to the un security council and say: you know what happened, the war is going on in our territory, and before, in which it was fought, you say that it also happened in your territory before, why are you so excited, uh, suddenly, but if seriously, if you remove this moment of the state border, this, in any case, speaks of the ineffectiveness of the russian state itself and the night owl, because one way or another, and the fact that ukrainian... troops crossed the state border of russia, i.e. russia admits that there is a state border between the sumy region and in kurdish, let's say, she officially recognizes it, and here the troops of some country crossed the state border, occupied several settlements, it turned out that this state border with the country with which you have been waging war for 2.5 years is large and you have been for 10 years with her in a state of confrontation. it

is not fortified at all, your forces cannot fight back, you cannot organize an evacuation, you cannot organize the protection of the inhabitants of kursk from possible shelling of this city, because there is no air defense system effective and system of bomb shelters, and this is all 2.5 years after the start of the great war, that is, by and large, it is the second time. it has a powerful informational effect, because it once again demonstrates the cardboardness of the russian state itself, of course, russia can gather troops, can cross a foreign border, can storm the population centers of another country, we know this in georgia and ukraine, achieve success , because a large part of the territory of georgia, ukraine is under russian control, but at the same time, when russia itself is under attack. she does not know

what to do with this attack, and this, by the way, is not the first time, because i want to remind you that when the soviet union attacked finland, latvia, and lithuania in the late 1930s, to estonia, everything was fine with these attacks, well, it was not so fine with finland, but in any case , a large part of the territory of finland, including the city of viipuri, which is now called vyborgo, was part of the soviet union, but when hitler's germany attacked. .. the soviet union, no one was there for anything ready, by the way, it's very similar, and they invent a word again, treacherous, that's their favorite word, treacherous, the question arises, why the hell do you believe, that's why you believed hitler when you were with him for many years in a serious confrontation, and this act of non-aggression meant precisely that , in principle, germany could attack you, so you agree with it on non-aggression, well , if you... agree with someone on non-aggression,

you have somehow think about a possible attack, somehow take some measures, but this history is not for stalin, why do you believe that ukrainians cannot cross a certain section of the border if you are at war with them, why do you believe, what do you believe, in their weakness, in their decency, in their fear, in what are you do you believe that they have broken your faith again, that where did the russian people have such faith that they themselves can attack everyone, no one can attack them, this. very strange, mr. vitaly, maybe they believe in international law and universally recognized borders, on which they usually wipe their feet, but they understand that the world cannot disregard the rules that he established after the second, in these borders, which the russian federation considers a border, so it considers it a border, and it also considers the donetsk, luhansk, kherson, and zaporizhzhia regions to be a border, it also considers it to have that she can move borders, she... can do anything,

the russian federation broke international law, well, great, not for the first time, by the way, you know when in 1918, i apologize for such a long digression, but it's an interesting moment, the russian federation, germany and ukraine agreed on peace, then it was decided where the borders of the russian federation pass, where the borders of independent ukraine, recognized as a ukrainian state, pass. by the bolsheviks, and between these two borders there was a neutral zone, quite a large neutral zone that no one claimed, which, by the way, included the city of suja. so, what are the bolsheviks doing soon? they decide in kursk that there will be a temporary workers' and peasants' government of ukraine, but such a government can no longer exist. kurdish, because

it is a russian city, the center of the province, and if there is a temporary worker-peasant government of ukraine in kurdsk, then the question arises, what, why is it ukrainian, and then the bolsheviks decide, let... bolshevik officials go to suja, so suja became the first capital of soviet ukraine. so everyone says kharkiv, the first capital, no, sorry, suja the first capital, and they immediately announce that this suja is now part of the ukrainian socialist soviet republic and the seat of the first soviet government of ukraine. then, when the court is occupied, it seems to me, the white guard troops, a decision is made that... that the provisional government moves to belgorod, which is then also the territory of the ukrainian soviet socialist republic, and then to kharkiv, and when in 2022 they decided to create the soviet union, the russian bolsheviks say

to the ukrainian bolsheviks: listen, and give judgment , we just borrowed it so that you would have a government there, but now that you are still part of the soviet union, why do you need this territory, let it be the territory of... russia, and so suja, which for several years was part of soviet ukraine , and before that neutral zone between russia and ukraine, becomes part of soviet russia. now the question arises, why can't it be the other way around? why can't the neutral zone be made again, as in 1918, if it already existed? these are very conditional things, you understand, agreements between states, on which international law is based, on agreements between states. you here are the borders of the soviet union, they were drawn absolutely conventionally, simply by the pencil of the people's commissar for nationalities ra of soviet russia, and then of the soviet union, joseph stalin. few people remember that the general secretary of the central committee of the communist party of ukraine held such

a position on november 7, 1917, and all these soviet republics with their borders are exclusively a figment of his imagination. some countries were occupied as to blur the status of the occupied countries, which were the founders of the soviet union, but he created their borders himself, that is why we have a huge number of divided regions, as we understand with you, the territory of donbass is divided, half of donbass is russian. half of donbass is ukrainian, part of donbass is donetsk region, part of donbass is rostov region, half of bukovyna is ukrainian, because stalin so decided to take that part from romania, half romanian, half of galicia ukrainian, half galicia polish, half of slobozhanshchyna russian,

half ukrainian, half of the sumy region russian, half ukrainian. on both sides, if we talk about the russian-ukrainian border, in principle ethnic ukrainians live, that is, in those regions in which the counter-terrorist operation was announced today, the kurdistan, voronezh, belgorod regions, and also, the kurdistan, bryansk, belgorod regions, sorry, and also voronaska, in which a counterterrorist operation was not announced only because it now has a border with the occupied territories of ukraine, and not ukraine itself, which controls it. by a legitimate government, these are the territories of the ancient ethnic settlement of ukrainians, a large part of the districts of these regions, kursk, belgorod, voronezh and bryansk regions, this is part of the ethnic settlement of ukrainians, people from these regions wrote to me in messenger, facebook, or a few years ago in absolutely pure

ukrainian language, the first poet who published a collection of poems in the ukrainian language, mykhailo was in this part of the ukrainian lands in general. tsov, the famous russian folk poet, bart selyanskyi, he started with ukrainian folk songs, because in voronyshchyna people spoke ukrainian, he wrote it down, and wrote poems in ukrainian, then switched to russian. if we talk about the principle of national self-determination, a large part of the territory that has a direct border with ukraine is ukrainian ethnic territory, but in 1991 , when the decision was made. about divorce of the soviet union, it was decided that the union republics should remain within their state borders, the republics that nominally, as independent states, formed the soviet union, and this was the wisest decision, because if you start looking at where is whose ethnic

territory, you can fight everything life, and russia is all surrounded, that's all this vector. ugh, foreign ethnic territories, ukrainian, belarusian, kazakh, whatever you want, but russia itself broke this one. already in the first months after the collapse of the soviet union, they decided to establish control over transnistria, remember? yes, of course. we were a country that supported, unfortunately, transnistria, and the transnistrians supported the gkchcp, but yeltsin still decided that he would support these transnistrian separatists created by the kremlin. you know how the transnistrian separatists thanked him, in october 1993 they sent. armed detachments in support of the congress of people's deputies of russia in order to overthrow yeltsin by armed means,

people with weapons come to moscow from teraspol, who carry out the instructions of the then president, of the self-proclaimed transnistrian republic of igor smirnov, ruslan khazbulatov and oleksandr rutskoi agree with him that they sent an army to moscow, an army to destroy the legitimate government, what happens after october 1993 in moscow? one decides that it is necessary to support transnistria, you don't think it is strange, but if you look at it from a historical perspective, the territory sends bandits to destroy you, and you say, well , they still, we are more interested in keeping moldova is in tension, than to destroy this abscess, and so continues to this day. here is a beautiful illustration: georgia, abkhazia and south ossetia. russia participates. in the coup d'état in georgia, but when eduard shevernadze comes to power, they decide

to punish him for his influence in the past, and do not agree with him on restoring the territorial integrity of this country, support the abkhazian and south ossetian separatists, who, as you know, carry out terrible ethnic cleansing their territories, expelling ethnic georgians. you have a friend a story from the 90s. and then the same, the same tools are applied to ukraine, which means that they themselves do not believe in these borders, they believe that they can redraw the borders of the former soviet republics as they like, because these are not real states. there is only one real state on the post-soviet territory, it is the russian federation, but we can also decide that it is not... and not a real state, what is a state? it's just some scrap of the soviet union. russian

soviet federative-socialist republic, fiction by lenin ostrotskii. they were able to regain their bandit power in this territory, which, by the way, until the beginning of the 30s, no one recognized in this territory. it's just a separatist piece of the russian empire that got down lenin strotsky's throat. they managed to win it back. then. to attack us, of course, kyiv, minsk, the caucasian countries, all this is clear, but it is not a state, and there are two ways for it to become a real state, the russians see this way as returning all the soviet republic in its composition, and i see another way, to give the people of russia the opportunity to decide on their own statehood. to become the younger brothers of this very russian people, moreover, this is the russian people, for all the time

of their history they show such infantilism that they cannot be either an older brother or a younger sister, this is simply, i would say, complex mental, such a difficult mental state, i would say, which does not allow you to be a member of anyone's family, so it is better, it is better , you know, when there is an acquaintance there or, in serious in an alcoholic state, it is still better to live in a separate apartment, then put locks there and do not open even when he comes with another request for 5 rubles, he comes, always comes, we know that, the one who did not live in russia, maybe he doesn't know, but i know for sure, they always come and knock on the door, but no 5 rubles, no, no, you'll drink tomorrow, that's all the state logic. therefore, in principle, i think that this is a bold step, a bold step precisely from the point of view

of demonstrating this cardboardness of russian empire, so-called, which turned out to be no empire at all, but just such a czech machine, incapable, incapable of preparing for anything, where is the russian intelligence, i want to ask, where is the glorious federal security service of the russian federation, started with the valiant comrade bortnikov, where the foreign intelligence service started with... regional comrade naryshkin, how should she send her wife to paris for shopping, here naryshkin is the first to write a list about the name this and this and this. and here is such and such a watch, and such a watch, and such a jacket, and such a coat, huh, but how to find out that there are ukrainian troops in the kurt region, narychkin is no longer interested here, he is interested in shopping, well, i am not talking about bortnik, he certainly does not send his wife to paris, because he is not like that, i would he said, a refined personality like naryshkin, but he could also do his own

business, what do they do there anyway, you can't steal all the time and do nothing, and the general is crazy. no, not really, it means that a regime of complete lawlessness, a counter-terrorist operation is being introduced in these areas was held, let's say, in the north caucasus, which meant that the russian army was operating there, the fsbs generally rule everywhere, they will rule, the impression is that they do not rule, but they ... get the opportunity to act in a situation of complete lawlessness. look, in the north caucasus between chechnya, ingushetia and dagestan on the one hand, and the rest of russia on the other, there was actually a state border. when you crossed the border of, say , the republic of dagestan with the stavropol territory, it seems to be the russian federation, if i don't i'm wrong, you should have shown your documents,

your passport, everything to the world. you were checked by real border guards and policemen and could not miss you. in the direction of real russia, you see, they filtered, found out, interrogated you, checked you against some of their databases, and internally, they could do whatever they wanted there, the counter-terrorist operation regime means that they can without any court sanctions to do anything, to hold you hostage, by the way, you know that this was the most profitable business of the russian generals, they then just... took people hostage in these caucasian families and just got ransom money, uh, and it was all under the guise of the kto regime, because they just announced that you were a terrorist, and then you brought them money, and they they already said that you are not a terrorist, you can be detained by the courts and investigators, they can listen to your phone without any formal sanction, they can even

check your correspondence, they can enter any house, any... you can't help but let them into normal life in moscow, if a policeman comes to you, you have the legal right not to let him in, at least in your own apartment, in the regime of a counter-terrorist operation, as you understand, no one will help you, well, and that's another, and what they are doing now, they are actually announcing in the border region with ukraine as such a separate state, bryansk, belgorod and kursk. region, that is, what they will create there, they will create a border between these regions and the rest of russia, they will decide who is allowed there, let's say that journalists, or some activists or some there are volunteers who want to help someone there, you don’t need to go there, it’s a matter of

national security, go to voronezh, they can not release from there, or... let in whoever they want, or let whoever they want there, they can create a special regime for people from settlements that, say, were under ukrainian control, or are, if these people want to leave their regions, make them special interrogations, etc., they get the possibility of any military actions in this territory without any supervision, that is, if they want to use there... heavy weapons, burn houses, what else, they can do everything, both the army and the fsb, this is absolutely such an idea, you know, as was the case with ivan the terrible, again, i apologize for recalling the story , was the territory of the oprichnina, it would not be quiet and peaceful on the territory of the oprichnina, it was the tsar's territory,

everything else that was outside the oprichnina, there the oprichnina could do anything they wanted, even hanging. by your legs and cut off everything that they wanted to cut off from you, because this is neoprichnyna, and this is the method of government, now putin, in fact, he rules russia as an oprichnina, and the announcement of a counterterrorist operation is a form of taking certain regions outside the scope of the oprichnina, in which it will be possible for the oprichniks to do everything in the world, due to the fact that there is such a danger there, ugh, that's it all because what they can think, maybe... maybe some local residents cooperated with the ukrainian troops, facilitated the transition, maybe there were some agents in the local fsb or border services. in the army or in the local government, you have to check everything, they are looking for it all their life spies, right? and besides, they really need no one to

create an information vacuum, because these residents are already the judge of other cities, they start going somewhere, they start rehearsing: "vladimirovich, save us, we love you so much, we supported you, and why are you throwing us at will, why should anyone hear this, you can clean up some local telegram channel administrators, or tell them what to write, by the way, you may have noticed that the belgorod telegram- channels from when real combat clashes began there and have undergone a certain evolution up to the present moment, they are trying to act within the framework of the vector set by the regional administration, and now it will intensify, and it will be like this from the kursk region, but now i am carefully reading the local telegram channels, the suzhyn , let's say. but i am sure that they will all be taken away from a certain point, as it was with the telegram channels of the same chabekin, and they cease to be sources of information, because you understand that, they are small local channels

that are just sources of information, in us here the sewers were not running, we have a bad mayor here, and when the shelling starts, they start to write out of inertia: listen, we had an airplane here, but we couldn’t leave here, we don’t have buses here, we don’t have trains here, that’s what the local residents say well, they say it, but no one needs it. in russia, they should write ukrainians are bastards, the government is wonderful, we thank our governor for helping us, and this is also part of the counter-terrorist operation regime. mr. vitaly, another interesting observation, perhaps subjective, but it seems that for the russians, you said that in principle for russia as a state, that the territory of, excuse me, the current kherson, ukrainian -controlled, that... that is their kursk region, they are absolutely equal, these are all their territories, just kherson now , well , occupied by the ukrainian army, ukrainian,

yes, on the other hand, to be honest , the exit of russian troops from kherson, with cries, how are we leaving our people there and so on, caused a bigger stir than what is happening in kurshchyna, about kurshchyna for i will observe... russians know less, and it worries them much less than the territories they occupied, specifically ukrainian, because when it came to ukrainian territories, there it was only a matter of the occupation, of a military victory, here it is simply about some territory that someone entered , one must understand that russian society is sufficiently atomized, if you like, and this is an atomized society, it is interesting. first of all , the situation at home is concerned, and if nothing is happening in your region, then the suffering of the inhabitants of another region, really not much, they don't worry much, especially

since the government itself knows better what to do, it will liberate kurshchyna, it will return people to their homes, and now we just have to accept the evacuees, according to official data, 76 thousand people have been evacuated from these regions, by the way, this is the number one task, as you and i all understand very well. at the same time, and the same thing seems to me, it is clear that in some moscow, what is happening there in the kursk region, few people care, it is true, this is such an important moment of russian political life that the revolution never starts from the suburbs, changes never start from the suburbs, all russian changes always happen in the capitals, in 1917 it was petrograd, in 1991... moscow, if you don't win the situation in the capital, you will lose country, but in 1917 moscow was against the bolshevik government, but the bolsheviks took

power in st. petersburg, in st. petersburg, and then they established this power in moscow absolutely calmly after some short-term conflict there, now, if you understand, if some rebellion in petrograd wins , and moscow will remain under the control of the government, then this government will simply be able to destroy any rebellion in petro. glad and vice versa. in 1991, almost all regions of the russian federation supported the gkchcp. moscow did not support it. yeltsin did not support it. and as a result, the top leadership of the soviet union, which was supported by all regions of russia, lost the struggle for power. there is something in this, as you understand, quite interesting. so from this point of view you are right? carson was just as unexpected an event for them as the russian troops have to... a conquered city, there is some border struggle, some problems with the residents of some province, who is to blame for them not living in moscow, i would say such

a referendum. all of russia hates moscow, all of moscow despises all of russia. this is a real relationship in this state from the time of grand duke ivan kalita, and not from vladimir putin, so i would not say that we are witnessing something new. well, well, from the point of view of what is happening in russia itself, we have understood a little, but about the traps that the russian state is currently falling into, you noted, on the other hand, whether we can fall into any traps. i can now be accused of some very careless thoughts there, but nevertheless, when we have specific definitions of the specific borders of a specific country and declare ourselves as a country that adheres to international law, can we be reproached with the fact that we are not just protecting our , and that we essentially violated this international law by crossing the russian

border or. or how, how, how not to fall into the trap as well, in fact, and why no one criticizes, because it seems to me that this episode of kursk, it just illustrates that everyone is very careful in their statements, kirby from the white house says, but we still have to figure it out, we will receive information now from the ukrainian military, although it is difficult to imagine that they do not know what is happening in kursk, but no one says, you know, we consider it unacceptable. on the territory of the russian federation, however, not a single person said this, not even lukashenko, yes, lukashenko did not say about him separately, well , look at how international law looks like if aggression is carried out against your country, and if a country that is an aggressor accumulates military resources, manpower and equipment on its territory to continue this aggression, then you have a full legitimate right to enter the territory of this country for the purpose of destroying the enemy's military force, equipment and manpower.

in this territory, where it is preparing for a further attack, and by the way, this is what the russian federation was guided by when it announced a special military operation in 2022, it said that it wanted to protect the people of donbass, and in order to protect the people of donbass, it is necessary enter the territory of ukraine and to destroy the military potential of ukraine so that it no longer bombs donbass, right? ugh, that was the idea, russia recognized our state. our borders, as if they said, but there is a ukrainian army that is bombing the unfortunate children of donbas, we will destroy it, and everything will be fine again, also dalat, by the grace of god, we say the same thing, we absolutely do not need the kurdish region, we need to destroy the enemy's military equipment and manpower, which is concentrated in the territory of the regions of the russian federation bordering ukraine, that's all, and here it is very difficult for some reason to note, because in... any

war, the one who started the escalation, who started the aggression, is guilty, he is responsible both for the victims on the territory of the country he attacked, and for the victims on his own territory, during world war ii, among the victims of the war there was a lot of the civilian population of germany, by the way, why did we all enter its territory, it was its territory, we could have stopped somewhere on the borders of germany, the soviet union. great britain, the united states somehow did not stop. yes. ot. but for victims among the civilian german population, who is directly responsible? adolf hitler. who is directly responsible for the victims among the russian civilian population? vladimir putin. i talked a lot with germans who said: listen, what a horror it was in the days when the allied armies entered germany, especially the soviet army, the sight

of rape. women, murder, mass torture, literally, just horror, i told you, i totally agree with that, it's unbelievable horror, by the way, horror what happened on territories of ukraine, belarus, lithuania, poland, other countries, all this is horror, indescribable, the horror of the suffering of the civilian population, but i am very sorry if your grandparents did not support the national socialist workers' party of germany in the elections, did not give it a mandate . had not even started a war of aggression against your neighbors, all your grandparents, relatives would be alive, you started it, you were guided by a sense of injustice in relation to the results of the first world war, but you could understand that after, as you satisfy your sense of injustice, such catastrophes may begin in your life, in comparison with which the injustice of the first world war will seem to you flowers against the background of mass rape and torture.