despite the fact that it has been waging a war with ukraine for more than two years, it cannot even close the entire line of its border, and this is a very good signal for our many international partners, moreover, ukraine shows an opportunity in this case, ukraine shows strength, ukraine is showing determination, and this means that our western paskas are too. must take into account this subjective position, which means that you will force us to sit down at the negotiating table under some pressure, well, it is practically unreal. mykhailo podolyak, adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, believes that the reaction russians on the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine demonstrates the true attitude of the russians to the war with ukraine and the putin regime, i quote podolyak. events in kursk and belgorod regions give. we will be able

to set up a certain laboratory experiment, while the repressive machine of the russian federation burns in the bushes, freed russians can come out with flowers to meet the anti-putin tanks. finally the will, we will wait for such shots, although the impossibility of this is already obvious, therefore the lack of an adequate reaction to the counter-war will only confirm our opinion about a strong, conscious relationship between the russians and their government, but why, mr. viktor, is there not? who come out there with joy to meet the ukrainian troops, and do people in general somehow understand why the war that putin launched in ukraine in 2014 returned to their territory? i think there is no reason for causality, moreover, polls still show that the majority, the vast majority of... i don't want to say

that the entire population, but the vast majority of the population supports putin's actions, unfortunately, and the percentage of those who oppose war with ukraine, and the percentage of those who do not support putin's actions, it still does not exceed 20 points, this means that russian society is hopelessly sick, it means that since 2000 . wash it, that now it is impossible to hope that something will turn on, the tumbler will turn on, and immediately people will start thinking otherwise , so, by the way, i think that, taking into account this fact, putin was releasing russian oppositionists from... that's why that he

understands that there is great harm in this they will not transfer the deep people, that is , they will not influence people who have been washed, i repeat, informationally for many, many years. against this background, serhii shoigu, who visited iran, complained that ukraine, they say, ignores putin's proposals, which he voiced, or simply put, a capitulation plan for ukraine. when four oblasts are to go to the russian federation, and the armed forces of ukraine are to leave these regions, given this rhetoric of shoigu, does this mean that putin is not ready for any negotiations at all, and does not want these negotiations, and all this talk about a peace summit with the participation of the russians at the end of the 24th year, this is only a wish of the world. of the community that pushes

zelensky to this? in fact, i do not evaluate shoigu's visit to iran so unambiguously, because it seems to me that shoigu came to iran, not only to talk about something asian. i think that sholgo came as putin's envoy to speak , among other things, about russia, to... give russia the opportunity to return to the negotiating table with a western country, namely, that iran, in this case, allow to be a negotiator on behalf, on his behalf, with western countries, and accordingly, that this card, the far east, that it, or the middle east, rather, that it be... played

by putin in such a way that he will represent this near east, and he will be just the person who can come to an agreement. and with israel, and with the united states of america, and with saudi arabia, and with other countries, that is, i think that shoigu's visit in this case was used solely as an excuse to persuade iran to give russia such a mandate for negotiations. belorussian dictator oleksandr lukashenko at a meeting of the council of ministers of internal affairs of the member states of the commonwealth of independent states. walls of independent states, assumed the possibility of the collapse of russia. let's listen to what lukashenko said. a permanent hybrid war is being waged against our peoples, and each of the cis countries has already experienced at least one color revolution, which is essentially an attempt

at a coup d'état. the situation may develop in such a way that any of our states cannot do without this unity, and if we do not understand it today. lukashenko says that if russia falls, we will all be uprooted drawn in, although he has already broken out, and russia is falling, what does this mean for the cis, that is, lukashenko says that let's all fight against ukraine together, and we will remember the csto and... perceive the events in kurshchyna as an attack on one of the members of this organization collective security agreement? putin has repeatedly attempted to create any organization that would be

an adversary of nato. it was, indeed , an attempt to use the csto countries that you mentioned, these were opportunities to... create some more parallel unions, so far they it is not possible to record this, we are talking about some axis of evil, yes, to which we include iran, plus north korea, plus china, but as for the closest neighbors of russia, here it looks like... .. and lukashenko and putin are constantly scaring this with these color revolutions, i have the impression that this is a big point for them, well, lukashenko has already sold, including in his own society, the society that called it protests during the elections, which

on which svitlana won by all indications tykhanovskaya, there were that they were organized by... in the same way, putin also said a lot that the trojan revolution in georgia was organized by the west, that the maidans in ukraine were organized by the west, that was all, so i absolutely do not even pay attention to these words, because they have this fear sitting inside, tell me, mr. viktor, does this mean that lukashenko already feels that the collapse of putin... it is possible that he will, and in this way he is trying to play the role of a person who wants unite everyone, say, let's all be together, he himself is already looking at china, which, by the way, is one of those partners of belarus in europe,

china and several eastern european countries, which allows lukashenka to distance himself a little from putin and understand that he can have a future even without putin. well, actually , lukashenka doesn't have that many options to play with, that is, on the one hand, he really depends on russia in many ways, on the other hand, you remember, even his visits to china took place, that is, he is trying at least somewhere have additional support, of course, that is among the former countries. where it is difficult for him to count on this support, because even among the presidents who are included in this, in this current community, there are few who are too eager to have direct business with lukashenka, because they consider him an object, not

a subject object of politics, taking into account that it is easier to negotiate with russia than with lukashenko individually, therefore all... these attempts, they have already been, as leonid kuchma said, it has already happened, so there is nothing new here, lukashenko is trying to play on different platforms. .. so he tries to show at least some subjectivity, because even a year ago we remember that everything was going to the point that these two countries could actually be managed from one center. thank you, mr. viktor, it was viktor shlinchak, chairman of the board of the institute of world politics. friends, during the entire broadcast, we conducted a survey and asked you about the following: do you follow the events on the course? so, the results of the television survey: 94% yes and 6% are not

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propaganda. the real front program with taras berezovets every saturday at 21:30 on espresso. hello, my name is yuriy fizar and this is an espresso interview. usually to this studio i... ask interesting guests in order to talk with them about interesting topics, and today, my interlocutor is the extraordinary and powerful ambassador of the republic of estonia in ukraine, anneli kolk. i talk with her about important things, about mutual relations between estonia and ukraine, about the help we received, continue to receive, and i am sure we will continue to receive from our brotherly country, and about many other things. madam ambassador, i congratulate you, thank you very much for joining me today, for coming here. thank you, thank you so much, i sincerely thank you for

inviting me, thank you, look, the first question will be, here is estonia compared small country, if compared with other european countries, of course there are smaller ones, but estonia is small, but despite all this, we received a lot of help from your country, both financially and militarily, what is this, i don't know, paradox, maybe why is that so, or is it because of the knowledge of the story, or maybe there is something else hidden in it? yes, of course, one of the main reasons is... because we have a common history, we were occupied by the soviet union, we lived together under occupation, we know what assimilation is, de-russification, and the soviet union tried to erase, eradicate our language, our

culture, and we know what to do with our common neighbor. of course, this was one of the reasons, but i think the main reason why estonia helps, has helped and will help ukraine is that estonians love ukrainians very much, we admire how you are against this russian evil, behave as you fight bravely and decisively against... with brutality, with genocide, with war crimes, and i think that is the biggest reason why estonia wants to help ukraine, and this brutal war has been going on for more than two years, and

estonia's admiration for ukraine is growing even more, growing because you continue to defend your country, fight for... all this is very expensive and very close to estonians, and it's on the one hand bad that this shared history that you mentioned unites us, on the other hand it's good that it unites us because we feel how close we are to each other, even despite the fact that we are separated by some, some kilometers separate us and none the less, but still talking about help, are there any statistics, how much exactly... or financial we have already received so far from the republic of estonia. yes, of course, there are very reliable statistics. estonia has provided more than €26 million in humanitarian aid since the start of the full-scale invasion.

and this is like government, state aid, aid from the private sector and ordinary ordinary citizens. as for military aid, it has already reached more than 500 million, if compared with gdp, estonia provided aid for more than 1.3% of its gdp, which means that we are one of the most active countries that supports ukraine, in addition, the estonian government has decided, for example. last year that you, they will allocate for the next four years, annually, 0.25% of our vek for ukraine, precisely for military aid, for reconstruction, so our aid will definitely continue, and estonia will do everything

possible to increase humanitarian and other aid to ukraine. to that i can only answer in estonian, i will try, madam ambassador, don't criticize my accent too much, tanantei dvaga, for all that estonia does for us, but look, one more moment, a few months ago, the estonian parliament passed a law and then the president of estonia ratified this law, which allows the use of frozen russian assets to compensate for the damages that russia has caused in this war of aggression in ukraine. several months have already passed, i think two months have passed since this law came into force, have there been any transfers, this is the first question, to ukraine, i mean, and the second question is whether other western countries have taken an example from estonia, because estonia was the first western one the country that passed such a law. yes,

of course, estonia was one of the first countries that started talking about the need to use frozen russian assets to restore ukraine because the aggressor has to pay a price for it, and we were the only one. from the first countries, which two years ago said that we need to start the reconstruction, restoration of ukraine, already during the war, we don't need to wait until it ends, because we need to give people hope and help refugees, those who left ukraine, and then we started to return tried to understand... to analyze all possible ways to make russia pay the price for the damage it caused to ukraine, and we were pioneers in

introducing such legislation regarding the use of frozen russian assets for the recovery of ukraine, and these assets are not only state assets, this is the property of private individuals and... all those who are under international sanctions, the law was passed recently, and the regulatory processes are still ongoing, since everything must comply with international rules so that we do not caused extra problems for ukraine in the following years, so we are working on it now. and i think we 're making great progress in that direction, i hope we can demonstrate to the whole world that it's possible, that you can use all

the frozen assets and the profits from those assets, not just the direct profits for what we just held these assets before, and you set a very great example for western countries by passing... this law, and other countries in your opinion, personal opinion, why they have such laws not approved, just your personal opinion, out of fear, or is something else possible? it's very difficult for me to say why certain countries do something or don't do something, but i think that... there are still some legal issues, legal issues that countries are discussing, but estonia really, our

national legislation tried to do so , in such a way as to prove that we can do it without violating european or international legislation. i really hope that the western partners will see this and will not delay similar laws will be passed. in their own countries, but now we move on to another, the post-war reconstruction of ukraine, after all, even this reconstruction is already underway in different parts of ukraine, including those that were under temporary occupation in the first days of the war. tell me, please, does estonia have any projects, in this case state or non-state projects, with which it helps to rebuild ukrainian cities and villages. yes, yes, of course, as i already said, we started this work already in the 22nd year, and all these projects

related to reconstruction in ukraine began then, in particular, in the zhytomyr region, this is conditionally our region, our region, since estonia is a small country, and we have limited resources, and we thought that we should approach... the issue of restoring ukraine very comprehensively, so we chose one region for ourselves , one region, and we provide assistance for reconstruction right there, we helped build a new kindergarten, and we conduct training for teachers, educators, so that such assistance is long-term, not just to build. one house or one shelter, but to help in such a way that it is long-term and covers problems with

some. a specific region is regretted , of course, well, but we talked about the money that goes from estonia, or, for example, the military support that goes from estonia to ukraine, let's talk now about the help that ukrainians who are currently in the territory of the republic of estonia receive , do you have any statistics at this very moment, how many citizens of ukraine are there and is there any tendency to return to ukraine? yes, of course, we have statistics on ukrainians currently living in estonia. and we gave them from the first day they arrived in estonia, any help, all the help we could give, it's medical care, social protection, education, we also opened

two. special schools, specialized schools for ukrainian children, where they can be educated in the estonian language, but keep their language, their culture, and can study according to the ukrainian curriculum, so we are trying to do everything for ukrainian refugees who stay in estonia for that they do not lose this connection with their country, with their own. of course, we have other plans and projects, but the main slogan of the government is that it is necessary for ukrainians to feel that they are welcome here in estonia. and i can confidently say that ukrainians in estonia definitely feel that they are welcomed in this country, since my daughter has been living

in the territory for more than two years. of the republic of estonia, she studies there and she knows how estonians think, how estonians help and yakonians try to do everything to bring our joint advance against the russian aggressor. and now a little about the victory: in estonia, apart from women and children, of course, there are many men who , er, received, this is not temporary shelter, temporary protection, it is called, as far as i understand in estonia, please tell me now.. . in many, at least eastern european countries, it is said that they somehow try to cooperate with the government of ukraine in relation to men who are subject to conscription and who are required to serve in the military in order to somehow help these men, well at least register in ukraine, in the relevant authorities, and maybe even return to ukraine, is there something similar in estonia? yes, such discussions, such requests

started coming some time ago, but our previous prime minister said that because people are living in estonia legally, we gave them temporary permits for... for residence and temporary protection, and we we do not plan to send them back to ukraine, because we have rules, we have obligations, and this also comes from european legislation, that is, plans in we are not sending them back to ukraine,

but in this sense we are cooperating with the ukrainian authorities, with the ukrainian embassy in tallinn, and we understand that there are needs in ukraine, but i think that many ukrainians living in ukraine, they they want to go back to their country, they are waiting for this possibility, for opportunities, to return, this was one of the reasons why we... so early reconstruction, so that people can see the perspective of the future, we have kindergartens, our local communities, etc. , to make it easier for people to return, of course we cooperate with ukrainian authorities, in order to understand how to help ukrainians, but as i say, we are not from...