to go, we don’t have buses here, we don’t have trains here, local residents say this, they say that, but nobody needs this in russia, they should write ukrainians are bastards, the government is wonderful, we thank our governor for helping us, and this is also part of the regime of the counterterrorist operation. mr. vitaly, another interesting observation, perhaps subjective, but it seems that for the russians, you said that in principle for russia. as states that the territory, excuse me, of current kherson, ukrainian-controlled, which is their kursk region, they are absolutely equal, these are all their territories, just kherson now, well, it is occupied by the ukrainian army, the ukrainian quasi-state by the nazis, on the other hand, to be honest, the withdrawal of russian troops from kherson caused a bigger stir, let's cry, how can we... leave our people there and so further

than what is happening in kurtshchyna. according to my observations, russians know less about kurtshchyna, and they care much less about it than the territories they occupied, specifically ukrainian. well, because when we were talking about ukrainian territories, we were talking weakly about occupation, about military victory. and here we are simply talking about some territory that someone entered. it is necessary to understand that russian society is enough. atomized, if you will, and this is an atomized society, it is primarily interested in the situation at home, and if nothing is happening in your region, then you really do not care much about the suffering of the inhabitants of another region, especially since the government itself knows better what to do, she will liberate kurshchyna, she will return people to their homes, and now we just have to to receive evacuees, according to official data , 76,000 people were evacuated. from these regions,

by the way, this is the number one task, as you and i all understand very well, together with this, and this, it seems to me, it is clear that in some moscow, what is happening there in the kursk region is of little concern to anyone , it's true, this is such an important moment of russian political life that the revolution never starts in the suburbs, changes never start in the suburbs, all russian changes in... happen in the capitals in 1917 it was petrograd, in 1991 moscow, if you do not win the situation in the capital, you will lose the country, but in 1917 moscow was against the bolshevik government, but the bolsheviks took power in petersburg, petrograd, and they then absolutely calmly established this power in moscow after there some short skirmish, now, if you understand, if some law prevails. in petrograd, and moscow

remains under the control of the authorities, then this authority will simply be able to destroy any rebellion in petrograd, and vice versa. in 1991, almost all regions of the russian federation supported it gkchp moscow did not support, yeltsin did not support, and as a result the top leadership of the soviet union, which was supported by all regions of russia, lost the struggle for power. there is something in this, as you understand, quite interesting. so from this point of view you are right. kherson was simply such an unexpected event for them, as russian troops have to leave a conquered city, there is some kind of border struggle, some problems with the inhabitants of some province, who is to blame for them not living in moscow, i would say the following refrain: all russia hates moscow all of moscow despises all of russia, this is a real relationship in this state since the time of grand duke ivan kalita, not that... vladimir

putin, so i wouldn't say that we are witnessing something new. well, well, from the point of view of what is happening in russia itself, we understood a little bit, but about the traps that the russian state is currently falling into, you noted, on the other hand, can we fall into any traps, i can now be accused in some very careless thoughts there, but nevertheless, when we have specific definitions of specific borders. of a specific country and declare ourselves as a country that adheres to international law, can they criticize us that we are not just protecting our own, but that we have in fact violated this international law by crossing the russian border, or how, how, how not to get caught also trapped, in fact, and why is no one helping, because it seems to me that... this episode with

the chicken, it just illustrates that everyone is very careful in what they say, kirby from the white house says, but we need more figure it out, we will get information now from the ukrainian military, although it is difficult. , but no one says, you know, we consider it unacceptable to invade the territory of the russian federation, however, no one said that, not even lukashenka, yes, lukashenka did not say about him separately, well , look at how international law looks, if you a country is being attacked, and if the country that is the aggressor accumulates military resources, manpower and equipment on its territory to continue this aggression, then you have a full legitimate right. to enter the territory of this country in order to destroy the enemy's military force, equipment and manpower in this area, where she prepares for the next attack. and by the way, this is exactly what the russian federation was guided by when it announced a special military operation in 2022.

she said that she wants to protect the people of donbass, and in order to protect the people of donbass, it is necessary to enter the territory of ukraine and destroy the military potential of ukraine so that it no longer... bombs donbass, the truth is, ugh, that was the idea, russia recognized our statehood, our borders, as if we will destroy it and everything will be fine again, also daglats, by the grace of god, we say the same thing, we absolutely do not need the kurdish region, we need to destroy the military equipment and manpower of the enemy, which is concentrated on the territory of the border regions of the russian federation with ukraine, that is. everything and here it is very difficult to notice something, because in any war, the one who started the escalation, who started the aggression is guilty, he is responsible both for the victims on the territory of the country that he attacked, and for the victims on

his own territory , during the second world war war, among the victims of the war there was a lot of the civilian population of germany, by the way, why are we all? entered its territory, it was its territory, we could have stopped somewhere on the borders of germany, the soviet union, great britain, the united states, somehow we did not stop, that's right, but for the victims among the german civilian population , who, adolf hitler, is directly responsible vladimir putin is directly responsible for the casualties among the russian civilian population. i talked a lot with germans who said: "listen, what a thirst." i was in the days when the allied armies entered germany, especially the soviet army, the mutilation of women, murders, mass tortures, literally, just horror, i told you, i absolutely agree with this, it is incredible horror, by the way, horror that, what happened on

the territory of ukraine, belarus, lithuania, poland, and other countries, all this is horror, unspeakable, horror of the suffering of the civilian population, but i am very sorry if your grandparents did not support the national socialist workers ' party of germany in the elections , they didn't let her get stronger, didn't let her start zagarnitsa war against your neighbors, all your grandparents, relatives would be alive, you started it, you were driven by a sense of injustice towards the outcome of the first world war, but you could understand that after you satisfied your sense of injustice, you could such catastrophes will begin in your life, in comparison with which the injustice of the times... the world war will seem to you like flowers against the background of the mass of gba, rape, torture, well, that's all, who is to blame, who, if you had behaved differently, there would be no the second world war, and to you had a democratic german state, this democratic german state could, together with great britain and france, contain

the bolshevik soviet union, could join in the destruction of the communist regime, and nothing would have happened, but you went a completely different way, and so with russia, when residents of the kursk region now... says that you, we supported the svo. well, i'm sorry if you support the svo, if you support the whistling of your neighbors, the bombing of civilian cities. sooner or later the war comes to you and yours children and kill you in your own homes, even if the army that comes there behaves more civilized than the army that came to our land and turned out to be just, i would say, a horde of savage medieval bandits. i won't even say barbarians, because barbarians were still a civilization compared to russian. army, there could just be missile fire, there could be drones, there could be results of rockets falling, you lose life, you lose health, you evacuate, and what did you want if you think your army can enter the territory of another country, sooner or

later the army from this other country may reach you, it may not reach moscow, but it will reach the court, as it turned out that you, living in the border regions with ukraine, for decades... communicating with your neighbors, crossing this border 155 times, knowing for sure that there were no nazis there, there are not and never will be, how could you not believe your own stupid eyes? own tv, what is happening to you in general with the residents of the kurdistan, belgorod, voronezh or bryansk regions, well, i i understand the people who live there in the primorsky krai, and who have never seen anything, nothing but a stuffed tiger, that all the tigers seem to have been killed there, so i understand the people who live in the kamchatka region, in some yakutia, they watch tv in general. they don't know where ukraine is, maybe the nazis really live there, well, let's imagine, but you, you,

especially the border strip, you are complete idiots, you are now asking a rhetorical question, vitaly eduardovych, everything you are saying now, it is so logical, well it is absolutely how like 2 + 2 = 4, not 5, not 6, not eight and not 20, but here you are asking this rhetorical question to simple... residents of the border regions at a time when, excuse me, even ksenia sobchak says that she collects there some help with her project for the residents of kurshchyna, belgorod region and so on and so forth who suffered from the actions of the armed forces of ukraine, that is, she now qualifies the problem as arising from the actions of the armed forces of ukraine, and that, i'm sorry, i don't i say that she is a standard of what... there is intellectual thought, but this it would seem that a person who claims

to be a journalist, at least that journalist, ksenia sabchak, is part of the system, and she does what is considered generally accepted in this system, somehow money for peaceful residents of ukraine who became a victim, victims behavior of the armed forces of the russian federation, it did not collect, neither for the residents of kharkiv, nor for the residents of odessa, and this is russian. yes, why don’t you collect money for residents, nor for residents of other ukrainian regions, and those who were maimed, and those who raped, and those who were deprived of property, and those who live without electricity, and those who can live in the cold, she did not collect any money for anyone, although she has this money, thanks to her connections with the putin family , fell in love, and her husband...

got several theaters, he closed the roman viktyuk theater in moscow, you know, that's all these people do, so it doesn't surprise me at all when you ask moscow families, everyone these patricians from the cesspool. excuse me, where did they all come from, they are generally like, uh, that's it it just surprises me, because i knew both ksenia's father and her husband's father, and they were serious people, both of them, and this is all a shantrapa, simply, who owes everything in life to her parents, she herself did not put a finger on the finger in order to be where they are, you see, that's the trick, and i have to think about all these people, what they're collecting there, they're collecting, what the curator said, that's what they're collecting, so how

do we we see, there are others there, a representative of the russian opposition establishment, as if lev shlosberg, lashed out at those russian campaigners who welcome the conduct of troops in the ukrainian kursk region, how can this be, a politician should always be with his people, you understand? these are all scoundrels who do not deserve our respect and attention, i.e. lev schlotsbe, he means with the russian people, and here is marlene dietrich, she was not with the german people and went to give concerts to the allied armies, of course no one knows her, her cursed all world history and all germany, and willy brandt, he means not with the german people, who came to germany in the form norwegian of the occupying army, and schlossberg with the russian people, ugh, and thomas mann, who

wanted the defeat of hitler's germany, he, of course, who is he, he is just some unfortunate writer who betrayed germany, whom probably no german knows, does not read, and does not respect, only dozens of museums were opened to him after the war, and shlotsberg will of course have a museum in pskov, if he is not put in prison in front of this putin, you understand, this logic, these people cannot even understand when... examples from history , that only the one who wants full will win the defeat of the misanthropic regime, and i understand that this road to this defeat lies through the suffering of this civilian population. which supported the aggressive policy, the more russian suffering, the more chances for change in russia itself, that's what hocus-pocus is. mr. vitaly, but lukashenko spoke up against the background of the recent events, he is even bringing his special forces and iskander with polonaises to the border from the kyiv and chernihiv regions, but he talked

quite interestingly about possible changes in the leadership of belarus, he said something on the subject. that which one way or another, one day i won't be with you, of course i'm not going to leave you, but anything can happen, what do you think of this public appearance of the belarusian dictator, even against the background of the anniversary of the failed revolution in belarus, you you know, i once wrote a text about the then president of montenegro in the 90s, and i stole the title from a well-known serbian newspaper at the time, which also wrote an article about him, i liked it so much that i decided to translate it, this the article was called cernogogorsk eel, you know what such an eel, ugh, this is an eel, ugh, an eel, that's lukashenko, he behaves exactly like this yagulya, he's not even an eel, he's a yagulya, a real such an eel, a lady yagulya, only not

montenegrin, but belarusian, a real such an eel , who... doesn't even maneuver, but squirms, you know, squirms, on the one hand he needs to show putin that he is his loyal ally, on the other hand, the russians are already saying in their public, lukashenko agreed with ukraine on the withdrawal of troops from belarus border, i took mine myself troops from the border, and this gave the ukrainians the opportunity to release forces to attack the kurdish region, and they quickly concentrated them, because they quickly led them from the belarusian direction to the kurdish. we didn't even have time to notice it, and of course in this situation lukashenko says: "no, on the contrary, i will now strengthen my border so that they do not break through to where they are not going to break through, you know? that's his whole role, so that he perfectly understands that he needs to secure himself on the one hand, and

on the other hand, to show putin and company that he is with them, he is strengthening things that do not need to be strengthened, because he is their ally." so he will keep iskanders, air defense forces, troops on the border, you understand, yes, and this is the whole logic of lukashenka, he always tried to maneuver, of course, after the 20th year, when he dispersed this popular protest, it is much more difficult for him to maneuver, because these people always, as they do, they negotiate with the west, the west speaks, okay , hold only free elections, please. they: free elections, but there are no questions, but everyone loves me, you see, now maduro, he also does exactly what lukashenka does, there are no problems, it’s great, but then he wakes up to everything, well, then, now i will fight with the venezuelans , doing exactly the same thing, lukashenko did, but maduro also has a person there

to whom he can turn for money, just like lukashenko, this is xijinping. and now lukashenko is trying to maneuver between china and russia, but for these maneuvers to continue, he needs to survive, if you think that he wants to die with putin, you are wrong, he may think that he can live without putin, only he needs to preserve the regime so that putin does not crawl and the west cannot do anything to him, he solves such a difficult task, that's why he wriggles like that, the ukrainians also wanted to attack us, i'll show you now. where did this attack come from? don't worry, volodymyr volodymorovych, what about the fact that they are there in the kurt region, and why isn't he helping the russians? they are members of the csto, i remember but in january 2022, some incomprehensible people, but clearly not of foreign origin, organize a protest in kazakhstan, and president

katsym zhomar immediately says: this is a foreign attack, terrorists, mercenaries, no one crossed the border. he somehow found these mercenaries right in astana and other cities, and the csto troops immediately arrived, they had already crossed the state border here, the security council of the russian federation registers this, putin holds meetings, says what a provocation, indiscriminate shelling, and why the csto is not working, ugh, why the chairman of the csto, who is the chairman there, lukashenko is the chairman, i don't remember who is the chairman there now, he won't say. "let's get together, friends, and send our glorious troops to the kurtsk region, let them help the russians repel the attack, let's at least do some non-military work there." let's do it to release the energy of the russian troops, no one wants, no one wants, putin wanted to help tokayev, and tokayev should have seen this putin in the grave in white slippers, well, slippers, so lukashenko also

does not want to help putin, he is in himself on iskander puts the border, everyone else doesn't want either, well, it's kind of strange, huh, so it also shows to some extent how much this russia worries them all, you know, actually. in fact, they are just maneuvering that she did not get to them, everyone hates her, it is somehow strange, the russians hate moscow, the csto countries hate russia, everyone around dislikes the csto countries, somehow, as soon as you leave the csto, as armenia said, we suspend our activities, everyone immediately starts loving you, going to see you, you meeting with the secretary of state of the united states, maybe this is the key to happiness? to leave the csto and other integration structures with russia altogether, if everyone does not like it, why stay with it in the same union? that's all. this is a good question. yes,

explained, more than understandable. it is more than clear, but you mentioned xijin ping, and i would like you and i to perhaps talk about how the global south sees the situation around, i doubt, of course, that they all know where the kursk region is, but less with that... and for them it is a weakness on the part of the russian federation, what, what it did not control a certain part of its universally recognized, world-recognized border, or are they now observers exclusively, and are they thinking whether they should continue to cooperate at least in some ways with this country? no, i think they understand very well that it's a weakness, huh, and by and large it's in line with their idea that the best... way out of this situation is a cease-fire and disarmament. and by the way, this ukrainian raid on kurtshchyna once again convinces, let's say, precisely the countries

of the global south of the correctness of their approach, that the issue is not someone's territorial integrity, a ceasefire, well , because it turns out that between russia and ukraine, just like they do, china has territorial claims to india, india to china, pakistan to india. from china to the philippines, everyone has some territorial claims, and someone controls some territories that are considered foreign, and which are claimed by several countries at once, well, what to do in such a situation, try to find a political solution to the problems, so here it is precisely from their point of view everything is clear, ukrainian troops are on the territory of the kurdish region, which we consider to be the russian federation, and russian troops are located there... four ukrainian regions of crimea, and we consider this territory to be part of ukraine, but what to do? it is necessary, of course, to cease fire and start negotiations. ugh. so i think this is

rather, even a redundant argument in favor of the chinese approach. and eh, i would say that it is now possible to say this to the russians from their side. you see, we told you that it is necessary to cease fire and start a dialogue. and you they said, no, we will not cease fire. now there is a war on your territory. and you have there is a disputed territory settled on your territory, we recognize your territorial integrity, which is the territorial integrity of ukraine, but what to do with it, how to prevent it, no way, you have to cease fire, so it is clear that they will express themselves on this plane , ugh, well, as far as we understand, the ukrainian state and the ministry of foreign affairs, represented by its representatives, are working on, and i wonder what exactly in africa? dmytro continent kuleba visits malawi, zambia, mauritius and some countries from the african continent. these days they actually broke diplomatic

relations with us, and we are trying to build bridges with others. what is happening and can it give a practical result? the practical result is not related to the war, it is simply related to the issues of ukraine's positioning in the modern world, and if you wish, to food security. because... if the issue of food security is important, it is also part of our efforts, then in principle, by what more countries will be interested in peace in ukraine and in economic relations with us, the better for us, this is diplomacy, it is not about war, as for the fact that someone broke diplomatic relations with us, it seems that niger and mali true, yes, these are countries that are under the full protectorate of moscow today, which are helped by the wagner or african group. created by the ministry of defense of the russian federation after the death of yevhen prigozhen. the regimes located in these countries also have, very often do not have

any loans. diplomatic contacts with by other countries, even in africa, because the legitimacy of these regimes is not recognized there. both regimes are military juntas, niger's regime even appears to be going to kill the sitting, legitimate president of niger, whom it has taken as a hostage. so in this sense, if you realize that these countries depend on moscow, then they always looked for an excuse to show their disloyalty to ukraine. by the way, in the organization of the united nations, they always voted in support of the pro-russian position, not ukrainian, and in this regard, when they say, oh, we took a neutral position in the war between russia and ukraine, this is not true. on the other hand, i do not believe that we should loudly declare our support for those separatist movements that, say, took part in the destruction of the wagnerites in mali. that is , we can help all this, we can finance it, we can have contacts,

we... are interested in the fact that as many wagnerites as possible remain in africa for permanent residence somewhere in the sands of the sahara. ugh. but we cannot question the territorial integrity of any country, even if this country is ruled by a military dictatorship, because we ourselves are a country that may be in a state of complex problems with territorial integrity for many decades. it may be so, and that is why we must realize that the issue of maintaining at least the appearance of international law, because international law, as i... said, has been destroyed and will not be restored in the next ten years, but we must in any case insist on , that world order is legitimacy, and therefore, helping some groups that struggle with by our enemies, simply on the principle that the enemy of our enemy is our friend, and not being allies of military dictatorships, we must remember that there were times until recently when the west helped the legitimate governments of mali niger to fight separatism and

radical islamism, and the question about... the territorial integrity of maliir is not questioned by anyone on the african continent, the legitimacy of the governments of these countries is questioned, so i would simply advise the officials of ukraine to be the officials of ukraine, and this to me it seems absolutely logical, because there is no need to give an excuse for ukraine to be accused of some actions that will allow us to compare it, say, with russian intervention, especially since everyone is waiting for this. mr. vitaly, after our last meeting with you. and serhii shog shoigu, the former minister of defense of the russian federation, and some people from the team, who are currently being arrested in russia for corruption, visited tehran, the capital of iran, and then went to baku, azerbaijan. we understand what it can be like these days to prepare iran, and there is also inside a different reading, what can be the answer to

the answer from'. yes, the guards corps of the islamic revolution is for a more radical approach , the newly-minted president masoud pezashkiyan is supposedly for a more restrained one, but with less, what did shoigu forget, and considering the information that russia is sending some samples of its weapons there, what could this mean? well, i think that russia perfectly understands that iran is its ally, and it is helping in this war. allies who can open to supply russia with weapons, the kremlin, not so much. and from this point of view, of course, he could not have come there. on the other hand, there is different information about what he advises iran, which vladimir putin also passed on. there is information that russia generally advised iran to refrain from a serious attack on israel. i don't think it's because the russians are in any way very sympathetic to israel, but because they might fear

that a ... a retaliatory strike would destroy all their efforts in iran, say, destroy the iranian nuclear facility, say that nuclear facility on tanzi, which can be used for the production of nuclear weapons, that it must be prevented, because if iran gets rid of the main scapegoat in its war with the west, then of course russia's position can be weakened. by the way, we still don't know what iran is preparing for, because we see that the tehrani said that they are about to strike at... israel, we were already counting the hours until this strike, but then everything somehow stopped, perhaps because the iranians received the results of the investigation into the circumstances of the assassination of the head of the hamas politburo ismail hani, because there are many theories here, and there is also a lot of talk about the fact that hania became a victim of internal political clashes in the leadership of hamas itself.