peace, security and development, destroyed a column of wagnerites, several dozen mercenaries and government soldiers were killed or captured, photos and videos were published by western media and various telegram channels, after this representative gur mondriy yuso stated on the air of the telethon that the tuaregs, i quote: received the necessary information and not only the information that made it possible to conduct a successful military operation against russian war criminals, end of quote, he did not give other details, and it was these words in small and niger considered it a confirmation of ukraine's participation in the destruction of the wagnerites and... state soldiers, after that gur explained that they did not confirm ukraine's involvement in the defeat of the wagnerites, yusov said this in a comment to the financial times, although the media published alleged evidence of ukraine's involvement in these battles. kyivpost published a photo showing the tuaregs posing with

the ukrainian flag, probably after the raid, and the times published a long story about kyiv allegedly seeking cooperation with the rebels. since last year, and times journalists wrote that some toreg rebels were allegedly brought all the way to ukraine to train them in the use of drones. the publication refers to certain documents of the us national security agency and an unnamed russian telegram channel. according to the us department of defense, militants of the private military company wagner have maintained their presence in africa even after the probable death of their leader prigozhin, and with the armed and financial support of the kremlin, they carry out certain tasks there. the ukrainian foreign ministry called mali's decision to sever diplomatic relations short-sighted and hasty and drew attention to the fact that there is no evidence of ukraine's involvement in the armed conflict in mali. the next country that can break diplomatic relations with ukraine may be burkina faso,

because together with niger and mali, they formed the confederation of the sahel states on the african continent. at the same time , ukraine is building other diplomatic missions on the african continent. relations with the visit of minister of foreign affairs dmytro kuleba, he went on his fourth african tour in the last two years in the list of countries to visit malawi, zambia, mauritius, with some leaders the minister has already signed official documents on cooperation. joining our broadcast is marta oliynyk dyomochko, candidate of political sciences, africanist researcher from the global foundation ukraine. welcome to our broadcast, thank you for joining. good afternoon, glad to be with you today. to begin with, tell us what part of african countries is conventionally pro-western and what is not, and who controls the influence on countries like mali, niger, burkina faso? if we look at the sahel, actually mali, burkina faso,

niger are three countries controlled by military juntas, which have severed any relations, let's say, with a military measure, because these countries, they suffer from terrorist threats, themselves independently they they cannot cope, accordingly they need some strong partner from outside, now it is not the west, now it is russia, accordingly these are absolutely pro-russian countries, we can also include central africa, where russia actually carried out state capture, that is, it is its representatives they sit there in it, for example, there in the ministry of defense and so on and tell the country, roughly speaking, what to do, how to act, that is, they penetrated directly into the political life of the country, you can also mention eritrea, and russia is now actively trying to expand its the zone of influence on a country like chat, on a country like the democratic republic of the congo, since russia is there, they also suffer from security threats, from rebels, and russia is also trying, let's say, somehow to throw its wagnerites there to establish political contacts, many countries in africa have with russia

, respectively, such ancient historical ties, due to the fact that russia supported in the last century, that is, not russia, but the ussr, they supported the rebels. movements, the struggle against colonialism and so on, certain political ones the forces provided them with training, weapons to carry out their activities, and accordingly , russia has now appropriated this entire image, so to speak, that is, countries such as south africa, mozambique, zimbabwe, angola, that is, russia's position there is also quite strong , if you look at the north, at north africa, russia's rather strong partner there is algeria, there is egypt, that is, those countries with which, as i have already noted, russia has long-standing relations, but at the same time there is a part of african countries that are ready to cooperate with ukraine, these are the countries that vote for us in the un general assembly, these are the countries that have long looked positively at ukraine, sought to establish relations with us, that is, to a greater extent, these are the countries that will focus on the western world, that is, this and kenya itself, djibouti, ghana, zambia, malawi,

mauritius, which, by the way, as you mentioned , the minister of foreign affairs kuleba is currently visiting, it could be tunisia, morocco, coddivo. that is, there is support for ukraine on the african continent, there is a large part of countries that seem to be undecided, that say that they neutrals who do not want to interfere, to be involved, let's say, in the russian-ukrainian conflict. who want this conflict to bypass them, and they did not have to make any difficult political choices, because they see the russian-ukrainian confrontation now, let's say, as a new cold war, and they remember those proxy wars that were fought on their territory during the cold war, accordingly, they do not want to be included, let's say, in a new confrontation, for example, there are countries in which, in principle, neutrality is prescribed, well let's say at the level of laws, for example, like namibia or like mozambique, there is that woman. which seems to also maintain a neutral position, therefore we should also work with these countries, and in this

context, what does the termination of diplomatic cooperation with mali, niger and possibly burkina faso mean for ukraine, is it possible during that how is the tour of the ukrainian minister of foreign affairs to be defined as a defeat of ukraine's diplomatic efforts? in fact, it is a bit loud to talk about the defeat of ukraine's diplomatic efforts, that's why that we... did you correctly notice when exactly the termination of these relations took place? this was announced by the mali junta on august 4, just when the minister went on a tour, that is, it was after lavrov's call that took place last week, where russia assured mali itself that it would continue cooperation, continue to support them safely and so on , in fact, that is, it can be regarded as such a petty revenge against ukraine, i doubt that it will cause some kind of domino effect, and many countries will now break relations with ukraine, it is unlikely, another thing is that russia will use this as a good informational excuse, good in quotes, where there is propaganda, where it will present ukraine as a terrorist

country, and actually, it can have some influence if we are talking about countries that again well, it’s as if they haven’t decided, they’re supposedly neutral, but they also have certain such rebel movements on their territories, for example, there is such a large african country as ethiopia, the second largest, a large economic power, in which a number of rebel groups on the territory of a number various anti-government groups, ethiopia is still neutral towards ukraine. russian regarding the russian-ukrainian war, lavov also visited there, minister kuleba also visited there, and what is characteristic, the country's prime minister did not want to meet with lavrov, but he met with minister kuleba, martochnyt, did he play the defeat of the wagnerites in malia here perhaps a key role regarding, regarding what, regarding the breakdown of relations, regarding the breakdown of diplomatic relations, well, that is, we understand and such a series now and that, that is, niger is also about this stated whether a third country can break these... relations, that is, it is obvious that such diplomatic relations were difficult, and they are broken, that is, the debacle of the wagnerites, for

which these countries blame ukraine, and he had such an important role, if the visits there before lavrov or the calls did not work, now this is exactly what happened, well, look, we don’t have such great cooperation with mali that we have something to lose, if you can say it a little cynically, because we didn’t have there are no diplomatic or trade major relations, but the fact is that... er, the wagnerites defeated the tuaregs that mali is fighting against, let's say, that she's trying to push out now, because they're settled in the north, which is where the gold mines that mali wants to access with by the wagnerites, respectively, the fact that, let’s say, the tuaregs suffered such a crushing defeat against the wagnerites, and this is so, well, let’s say, this is quite a strong slap to russia in terms of image, both military and political, so yes, maybe after that , as lavrov called before... well, he called before his counterpart from mali after their phone conversation, and we see this statement, which is completely

filled with those traditional clichés of russian propaganda about terrorism in ukraine, neo-nazis and so on. therefore, yes, this is exactly the rout of the wagnerites, the fact that it was really done by the tuaregs, although, again, our foreign ministry reacted quite so restrained and correctly, because we don’t have any, we don’t have any evidence, let’s say one hundred percent, of ukraine’s involvement. i.e. e is a statement. did not recognize, indeed the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine reacted, v gur also reacted, clarified that they did not recognize their participation, and that is it, but we will follow further and the results of the visit of the ukrainian minister to the countries of africa, thank you marto for joining, marto oliynyk domochko, candidate of political sciences, africanist researcher and foundation from the global ukraine foundation was a guest of svoboda ranok, join our broadcasts every weekday from 9 o'clock on the youtube channel of radio svoboda and also on the air of the espres tv channel. tv, take care and see you soon.

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anything, yes, yes, we have some problems with the sound, let's try to fix it now. because we want to ask mr. volodymyr, oh, everything, are you listening, great, mr. volodymyr, you recently stated that it is necessary to check the possible draining of data for the relationship, action, took the initiative to call minister mykhailo fedorov to a meeting of the committee on digital transformation after how the us fbi announced a manhunt for russians suspected of hacking ukrainian government websites on the eve of a full-scale invasion. tell me, please, whether it was possible to find out whether there was a downpour or not? well, actually, we initiated an investigation and wrote the appropriate letters from the committee to conduct an investigation, so far there is no data on whether it or how it ended, but no one from the ministry

of digital transformation wanted to go to the committee in order to give some explanation, just for us. said that they contacted usa today, which wrote the article, and told them that the information that the newspaper provided was not true, uh, and therefore, we can say that the russians were not able to hack the action at the beginning of the war, we cannot say that, because there is no information yet, but... at our request, after the verification should have been carried out, well, for now we are waiting, obviously the review takes some time and... and if it is not given any information by the end of august, i will raise the question at the committee, of course, so that

there is either a re-appeal or that the chairman of the committee insists on the authorities to which it was application, provide all information regarding the verification of the possibility of data leakage, mr. volodymyr, president zelensky recently announced... serious personnel changes in the government, before that svyredenko said that yes, her role would be strengthened, well, in short, many, many different signals are happening, and what is actually happening there is being prepared, is it not being prepared, is it not possible to do this without some kind of vote in the parliament, or is it already possible, i don’t know, you understand, today it is being prepared, and tomorrow it is not being prepared, you know, like the anecdote about how two... policemen they go in the old one bobik and one says to the other: listen, look, please, mykhailka works on the mountain, he leans out the window, says, works, doesn't

work, works, doesn't work, about the same in the president's office, today it's getting ready, tomorrow it's not is being prepared, because we never know, in general, the verkhovna rada will find out what will happen at the last moment, although supposedly according to the constitution... the verkhovna rada should be the only source of government formation about who will be appointed to the positions of ministers, the verkhovna rada finds out really at the last moment, and today they are talking about one candidacy, tomorrow it may not be, that is, there are 7 fridays a week, so in this case i would simply avoid any discussions of rumors, because tomorrow it is. seems to be untrue. well, well, for example, there has been no minister of culture for more than a year, and everything is okay? well, we have, but we have

an energy minister who failed absolutely everything he could fail, including the decision of the national security and defense council to prepare the energy infrastructure for possible attacks, which was adopted last year, but he remains in office. and we really have a lot of such moments that remain unclosed, or which remain and for some reason are still not closed, in all senses of the word, so in this case there is a question of who is, who is puppeteering the puppets of the monomajority, in office, they will finally appoint someone to the ministry. culture of information or not, what they will do with the minister of energy, whether they will do anything at all with the man derkach, who is already running for the council in

the council of the federation, the russian federation, but his person is now also in the position of minister of energy and even another person of his is in charge of energoatom, and therefore in this case there is simply too much. there are questions for them, but today you will receive one answer, tomorrow another, so until it is an accomplished fact, to be honest , i think it is pointless to comment on anything, listen, and about the golusch, the goluschenka of this herman, and, he is his, when appointed, only european solidarity and one non-factional deputy, geolaros, voted against it, and all the rest voted for him, the entire opposition platform for the future voted for him. the trust group, the homeland even voted for him, and the servants of the people, all who were present, voted for him with their words, he was just a minister elected by the constitutional majority, and you say that he is not

able to cope, and i really am, that's what the secret is galushchenko, a person who recently, for example, got into scandals and quarrels with the media, when it was obvious that there was an accident and he... continued to deny that there was an accident, and began to run into all the media that published this information, that they were dispersing the enemy and pso, and now, in principle , it is difficult to even understand the power outages, which were more connected with this accident or with the russian shelling, but just well what is the secret of such people as galushchenko, he is a person who was brought to him by all this great top management andriy derkach, i really don't know, maybe derkach, by the way, i read that he is running for the state. to the duma in the next elections, andriy derkach, the one who was a deputy, so he can maybe they are just waiting for derkach to become some kind of minister in his mind, for example, in the energy sector,

for example, in the russian federation. then we will have normal contact, we have galushchenko, they have derkach, we will come to an agreement, maybe zaporizhia as will be handed back, well, in this case, i am quite a comfortable and obedient person, and i think that there is someone who manages energy in the office of the president, in particular this role is now assigned to rostyslav shurma, a former regional, and he quite... copes with, let's say, meeting the needs of his bosses in all absolutely possible options that can be satisfied by an official of such a high level. now, let's look at the attempts, well , what is being done in the so-called energoatom, which is actually under the personal wing of minister hlushchenko, we saw these tenders and considered them at the temporary investigative commission on issues.

procurement in wartime, then i will tell you that it is simply, well, simply a waste, hundreds of millions, inflated prices, that is, everything that can only be imagined, there is a full rampage of corruption in matters of these laws, and there i am i'm not talking about purchases for the occupied zaporozhye station, the nuclear station further on. the draft law on the completion of the khmelnytsky nuclear power plant, which provides for the transfer of the russian -made rbmk reactor by rosatom from bulgaria to ukraine, is a terribly expensive project, but at the same time it cannot be completed because there are too many components and too many nuclear experts wrote about it . the energy system

of many components is not there in the boy, in particular steam generators, this is one of the main nodes, that is, well, the park that spins turbines, then after it is heated by the boiler of the nuclear plant, it is so simplified for you with such schemes, and these steam generators can be bought with euros, let's do it twice, and will russia sell it to us or sell it a second time, why should we buy anything at all? in russia, even when the blocks of the nuclear power plant, this is this is this is the money that will definitely go directly to the financing of the russian army, this is obvious, that is why in this case these corruption things, now they removed this bill on the completion, because it clearly carries corruption risks, huge corruption risks, but here you are do you have an answer to why holoshchenko is being held, because he draws a lot of schemes, and

schemes at that. even with the participation of the russians, mr. volodymyr, thank you for this conversation, volodymyr ariv, people's deputy of ukraine, was in touch with us, well, now is the time for news. kateryna shirokopoi appears, which means that we will learn what happened there in ukraine and the world. greetings olesya, greetings andria, we have a lot of operational information, we will now quickly inform our viewers so that only espresso viewers know everything first, so wait. news time on the espresso tv channel. kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio. in the morning, russian troops shelled kherson and aimed at a high-rise building. this was reported by the head of kherson ova ole.