has been active in recent years, but it should still be more systematic. friends, i remind you that we are working live and conducting a survey, today we are asking you whether you think ukrainian diplomacy is effective, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you have have your own opinion, a separate opinion, please write in the comments under this video, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers 0800 211 300. 71, if you think that the ukrainian effective diplomacy, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, and we continue our conversation with politician and diplomat valery chaly, let's talk, mr. valery, about lukashenka, because lukashenko made a statement at a meeting of the council of ministers of internal affairs. of

the cis member states, he suggested the possibility of the collapse of russia, let's listen to what the belarusian dictator said about it. a permanent hybrid war is being waged against our peoples, and each of the countries the cis has already experienced at least one color revolution, which is essentially an attempted coup d'état. the situation may develop in such a way that any of our states without this unity, mr. valery, well, it seems that lukashenko should have stated that russia is already in the abyss and they are also together with russia, but there is not a single word here about the events that are unfolding in kursk, about the csto, about cooperation. within the cis,

russia's aid, why isn't lukashenko talking about it now, i think he will be in this abyss himself, he is trying to jump out now, i congratulate these efforts, what he says is one story, and what he does is actually a little different, in this context there are more such statements by the polish, for the sake of s... gorski, i.e. lukashenko, they give signals that he can still to stand on the edge of the abyss, if he behaves correctly, as for other heads of state, why he is pulling them along, that he is signing for them, i think that they do not think so, they have china, by the way, the same lukashenko is also from china, he considers now as his... suzerain who will save him

from putin, it is realistic in this situation, because pay attention to the training of the chinese together with the belarusians recently, that is , this happened after putin, without informing sizenpin, went to north korea, so everything is not so simple there, but he needs to speak such things, because he, you see, in which composition and at which meeting he is the head... well, i think that lukashenko still dreams of leading a union state with russia, well, it seems to me that two styles are so strong not satisfied that he still has to choose, or his personal safety the future, and then some bridges with western countries and distancing from putin the war criminal, or he will then be in this precipice absolutely, and the fact that he wants to drag others down, well... i think they are smart, they will not

act on it, but what happened in kurshchyna means that the csto, which putin flaunted so much, is dead, right, because in principle, if russia had the support of this, this collective security organization, the treaty on collective security, probably there were some other actions, i understand that none of the countries. which is included in the csto not in is not in a position to help russia now, well , the csto died earlier, this organization, and clearly such a cross was laid when they did not help armenia in the war with azerbaijan, that is, in fact, they did not come to the defense of a member of the csto, armenia, it was obvious to everyone, they all destroyed this...

everyone in the csto perfectly understands the position, so that you understand, these countries, except for russia, are not there because they expect help from russia, no, they are there because... now already , although it was once on the southern borders, islamic radicalism threatened some there other things, now they are there, fearing that their exit from there will have consequences from russia, that is, they are now there simply to appease russia, and not to take part, especially in the war against ukraine, this is all unrealistic, yet , mr. valeriu, we... are now watching the unfolding of the presidential campaign in the united states of america, we see how the team of kamala harris is being formed, she has decided on a vice president and a candidate for the position of vice president, he became tim walls, and we see that in in obviously in

september we are expecting such and such televised duel between trump. and garis on september 10, there will be a tv debate on abc news, but we are interested in the czech republic, of course, all of these events in the context, in the ukrainian context, zelensky personally had a rather difficult relationship with trump, it was in 2019, when zelensky spoke with trump on the phone and trump asked him to ... assist in the case against hunter biden in the case of burism, this week the publication appeared in the half where simon schuster talks about the eve of the great war, that is, the munich conference in 2022

, and not difficult dialogues or difficult disputes between president zelenskyi and vice president of the united states kamala gary. how do you assess, as a person who knows very well how the american political machine works, how these mutual misunderstandings between zelenskyi, trump, zelenskyi and garis affect the bilateral relations of the two countries? i am very worried that we are still in a different paradigm of election evaluation, and... i am trying to change it on every show, and so far i can't, the fact is that for ukraine it is not so important who will win in this situation, it is more important for ukraine, what will happen in terms of the supply of weapons, financial assistance from the united states, and by the end of the year, and in the next, in

this sense, there will be turbulence in the states, and you know that we have there is no tool, we do not have a difference. funding projects, we all talked about this package last year, now no one raises the question, but where is the package in the summer, it already arrives on october 1, the budget year in the usa, we do not have funding, we do not have sufficient amounts in the budget for the next year, we don't even need 60 there or 40 that nato promised, and next year russia allocates 100 billion dollars for the war, only for the armed forces, that is... lendlease, there is no law, lendlease that law has ended, there is no new accepted, no one raises this issue, so i am very concerned that our focus is not only journalistic, journalistic is understandable, because it is interesting to discuss, we now have all the experts on football,

the olympics and the politicians of the united states, and what's more, everyone is discussing technology, but no one has named who it will be candidate for vice president from kamala haris, no one named. but everyone continues to be specialists, they continue to discuss, well, that’s why it ’s like this, you know, a fan will talk about another country, we don’t have our own presidential elections, then we’re bored, then we want to talk about others, and there are other problems, how can we even move on from this november 5, because a large part of trump voters do not want to give up power in any vote, they want to get it. and on the other hand, on the left, on the side of kamal harris , more voices are raised, also in the other side, so the turbulence will be sky-high, and the shutdown can already be said to be 90% profitable, and the shutdown, i will remind you, when these budgetary organizations did not work and

part of the military did not work, then the rate of arms supply decreased, that is , our risks increased including what the configuration will be. power in the usa, if it will be four options are actually, and it can be a republican, the president, the senate can be with him, then he appoints. there are no people and balance levers, but maybe the senate is in favor democrats, and then there will be other people, compromise figures will appear, it may be the other way around, that the lower house will be for another party, or everything will be concentrated in the hands of one person, the democrat president and he will have everything and also a republican, i.e. these are four different scripts, and american sponsors are not worried about the presidential campaign right now. sponsored mainly by districts, districts now, well , congressional elections, because the distribution of forces will

depend on it, and joseph biden left because of this, he, well, he was pushed out, because of this, that is, and by the way, by the way, there may still be surprises, regarding the fact that, after all , you asked, i answer, personal moments that were before, arise, they are in... happen, but i claim that they are not decisive, first of all , interests are decisive, and in the united states it is a bright diplomacy of interest now, and i can confirm this, there can be smiles, there can be some friendly relations, but as long as your national interests coincide, if the interest national united states disagreed with the ukrainian strategic national interest, then no good relations will help you, so we need

to look at developing institutional cooperation, indeed, with democrats, with republicans, and personally with various groups, by the way, there is no single team, as it is not surprising when the president and vice - the president, they have their groups around them and the foreign policy of their group, there will still be many questions, and now a serious one is happening. competition and friction some occur, this is a normal process, but globally, i reiterate and want me heard, everyone heard that it is not so important who will win the white house, you can work with either candidate, how important it is that we do not stop the amount of aid from the usa, weapons, financial, and political support, and ... andrii yermak, who was already mentioned, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, in an interview with european pravda, said

that on the eve of the elections in the united states of america, ukraine is working with the democratic republican parties to inform about events in ukraine. let's listen to what he said fair. we greatly appreciate, first of all, the support of the entire american people and the bipartisan support that we have in congress, and definitely. today, we are working with the entourage, with people from the staff and candidate donald trump and even before the nomination, but already the candidate from the democratic party for vice president kamala harris. it is very important for us that both headquarters, both candidates, people around clearly understand, first of all, even, i would say so, on a daily basis. and with the help of our embassy in the united states, what is happening in ukraine, clearly understood, on

what stage the war is in, clearly understood our strategy, and to be honest, it seems to me that it is very important that both candidates really have a plan, a plan for ukrainian victory, but the last sentence, mr. valery, confused me the most, because... yarmak says about the fact that the two candidates should have a plan for ukrainian victory, well, i don't mean the plan that zelenskyi has, but they should have their own plans for ukrainian victory. could it be that both this candidate and that candidate may have their own plans, zelensky still has his own plan, well the ukrainian government must, probably, must have its own clear plan, not just these 10 points that were declared by zelensky, but a real plan for ukrainian victory. then both kamala garis and donald trump will understand what the ukrainian state actually wants, point by

point. it seems to me that there is nothing to comment here, because what we heard were such familiar words, i.e. correct words, it is good that the conclusions were drawn, it is bad that andriy yermak did not hear me in the 19th year and almost got into a scandal with by impeachment, it's good, what do you do now... draw conclusions and now if only they are somehow trying to be equally distant, the only point here too... they would not bend here in the other direction, because it is better to be equally close, and not equally distant from the two headquarters, and i will tell you, for example, well, good words, in the question immediately arises for me, how did we work at the congress of the republicans, yes, one ambassador, well, it is not enough

work, absolutely not enough, here... there should be political support at the congresses, political parties should be, how did the office of the president work and andrii borisovych personally under these conditions, took and blocked the trip of people's deputies of ukraine to the republican congress, well , opponents, yes, well, we didn't want opponents to be there, well, okay, well, if you don't have your own representatives of the servants of the people party, then why do you block opponents, realizing that you will not be replaced by anyone, well ... it is to use an external platform, but i don’t know for internal political struggle, well, this is yesterday, so i want conclusions to be drawn in this regard, well, externally, everyone speaks with one voice in principle, everyone helps the country, therefore, words are not enough, the result must be seen, it is bipartisan, bicameral

support, repetition as a mantra of all this, we do not have a stable bicameral... is there bipartisan support, no, we do not have a plan for the victory of ukraine under trump, there is no plan for the victory of ukraine under kamala garis and there is no plan for the victory of our national or defined national ukrainian, there is a formula of ten points, a good basis, i divide these points, there i have a question, how to guarantee further destruction from the russians, well, i have my own proposal. membership in nato, yes, that is, in principle there is a base, but realistic and such scenarios are different assessment of the situation is done in some groups, but so that the office of the president, well, if they gathered such a closed in-depth discussion, they do it through some orders

to non-state structures, but very sporadically, here we need to communicate directly, they had no such desire... well, i don't trust words anymore, i want to see actions. thank you, mr. valery, and we haven't mentioned orbán for a long time, and we should mention him this week, because a group of 67 meps appealed to the european commission with a call for restrictive measures against hungary due to budapest's decision to simplify the entry procedure for citizens. and belarus, i will quote what the members of the european parliament say: we call on the european commission to take urgent measures to investigate hungary's decision, because it could become a loophole, potentially endangering the functioning of the schengen area and its role as a safe place for citizens. if the hungarian government refuses

to change its policy, the european commission and all representatives of the eu must put under. doubt the presence of hungary in the schengen area, it is stated in the published letter, well , simply put, hungary, despite all reservations, despite all restrictions from european countries, allows belarusians and citizens of russia and belarus, simplifies the entry procedure for citizens of russia and belarus, as a result of which europe may face a new number. russian spies, killers and those people who can come to europe there and do certain actions of their own, what do you think, mr. valery, that europe can do with hungary, apart from excluding hungary from the schengen area? ukraine is not a member of the european union,

i can't say what europe should do in order to... uh, hungary, that's what you said, what, what ukraine, what do we have the right to? ukraine, er, being in relations with the european union, including with hungary, in partnership relations, that is, we have only just opened negotiations on accession, but we are in a partnership format, so we are already fulfilling in many respects, joint european foreign policy. security policy, that is, it is one of the positions of the contract of amsterdam, each country that is a member of the european union must coordinate external. e policy, that is, what hungary demonstrably does not do, that is, if, as an expert observer, i say that hungary does not actually fulfill the basic, that is, in this

area, does not fulfill the basic prescriptions, well, but according to brussels, this is already a decision by which in a way to bring it all to mind, because it looks very weak from the outside, well, maybe it is good that it is so... what are the challenges now for the european union to find answers to them, because one country, of course, will not make the weather there, but slovakia looks as if it is possible to catch a fish, not slovakia itself, but the leaders, just like hungary, it is not hungary, it is also its leaders, at the moment, hungary can change, it can change after the elections of its leadership in the 26th year, so this is an attempt to catch a fish in muddy water from all sides, of course. such things that do not contribute to the consolidation of the european union, and it is time, as an observer, to say that it is time to take some measures, it is

obvious, but we have bilateral relations with hungary, we have a common border, it is important for us now to have a maximum solution to the issues that are in our strategic interests, and if hungary blocks our european path, we need to look for solutions through brussels as well and be and defend our own. national interests, do not fall on your knees in front of the hungarian populist offensive line, but defend your position, otherwise what you said now will be written down and demanded from you, as these 11 adverbial points on national law, education and say you don't think, dear our government, that you have slipped something there now, and then they will take it all off your meter, nothing like that, then we will rake it all out, so protect the national interest, there is no need... to break right there really behind closed doors , now focus on ending the war and joining nato. the european union is

a longer way, i claim, without joining nato , no entry into the european union will be effective, it will only be on second-class terms, if we are a member of nato, then hungary and everyone else will speak to us in a completely different way. thank you, mr. valery, for the conversation, it was extraordinary. plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine valery chaly, we are continuing our broadcast, friends, and we are working live on the espresso tv channel, and it is time to fill in the interim, conclusions, or interim survey, the results of the interim survey, today we are asking you about whether you consider ukrainian diplomacy to be effective , these are the results of our television survey, 17% yes, 83% - no, on... we have a ratio of 28% of people who consider ukrainian effective diplomacy, 72%, no, that is, those who

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the second part of the verdict program is live on the tv channel, my name is serhii rudenko, and in this second part we will talk about the following: kurshchyna is on fire. a special military operation is underway in two regions of the border region of russia, which has already had a political effect. this action is humiliating for putin. as an adviser with of national security, andriy yarmak assessed his own role in the system of government in ukraine. so where is the line between the powers of the minister of foreign affairs and the head of the president's office. information weapon. telegram, controlled by russia, is used by enemy intelligence services to influence the ukrainian

audience. how to fight... kremlin propaganda. we will talk about this and other things in the next 45 minutes. i would like to remind you that we conduct polls throughout our broadcast. friends, today we ask you about this, whether you think it is effective ukrainian diplomacy? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you have your own opinion, please leave it in the comments under the video. if you watch us on tv, please pick up your phone or smartphone and vote if you think ukrainian diplomacy is effective. to date, 0 800 211 381 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free vote at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote i want to introduce today's guests of our studio, these are my colleagues larisa voloshina, journalist, political psychologist, larisa, i congratulate you, and andriy yanitskyi, journalist, andriya, congratulations, congratulations, so colleagues, let's start with this survey

, we ask about effective. of ukrainian diplomacy, we are asking about this for a reason, because yesterday andriy dermak gave a big interview to the european truth, he talked a lot about ukrainian diplomacy, we will talk a little more about yermak himself later, but how would you answer the question, do you think effective ukrainian diplomacy as of now, are ukrainian diplomats working effectively, larys, well, i think it's strange, very strange, i think ukrainian. diplomacy, but none the less effective in such circumstances and in such an orchestra. thank you, andriy. i still think that it is not very effective, because in fact , diplomacy in our country goes in two ways, the official one and the informal one, the informal one is run by the president's office, and mr. yaermak, well , the official one is our minister, mr. kuleba, and it seems to me that that it confuses our foreign partners, who are not very smart.

to africa, and not officially going to europe and the united states of america, well, it happens differently and differently, but if i were in the place of our western partners, i would be surprised by such a step of the ukrainian authorities. well, western diplomats and our western partners are surprised by the events taking place in kurtshchyna, a major military special operation has begun in the last three days, now we can talk. that the armed forces of ukraine are involved in this major special operation, but it all started with the fact that the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine did not comment in any way of this event, the ministry of defense, of course, also not, and only the russian propaganda forces reported on the advance of ukrainians deep into russian territory, and even international agencies, international media wrote with reference to russian propagandists b...