bam and savings there are discounts until independence day on citramon darnytsia 10% at podorozhnyk bam and oskad pharmacies. dear friends, we are back and starting our next and final hour for today in the marathon on the espresso tv channel. lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk. we are working for you in this studio for the next 26 minutes, and in these minutes we will talk about... here, to start with, i want to give you a small summary of what we have collected with you today, so 52,000 is as of now, since this morning, we have accumulated so much, this is not the best result for this week, the best was yesterday 82,000, and so far this is not the second result for this week, because this week it somehow happened that you and i collected 57,000, well , but you still have half an hour, 26 minutes, to be exact, so that this... the situation can be corrected and

it is possible to make it so that on sunday we make the second result in terms of the number of collections for whom we are collecting, let's remind, let's show our viewers the qr code, we are collecting for three brigades of the 110th, 47th , the third separate assault, now you see the qr code on your screens and you see all the information, you also see pictures, these are pictures that inform you about what we collect for, collect for drones and for rep systems. what is helpful on the front line, and what exactly those brigades for which we are collecting lost, because they were in the avdiiv direction and suffered huge losses, must replenish their arsenal, and they ask us and you to help them in this, and i hope that very soon the necessary amount, it is quite large, it is 3.5 million, but you and i will collect it together from the first million , in fact, some 160 thousand separate. uah

dear friends, 52 for today, in total we have 839.19 hryvnias, well, if we still donate, there will be a corner of health here, dear ukrainians, we are fighters of the first assault battalion, whom we are gathering, and we can actually listen to them, good hello, dear ukrainians, we are fighters of the first assault battalion of the third separate assault brigade, who... defend our native land on the front lines, we urgently need your help, we need means of radio-electronic warfare against the enemy's small bpola and komikaze drones, very we are asking for your help, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, so do not miss that qr code in the corner, it is here, it can also be scanned, and also this money will go to these guys that you just heard, and meanwhile we let's talk

about education, an expert on educational issues, the founder of the all-ukrainian educational company setsstat, oleksandr kondratyuk joins us, mr. oleksandr, we welcome you, congratulations, mr. oleksandr, a monitoring study called education during the war has appeared, which says that , that in compared to february 2022 , children's anxiety has tripled, and also that teachers note children's poor motivation, that children are not concentrating, that we will have at the exit, first we had a pandemic, and now it is already the third year of the great war and the end of the land, so far that it is not visible how much it worsens the educational level of our children? as a matter of fact, it can be seen in the results of the multitest, and the latest news says that firstly, the number of disqualified persons who did not pass even by 100 points of the nmt increased by about 2-2

times, the news reports that it is 13% who did not pass at least one subject, at the same time you can add 2 + 2 and understand how it actually works last year, for example, in mathematics 100 points could not overcome 4%, which means that if this year at least one of the subjects 13, it is not difficult to understand that mathematics, which is always the leader, was not compiled, although there are no such official data and it is surprising why, but you can calculate that it is 8 - 10%, so that it is 2-2 times worse than last year, not to mention that it is worse than it was, of course, before the war with the results, and the reason here is not only the anxiety of children, not only poor knowledge in schools, but also the simple reason for the complexity of the multitest and not quite clearly informing parents about it, where they live in a certain delusion, not preparing their applicants for the nmt, and then it turns out that the situation is much more complicated , than was drawn, in addition, there are other statistics, in particular on... i

analyzed recently, also compiling the small amount of information that is generally submitted to the public space for some reason, they showed that, they say , the number of two-day workers in the regions she grew or something, but she was praised. that they say there is, and if you also add all these regional reports that are published on the internet and calculate proportionally for the country, then it turns out that according to my calculations, the number of two-hundred-year-olds in our country is about one and a half or two times higher, because these are approximate calculations, because the data, as i said, there are none, and the worse ones are also about 1.6 times worse, if they are definitely worse, it was conventionally 100, there were 60-70 people there, and this is not surprising, because all this can be seen in the submission of documents, as well as people’s scores, who file with... but slightly worse, on average, if we even look at some rating lists, for example, let's take it specialty 121, the most prestigious, let's take a specific case, there is kpi, a prestigious university in this matter, so the passing score there for one of the most prestigious faculties fell

last year from 196 to 187, and now up to 180.2, i.e. minus 16-17 points of drop in two years, which means that applicants. there is simply not enough, because the budget is roughly in place, no one has cut it, and the conclusion is one and only: there are simply no applicants with good scores, to occupy all these places with a score of 195-190, so they even take those with 180. and we see such things all the time, for example, if we talk about the number of those who enter universities, then there is an interesting paradox here: for example , 6,000 more people registered for the nmt than last year, that is, this... 90,000 more than the first year of the war, that is, in principle, everything should be fine with the introduction. at the same time, only 2,000 of them submitted applications, exactly one third passed the nmt, but did not submit applications. what does it mean, conclusion here is also simple: you can break down into molecules

why this could happen, analyze all the reasons and understand that there is the prestige of the colleges, that there are still somewhere 10-20,000 people, plus these were disqualified, who are not able to submit documents to... , but anyway, well, let us logically justify 40 thousand, and another 40-50 thousand people did not submit documents simply because they probably did not want to, perhaps due to some difficult circumstances, where according to the workload there in their, for example, school in europe or somewhere else, or enter as a whole in europe, and some such reasons are most likely among those people who simply did not want to join, because it is a paradox, when the number of those who join and the number of those who make up... ntt, given that this year's nmt is so different was not mandatory, i.e. it was not written in such a way that just to get a certificate, it was possible in principle not to take it and still get a certificate this year, thus simply some reluctance, some lack of prestige of ukrainian education, unfortunately, has already started

to make its way, they have been talking about it for years, and with year after year the number was normal, this is the first year when there was a significant drop, you know, if you take the figures for kharkiv, just what i read... about one in four children are now abroad, they will not go to school on september 1 , this is 55 thousand per city, if taken on the scale of the whole of ukraine, compare with the 21st year, how many percent of ukrainian school children will study abroad on this basis, in fact it is very difficult to compare even this, because it is not clear who is where in general , we don't have a clear one even now working on it. yes, to understand how many of those kids are learning offline. by the way, we have all heard about this new concept: school offline, such a loud name as if it were something new. in fact , offline school is a well-forgotten old thing, let's say. well , here is this innovation, it aims to bring everyone offline as much as possible, to bring everyone

back to the necessary training as much as possible, you know. at the same time, if you delve into the details of these innovations, it becomes clear that it is not at all about what, for example, local schools will tell them. maximum do everything to make them really learn offline. no, it's still at the discretion of the school's board of education, and one school can be more offline, one completely online, one kind of mixed. and what is this innovation all about, and where are these children, about whom they say that a million are studying with us, still online, where are these people? first of all, these are people, for example, from abroad, and what will happen to them, they will essentially be excluded from their classes and enrolled in special ukrainian studies classes. where they will study only four disciplines: disciplines with in the word ukraine: the ukrainian language, ukrainian literature, the history of ukraine and the defense of ukraine. everything else will be studied by them offline. offline in europe. in this way, they will not really study in the ukrainian school in full, and the english language for writing

is not nmt, they will not study mathematics, for example, and many other nuances in the ukrainian school according to the required program. this, of course, will also be a great stress, when everyone will now learn from september 1 that it will be like this... such a big reform, which on the one hand, of course well, it will relieve them of unnecessary burden, on the other hand, it is capable of separating them from ukrainian society, the second is the internally displaced, also a huge category of people, and there too... there are pluses that these children will be enrolled in local schools, in this way people will study offline as much as possible, well, if the pedagogical council decides so, as he said, it does not mean that everyone, everyone, everyone is offline and with maximum quality, no, but they will be pulled out of their classes, they will be transferred from their schools, there will be no students there, this probably means disturbances in the labor market of teachers, and in this way, people from the occupied territories will study on the ground, and the teachers too, and all the students will be reformatted and can in... their usual circle communication, there are pluses, as i said, at the same time there are also tangible ones for

an ordinary child who you know, she lived all her life somewhere in the kherson region, and now in lviv, so she may be a little uncomfortable, of course, this should be taken care of, of course, the construction of shelters for 2.5 billion, which have already been allocated, and temporarily occupied territories , the people who are there said, we will teach them for such, you know, an individual schedule, that this... means to the end, probably no one knows, because it should be regulated, this is the issue that is the most unregulated there, that is why the concept of an offline school, which is currently being talked about, so that all people as much as possible, as much as possible to return, to make high-quality education, it is for what, it is for quality, but first of all there is no such reform of teacher training, changes in the serserian methods that we inherited 20-30, 40, 50 years ago, they were used, and their changes in first of all and secondly itself: the concept of school offline doesn't quite imply the offline school that people imagine when they hear such an interesting name. and

if we take the ukrainian children who ended up abroad and continue to live there, in particular in neighboring poland, the numbers are also, by the way, very different, they call the numbers from up to 300,000 ukrainian school-age children in poland, some of them up to half can not covered by the polish education system, which means that they did not go to school. studied, for example, remotely via the internet in their schools, or in some other way, but from this everything is changing, the poles and the polish government have made a rather tough decision, and now all ukrainian children of ukrainian refugees will be forced to go to the polish education system, to polish schools in the full-time education system, according to conservative estimates, this is about 60 thousand ukrainian children . they will have to learn the polish language and the lessons will be conducted in the polish language and in principle they will actually be lessons of polish history and

so on and so on, polish literature, they will study like ordinary poles, the only thing is that they will have some lessons of the native ukrainian language and something else as additional electives, but what should we do with those children, is it okay, or will these children, in principle, remain ukrainians after a few years, well, it is possible to really understand what we are in... a bigger problem, in order for people to continue to stay in our higher education system or in colleges there, we should do so that they have the opportunity to prepare well for nmt, people are very scared of nmt, and this is absolutely not surprising, because when you often tell people, they still and often do not know all the complexities, but when they understand how difficult it really is, and when they hear these disqualification percentages, all the more terrible results, to understand that the results of the piza of the international assessment, that the results of the nmt match, and for example on such a ... basic adequate score of 140, in our 2/3 of the country could not write mathematics, and this, if

we talk about last year's nmt, this year's data, as i said, there are no, why is it surprising, but there will probably be soon, there will be some official reports, and we will see them, and this is again , judging by all the signs, there should not be any, you know, a much better number, probably 2/3 again, the same math, even for a basic score of 140 they won’t add up, and to make it clear to everyone soberly, in some places, for example , right... you can’t even apply for a contract if you don’t have 150 points documents you can't, so in fact the system actually becomes more complicated and it's not so bad that it becomes complicated, it selects the best, how bad it is that it's not clear how it functions, it's not clear to the average person absolutely how to become it after all student, there are many myths that the budget is being cut, although it is not cut, and there is no communication about this from official representatives, where the numbers clearly show that it is not, look, in prestigious universities. where you wanted, the budget was not cut in principle, from what i personally saw, the budget became even more,

but everything just changed so quickly, and it was not told to people that the new complex system causes more difficulties and the conclusion in the head , then you can join us better in poland, they say it’s somehow easier there, they will take us there somewhere, and they don’t think so only people who live in poland now, but also many ukrainians who will go and study there, so i was many years before the war. three years before that, i definitely said that when i was asked the question: what about us, well, everyone is abroad, everyone is abroad, everyone is abroad, i said, no, there is a lot of talk about abroad, but in fact, entry into ukraine is all still holding in the right mode, everything is fine, so this year all logical conclusions, compare, and more college entrants, and for example, the same more disqualified and so on, all the same the number of university admissions has fallen so that 40,000 probably just didn't want to, although they could, and this number is really scary, which could mean that we will have big

shortages in universities and colleges and everywhere, because something is missing to our... applicants to make a decision to enter here, and here is this reform of the polish language, and the polish reform, where they will study offline, will integrate them even more into polish society, at the same time, we, on the contrary, push them away for convenience, so that they are less studied, but this convenience can result in that the child will become a kind of half-polish, he will identify himself as a ukrainian less, for this you need to add at least mathematics with english to the list of studies, which are or are likely to be. will be mandatory at the nmt so that she can prepare and enter here without these subjects, and even more she will miss the multitest and she will enter ukraine even less. mr. oleksandr, you talk about considering yourself ukrainian, but if we talk about those children who remain in ukraine, live here, who sit in shelters under russian missiles, who do not sleep at

night, because russian shaheds are flying, and other russian motlug, who... are forced to leave their homes, their parents, who go and defend ukraine, but at the same time, we read, you know, in the news about , that teenagers set fire to military vehicles of the tsk, that teenagers pointed russian rockets somewhere in this or that city, or it turns out now that tiktok is gaining momentum and this is clearly a russian special operation, where the teenagers. dress up and take pictures or film like this boy who is accused of murdering iryna farion, and this is some kind of flash mob called fariov, and these are ukrainian teenagers, and these are children who were born already during independent ukraine, who are now here and for the third year they see what is happening, where, where are we making

mistakes, that these the children do not consider themselves ukrainians and may... i don't know, they may be tempted to aim russian missiles or set fire to a tsk car. well, here you can look at it from two sides, if we talk about the education system, then the problem here is, you know, a strategic mistake, when, for example, our minister said that we do not have to impose the values ​​that we have to be very tolerant, then this is a very, very, very big mistake. in fact, if we do not promote them, russians will impose values ​​on them, and the situation here is very simple, and if a person, you know, how the education system... works, it is often teachers, often even civil servants of the highest ranks in education they say that let the parents deal with upbringing, we will deal with education, that is the mistake, if the parents do not understand that it is not necessary for the child to turn on cartoons in the third year of the war in the russian language, let her learn ukrainian yes, hurry up ukrainian, and this concerns , you know, an indicator, this is actually a deeper

problem, then of course these children, where they can become more sober, more conscious, how they, you know, they are limited then. the worldview of their parents, in order for us as a nation to develop, for our future generations to develop, it is necessary to remove the restrictions on children by their parents, that is, if the parents are not able to understand, then let the education system tell them, let it not just tell the story somehow, well, you know, as much as possible from all sides, where some positive can be said about stalin, well, he once had some positive, let the teacher think, and god forbid, you have to tell everything. as much as possible for ukrainians, it’s not just to know history, it’s to be conscious, sober, it’s to be a patriot, not just to be there like that, i love my country very much, but to really something should be done for her, and for this the education system should not exclusively engage in storytelling mathematics, but to form worldviews, values, but she does not deal with this, and secondly,

if we talk about parents, of course, it is also their business, to start with themselves, to be more conscious of it. it's hard to understand that when your child gets in touch with a bad company, there is an opinion about her now in the modern world, that she can't be there somehow, well, how do i impose or what, it's her friends, then i know her from push myself away and so on, and if you take the example of the first billionaire in the world, who, by the way , financed a university there, then there is a lot about him a bad reputation, there is a good one, the first rockefeller, who became so wealthy from scratch, that is how his children described him, he said, we did not have friends in childhood, we had... the children of his father's friends, that is, he did not shy away from pushing them on the right path, not in any harsh way, but to scold, to say, look, these are worthy people, and there are parents, be friends with them, take over the right thing, and in this way... the children did not start drinking there, taking drugs, what they did, or it is even worse to participate in such flash mobs, and they have also become wealthy, developed people

people, and their lives went on the right path, so it should be understood that there is liberalism, there is loyalty, and this also applies to human rights and so on, but the child should be led to the right thing, somewhere he should be stimulated to learn, somewhere he should be given the right values, and and don't shy away from doing it, here we are. parents don't do it , the education system doesn't do it, and children don't take part in such terrible things. mr. oleksandr, thank you for the conversation oleksandr kondratyuk, expert on educational issues, founder of the all-ukrainian educational sedstav company, was with us. dear friends, thank you for being with us, we collected 53 00 with you today. we already have 840,119 hryvnias, out of the 3.5 million required, lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk, worked in this studio today for you and throughout this week. thank you for being with us this... week, and remember, here is that qr code, you don't have to pass it, but you have to scan it and pass it on as much as you can to help our troops,

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it looks like now. i don't spend money at the moment, about how to unite the country in the process of recovery in the project of the urban reconstruction and development program, every saturday at 18:30 for espresso. congratulations our viewers, today i am artem logutenko on the air with you, and we will talk about, i will not be afraid of this wording, a special military operation against the demi'. in russia, roman pohorily is a guest with me today, he is the co-founder and senior analyst of the deep state resource, and actually, roman, i want to discuss with you the purpose of this operation. for several days now, we have been watching how our forces break through the defenses of the russians, capture more and more territories in the kursk region, but we do not know anything about the goal. as.

what do you think the purpose is? well, congratulations, well, if to talk about the goals and tasks that have been set for today, then they definitely do not exist, because first of all our military and political leadership chose the position of silence, and this is probably the most correct position of all that was before, is now, and is now there are certain versions, there someone says that it is to get to the gas distribution... station there to the as, and to have some leverage, someone simply says that it is the capture of the territory, the return of the territory, which may also agree to us in the future in certain positions of the negotiations, in particular, this was noted by the representative office of the president, i don't know what this comment was for, but let it be, but someone says that it is a withdrawal of some reserves, so that the muscovites could withdraw them from belgorod, there from

the donbas, although as of today, how many days have already passed, our guys do not feel this distraction, if it was even there, because a very large number of forces are concentrated there, in particular, if we are talking about the avdiivka, pokrovska or toretska districts, but time will tell here, for today this work is being done, in the future we let's see what it was all for, the main thing is to it reached its end, so that it did not find its fulfillment, and what are the tasks... and there are all these versions, then there is no difference, nevertheless, i would like to discuss them with you, because as you correctly noted, the ukrainian official side does not say anything about this operation, but we are interested in understanding what it will be, whether it will be another sortie, as it was, we observed several times in the performance of russian volunteer units that

entered... the territory of the russian federation, they fought there for several days, took videos and photos and left. well, at the very first moment there are signs that show that these are much larger-scale events, and they have some serious goals, because when the previous times came, there were certain units, in particular, if we talk about the rdk and others, then there there was a lot of media content of some kind, it... there were pools of certain processes that had their own tasks, to date we do not see that today there is any media coverage, we do not see that it was done there on purpose, because where do the footage come from , where there are some fighters, where damage is inflicted, where some clashes are taking place and, in general, blows are being inflicted, in particular, tonight a whole column was burned that was going there for some

of their... repulsion, then this shows a serious scale, what is happening today is definitely not some previous actions , which were from our side? and you know, as a war correspondent, and as a ukrainian, i was generally very outraged by the fact that we had some kind of conditional, probably, maybe not conditional red line, so that our troops could not cross it. border and enter the territory of the russian federation, this is what we saw during the kharkiv counteroffensive, when our troops liberated the region, reached the border and stood and were forced to watch the russians accumulate troops, and now it is obvious that this ban has been lifted, i understand correctly, eh, i don't know if it was shot, and a lot of people don't know whether to shoot there or...