if we do not know how this operation will develop, if we recall the previous years of the 22nd and 23rd, when options were considered to enter the main, so to speak, force of the enemy, which is concentrated in the donetsk direction, in the luhansk and donetsk regions, with north through the territory of russia, it could threaten the defeat of this group of troops. enemy, in the face of such a threat, it is obvious that putin should think, and perhaps agree to some uncomfortable conditions for himself, in the current situation, i think that the peace summit, the second peace summit with the participation russia, on the contrary, these events put it under a big question mark, because until the situation is resolved, until it becomes

clear what it is going to... will be very difficult. president zelenskyi, mr. maksym, announced a decision that, as he said, "will strengthen spiritual independence from moscow." his statement was made at a time when the verkhovna rada of ukraine is preparing to re -consider the draft law in the second reading prohibition of activities of religious organizations. connected with the russian federation, let's listen to what the president of ukraine said. i just held a preparatory meeting about a decision that will strengthen our ukrainian spiritual independence. we must deprive moscow of its last opportunities, limit the freedom of ukrainians. and solutions for this must be 100%. effective and really working. we will provide them. mr. maxim, does it mean? these

words and the confidence of the president, with which he spoke about the moscow church, that the moscow church will be banned in ukraine? er, i would here he said in this way that the moscow church in ukraine will get rid of the legal status that it has at the moment, because eh, well, it is logical, it is one of many. let's not go into it now, as for the current statement and the forecast in general, you know, a little earlier, i came across an article by nikita poturaev, the head of the parliamentary profile committee, who actually spoke in support of this decision, nikita poturaev, one of the leading representatives of the political forces servant of the people and... and close

apparently to the office of the president, and i understood that a decision, a principled decision has been made, and it is obvious that there is some kind of delay, it is, so to speak, connected with some kind of internal negotiations, the search for compromises, a political solution, but it seems that our power is really consolidated at the moment. uh, centralized, uh, in the person of president zelensky, made this decision. what could be the consequences of such a decision, that is, it will again force putin to hysterically talk about the russian orthodox church, about ukrainian fascists, to use all kinds of weapons for to show that we are wrong, that is, to the heads of kyivans and...

residents of other cities, because for putin this is a fundamental issue in his policy towards ukraine. i think that this will not be a big sensation, including for a russian citizen, a viewer of russian tv channels, since, well, for us, if we put it this way, everyday, then... we have nothing to lose in their faces, we have long since become ee by the nazis, and all that is possible the worst, and that is, they, i think, will be surprised, on the contrary, that the russian church in ukraine has not yet been banned, because according to their ideas, they are probably already doing something like that with their priests, it is terrible, that is why there is such a sharp reaction to... this act

, in fact, this law actually solves certain legal issues of registration. property and so on, that is, it is not actually a religious conflict or discrimination of people on the basis of faith, so it will be difficult to make a new picture out of this, so to speak, and to achieve some great propaganda effect, everything else, everything else, it is so so to speak just part of the russian-ukrainian war, of course putin will take revenge in... i think he has already accumulated enough internal motivation to do the worst that he can do against ukraine, against our people, and of course that the day of independence is approaching, for the russians,

it is, so to speak, like a red rag to the bull of the anti-russian one, and they will try to do something, but they have been trying to do something for a very long time, so we will wait, we will be patient and we will bring it closer victory thank you, mr. maksym, it was maksym, a smart political expert, doctor of political science. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel. we will now look at the interim results of our survey. today we ask you about this: will the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine be a disaster for russia? 46%. think yes, 54% - no, there are discounts until independence day on edem, 25% in psyllanyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. the book women at war is a joint project

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this is all we will be talking about for the next 45 minutes. however, before we begin our conversation with our guests, please take our survey. today we ask you about whether the kursk operation of the armed forces of ukraine will be a disaster for russia, as zelensky believes: yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you watch us on tv, pick it up. smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers 0800 211 381, if you think that the course operation of the ukrainian army will end in a disaster for russia, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce today's guests, they are yevgenia kravchuk, people's deputy of ukraine from the faction. naroda, deputy head of the parliamentary committee on issues of humanitarian and information policy,

chairman of the pare committee on culture, science, media and sports. ms. yevgenia, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. yaroslav zheleznyak, people's deputy of ukraine from the holos faction, first deputy chairman of the parliamentary committee on finance, tax and customs policy. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you. thank you for joining our broadcast. good evening. pavlenko, people's deputy of ukraine from european solidarity, member of the parliamentary committee with issues of education, science and innovation. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. well, ladies and gentlemen, we are asking our viewers and tv viewers what they think, whether the kursk operation of the armed forces of ukraine will be a disaster for russia. i will ask you about it. let's try to give in the blitz-survey format. the answer to this question, ms. evgenia, we start with you, well, she is already becoming one, and for

russia, such symbolic defeats, even humiliation, well, it really hits the general image of the so-called government and in general controllability of the situation, thank you, ms. evgenia, mr. rostyslav, i would also use the present continuous and. the current extended time, because it is unfolding before our eyes, and it is very important what the next moves of our military will be, because it is necessary to seize the initiative and press putin, because he is still far from a catastrophe, unfortunately, but there is a lot that our military can do here, we need to focus on supporting them. thank you, mr. yaroslav, i don't think it's just this operation, let's put it this way. will be a disaster, but this is definitely a new page, this

this is exactly a page that is written in our favor, and i think that the greatest effect will be psychological and even, probably not on putin, he probably has nothing human left, on our partners, who were very afraid of escalation before that, well , it seems to me that the excuse is quite eloquent that... there has been no escalation beyond what we already have now, well, yes, where can we escalate further, let’s actually listen to what president zelensky said, i mentioned that this is the opinion of the supreme commander in chief the armed forces of ukraine, the president of ukraine, what does zelensky say? we see how russia is actually moving under putin, 24 years ago there was the kursk disaster, the symbolic beginning of it. management, and now it is clear that it is the end for him, and also kursk, the disaster

of his war, it always happens to those who despise people and any rules, russia brought war to others, now it is coming home, ukraine always wanted only peace, and we will definitely ensure peace, mrs. evgenia, most of the commentators who wrote about... the kursk breakthrough and the offensive on the kursk region in the international media say that in the current situation ukraine is improving its negotiating positions in order to ab... hold negotiations, or through mediators, or at the peace summit to talk about some version of a peace agreement or an agreement on ceasefire, and that this is one of the steps, this special operation, this is one of the steps to strengthen our position, as much as these positions are strengthened in

the current situation, and what our western partners are saying, that is... they are also afraid, eh - that putin will be responsible and that too respond quite harshly to the actions of the ukrainian army in kurshchyna, including in peaceful cities of ukraine. well, first of all, it is very good that all these international commentators and ukrainian ones did not know anything about this operation, because actually, this effect of surprise, it is very positive in... the smooth speed of the advance of our troops, if we talk about it , what this gives is tactical, well, first of all, it gives a large exchange fund, and we hope that we will be able to return our prisoners, who are in much worse conditions in russian prisons or in temporarily occupied

territories, than all these conscripts and and and and everyone who... surrendered and now today the president said during the address that there are hundreds and hundreds of people there, and it is also tactical , well, in fact, attention and reserves are drawn to another, to another part of the front, and russia needs to spend more people, reserves in order to at least get closer, as they say there, to stabilization. if we talk about it strategically, then we have seen the reaction of, for example, the senators of the united states, who simply do not no have concealed their approach to this operation, we hope that this will give a boost in american policy and in general in decisions about how we can use weapons

at long range, because now we are actually doing this, moving the artillery. fewer kabs, although, of course, that all these front-line territories, the northern territory of sumy region, they will suffer, and it is good that the evacuation is organized, and of course, that for negotiations is a strong argument, and a strong argument and a strong trump card, and here it will also be depend on the further actions of our military, which we definitely support in all operations, still planned. mr. rostyslav, this is kirby, john kirby, this is the strategic communications coordinator of the white house national security council, says that putin can stop the war against ukraine if he is so worried about the situation in the kursk region, to quote mr. kirby: this, this is putin's war against ukraine, and if he

doesn't like something, if something doesn't satisfy him, there is a very simple solution, let him go under three cho. tise of ukraine and ends the war - said kirby, judging by the reactions in russia to this kursk operation, judging by the expression on putin's face when he received information about what was happening in kurshchyna and gave instructions to his security forces, can we say that putin's regime suffered a very serious blow, a reputational blow, well, first of all... within the russian state , because our western partners are talking about the fact that he either stops the war or goes to hell, he will continue to receive it in various regions bordering ukraine, i understand that voronizka, bryansk, bilhorodsk, and in such way the war will return to where it came from,

well, it is known that the best negotiator on the part of ukraine from there are armed forces of ukraine and we see a very effective method of conducting such negotiations, and here it is important that various means are used so that the russians do not understand what awaits them next, and this is probably the only way to win for ukraine, which has fewer resources, has fewer troops , has less economy and so on, but definitely thinks better and definitely acts better, and this... attention must be used, and it is clear that such a strategic the initiative may be really intercepted by ukraine, and it is very important that our... western partners are beginning to view the situation in a completely different way, but now, it seems to me, putin and his henchmen are in a certain phase of rejection, they are still waiting for it

will somehow become clear that if two more battalions are thrown in there, and then three more battalions, then somehow it can be dealt with, and to the extent of how this will be done by the armed forces of ukraine, to the extent that attitudes and... plans may change in russian leadership, so far they have really been hit, the predator is wounded, this is not his first such injury, but they will not stop right now, and right now, it seems to me, neither putin nor his cronies are ready for any negotiations, because for them it is also to a certain extent, a war for survival, but not the survival of the nation, as for us, but the survival of the empire, for... the survival of their way of seeing the world and living in this world, and therefore the only really way to force them to negotiate on the terms of ukraine, the result of which there will be a ukrainian

victory and the liberation of all of ukraine, this keep hitting him like that. thank you, mr. rostislav, mr. yaroslav, please tell me, but the story that is unfolding before us now, does it show the weakness of the russian... military-political elite that this power, which putin tried to demonstrate, playing with his weapons on the whole world and showing how he can and what he can do, that in fact this whole system that they have from the center to the regions and in general all these vertical structures, that they are not effective, that this state. .. is militarized, but it is not controlled, that putin cannot control russia as, as he shows

outside, as he shows on tv? well, it seems to me that it is obvious that it is difficult to talk about the strongest army in the world and claim some kind of geopolitical influence there, and ... the status of a superpower, if under your nose and under your nose your military is captured or liberated, i will probably say 72 inhabitants points, and with all this military economy, you can't even make all the threats that were once surely paid attention to the same western partners, well, they ended up with nothing. it is telling that for the first time since the second world war, russia has seized territories, and, let's be

frank, quite defiantly and easily, and how russian propaganda is silent, or tries, well, with all its might, if possible, to downplay what is happening, well , this... seems to me to be the best compliment to our armed forces of ukraine, therefore, we, probably, should not be very interested in some image of putin there, well, i think that we all concluded a long time ago, ten years ago, and this is how the western media came out with enough, i wouldn't even say, not even negative publications, but such mockery. publications about russia, specifically this dictator, well, i think that he will not be able to erase this scar from his face for a long, long time and it

will remain a big red spot on him. mrs. tapanova, your colleague, roman kostenko, colonel of the security service of ukraine and secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence. jokingly addressed the speaker of the parliament ruslan stefanchuk from the border of the russian federation in the sumy region, calling it a foreign business trip. let's listen to what colonel kostenko said. ruslan oleksiyovych, i am now in front of the russian federation, i’m sorry that i don’t have permission, but i will still go there together with our defense forces, and then... i will write a letter about the business trip, mrs. yevgenia, clearly the colonel of the sbu, roman kostenko hinted to the fact

that he... was not signed for a foreign mission when he wanted to go to the munich security conference, by the way, and now he is without any order stefanchuk entered the territory of the russian federation. tell me when your great monomajority, led by ruslan stefanchuk, will cancel these humiliating foreign business trips for people's deputies. ukraine, because it looks a little like this, is very strange when the representatives of the parliamentary committee on national security and defense, in particular the secretary of the committee, cannot go abroad and talk with foreign colleagues at the munich security conference, at the profile for roman kostenko. well, i am not ready to comment on the actions of those who signed or not

signed the business trip. kostenko, because well, i go through absolutely all the procedures in the same way, and believe me, some of our monomajority business trips end with david georgiyovich rahami not signing, so sometimes we have a more difficult situation, especially when it comes to plenary days, and of course, that the faction wants the deputies to be in the hall and vote on important laws, but i agree that the departure of the people's deputies can only be. abroad, but only in official necessity, and it is obvious that this is supported society, because some vacations or just some private visits, of course, they are inappropriate, but i really appreciate colleagues who are really professionally engaged in parliamentary diplomacy, i myself travel a lot by steamboat to various international events and i know what it

really is... it becomes more and more difficult to maintain focus. thank you, ms. yevgenia. sir, rostyslav, please tell me what colonel kostenko said, you and your colleagues in the faction are already faced with it, that is, the only thing that is surprising in this situation is that this joking with which roman spoke stefanchuk, she... in principle, irony, in principle, this irony and benevolence is very good, perhaps after all, in the third year of the war, the question should be asked that people's deputies of ukraine are people who defend the position of ukraine, that there is conditional opposition to the government, but we all play in the same team, in the team of the ukrainian state. well

, this would absolutely be the right approach, because now ukraine is starting to pick up the initiative, now is simply a golden time for using the means of parliamentary diplomacy, the means of expert diplomacy, with the inclusion of journalists, the inclusion of various opinion leaders, to conduct a diplomatic offensive in support of the actions of our armed forces, because now everyone who understands will be included... putin, now we will begin to hear a lot of all sorts of nonsense that will be thrown by russians through their channels through useful and useless idiots in different countries of the world, we will hear a lot about various ukrainian corruption there, various ukrainian abuses and all kinds of similar things, and it is not interrupted only by the statements of representatives of the authorities that everything is fine with us, on the contrary, it is precisely joint work, i emphasize,

what is abroad really. we all defend the interests of ukraine, the joint work of both the majority and the opposition factions, experts, it would serve a common goal, and now, if ukraine is able to turn the tide of the war, then this moment can be used to to return that true unity that was there in march 22nd, when no one particularly looked around in terms of political positions, because everyone... understood what was at stake, and this, well, it's a pity that this will most likely not happen, but it would be a very, very appropriate moment. thank you sir yaroslav, please tell me how, how often your faction is faced with the fact that you are not signed by foreign business trips, because, well, kostenko is one of the examples of what we now call, but...