and then there was kharkiv, yes, yes, directly to chernobyl, and then there was already kharkiv, and then kharkiv oblast, zaporizhzhia oblast, donnytsia oblast began, well , it went on like that, is it possible to somehow characterize all these cities, villages, where you come with a group, yes, and what do you see there most often, it all depends on when it was, was it like the 22nd year or the 23rd year? the situation was a little different, well, for me, what i saw immediately after the deoccupation of the entire kharkiv region had a great impact on me, because we had such an opportunity we, together with the military, were the first to arrive, that is, after the deoccupation, people had not yet seen doctors, had not seen er... psychologists, had not seen

someone to talk to, we are now used to all these personnel, it was very impressive, destroyed infrastructure, destroyed hospitals , all medical facilities, it doesn’t matter, dispensary, hospital, kindergartens and schools, well, of course they were destroyed, there were some cities that were destroyed, villages by 90%, well, he very often tells... almost everything was taken away when we entered, the hospital may still have walls, but inside it was destroyed, it was burned, and it was obvious that it was all taken away, well, plus, the first torture chambers, about which no one has yet spoken. er, for example, i know that my son,

who also traveled with me, he er, as a photographer, a volunteer, he took photos of the first torture camps that became known in kharkiv region, and it was very impressive , because it's not just the walls, everyone has seen these photos, everyone understands what was inside, and back then we didn't talk about such things. and women, women who have been sexually assaulted, women who were pregnant as a result of this sexual violence, children who had a family member killed by shelling or sniper fire, children who became adults, children who did not look their age, both physically and mentally , and who

worried about their relatives, grandparents, people who lived because the occupation was different, it was long, if we are talking about donetsk region, it was longer than kharkiv region, that is, people who lived in dilapidated houses, people , who lived and continue to live, for example, in the destroyed siversk hospital, which...we got into, we didn't count eight or nine times, i was very impressed by this, because there is a cemetery on the territory of that hospital, this is the cemetery of medical workers who worked there, who died during one of the shelling, when i am in siverska, i always go there in order not to forget, it is very difficult and we will certainly never be able to forget it, most often...

what do you talk about with these people, what words do you choose and what do they they say, well, we come primarily as doctors, that's why we we talk, yes, we talk about health, about what hurts, what bothers, and how they were, how they are, since we have such a tradition of returning to the place in which we have already been, so i already have their patients and... they are already waiting for the doctor to come back, they tell how they fulfill the appointment or how they take the medicine, just here people take the medicine as prescribed and they wait for the doctor to come back, and i know, oksana , that after you probably saw everything, this is all the horror you are talking about, you went to studies and began studying to become a psychologist, yes yes. well, i thought about this before, but somehow i

didn't find time for everything, but i was really very impressed by the children, it was in... these were children from the occupied territories, teenage children, whom i, as a doctor, a pediatrician, discovered at the reception suicidal thoughts, inclinations, it was not just one child, and therefore it had a very extraordinary effect on me, i took the message to a psychologist, but i thought that i did not have enough knowledge, despite the fact that i have been working with children for many years of my life, with their parents for that maybe there is not enough, yes, that i need more knowledge in order to help, to provide psychological help, both to children and adults. well , it is probably worth giving some advice

to all those people who are watching us now, who live in the de-occupied territories, and i just remember one of our private conversations with you, when we talked about... what, both adults and children, they have, shall we say, not very strong, yes, we can say, health, and there are neglected diseases, and they can be neglected not only because of the war, but because that before, a person did not take care of his health, it so happened that there was a war, and maybe there were some chronic diseases, there was no possibility to treat, what can you advise, which after everything that you... saw, to choose the words for to address the people, well, i want to say first of all that you should remember that you are not alone, that the whole country supports you, there are quite a lot of volunteer organizations, both ukrainian and

international, that come to the de-occupied territories, to frontline territories and provide various plans of medical care, and at the same time it is done on the basis of... there are organizations in which doctors from israel come and return, there are ukrainian doctors, there are, for example, our organization, where the united states also volunteer with us, america, germany, from different countries, and this supports us and gives us inspiration, for example, yesterday one of mine. from the united states of america, who came to conduct regular trainings in tactical medicine free of charge for our students and for volunteers and applicants, for everyone wannabes, he tells me don't forget you are my family, i've known this person since

i was 22 and it's really important because i understand that it's real, but don't forget that... we are one single big family, and that is why you are hurting, we are hurting, you are being shot at, we are also being shot at, we are on the same page, if someone comes across, maybe with some other opinion, well you , it is not for you to tell that people are in different psychological state, and therefore there may be such a reaction to shocks, or was there any such history. in these de-occupied territories, where it was you who came that impressed you, and maybe she is standing before your eyes, you still remember her, and this is always, it is called, if you always have to find,

it does not matter how many adult children you have seen in one visit, you always have to find at least one person whom you really helped and saved, then... either it was an undiagnosed diagnosis, he might not have been diagnosed before the war, because either he was diagnosed by mistake, the same could be the case , and you figured it out, made a correct diagnosis, and, accordingly, correctly directed, if necessary before the examination, correctly prescribed the treatment, and the child or adult recovered, it could be, well, for example, tell me who, who it was, who is interesting to hear about it all the time. it is on every trip, well, for example, in the kharkiv region, it was a boy who at the age of 12 weighed about 140 kg, a boy, yes, i, my mother is small, thin, fragile, and i am very glad that she was able to to bring, because he

resisted, he did not want, we, just at the same time, a neurologist, a psychiatrist, we his complex... together looked, i looked over all the documents that my mother brought, i explained to her that in general we are talking about diseases, disorders. of the metabolic cycle, i found an extract, i say, that’s what the geneticist told you, well, i’m telling you, look, she says, frankly, i didn’t get there, because the diagnosis was made literally before the war, i say, in kharkiv, there are excellent doctors of genetics, medical center, my mother still got there, he began to receive proper treatment and began to... well , lose weight, that is, his quality of life is much

better, the main thing is that he is diagnosed with treatment, how is it possible and where in general is it possible to take how much strength to work at several jobs and in my free time, which i understand there is no, this is how i show free time, because i understand that it is not there at all, and to study, i i know you are still studying. at the same time, learn german on courses and travel to de-occupied territories, where do you get the first inspiration for this all the time, because i know that many ukrainians are missing this right now, they give up when we read the news, when we understand that strength end, i just think that everyone should do what they know best, i... know how to heal the best, so this is how i bring our victory closer, that is, it gives you

strength when you understand that you are doing what you love , this is my specific contribution, this is my specific help, and this is my clear conscience, my heart, my soul, and this is what gives me the right to look into the eyes of our defenders and their defenders... those students who fight, who return , so this, i think, is what inspires, are there still doctors needed, who would, well, what, let’s say, yes correct, do we still need doctors in order to make such trips, well, the more doctors there are, the more, accordingly, there will be, but not only doctors. yes, here you need to bring more medicines, that is

, not only to examine the person, you need to give the person medicine, you need to make sure that the person understands how to take the medicine, he will take it and give the medicine to be calculated so that it will be before the next visit, so according to the doctors , the more doctors, the more territories will be under supervision, the more people can get qualified, because doctors of various specialties travel, they are specialists of very high levels, qualified medical assistance. i know that your students are driving, so it is for them too, as such, let's say, the experience they get, and what they say, but i understand that these are... very young people, they may be students of the first , second, third years, and seniors, and

most often what they say after these trips is very important, because they see, well, first of all, it educates them, a citizen, yes, a person with an active position in life, patriots, heroes, boys and girls who protect with weapons, heroes are also those who provide help in various ways, well, in my opinion, heroes are people who donate money, that is, we are all heroes, they see the realities, they see , how important the doctor's profession is, how complicated it is, how many skills you need to have, well , now it's called such a modern... word of competence, yes, that is, how professional you need to be in order to still be able

to look like this and make a diagnosis, that is for them it is a huge professional experience, for them it is an experience of communication, they communicate perfectly with people, and people need this, especially if there are grandparents, they often treat them like their grandchildren or great-grandchildren, that is, psychologists also come here. help, they learn to work in a team, that is, to be a doctor's assistant, to be an administrator who will receive a large number of people, people do not always come with a positive attitude, a lot can come. with negativity, because something hurts, the medicine has run out, the queue is long, he doesn’t want to stand, he can’t, he doesn’t have the strength, it all teaches communication, flexibility, it teaches the so-called hard and sharp, that is, it teaches first of all to be a good specialist, and if you

ride together, or teachers ride together, it forms in general. that culture of respect for each other, i know there are stories where you find people who need surgery there, yes, who need help that you can't provide there on the spot, and you transport that person with your group , you helped to get settled, you can tell about such stories, quite a lot, we have practically. every trip he has one or two cases, when a person needed surgical intervention right on that day, we, since we always have an ambulance, we then drove, it was indiscriminate, to kharkiv, to kuping, to kramatorsk, to medical institutions, where there

were doctors, who exactly could provide this or that type of operation, very often our... agents, well, for example, i made arrangements, and they came to ahmadyt, the national children's specialized hospital, because there needed high-quality help, and the operation was difficult, and not quite a lot of children were operated on during this time, it was bohmaditi, with what are the main health problems faced by people in the de-occupied territories, what are the most common? what diseases do you also encounter, if they are adults, first of all, arterial hypertension, i.e. high blood pressure, in second place, neuralgia, we understand why these are all the consequences of stress, very often it goes, diabetes of the second type goes , and unfortunately,

a part, it is discovered for the first time, it is connected with stress plus with peculiarities of food. because especially at the beginning we remember what people ate, what was, that if we talk about adults, what else can there be, i have seen quite a lot of varicose veins of the lower extremities, there can be peat ulcers, and if we are talking about children, and if we are talking about children, then in children, if we are talking about... acute diseases, no , well, acute, yes, seasonally, it’s simple there, they even put scarlet fever, there was even a case when measles was put infectious munonucleosis, but not often, that is, in most cases it goes to children, or diabetes, first detected, yes, in the background the same stress and diet,

or, for example, more often it is the joint-bone system, it is... or scoliosis, various, well, various disorders, postures, or such pain syndromes, that is , they have pain, pain in the hands, pain in the muscles , pain in the joints, i.e. myalgia, hyperalgesia, and does this mean that the majority of people in the occupied territories need a psychologist, maybe a doctor, yes, who will deal with them, they need them. psychological support, because these are people who are in a more constant shelling zone, a constant threat to their directly to life, to the lives of relatives, loss of home, loss of loved ones, this is chronic stress, and not just stress is so equal, but every

shelling, every arrival, it is very difficult to perceive, so yes absolutely. they learned, but they need sleep disorders, that is, about such things, cognitive disorders, primarily sleep disorders, both in children and adults, anxiety, depression, yes, or increased crying, also in children, in adults, and in children tics have returned, that is , such jerks, or for example, such a feeling, such sounds, mom thinks that the nose... or a cough, a cold, it turns out that it is of a nervous nature, in children i even saw and showed my students a boy with the syndrome... preta is such generalized tics, it is both motor and vocal, and the whole body, moreover, i also saw in adults, in adults,

due to constant attacks, i.e. the consequences, acobarotrauma, yes, i.e. contusions, to put it more clearly, this is a headache, so constant, periodically it gets even worse, this is ringing in the ears, dizziness, such a feeling... pressure on the head, such, by the way, it also happens to teenagers, that is , a neurologist or a family doctor is also needed here, and the support of a psychologist is definitely needed here, what can be advised to such people, such people should not stay at home, they must, they know, it is very good to raise awareness about , that the doctors are coming, it doesn't matter which organization, they must be told: a doctor, there is a psychologist, doctors, what specialties, be sure to come, come, you will be looked at, your blood pressure will be measured, your sugar level will be checked, the most elementary

things, you the doctor will listen, examine, no, you help will be provided, plus, even if there is no psychologist in this outing, if such a problem is acute, you will definitely be found a psychologist, you can... be online with a psychologist, psychologists come, psychologists conduct individual sessions, and group sessions are conducted, but as far as i understand, this is mandatory, because we are talking about the fact that it is first a psychological condition, and then after that a physical one is also involved, that is, other diseases are added, combined, yes oksana, i have another one before you have a question, maybe it will be difficult. for you, but i still want us to hear and for you to voice, what experience did you get during the war that you would never want

to get? well, this is a difficult question for everyone, i would, well, first of all, i lost two of my relatives, and this is my dad, who died... on february 26, because in the city of kyiv, where we lived, at that intersection there were street battles, saboteurs broke through, and the apartment, the window looked out on this very alley, and he witnessed these events, and he got scared, he had a stroke, i took him to you... ugh, but unfortunately, even take him to the hospital i i didn't have time, literally a year later, in the same

year, at the end of the month - at the end of the year, i lost my grandmother, why? because there was a power outage, my grandmother had covid with pneumonia and she needed oxygen, and i brought an oxygen concentrator, she was on... an oxygen concentrator, but then there were blackouts for four days, even longer, respectively, that none, of course , we bought a generator, and there was a generator, but the generator could not withstand such long blackouts, and therefore the grandmother, she died of what was not access to oxygen, a certain period of time and... it turns out that the loss of loved ones is directly related to the consequences and to the war, well, this is the first, the second, well, for sure, i would not like

to be disappointed in those people, acquaintances, in whom i disappointed, that is, the war, she opens. inside a person, his essence, and not everyone always has the best of it. oksana, i thank you for your openness, for finding the time to come and talk to us today. thank you, thank you for the invitation. and thanks to all the viewers who were with us today, it was experience of the war, and today our guest was oksana vygovska, an infectious disease doctor, professor and dean of the department of the institute. bogomolets discounts until independence day on

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i am visiting a person extremely devoted to her work, this is oleksandra balyasna, she is the head of the board of the association of parents of premature babies, early birds, and she is also a member of the advisory board of the european foundation on the health of newborn children. sasha, i welcome you here today in this studio. hello, thank you very much for the invitation, this is for me it is a great honor to be on the air, on

your program. look, i want to. i want to talk to you today about your war experience, we understand that february 24, 2022, although the war has been going on for more than 10 years in our country, but this very date changed the lives of many ukrainians, so i want to hear your experience today, because it is very important, because during the war , children continue to be born, and even more so children... who are born in a hurry without asking anyone and are also born, and they need even more such, let's say, specific medical care, so i want you to share your experience today, tell our viewers about all this, and let's start with this particular date: what did you do on this day, where was your family and how did this date change your life? 24 for me.