and to neutralize the threat in the kurt region, it is impossible if we do not stop the offensive in donbas, but now let's see how the russians will act, i think that they will make the wrong decisions and drive the situation into a situation close to disaster. and why, why, mr. mykhailo, did the russians fall into this trap, that is, it is a misunderstanding of the situation, or the arrogance of putin, that he and his war wing... that they did not count on the fact that the ukrainians would go on the offensive in kurshchyna, the reasons for this , why did they miss this one moment, and if this is the situation in kurshchyna, then it may repeat itself in voronizka oblast and bryansk oblast, that is, they are not ready for the fact that the war is returning to their home, where it came from, so they are not ready for it at all.. . absolutely did not count on such

a development of events, they simply did not allow mentally, or they probably already allow, mentally did not allow that the ukrainians could violate this holy, holy border, the holy border of the empire, as the ukrainians do, and they they know that our partners are very against the escalation of the conflict, they, our partners , generally forbade a projectile to fly there, here a military group actually crosses the border and conducts... well, absolutely an operation that the russians could not even think about, and i will emphasize here, i am sure that the military the intelligence of russia reported to the high command, the top military-political leadership, that the formation of groups that have the characteristics of offensive groups is noted, i am sure that this was reported, because there is intelligence in russia, there are a lot of drones that constantly conducted reconnaissance there, they struck the aviation, they... struck with drones

, the drg was active there, the special operations forces were active there, that is, in principle, they had 100% of the information and they reported this information, but the political leadership , i think, simply laughed at this information and said that it was impossible, that is, ukrainians cannot cross the border with russia, because the americans will now shout at them and turn them back, especially how they can at all to... dare, just dare to cross the border with russia is simply impossible, and that is why they fell into this trap again not by underestimating the enemy, they fell into this trap in february 22, when they suffered a huge defeat, which in principle meant a defeat, in principle, of this operation, but what is happening right now is putin's attempt to come out with a good face with a bad game, and now the next failure is precisely because of our underestimation...

mental even underestimation of the enemy, they believe that the ukrainians will not dare to behave like this, and this played against them this one is evil it's a joke when they don't know what to do now, because they really don't have enough forces here to stop this operation, which is calculated and implemented simply at the highest level of professionalism. people's deputy of ukraine, sbu colonel roman kostenko, who is currently in the combat zone in the northeast, on the espresso broadcast, highly appreciated the military-political and moral-psychological effect of the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine. let's listen to what colonel kostenko said. this operation, i will tell you, even talking to the soldiers, they are on the rise now. we see how trust in the defense forces and in general in our army has risen even in the information field, and the fact that our partners, they are also watching in the majority, maybe someone there...

you are right, somehow evaluates in his own way, but this operation has already had its effect, great, once again, it is important, of course, to bring it to its logical end, it is very important to have, let's say so, the effect, this is the end of the operation, which was conceived, to prevent the enemy, because we are in a threatening direction, right, on the left, it is necessary to hold e flanks unambiguously, not to allow them there breakthrough of the enemy, or for him to close the ring there, all this must be done by the military, but from my point of view , this operation already has a strategic effect and helps us in all directions, not only here in kurshchyna. mr. mykhailo, what could russia's actions be, apart from overturning the troops and approaching the line on the flanks where they are standing or where the ukrainian troops are wedged in, that is, what can be done to act. putin and his military leadership in

the current situation, start massive shelling of ukrainian cities, use other areas of potential. front there, for example, north, northeast, up there in the sumy region, from voronytsk, bransk regions, to open another front, what can the russian army do now, what can it do? putin's toolkit is small, that is, everyone saw what state he is in, he is really in a state of shock, he does not know what commands to give, because gerasimov, the chief of the general staff, just... praised this situation, he just once again, simply demonstrated that he cannot really adequately assess the situation and reported to putin that everything is fine, everything is under control, and even the last, in his last report, in

the first days of the start of the kurdish operation, he reported that only a thousand ukrainian servicemen had crossed over, 700 had been killed, there were still remnants running through the forests and so on. that is, the reports are very similar to what was reported to putin in february -march of 2022 before the disaster, when they started fleeing from the kyiv, chernihiv, and sumy regions. that is, the toolkit is small. now you are showing that dyumin and zolotov are there - they are the closest people to putin, and it was information that putin allegedly instructed dyumin and zolotov to coordinate precisely the counter-terrorist operation. it's me, i'll say it, sir. mykhailo , two former bodyguards of putin to our audience. yes, yes. he still guarded gold in general. the mayor of leningrad flew out of my head to whom putin carried suitcases. sobchak that is, sobchak still employed young zolotov

as a personal bodyguard. then they met. and when putin became president in 1999, he summoned zolotov and he became his personal, or rather, the head of his bodyguard. and young dumin. this is such a boy a major, the son of a lieutenant general of the soviet military medical service, then he graduated from a military school and also got into putin's bodyguard from 1999, and they continued their journey, let's say, in a close circle, that is, he well, different information is coming in, now they seem to be denying that dyumin and zolotov were tasked... to coordinate this contrast operation, but in fact now putin does not know what to do, that is, gerasimov has been given the command to continue the offensive in donbas, perhaps dyumin zolotov will be tasked with coordinating counterinsurgency operation in the kurt region, but what to do next, if there are not enough reserves,

he cannot withdraw even one division from donbas, in order to somehow neutralize the threat of the advance of ukrainian forces in the kurt region, start more operations in the bryansk region, i think that ukrainian ones first. the troops there can start their operations in order to protect the flanks of our troops that are advancing in the kurt region, that is , the belgorod and bryansk regions, these are such flank areas where the ukrainian army can conduct its operations, and i think that they the initiative will not be given to the russians. as for massive missile strikes, well , some new resources, except for the possibility of iran transferring ballistic missiles to russia, have not been found, that is, the sanctions are still in effect, so russia has not... stopped the production of its missiles, but it has not radically increased its production, that is, they can accumulate a certain number of missiles, they can strike even at kiev, they do this all the time, but i do not think that this will be any news for the air defense of ukraine, because we also have f-16s that can effectively to fight cruise missiles, so even

for uh, to use patriots and sams more concentratedly against ballistic missiles, now there are more opportunities, so... even if they hit kiev, even if they hit civilian infrastructure, in principle they cannot surprise the armed forces of ukraine with anything, we are already used to the fact that there are inadequate bloodthirsty terrorists in the kremlin, so you can expect them every day, when they beat the ahmadis, there were no kurdish operations, they just took and hit the children's hospital, so some super... surprises, i don't think they can do it, that's why putin has such a look, he understands that in fact now his regime, stability is being tested of this vertical, the stability of the general demonstration of the regime's power, because if the russian elites feel

slack, feel that these old men who are sitting there, they lose control over the situation in general, they may rebel, because not everyone in the russian elite is ready to die together with putin, because in this elite, each of them has 10 billion dollars on a conditional basis and he would like to live some more, maybe agree with the west and somehow remove sanctions and so on, so the situation for... putin is very, very dangerous. mr. mykhailo, on the background of this, the ministry of defense of belarus and the head of the ministry hryenin announced that they are transferring troops to the border with ukraine, formally they accuse ukraine of the fact that ukrainian drones crossed the air, well, the border and entered the airspace of the republic of belarus, although the monitoring group of the belorussian gayun says that the ninth. of august, which is mentioned in the message of the ministry of defense of belarus, that

in fact there were no shots or rockets fired at drones on the territory of the republic of belarus, planes did not take off, helicopters did not take off either, and the spokesman of the state border service of ukraine, andriy demchenko, said on espresso about the fact that the ukrainian border guards have not yet recorded the transfer or build-up of the forces of the belarusian army. near the border of ukraine, let's listen to what demchenko said. of course i don't i can rule out that in order to create even such a picture as the ministry of defense of belarus spreads, they still move certain of their units, perhaps in a small number, but all this takes place deep within the territory of belarus, because near our border, there in maximum proximity, we do not record any movement. equipment, nor personnel from any units of the army of belarus. mr.

mykhailo, why does lukashenka create this picture that ukraine is a threat to security belarus, although on the contrary it is now and has been recorded since february 24, 2022, why should lukashenka rattle weapons? he wants to support putin in this way, who, well, actually fell into the trap of the armed forces of ukraine in kurshchi in kursk oblast. well, it's very interesting, in fact, you remember, a few weeks ago , lukashenko, on the contrary, withdrew troops from the border of ukraine, he solemnly announced this. and when the kurdish operation began, many russian military personnel, so -called bloggers, in principle there were also state deputies. they accused lukashenka of because he betrayed russia,

demonstratively took him to the collusion, he, they said there, that it was a collusion between lukashenko and zelensky, lukashenko withdraws his troops from the border with ukraine, ukraine takes advantage of this, gathers exactly those troops that were near the border of belarus , collects a shock fist and hits the kursk region, of course, this is completely delusional, but lukashenko's accusation has been heard, and lukashenko... in this way can address exactly the information space of russia, demonstrating that look, there is nothing like that, i return it his troops to the border with ukraine and is ready for battle, of course, he is not ready for any battle, i would sit quietly in his place, because his maneuvers just need to be understood that he has 10-15 thousand there troops that he can send to a real bo... some kind, which have never in their history, the armed forces of belarus participated in any peacekeeping operation,

not even in any combat clash, that is , it can be a very difficult situation for lukashenko, when he can provoke ukraine, and you know there, and minsk is 700 km away, that is, it’s actually clear here, that is, it’s a clear place, after all, it’s more peaceful now , somewhere there was already the season of potatoes on... it happens and so on, somewhere i would be engaged in gardening, i think he is doing this, that is, this plot has passed, and now they will sit quietly, because god forbid they will touch ukraine somewhere, it can really end with the collapse of lukashenka, he knows this, so he knows how much it is possible to press, how much it is not necessary to press, because the provocation is of a certain kind the real military may end for the lukashenka regime very, very well... well, thank you, mr. mykhailo, for the conversation, it was military expert mykhailo samus, friends, we continue

to work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook, and you can like this video, subscribe to our pages, and also take part in our survey. today it sounds like this: will the kursk operation of the armed forces of ukraine become a disaster for russia? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have a personal opinion on... please write it in the comments below this video. if you're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote. if you think that the course operation of the ukrainian army will end. disaster for russia, as president zelenskyi believes, then 0800 211381, not 0.800 211382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we will be in touch with maksym rozumny, political expert, doctor of political sciences. mr. maxim, i congratulate you, thank you for joining the broadcast. good evening.

come on, mr. maxim, and you will try to answer the question. which we pose to our tv viewers, will the kurdish operation of the ukrainian army be a disaster for russia, and i would also go on to say that it will also be a disaster for putin? this operation, of course, which changed something in the course of the russian-ukrainian war, i do not think that it will immediately become a disaster for the putin regime, but... but at least these changes are very significant, well, let's start with the fact that, in general, this operation, first, she was preparing, obviously more than one day and quite carefully, and we still do not know its strategic plan, but the truth is also that it, well, what is it called,

was not designed and implemented by the ukrainian side from a good life, the fact is that the russians are pressing already to... they are pressing for a long time, stubbornly, persistently, regardless of losses, and we are losing, populated areas, we are exhausted in this struggle, so it is obvious that some asymmetric actions were needed, er, transfer, so to speak, of the emphasis of combat operations to new territories, and this find of the general staff of the armed forces, it is obvious that... as it looks at the moment, it is quite successful, because it changes, so to speak, the dynamics, makes adjustments to the plans of the enemy, and in this sense it can become a point of reference in which ukraine can go over initiative on the battlefield. i'm not a military expert, so

i'll limit myself to commenting . the military side can take the initiative with this wording, but it means for the political situation in russia and, as you rightly noted, for the fate of the putin regime, such a small, allegedly change, it is very significant and perhaps even fateful, because as soon as putin starts to lose, as soon as putin shows... that he is not in control and that he is so to speak forced to defend himself, to react, he does not know what to do, we have seen these footage, he is quite he looks confused, he immediately loses authority and he loses that legitimacy, so to speak, which

has been formed today both in russian society and in the russian ruling class. this operation, a military operation, mr. maxim, is taking place against the background of talks about the upcoming peace summit, about the second one the peace summit, the global peace summit, and in fact, the majority of commentators in the western press are talking about what they say, in this way zelensky is trying to prepare the basis for future negotiations with russia, because russia is talking to ukraine. ultimatums and literally a month and a half ago, putin expressed his own vision of the conditions under which it is possible to talk about peace or a cease-fire, you give us four regions and the republic, the autonomous republic of crimea, and then we sit down at the negotiating table, we talk about something ,

the armed forces of ukraine are withdrawn from there, then we are talking about peace, against the background of what is happening in kurshchyna, the heads of foreign affairs of italy and switzerland, antonio tajani and ignazio cassis , signed a joint declaration calling for a second global peace summit with the involvement of all parties, including russia. we call for nuclear security, the release of prisoners of war and the establishment of lasting peace. we support holding a second peace summit with the participation of all parties, inclusive. with russia, says the declaration, whether the events in kurshchyna can push russia to participate in the global peace summit, or before starting... negotiations with ukraine, at least in the format as it was when the agreement on the grain corridor on the black sea was concluded, that is, when ukrainians and

russians do not communicate directly with each other, but there are intermediaries, and one side talks with ukraine, then this side talks with russia, then some kind of consensus is reached. to briefly answer the question, then i would say that no, this situation does not bring putin closer, does not encourage putin, well, actually, as the main subject of political in russia, before actually participating in any negotiation format, moreover, i think that putin will try to change the situation. and until he changes it, he will not be ready to negotiate. the fact is that putin is used to speaking from a position of strength, and frankly, those actions of the russian army on the front,

on the eastern front, on the southern front, this continuous pressure, uh, not counting the losses, which i already talked about, and without any visible strategic goal, in the military sense, actually this can be explained precisely by putin's preparation for the negotiations and forming this strong position, when his position is weakened, he naturally loses motivation for negotiations, that is, in fact, those negotiations on putin's terms, they are, well , if not very attractive to us, they are dangerous for us, because they threaten us with major concessions in our national interests and therefore we must create a situation in which putin will be forced to go to negotiations in the face of, so to speak, an inevitable disaster. so far

, the situation in kurshchyna does not look like such a disaster for him. uh, if we don't know how will this operation develop if we recall the previous years, 22nd, 23rd, when options were considered. to enter the main, so to speak, force of the enemy, which is concentrated in the donetsk direction in the luhansk donetsk regions from the north through the territory of russia, it could threaten the defeat of this group of enemy troops, in the face of such a threat, it is obvious that putin should have thought, and it is possible to agree to some inconvenient conditions for yourself, in the present'. situation, i think the peace summit, the second peace summit for russia's participation in these events, on the contrary, it is put under a big question mark, because

until the situation is resolved, until it becomes clear where it is going and whether ukraine seizes the initiative on the battlefield, it will be very difficult to force or encourage putin to such negotiations , the president mr. maxim, announced a decision that, he said, would strengthen spiritual independence from moscow. his statement came at a time when the verkhovna rada of ukraine is preparing to re-consider the draft law in the second reading on banning the activities of religious organizations related to with the russian federation. let's listen to what the president of ukraine said. i just held a preparatory meeting about a decision that will strengthen our ukrainian spiritual independence. we must deprive moscow of its last opportunities, limit the freedom of ukrainians, and the solutions for this must be 100% effective and

really work. we will provide them. mr. maksym, do these words and the president's confidence with which he spoke about the moscow church mean that the moscow church will be banned in ukraine. er, i would say it like this here that the moscow church in ukraine will get rid of the legal status that it has at the moment, because eh, well, it's logical, it's for many reasons, let's not go into it now, as for the current statement and the forecast in general, you know, a little earlier , i came across an article... by nikita poturayev, the head of the parliamentary profile committee, who actually spoke in support of this decision, nikita poturayev. one of

the leading representatives of the actual political power of the servant of the people and obviously close to the office president, and i understood that the decision was made in principle, and it is obvious that there is some kind of delay, it is, so to speak, connected with internal negotiations, the search for compromises, a political solution, but it seems that... indeed, at the moment, our power , consolidated and centralized in the person of president zelenskyi, made this decision. what could be the consequences of such a decision, that is, it will again make putin hysterically talk about the russian orthodox church, about ukrainian fascists, apply all

types of weapons in order to show that we are wrong, it means to the heads of kyivans and residents of other cities, because for putin this is a fundamental issue in his policy towards ukraine. i think that it will not be a big sensation, including for a russian citizen, a viewer of russian tv channels, because... well, for us, if we put it this way, everyday, then we have nothing to lose in their faces, we have long ago become ee by the nazis, and everything that is the worst possible, and that is, they, i think, will be on the contrary surprised that the russian church in ukraine has not yet been banned, because according to their ideas, something like this is already being done

to its priests, it is terrible, that is why there is such a sharp reaction to this act, to the fact that this law resolves certain legal issues of registration, property and so on, that is, it is not actually a religious conflict or discrimination of people on the basis of faith, so it will be difficult to make a new picture and some great propagandistic effect out of this, so to speak, everything else, everything else, is so to speak, just a russian-ukrainian part war, of course putin will take revenge , i think he has already accumulated enough internal motivation to do the worst that he can do

against ukraine. against our people, and of course that the day of independence is approaching, for the russians, it is like a red rag to the bull of that andalusian, and they will try to do something, but they have been trying to do something for a very long time, so we will wait, we will endure and we will bring victory closer, thank you, mr. maxim, it was maxim, a smart politician. doctor of political sciences. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel. we will now look at the interim results of our survey. today we ask you whether the kursk operation of the armed forces of ukraine will be a disaster for russia. 46% think yes, 54% - no, these are the results of our polls, which we conduct on tv on

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