there will be three guests, two people's deputies of ukraine, akhtem cheygos and valentina leveychenko , and the former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine pavlo klimkin. in the second part of our program, which will start in exactly one hour, we will have two political experts, volodymyr fesenko and oleksiy koshel. however, before we begin our big conversation today, i suggest you watch the video of the aftermath of the strikes by the defense forces on russian airfields that took place during the last night, and russian resources claim to have shot down, as it were, 117 drones in eight regions of russia, but many more drones achieved their goals, military airfields in voronezh, kursk, savasleyka and borisoglebsk were affected. let's watch this video.

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211 382 i would like to introduce today 's first guest, this is valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the parliamentary committee on ukraine's integration with the eu, head of the security service of ukraine twice in 2006-10, 2014-15 , mr. valentin, i congratulate you , thank you for being with us today, good evening, i'm glad to see you, well, let's start with a blow of strength airfield defense, military airfields, and one of these airfields is savasli. either there are daggers there and we declare endless armed with daggers, or we suspect that air alarms, that is, what russia says about 117 downed drones, this means that we have more opportunities to attack military airfields, this is somehow is it related to the events in kurchyna, that is, we have gone deeper into russia and can deliver these blows from there? this is due to the fact that

the armed forces of ukraine really have more opportunities here: since these are drones, it targeting is a special technique, but the second, i think, is even more important, that our servicemen, our defenders, have mastered such modern equipment and are now able, think about it, to strike the enemy on his own territory 650 km to savasleyka, to this most dangerous for us military above the airfield, from which you absolutely rightly guessed mig 31 along with daggers and together with all the threat, because every alarm during the working day, for example, it is usually 90% connected with the evils of mig 31, and from savasliika. i think basically today's attack is so serious, and with targeting in seven or even nine regions of the russian federation by the armed forces of ukraine. demonstrated first of all

to the enemy, as well as to the whole world, that our military knows military goals, our armed forces know how to get there, the only question that we leave in the work for ourselves, i mean, there is already more work with international partners, such as myself and i'm doing, it's still getting more long-range weapons, including missiles, not just drones, and let's, quite rightly, sergey, permits for the use of those missiles that are already at the disposal of the armed forces of ukraine, because we have clearly just returned from negotiations, it is no secret that not one american delegation is in europe quite often, but now we have been working with american partners these days , the main argument for them, from me, is that your spare parts, components, even chips are sometimes found in russian missiles, there is, well, there is nothing to hide, the fact that they enter illegally, through third countries, we hope that the sanctions will be tougher. that's fine, but

not enough it will be enough for us, give permission to use long-range missiles legally obtained from you, mastered by the armed forces of ukraine, because as soon as... they were mastered by our servicemen, it is already our weapon, it is already our decision, it is already legal on the basis of bilateral international agreements, received means of defense of the country and protection of citizens, the main argument for our international partners is that we want to use and will use long-range weapons, primarily missiles to protect the civilian population, energy, foreign embassies, by the way, in kyiv and everything that should... be protected during the war. the so-called kurdish breakthrough has been going on for 7 days, that is, the defense forces have entered the territory of the russian federation and are pushing the enemy deep into russia. is this a sufficient argument for our western partners to allow the use of other equipment, other weapons already on the territory of russia.

now the main argument, i still gave it, dear tv viewers, this is the main argument - it is the protection of peaceful cities and towns of ukraine. it is the protection of the civilian population, hospitals, schools, this is the main argument, and the operation that is now being successfully carried out by the armed forces of ukraine as an offensive, as a counteroffensive, in the kurdish direction, it has more, if you like, from me and what the whole world now recognizes, has more political and international, of international political consequences and results, and with this you can and should congratulate the armed forces of ukraine, in short... there are already two international results, they are on the surface. today, the kadyrivites reported in the morning that the court is apparently already under the control of the russian armed forces federation. oleksandr syrskyi, the head of the armed forces of ukraine, reported to zelenskyi and said that the armed forces of ukraine had taken full control of the city judge in the kursk region.

let's listen to what sersky said. groups of defense forces continue to conduct an offensive operation on the territory of kursk. oblast at the beginning of the current day, the troops advanced from one to 2 km in separate directions, the search and destruction of the enemy in the settlement of suja was completed, and more than 100 enemy servicemen were captured since the beginning of the day. well, by the way, about these prisoners, about whom sirskyi mentioned that more than 100 servicemen were taken in just one day, but zelenskyi said that...hundreds of russian servicemen are surrendering in the kurdish direction, let's listen to the supreme commander. we are increasing the territory of active actions. holovkom reported that our forces control 74 settlements in

the kurt region. thanks to every soldier, every commander, who ensure this. thanks again to all our guys who will fill in. exchange fund, it is very important for our state, there are already hundreds of russian soldiers surrendered as prisoners, and they all receive humane treatment, they did not have such treatment even in their own russian army, here is the special operation of ukraine, it became a surprise for the russians, judging by everything, and a lot of prisoners, including, in what way, sir valentin, the ukrainians managed to ensure... uh, secrecy, secrecy, and in this situation, russian intelligence agents, uh, maybe didn't report to their supreme commander about what was happening in the sumy region. i think that the most important thing is that the armed forces of ukraine really worked professionally, the secret was kept

military, even when the operation was essentially ongoing, and the counteroffensive in the kursk direction began, this is the first time, the second time, i believe that this is very correct, and we should have banned all kinds of politicians and pseudo-experts, you know , to comment, show and direct the enemy to our defenders, you know, in order to hype or promote and create a picture that supposedly someone knows something, should know and it is true, the commander-in-chief knows now what is happening, if you ask me, i believe commander-in-chief syrskyi and i know that he is saying what, in fact, what kind of combat work is being carried out by the armed forces of ukraine, but in addition to... military secrecy, professionally, since the nato troops are fighting, this time the armed forces have shown, including and more two things, this is maneuverability and mobility, this is already a modern army, our armed forces carry out this offensive, counteroffensive and the entire operation extremely mobile and maneuverable, these are

the signs of such a, you know, already professional, well- trained army using modern means of warfare, because... modern means are not just a drone, it's not just one took off, looked, no, it was planned, there were whole swarms of drones working, before mobile groups came in, then maneuvers. drones are working again, well , we will not reveal a military secret, but according to the content and form of the work of the armed forces on the territory of the kurdish direction, i authoritatively declare that this is a modern army with modern methods of conducting combat operations, as for one of the results, which is really very important is the fact that russian conscripts are surrendering en masse, it is true, that is, it is an absolutely unmotivated army, this myth has been destroyed by the armed forces of ukraine about the alleged power of the russian army, about their motivation and so

on . those who do not receive millions and are not mercenaries in the armed forces of russia surrender and surrender en masse in the armed forces of ukraine. this, by the way, is one of the military results that the armed forces of ukraine have already achieved. that is, putin, having led his army to ukraine, and through 2.5 years of the great war had a negative result, that is, actually. in the world, which can influence any events, well, that is, how would you describe the result that russia got as a result of this, forgive me, let's say how it is, in fact, not just the armed forces of the destroyers of the russian army , not only conscripts and not only are surrendered as prisoners, and they are up to... by the way, there are already almost a thousand, even more have crossed over, but i think that the general staff will announce more accurate numbers,

meaning captured servicemen of russia, but the most important thing from the international political result is that all countries, especially countries neighboring russia, saw that there are no borders, and this army, with which putin and his regime intimidated all neighboring countries and the whole world, has disappeared the most important thing the fear of neighboring countries, especially countries, of russia, which, first of all, has amassed many territories, starting from finland and ending with japan, this is if you take the contour, perimeter of all the borders of russia, therefore from japan, mongolia, china and on to europe , everyone saw that the politics of intimidation and the occupation of the territories of putin and putin's russia is over, but remember, it will never be possible again... neither putin nor his regime can intimidate the world and other countries, and

destroyed this myth: the armed forces of ukraine. there is no doubt about it. mr. valentin, over the past two years, both putin and medvedev have quite often repeated that they have, in accordance with their nuclear doctrine and their security doctrine, they use these weapons in the event that there is a threat to their territorial integrity or part of the territory, and judging by with that... it's been a week, they still haven't decided whether to defend themselves with nuclear weapons against the ukrainians or not, they introduced the regime of the so-called counterterrorist operation, what does that mean, they don't want to declare a regime or a state of martial law and a state of war with ukraine, they are trying to avoid this, they say that this is a counter-terrorist operation, and in this way, in principle , to explain to the russians, listen, there are terrorists, there are four hundred of them, as gerasimov said and... and that is why we do not use the most threatening your own weapon. another conclusion

one, and he will explain, dear tv viewers, why putin and this alcoholic medvedev and others are acting like this, regarding the counter-terrorist operations in the three regions that have already been announced, namely kursk, bryansk and bilhorodsk. but because they announce the kto, because they cannot protect their own citizens inside the country, they cannot, and that was all, you know, a lie , to apply something more than they had, but the most important thing is that in the case of recognition and military the introduction of martial law, putin will be forced to declare mobilization, he cannot do it can't even announce mobilization, i'm already explaining on specific technical matters, look at how many conscripts immediately surrendered, it's only on the border, imagine if we give such conditional figures even, 200 thousand will mobilize in... if it recognizes that this is martial law putin or his military-political leadership, how many of

them will surrender immediately, i say at once, at least 10%. can you imagine the scale of the disaster to which putin led, led, led all these years of war against ukraine, russia, and he continues to lead it there, and sergei, if you ask me, they have no good scenarios left, no matter what they do now, only worse, worse and worse, and leads to the disintegration and collapse of russia itself. therefore, my main conclusion is that it is putin, his decisions and his war against ukraine that are destroying russia itself. look even at the so-called evacuation, more precisely about its withdrawal. existence in the russian federation, even in the kursk region, why the civilian population was not evacuated, why did they invent and indeed you are right for several days, they did not know what to say, then voluntary evacuation, then in general there is no evacuation, now they have come up with a way to hide the residents of the kursk region, sending them all the way to the territory of the zaporizhzhia region, so that they do not tell

other relatives in russia, who were abandoned by the government, abandoned by the military, abandoned by everyone, and they stayed altogether. without any protection, despite the fact that putin's regime feeds all this with its propaganda that we will protect you, you obey us here, we are the government, we guarantee you everything that they guarantee, they guarantee that everyone ran away and abandoned their own citizens, and now the ukrainian military guarantees and they are doing the right thing in observing humanitarian law, observing humanitarian corridors, so in those territories where the armed forces are now for the residents of the kursk region, please, do you want a humanitarian corridor? to leave in that direction, if you want to leave ukraine, leave. well, regarding the humanitarian corridor and how ukrainian servicemen should administer these territories, which are currently under the control of the armed forces of ukraine, zelenskyi also spoke today, he spoke with the obtusman, with the government about what with the head of the armed forces of ukraine, what it is necessary to create military command posts

that will administer and maintain order on the territory of the kursk region, which is under our control, but what does the creation of such command posts mean, that is, does it mean that the temporary power in these territories will come under the control of ukraine? i think that it should be left to the decision of our military, the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, what and where to create, because now our defenders are performing much more difficult combat tasks, and it is necessary, i would think, you have to worry about their lives, about the success of the operation, about their provision. the daily, because it is already the ninth day, counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine in the kurdish direction, and look at the other directions, there is also very active combat work, and to support our armed forces more than ever, i call on everyone who is watching, and by the way, let's note that the kurdish direction and the kurdish offensive of the armed forces of ukraine raised so much

concern from the citizens of ukraine, raised the morale even higher in the armed forces, these are also two once... to be proud, but returning to international humanitarian law, i really , as a professional lawyer, tell you that this is correct, and the ukrainian armed forces from the very first day adhere to the principles of international humanitarian law, even on the territory of the kurdish region, well, there are several of them conventions, including geneva, but the main postulate is that civilians are not targets, civilians. full respect for movement, residence and so on, that is, the armed forces of ukraine perform exclusively combat tasks and destroy exclusively because the military goals of the country of the aggressor, defending ukraine, that is, we, the armed forces, did not just come there, you know, because there is nothing to do, you told me before the broadcast, you yourself were born in the sumy region, how many

schools and roads have already been destroyed there by the aggressor , people were killed, you know, in a brutal way, because they could go... to bend under the border artillery, mortars and not just pulled up, but they fired at peaceful cities of ukraine in the sumy region for 2.5 years, so the armed forces, protecting ukraine, armed forces of ukraine, they repelled and continue to repulse, they push the enemy away from our borders, this is what the meaning is for international law, and for you and me, yes, unfortunately, my native school, where i studied, also suffered, so unfortunately , but i hope that we will from... build and repair it, another topic, mr. valentin, is the transfer of troops by the russians, and this is what the minister of defense of lithuania, laurinas kaščunas, is talking about, he says that the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine in the kursk region forces the russian ministry of defense to transfer the troops located in kaliningrad to kenissberg. let's listen to what the defense minister of lithuania said.

we now see how. how they are redeploying their troops from kaliningrad to kursk, and i say to the lithuanian people, you look at how the ukrainians are fighting for you, because because of their struggle, they need to withdraw their troops from kaliningrad, and we even call it the demilitarization of kaliningrad, which is due to bravery your military, thanks to your decisions, putin is trying to solve something and is transferring troops from kalining. and lukashenko suddenly announced that that ukraine threatens belarus and is pulling up here, they announced the pulling up of tanks, iskanders, as well as mlrs. who were inside the state here closer to the ukrainian border, are putin and lukashenko capable

of creating any additional problems for ukraine in this story, which is now unfolding before our eyes, on the northern front, after all , we have a 1100 km border with belarus, chernihiv region, that is, to what extent putin is capable of doing what... would create certain problems for us in kurshchyna, and in the eastern and southern directions. let's go completely let's open this bluff as well. you remember, putin created the csto, talked about how it is an organization, the collective security agreement of the former ussr countries, the cis, where russia presided, belarus is included, turkmenistan, kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, uzbekistan, all are included, armenia, of course, pashinyanyan. i quickly understood that you were the first to leave there even before the kurdish offensive, and with the kursk offensive , none of the csto countries is going to defend russia, which is why putin collapsed the csto, as you know,

in the second, third year of the war with ukraine. further, as far as belarus is concerned, even belarus, even lukashenko , did not and will not allow his troops to defend or fight in kursk oblast, which is directly stipulated by their alliance agreement. instead, what he 's doing, he's... he's doing troop movements, as usual, to avoid at least any participation, at least in some way in armed, you know, armed actions against the armed forces of ukraine, so i consider it as the first, the that lukashenko abandons putin and is not going to use his troops, although the direct agreement provides for this, despite the fact that you see how the armed forces of ukraine advance seriously every day, including in different directions. both western and eastern, but my second conclusion is that this imitation, or even the movement of troops, is, you know, how to cover up your eyes, show putin, you see, i

have my territory here, so i can’t give it to anyone, he’s bluffing and not giving his troops , thank you, mr. valentin, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine, after a little story, friends, we will return to the studio, we will be in touch with akhtem cheygos, the people's a deputy of ukraine, but for now, take a look. a story about how lviv teenagers from school years learn to defend their homeland and learn military affairs and tactical medicine, national-patriotic training was held at the lviv lyceum named after heroiv krut, our correspondents talked with the participants. from the national anthem of ukraine and the military line. national-patriotic education begins at the lviv lyceum named after young activists, members of public organizations and youth councils gathered here. we all understand what situation ukraine is in now, we are waging a war, what kind of war

there is no end in sight yet, and we must be ready for our entire country, all the people to defend their state, for the youth to also join the ranks of the armed forces, to prepare themselves, to be able to protect themselves, their relatives, loved ones, as well as our entire people in general. the participants were divided into eight groups and prepared for them. instruction in medical, tactical and military affairs. the youth learned how to fly drones, run an obstacle course, play paintball, shoot air and laser weapons, and detect explosive devices. they are here now will see how this training takes place by itself, will acquire some practical skills for its further use, directly in combat operations, if someone associates himself with the military. special forces of the omega unit explain to students how to load different types of grenade launchers and rifles, activist roman vyhopan tests a sample of

american-made anti-tank weapons. currently, military training is extremely important, since, taking into account today's realities, one must always be ready for any events and you always need to have a certain amount of knowledge so that... any emergency situation does not become fatal. meanwhile, some students are practicing with quadcopters at a nearby location. teenagers listen to instruction in tactical medicine, they are shown how to stop bleeding. everyone should know about tourniquets, i believe, because in the event of severe bleeding, a tourniquet will be needed first of all. that is why i believe that young medicine is very important. first, we had a small briefing, where we were shown which functions, which buttons are responsible for, and how take off, turn off the drone in general, and so on, and then everyone had the opportunity to control

the drone. try it yourself. schoolchildren and students are instructed by the lyceum teachers themselves. you can say that we are now helping them how to shoot properly, showing them so that, well, they don't point a weapon at anyone. well, it all has to be explained to them, i don't think every one of them can know it. the military-patriotic school was organized by the lviv regional council. the teenagers learned how to work in a team, respond to danger and handle weapons. catherine oliynyk, roman kovalyuk, espresso tv channel. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms, please subscribe to our pages and also take part in our survey, today we we ask you about this, does the servant of the people party support the banning of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, what do you think about it, yes , no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have a separate opinion, please leave it in the comments under this video, if you watch

us telee pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on 0800 211 381 if you think that the servant of the people supports the ban of the roc in ukraine? no 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next , we will be in touch with akhtem cheygoz, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the mejlis of the crimean tatar people, mr. akhtem, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today... glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. mr. akhtem, well, we are witnessing the deployment of a kurdish special operation with the armed forces of ukraine. zelensky says that the events in kurshchyna are a disaster for putin's russia. can putin's liberation of crimea from the russians accelerate this catastrophe? in my opinion, the disaster started when nobody knew. about this operation in

kurdsk, in the direction of kurdsk, because before that everyone was talking in tongues and what was needed and what was not needed, and all this came from the entourage of president zelenskyi. this really came as a surprise to everyone, and first of all to putin and his gang. god forbid that in the crimea there was the same surprise because, well, sorry, but the people in charge. for such secret special operations, they haven't done it yet, they're already talking about it, and whether it's bragging, but probably it would apply to politicians or some public figures, here the head there, let's say, a special special of such

a special institution. slowly gives such an interview everywhere, yes, this is wrong, because it should not be assumed that this information will not be studied and will have significance for the enemy, but in crimea, that is, nothing like that at all, i think that did not happen in.. kursk, because in history, we know from history that where there are problematic areas of the front, it is necessary to strike, yes, and the fact that this happened is very correct, true, and of course, it greatly influenced putin himself and his surroundings, and in general, this population , because it always hid behind the military for

mints, as we say, yes. for the security forces, for the fsb, and this has been since the time of stalin, and no matter what they did, no matter how they mocked the people, they were always right, and that is why they have such a strong tradition, and it also started like that in crimea, those all those who love russia the descendants of all these creatures that took advantage of me. in the 44th year, after they were deported to our people and other peoples, yes, actually condemned to genocide, they came for free, settled down, settled in our houses, lived and enjoyed the benefits.