not eight and not 20, but here you are asking this rhetorical question to ordinary residents of the border regions at a time when, excuse me, even ksenia sobchak says that she is collecting some help there with her project for the residents of kurshchyna, belgorod region there and so on and so forth, who suffered from the actions of the armed forces of ukraine, that is, it qualifies the problem now. as such, arising from the actions of the armed forces of ukraine, and this, i'm sorry, well, i'm not saying that she is a standard of some kind of intellectual thought, but it would seem like a person who claims to, well, the title journalists, at least yes, listen, which journalist, ksenia sabchak, is part of the system, and she does what is considered generally acceptable in this system, somehow money for peaceful residents of ukraine who have become victims, victims of behavior. armed forces of the russian

federation, it did not collect money for the residents of kharkiv, nor for the residents of odesa, which is a russian city, why don't you collect money for the residents, nor for the residents of other ukrainian regions, and those who were maimed, and those who were raped, and those who were deprived of property, and those who live without light and those who can live in the cold, she did not collect any money for anyone, although she has this money, thanks to her connections with the putin family. fell in, and her husband, bogamolov, yes, yakiv bogomolov, yes, bogomolov, kostya bogomolov, the son of a well-known television reviewer in moscow, who , thanks to the upbringing of a good family there, got several theaters, he closed the roman vyktyuk theater in moscow, you know , ugh, that's all these people do, so it doesn't surprise me at all when you talk about... these

moscow families, all these patricians from a cesspool, i'm sorry, where did they all come from, then they are generally like that, ugh, this just surprises me, because i knew both ksenia's father and her husband's father, and they were serious people, both of them, and this is all just a sham, what she owes everything in her life to her parents, with a single finger. didn't hit in order to be where they are , you see, that's the trick, and i have to think about all these people now, what are they collecting there, not collecting, what the curator said, that's what they're collecting, huh , so that, as we can see, there are other representatives of russian of the establishment, the opposition, as it were, lev shlosberg, lashed out at those russian patriots who welcome the conduct of troops in the ukrainian kurt region, how

can this be? a politician must be with his people, you see, these are all scoundrels who do not deserve our respect and attention, i.e. lev schlotzbeg, he means with the russian people, but marlene dietrich, she was not with the german people and went to give concerts to the armies allies, of course no one knows her, and cursed the whole world history and everything germany. and willy brant, so he is not with the german people, who came to germany in the form of the norwegian occupation army, but schlossbig with the russian people, ugh, but thomas mann, who wanted the defeat of hitler's germany, he is of course who he is, he is just some unfortunate writer who betrayed germany, whom probably no german knows, reads or respects, only dozens of museums were opened to him after the war, and schlosberg will certainly have a museum. in pskov,

if he is not put in prison before that putin, you understand, this logic, these people cannot even understand the examples from history, that the one who wins, only the one who wants the complete defeat of the human-hating regime, and i understand that this road to this defeat lies through the suffering of this civilian population, which supported the occupation policy, the more russian suffering, the more chances for change in russia itself, that's what hocus-pocus is. mr. vitaly, but... lukashenko spoke up against the background of the latest events, he even pulls together his special forces and iskander from polonaises to the border from kyiv chernihiv oblasts, well, he talked quite interestingly about possible changes in the leadership of belarus, he said something about the fact that, one way or another, i won’t be with you one day, i’m certainly not going to leave you, but anything can happen, so how do you like this public exit?

the belarusian dictator, also against the background, in fact, of the anniversary of the revolution that failed in belarus, you know, i once wrote a text about... the then president of montenegro in the 90s, and i stole the title from a well-known then the serbian newspaper, which also wrote an article about him, i liked it so much that i decided that i would translate it, this article was called chernogorsk yagulya, you know what a yagulya is, ugh, it’s an eel, ugh, eel, that’s lukashenko, he himself behaves exactly like this eel, he is not even an eel, he is an eel, a real eel, a lady eel. only not montenegrin, but belarusian, a real bulgarian who does not even maneuver, but squirms, you understand, squirms, on the one hand he needs to show putin that he is his loyal ally, on the other hand, the russians

they already say in their publications that lukashenko agreed with ukraine on the withdrawal of troops from the belarusian border, i myself withdrew my troops from the border, and this gave the ukrainians the opportunity to escape. forces for an attack on the kurdish region, and they quickly concentrated them, because they quickly led them from the belarusian direction to the kurdish one, we did not even have time to notice it, and of course in this situation lukashenko says: no, on the contrary, i will now send my the border, so that they do not break through to where they are not going to break through, you see, that's all for you his role, because he perfectly understands that on the one hand he needs to secure himself, and on the other hand to show... putin's company, that he is with them, he strengthens what does not need to be strengthened, because he is their ally, therefore he will keep scanners, anti-aircraft defense forces on the border, he will not keep troops, you understand, yes, and this is the whole logic of lukashenka, he always tried

to maneuver, of course, after the 26th year, when he dispersed this popular protest, he should maneuver, much harder because these people they always... do that, they negotiate with the west, the west says, okay, hold only free elections, full elections, and there are no questions, but everyone loves me, you see maduro now, he is doing the same as lukashenka, so there are no problems, it's great, but then he wakes up to everything, well, well, so now i will fight with the venezuelans, lukashenko is doing exactly the same thing, but... madura also has a person there, to whom he can turn in the same way as lukashenko is after money, it's sidjin ping, sidjin ping, and now lukashenko is trying to maneuver between china and russia, but for these maneuvers to continue, he needs to survive, and what do you think he wants to die with putin, you are wrong, he

may think that he can live without putin, only he needs to preserve the regime, so that putin does not crawl and so that the west cannot do anything with him, he is such a difficult task. decides, that's why he is twisting like that, the ukrainians also wanted to attack us, now i will show where this nav was prepared, don't worry, volodymyr volodymorovych, but what they are there in kursk oblast, and why doesn't he help the russians, they are members of the csto, i remember in january 2022, some incomprehensible people, but foreign-born people staged a protest in kazakhstan and... president kasim zhamar is like that and they immediately say, this foreign attack, terrorists, mercenaries, no one crossed the border of kazakhstan, he somehow found these mercenaries right in astana and other cities, and the csto troops immediately came, they had definitely crossed the state border here, this

is registered by the security council of the russian federation, putin holds meetings, says what kind of provocation, not selective shelling, but why is the csto not working, ugh, why are they presiding? or in the csto, who presides there, lukashenko presides, i don't remember who is presiding there now, he won't say, come on, friends, let's get together and send our glorious troops to the kurtsk region, let them help the russians repel the attack, let's at least we will do some non-military work there to release the energy of the russian troops, no one wants, no one wants, putin wanted to help tokaev, and tokaev should have seen this putin in a coffin in white slippers, well... and lukashenko also does not want to help putin, he puts iskanders in himself at the border, everyone else doesn't want either, well, it's kind of strange, so it also shows to some extent how their everyone is worried about this russia by and large, you see,

in fact, in fact, they are just maneuvering that it has not reached them, everyone hates it, but it is somehow strange, russians hate moscow, the country. goodbye russia, everyone around dislikes the csto countries, somehow and as soon as you leave the csto, as armenia said, we suspending our operations, everyone. they immediately start to love you, visit you, you meet with the secretary of state of the united states, maybe this is the key to happiness, leave the csto and other integration structures with russia altogether, if everyone does not like her, why stay in the same union with her, that's all, that's it good question, i think, and explained more than clearly, more than clearly, but you mentioned xijin ping, and i would like you and i to maybe talk about how the global south ... sees the situation around, i doubt it, of course , that they are all aware of the kursk region,

but less so, for them it is a weakness on the part of the russian federation, that it has not controlled a certain part of its universally recognized, world-recognized border, are they now only observers and think , whether they should continue to cooperate at least in some sense with this country, no. that they understand perfectly well that this is a weakness, and by and large it corresponds to their idea that the best way out of this situation is a cease-fire and a disbandment of troops, and to thing, this ukrainian raid on kurdistan once again convinces, let's say, precisely the countries of the global south of the correctness of their approach, that the issue is not someone's territorial integrity, a ceasefire, well, because it turns out that between russia and ukraine, as in ... well, china has territorial claims to india, india to china, pakistan to

india, china to the philippines, everyone has some territorial claims, and someone controls some territories that are considered foreign, and which are claimed by several at once countries, so what? in such a situation, to try to find a political solution to the problems, so that everything is clear from their point of view, ukrainian troops are in... on the territory of the kurdish region, which we consider the russian federation, and russian troops are in the territory of four ukrainian regions there crimea, and we consider this territory to be part of ukraine, but what to do, of course, we need to stop the wagon and start negotiations, ugh, so i think that this is rather, even a redundant argument in favor of the chinese approach, and i would say that it it is now possible to speak to the russians from their side, you see, we told you that it was necessary to cease fire and start... hello, and you said, no, we will not cease fire, but now there is a war on your territory, and

you already have a disputed territory conditioned on your territory. we recognize your territorial integrity, as well as the territorial integrity of ukraine, but what to do with it, how to prevent it, no way. you have to cease fire, so it is clear that they will express themselves on this plane. ugh. well, as far as we understand, the ukrainian state, and ministry of foreign affairs. affairs, in the person of its representatives, they are working on, and i wonder what exactly on the african continent dmytro kuleba is visiting malawi, zambia, mauritius and some countries from the african continent, these days they actually broke diplomatic relations with us, and with others we are trying to build some towns, what is happening and can it give a practical result? practical result, it is not related to the war, it is related. simply with questions of ukraine's positioning in the modern world, and if you want, with food security, because if

the issue of food security is important, it is also part of our efforts, then in principle, the more countries are interested in peace in ukraine and in economic ties with ukraine, the better for us, this is diplomacy, this just not about the war, about the fact that someone broke diplomatic relations with us, it seems that niger and mali, however, these are countries that are... under the full protectorate of moscow today, which is assisted by the wagner group or the african corps created by the ministry of defense of the russian federation after the death of yevgeny, he is bitter. the regimes in these countries also have, very often, no relations or diplomatic contacts with other countries , even in africa, because the legitimacy of these regimes is not recognized there. both regimes are military juntas, the niger regime is even going, it seems, to... assassinate the sitting, legitimate president of nigeria, who is being held hostage, so in that

sense, if you realize that these countries are dependent on moscow, then of course they were looking always a reason to show yours disloyalty to ukraine. by the way, in the organization of the united nations, they always voted in support of the pro-russian position, not the ukrainian one, and in this regard, when he says: oh, we occupied russia and ukraine in the war. neutral position, this is not true. on the other hand, i do not think that we should loudly declare our support for those separatist movements that, say, took part in the destruction of the wagnerites in... that is, we can help all this, we can finance it, we can have contacts, we have interested in that as much as possible the wagnerites remained in africa for a permanent place of residence somewhere in the sands of the sahara. ugh. but we cannot question the territorial integrity of any country, even if this country is ruled by a military dictatorship, because we ourselves are a country that may

be in a state of complex problems with territorial integrity for many decades. it can be so. and that is why we must realize that the issue of maintaining at least the appearance of international law, because international law, as i have repeatedly said, is destroyed and will not be restored in the coming decade, but we must in any case insist that the world order is legitimacy, and therefore, helping some groups that fight our enemies, simply on the principle that the enemy of our enemy is our friend, and not being allies of military dictatorships, we must remember that there were still recent times. when the west helped the legitimate governments of mali to fight against separatism and radical islamism, and the question of the territorial integrity of mali is not questioned by anyone the african continent, the legitimacy of the governments of these countries is being questioned, so i just want the officials of ukraine to be the officials of ukraine, and this seems absolutely logical to me, because there is no need

to give an excuse for ukraine to be accused of any actions that would allow compare it, say, with russian interventions. moreover, everyone is waiting for this. mr. vitaly, after our last meeting with you, serhii shogu shoigu, the former minister of defense of the russian federation, and some people from whose team are now being arrested in russia for corruption. well, i visited tehran, the capital of iran, and then went to baku, azerbaijan. and we understand what can be prepared for these days. iran, and there is also a different reading inside, what could be the answer to israel's answer, yes, the islamic revolutionary guard corps for a more radical approach, the newly elected president massoud, pezashkiyan, supposedly for more restraint, but less with what shoigu forgot there , and if

we consider the information that russia is sending some samples of its weapons there, what could this mean? well, i think that russia perfectly understands that iran is its ally, it is helping in this war, there are not many allies who can openly supply russia with weapons to the kremlin, and from this point of view, of course, he could not but come there. on the other hand, there is different information about what he advises iran, which was conveyed to yotali khamenenia by vladimir putin. there is information that russia generally advised iran to refrain from a serious attack on israel. i don't think it's because the russians are somehow very sympathetic israel, and because they might fear that a retaliatory strike would destroy all their efforts in iran, say destroy the iranian nuclear facility, say that nuclear facility at tatanza, which can be used to produce nuclear weapons, that it is needed to prevent this, because if iran gets rid of the main trump card of blackmail in its

war with the west, then of course the position of russia can be the ambassador head of the hamas politburo, says: that the destruction of hania was not some exclusively israeli israeli act revenge for october 7, but it could have been the result of widespread unrest in iran itself and in the ranks of this terrorist organization itself, and that is why iran can think that israel did not really kill hania, we will shoot at israel, we will look like idiots in the eyes of our own allies , this is one time, the second may be the danger of a retaliatory strike, the third is iran. may think that he is able to involve at this stage other terrorists from the organization of hezbollah, who also wanted to get rid of their chief of staff , faad shukr, who was killed in berlin by an israeli missile attack just a day before ismail hanni threw it, and they may just take their time, and they may discuss all this in the cage, but that does not mean that russia will just like that be there along with iran

to fight on this front , she may be interested in the development of events, but they can analyze our events. than tehran specifically in terms of consequences, you understand that when you make a certain effort, you think about the consequences. and by the way, with regard to russia's interest in further inflaming this conflict, and anywhere else around the world, well, you and i are used to saying that it is always beneficial for russia, on the other hand, now iran can ask russia, and how will you repay me for the unmanned technologies that i gave you and... and similar things, russian federation can already send is-400 to iran, they are allegedly asking about su-35, modernized fighters, that is, russia, which. and now the line of hostilities with ukraine is lengthening, and everything is happening very intensively, on the other hand, iran may gain, which will also ask for additional resources from it, or

profitable course of conflict right now in the russian federation? i think that russia will in any case supply iran with what it does not need on the russian-ukrainian front, it has its own priority system, iran is definitely not the first part of this system. the second is that russia can be profitable. a major conflict in the middle east, which would divert attention from ukraine, but again , such a conflict is important for russia, which would not lead to serious problems related to the security of iran itself, ugh, and therefore russian intelligence services can, of course, realistically analyze the situation precisely from the point of view of what will happen from iran as a result of its attack on israel, perhaps, by the way, that is exactly why the secretary of the russian security council went to tigran. and not the minister of defense, this is also to a certain extent a sign that we are sending you a representative of the security forces, but the secretary of the security council, who should share

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there is no political season. exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front. freedom. frankly and impartially. you draw your own conclusions. this is the saturday political club, thank you for being on spresso, vitaly portnikov talks about the most important events that are currently developing in ukraine and in the world, and at the end of our program we would like to touch on the rather powerful and heartbreaking events that took place in bangladesh, and literally in july, again from the promotion students, it actually took place there. the revolution started, which achieved its certain results and the prime minister, the prime minister of this country left the country, and now the interim government is in place.

the nobel laureate, interestingly, this is also the peace prize, by the way, mohamed yunus, he already took the oath, which was the trigger for the information that is public, this is the quota of jobs, if i am not mistaken, mr. vitaly, and we see , how quickly all this grew, a lot of parallels were drawn these days with the ukrainian maidan, i don't know how relevant it is, but however, events in bangladesh, how do you... do they look to you? you know, i think that bangladesh is primarily the arena of a great geopolitical confrontation between india, china and the west. and it is interesting that all the instability in bangladesh really began after the prime minister, sheikh hasina, who is a sincere friend of india and has maintained warm relations with indian governments for many years, is a close, i would

say, such a friend of the prime minister minister of india. she visited beijing asking for some big loan for bangladesh and actually came without it loan, and after that the tension in bangladesh began to build up. i will not say that sheikh hasina's government did not make some mistakes with this quota, and with this rather serious, i would say, misunderstanding of the mood of society, which led to repression, to crackdown. sudent demonstrations, it was a serious problem, especially as we understand that when you create inclusive opportunities for all, it is one story when you single out a group of individuals who are descendants of those who fought for independence from pakistan in the 70s years these people have some priority, when in fact the participants of these events themselves have long been out of the labor market, that's a completely different story, but one way or

another, as we understand it, beijing was... interested in overthrowing this essentially pro-indian government, the sheikhasin had chance to negotiate with beijing on beijing's terms, she didn't do it, and then there was this, i would say, line of serious tension, which ended with the fall of her government. what will happen next is quite difficult to say, because actually there is a real political vacuum in bangladesh, a party sheikh khasiniva. metovana, but it is a big party with a serious infrastructure on the ground, it continues to exist, the bangladesh nationalist party, which is headed by a long-time rival of the prime minister, it too, i would say, can be considered such a political force that the youth are already fed up with it, and it is necessary to understand that the prime minister is the daughter of the first

president. bangladesh, and her main competitor, she is the wife, in fact, of his main heir. both were killed, both majuburhman and zyaur rahman. ot. and here the question arises whether any change is possible political elite? and who will fill this vacuum? and who will use this vacuum? china, india, will there be any government capable of cooperation with the west. the students wanted muhammad yunus, the nobel laureate, the man who is known for inventing microcredit, what he won the nobel prize for, he invented microcredit, so if you're just out there wanting to get some kind of small loan to buy you, i don't know, a coffee machine , to sell coffee on the street, they will give you a microcredit for this coffee machine, you will only get for this money, and you can go out on the streets of dhaka and sell coffee there and...