moreover, currently the defense forces of ukraine control approximately 1,000 km of liberated territories. it is worth mentioning that the very nature of the military operation testifies to the increase of the subjectivity of ukraine, both in terms of military, political, and informational, military, let's remember that two weeks before the start of the military operation in the territory of the kurt region, head of the main intelligence department of the ministry. of defense, bodanov is wrong about the fact that russian troops are accumulating forces in the northern direction it was believed that it was the ukrainian-belarusian border. instead, in your ether, i am talking about the fact that it is possible that we are talking about the sumy direction. accordingly, the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense, having information about the transfer of personnel of the armed forces of the russian federation and heavy armored vehicles , prevented the formation on the territory. kursk

region of the invasion contingent, which aimed to repeat the kharkiv scenario, that is , an attack on ukrainian territory already directly in the direction of sumy. hit on preemption disrupted these plans of the russian side and led to serious successes of the defense forces of ukraine, namely the advance into the russian territory, according to various estimates, up to 35-40 km, if it is called. then, accordingly, the advance continues, moreover, let's talk about the fact that during the successful offensive of the defense forces of ukraine, it was possible to take control of territories much larger than the russian invaders captured in three months during the large-scale offensive in the kharkiv direction. in the kharkiv direction, let me remind you, the maximum depth of advance of the russian invaders... 8 km. in the donetsk

direction, during the three months of fighting, during the summer offensive of the russian invaders, when hundreds of thousands of regular troops of the russian federation were involved, the total superiority of the air and means of defeat. advancement up to 10 km and occupied 12 settlements. currently, the defense forces of ukraine control approximately 40 settlements in the kurt region. from 28 to 44, this is an indicator, that is, we are talking about the fact that during the week of battles of the defense forces of ukraine were able to take under their control three times more population centers than the occupiers during three months of fighting in the donetsk direction, this is the military component of this operation, politically, of course, the control of 1000 square kilometers of russian territory increases the subjectivity of the ukrainian side during the victory. process, this was

the main plan of this military operation, to disrupt, accordingly, the russian vision, to end the war at the expense of territorial concessions. let me remind you, literally, again a couple of weeks before the ukrainian offensive in the kursk region, the russian dictator said that the only possible plan for settling the war in ukraine is the withdrawal of the armed forces of ukraine from the controlled territories of the donetsk, luhansk, zaporizhzhya, and kherson regions, this was factual. mate, after the successful offensive of the ukrainian side, and let me remind you, it was possible to break through two lines of defense, two worth 200 million dollars, you can forget about the kremlin hotels, ukraine will already put forward its own demands, especially since on the third day of the ukrainian offensive it became clear that the defense force of ukraine is anchored in those territories, which were the first reports that ukrainian...

units are conducting intensive engineering and fortification works, which indicates that these territories will be held. you know, i'm glad to read in the russian public that it will take half a year, or even a year, for the russian side to regain control over these territories. by the way, today the russian dictator held a corresponding meeting with the power bloc, where he raised questions about the return of the occupied, in his opinion, historical ukrainian lands, i emphasize once again, these are ukrainian lands, i would like to dwell a little on this particular meeting of putin, here it was really a great pleasure to read the telegraph agency of the soviet union, this is what they have been living since then , putin convenes a meeting on the situation in the border areas. regions, an assessment of what

is happening in these regions will be given, but the main task now is to knock out the enemy, putin says, demanding to provide hope. he instructs to cover the border with ukraine after the enemy is knocked out of the territory of the russian federation civilians, administrations, departments, to provide the power structures with everything necessary in the field of transport, medicine and finance, we all saw, well, actually, who is interested in content from the russian public, how does it all happen, there are no evacuations and aid to the civilian population, and putin declares about the need for an effective fight against ukrainian drgs within the framework of the contra'. operation in these border regions, mr. dmitry, well, it seems that this is the first recognition that they do not control their sovereign territories, if we say about the history of these territories, so we can

use the thesis that you noted, if we are talking about international law and about us as a country that observes it, well actually. of the russian federation and their sovereign territory, this is now under question. what do you think putin can do and does he have the resources to, well, i don't know, push our troops out, or strike where it's thinner for us now. and when we look at the pokrovsky, for example, direction, or in general the east of our country, we understand that slowly, but progress is being made. if i'm not mistaken, today we are talking about the last section from 2015, that is, the section where the front of the 15th year did not move, but today the russians actually managed to overcome it, it is unfortunately a trend, so your opinion on this

account, well let's start with those conclusions, currently there are 100,000 internally displaced persons in the russian federation, it's official. the numbers announced by the russian side, and this is, accordingly, a destabilization of the situation in the russian federation itself. the russian government on the second day after invasion, he was forced to allocate a rather serious sum for mobilization, sorry, evacuation, 1.8 billion rubles. but the main thing that we need to understand is that the ukrainian side actually mirrored the events in the kharkiv region, when the russian side hoped that the russians would... and , accordingly, the burden on the central and local budgets at the time of ensuring the evacuation of the civilian population, this is

and now regarding the possibility of putin, by the way, it is worth noting that the transfer of units of the russian regular army from the line. a combat clash still takes place, despite numerous statements in the ukrainian segment that such processes are not observed: a unit of the 810th marine brigade was withdrawn from the kharkiv direction, units of the first army corps of the so-called dpr were withdrawn from the donetsk direction, in particular, the pyatnashka brigade and the first assault squad of the former wagner pmk under the command of the field commander in addition, ratibor was thrown without... special units of the akhmat regiment, well, as far as special units are concerned, we saw, in fact, on the video published by the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense, there is talk of capturing their prisoners, less so, regular units have already started filming, and the most

combat-ready and transfer from the territory of ukraine to the kursk region. in addition, i do not rule out the possibility of carpet bombing one's own territories. it was already used accordingly and... skanderde for strikes on the territory exactly in kursk oblast, in addition, the favorite tactic of the russian occupiers will most likely be used - this is the scorched earth tactic, but this will already apply, respectively , to the settlements on the territory of the russian federation itself, and here it is not by chance that the humanitarian nature of the instructions of the ukrainian president to the ukrainian security forces was mentioned. accordingly, i do not rule out that the ukrainian security forces will have to face the issue of evacuating the russian civilian population, who will suffer from carpet bombing by their own aircraft. except moreover, i do not rule out the possibility of activation , respectively, at the moment of missile terror and

uav strikes on the residential infrastructure of ukrainian cities. this is again a favorite tactic of the russian dictator. when there are no successes on the line. combat clash, especially since there is currently still a situation in the kurt region, they will, in my opinion, once again use terror tactics against the civilian population of ukrainian cities, so it is necessary... to be ready for a correspondingly adequate reaction, that is, the population must also perfectly understand their algorithm of actions, and accordingly, let's say so, the military command must clearly understand the further actions of the russian occupiers, this is what they can respond with, plus, ms. khrystyna, i do not exclude the main lever of influence of the russian federation on the world community, it is nuclear terrorism, not by chance. it was russian narratives that were so actively promoted by useful idiots, the so-called military experts in

the ukrainian environment, regarding the possibility of capturing the kurdish as, and look at the events that are happening synchronously with these reports, but already captured by the russians at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, the creation of an artificial man-made disaster, the radioactive release did not occur, but the russian side will not stop to... accordingly accuse ukraine as a country of nuclear terrorism, that is , indiscriminate attacks on nuclear facilities and sabotage of nuclear atomic power plants, both captured zaporizhzhya and, accordingly, under the control of russia, the kurdish as. ugh. mr. dmytro, a little bit about belarus is a lot of new things, belarusian dictator lukashenko said. actually, exactly somewhere these days we remember the revolution that never took place in this country, four years ago.

lukashenko ordered to strengthen the border with our country, to then bring in special forces, even quite heavy equipment, rocket salvo systems, and so on. in general, does it feel like he is trying to balance his public appearance? but i don't know if he succeeds in it, i wonder what our viewers think about this, dear viewers and listeners, today we ask you whether you think it is likely that belarus will attack ukraine, i.e. not just the entry of russian troops from the territory of belarus, the direct participation of the belarusian military, belarus as a country with their own hands, but against us, if you think that this is likely, then please call 08... 211 381, if if you think that no, it is impossible, then 0800 211

382, ​​all your calls will be free of charge, and your opinion is invaluable to us, and i am now addressing this question to dmytro snigerev, mr. dmytro, once again, lukashenka's public appearance, and those rhetorical figures that are from under his university, well so to speak, they flew out, what did they do, to try to draw attention to... our military-political leadership in that direction, or to try, well, i don't know, to demonstrate to putin that in general we are with you, but somehow not actively interfering we are going the second option, ms. khrystyna, let's talk about the fact that lukashenko's statement was made after the corresponding criticism of the actions of the belarusian leadership by the russian media, and this is not only a public telegram, but also official russian officials made corresponding statements, it was said that that... the russian lukashenko created the prerequisites for an offensive in the kurb region when he withdrew

his troops from the ukrainian-belarusian border, i.e. he did not go to create artificial tension on this section of the ukrainian border, and i will remind you, its length is about a thousand km, and to cover it the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine had to withdraw significant operational reserves, both human and appropriate equipment and material. resources, and here the main thing is to say that lukashenko can say anything, even taking into account criticism a russian, he is really trying to pass, as our first president said, between krapelek, and now what about drops, it is respectively beijing, and the countries of the west, and moscow, he is trying to balance, why beijing? i will remind you of the position of the people's republic of china, which considers belarus to be its outpost at the time of further advancement on the european stage. belarus is in the zone of military and political influence of the people's republic of china. remember,

ms. khrystyna, it is no coincidence that after the joint chinese-belarusian exercises, the issue of tension on the ukrainian-belarusian border disappeared a priori. it is the position china was key. and russia can make any claims against the belarusian leader, but in my opinion, he is not the subject of decision-making. a big decision. the account will depend on the official policy position of the people's republic of china, and now let's recall the statement of the people's republic of china regarding the events in the kursk people's republic. you were not surprised by... a calm , balanced tone, there is no need to escalate, but nevertheless we state the fact, this is the answer, that is, everything in this situation will depend on comrade c's position, comrade c is disinterested, accordingly, swept away of the russian federation, he does not need it, he will weaken it in any way, and by

the way, ms. khrystyna, remember that just the other day there is a message that the russian side is experiencing problems at the time of mutual settlements with chinese partners, moreover, since the first of july - this is for the useful again idiots of military experts, who spread the thesis that the prc provides military technology, the prc introduced, in fact put up an iron barrier at the time of the further transfer of dual-purpose goods to the russian federation. mr. dmytro, i really like you thanks for joining. before the new week at espresso, dmytro snigiryuv, a military expert, co-leader of the public initiative on the right, was in touch with us. well, now we have the opportunity to include in the conversation roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine. mr. roman, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. good day, glory to the heroes. a few questions, if i have the opportunity,

and i understand that most likely this opportunity may be limited in... so, kurshchyna, it is her we are currently discussing, the russians for the first time recognize the fact of losing control over significant territories, precisely in the kursk region, the local governor reports this, a few moments to listen to the direct language, please. today , 28 settlements are under enemy control. the depth of penetration into kurdish territory. people whose fate we do not know. at the same time , the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, in the telegram channel, actually also admits that it

is now about the kursk region of the russian federation and the work of the defense forces right here. besides. instructed the minister of internal affairs and other government officials of the security service of ukraine to prepare a humanitarian plan for the territory of the operation, well, the cards are opening a little bit, and mr. roman, what is really happening in the kursk region now, to what extent does it have a deep military-political aspect? well, i think, here already, let's put it this way, if we talk in general, then the defense forces of ukraine are conducting. general operation to seize russian territories, which, let's say, have several goals from my point of view, the first is the distraction of russian forces from hotter directions, from active directions, where the russians are pushing us, it is

a matter of intercepting the initiative, with the forces we are working with here, intercepting, it was only possible to intercept the initiative here and... and our military leadership did it, well, you see here you have the exchange fund, the kadyrivs have really increased quite a lot, and there are many conscripts, and there are officers, so this is also an important story, then, well, let’s say, the moral and psychological state, i will say, the fighters who are here, they are like in high spirits and are leaving... realizing that they are doing an important thing and are bringing our victory closer, so many aspects, well, i say that at the level, you see our international partners, and inside the country, this is a serious operation, which is morally - from a psychological point of view, and from a political point of view, has very important such, important consequences. mr. roman, as a people's deputy,

how do you assess the risks and advantages, let's say... of the political aspect of what is happening in kursk region, because if we talk about internationally recognized borders and international law, then definitely russia is a country that spoiled this history and not in 2024 22, but much earlier and not even in ukraine. on the other hand, we position ourselves as a country that adheres to relevant international norms, and on the other hand , we see that for a long time our partners resisted and did not want to give us favors. for the use of certain weapons, now they are already talking about additional leopards in the direction, seeing that the defense forces are capable of success directly on the territory of russia, what has changed? well, i think we finally are realized that only by pursuing our national interests and doing everything for victory, not only on the territory of ukraine, but also

outside it, we saw that before this, gur had already started to do it, now the defense forces have already started doing it, we must do everything in order for our victory to come closer, we are very grateful to our partners, we listen to their advice, but we do what is in our interests, i say again. it was difficult for the staff that even work here to seize the initiative, for example, in pokrovsk, or , for example, near kupliansk, but here it is direction, we have imposed our actions on the enemy, the enemy must now do something, we must not forget, we still have thousands of kilometers of the border where we can carry out the same actions, and the enemy must consolidate them, it is necessary, well, to mobilize, or to completely remove these from the active sites. and set up all thousands of kilometers of the border, so, let's say, here we see that it will have serious consequences, including for the defense of our

country, what will happen next? i will say, even if there will be, i don't know, just which one in the future, or i won't say which ones future plans, there may be several options, depending on the actions of the enemy, which he will impose, how he will react to it, but even if the defense forces there decide to withdraw, for example, then exactly this operation has already been played... both our historical role and from the point of view of showing that we are ready to do anything to liberate our territories, it was very right to cross, to show that we are ready to cross these red lines that, as it were, someone drew for us , and now in fact, even there without having there at the moment there super large reserves, and russia will understand that their thousands of kilometers of the border are unprotected or protected only by border guards and military personnel in... they are under great threat, at any moment it can happen in any direction, especially since we have already shown that we can covertly bring our troops to the borders,

in principle, recently ukraine received the possibility of reinforcement in the sky by aviation, can we say that it can work precisely in this operational direction, well, it will depend on the decision of the command, so how they will make a decision. mr. roman, a few more questions, belarus, our border with this country, in principle certain movements are recorded, i do not know how convincing they are in a military sense, whether in your opinion this is a real threat or a bluff and an attempt to somehow maneuver now, i i think that this should be explained first of all by intelligence, whether it is a bluff or not, and we... should perceive it as a real threat, because we have already seen that the russian federation sent its troops to us from the territory of belarus, so to say that

russia cannot use the forces of belarus, tim more, who are part of the csto, of course, do not believe in it, but we must be ready for it. ugh, actually what lukashenko said, he does not understand why all this is for ukraine, but he gives instructions to strengthen the groups. why is this in ukraine, i do not understand, we need to figure it out, but, as i said, we clearly conveyed to them the information that any provocations will not remain without our response, therefore the ministry of defense and the general staff of belarus are instructed to take appropriate measures to , to reliably provide. and sir roman, there are very different assessments of this operation in

international media, sometimes authoritative media, we understand that there may be certain reservations, but some of them believe that ukraine is going to waste, and this decision of the military-political leadership of our country is the most risky in the given circumstances , if... we talk about, we understand that there is a war, if we talk about the worst version of the development of events, how can it affect us, well, honestly, i don't see here that here can have something that can have a strong effect there, what i am talking about there with their acquaintances, they are delighted because you can see that this was the background recently, that ukraine seems to be losing, ukraine is moving eastwards, somewhere we are in the box. came out, that is, ordinary people, there who are not involved in the war, or there abroad, for them even the fact that we , while leaving, inflict a great defeat on the enemy, for them it looks like a type, well,

logically from.. . we go down, so we lose, and this was the background, the discrediting of the military leadership began, and this background was intensified, including the russian pso, which picked up everything, and this operation, i will tell you, even talking with the soldiers, they are now on the rise, we see how even in the information field, trust in the defense forces, and in general in our army, has risen, and the fact that our partners, they are also watching in the majority, maybe someone there, as you say correctly, somehow evaluates in his own way, but this operation has already given. its effect is great, once again, it is important, of course, to bring it to its logical end, it is very important to have, let's say this, the effect, it is the end of the operation that was conceived, to prevent the enemy, because we are in the threatening direction, on the right, on the left, it is necessary to hold the flanks unambiguously, to prevent the enemy from breaking through there, or for him to close the ring there, all this must be done by the military, but from my point of view, this

operation already has a strategic effect even before... the operation in the border regions of ukraine, this means that full-fledged representatives of the federal security service, the russian special service, will be refueling in these regions. actually, what is your impression of actually russian visas? and you mean damn as it is portrayed, here is the russian service, well , the federal security service, it, it is really able to estimate the scale, we should not underestimate the enemy, looking here, who are we talking about, now there is a story that the defense forces of ukraine took many prisoners, fesbeshniks, well, in fact , they are border guards, they are fsbshniks, because they are part of

the fsb. and well, we cannot underestimate the enemy. the fsb is a fairly strong structure, we have to take this into account and definitely not engage in hat-throwing, we need always be ready for the fact that, say, the fsb can conduct its operations there and react quite seriously to certain operations of ours, our conducted operations, so here is our security service of ukraine, which is also here now in kursk region and sumy region. works quite well and also together with the armed forces helps, let's say, helps our armed forces advance, and i also understand that they are preparing a humanitarian plan for the territory of the operation on the instructions of the president, that's what he wrote about, well, the president, i i think i should have given an order to hold a referendum, but why not, many people here speak ukrainian, so by the way, i wanted to ask you if it is true, is it true that

the villages of kurshchyna speak ukrainian? look a lot, i personally didn’t hear it, but i personally just didn’t hear it, but many fighters with whom i communicate really say that they speak ukrainian, especially those who are older, those who are still russians there, let’s say so, no, no, they didn’t have time to break through, ugh, what does the communication of ukrainian troops look like with the local ones, what's left, and ukrainians are always decent, everything is fine, and how about you, how do they react? they are afraid, i don’t know, they live in propaganda all their lives, i think that let’s say this, i didn’t contact, let’s say this, let’s say that, well, maybe colleagues share, we understand, but mr. roman, one more important point , when we talk about the operation in kurshchyna, many people quite ambitiously mention the energy facilities located there, i am not talking about gas now, i am talking about the nuclear power plant, what happened

literally yesterday at... the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant power plant, when again the president announced that from nikopol we are recording and seeing the fire at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. in your opinion, these things are related to each other, that is , a russian provocation, it is, in principle , placed in the context of our actions in the kursk region? the fact is that i am here right now, right on, let’s say, in the northern direction, and this situation... i heard so from the mass media and just what can i say now, without analyzing, without having time to analyze there or talk to specialists, then i think that the russians could to provoke there by hinting at something that we will cause an accident there, or something, because we understand that putin is a person who is now trying to threaten everyone from the very beginning of the war, he threatened, he tried to hint at something.