who is in this area, let's imagine that ukraine will not be able to quickly exchange these territories, the kremlin will not agree to give the donbas there or the crimea, the south and take the kurshchyna for themselves, and in general they will sneeze at these territories, a month, two, six months pass, which ukraine may face further challenges, i don't know how to take these people into account, not to take them, to provide them with documents, not to provide them, in general, what legal field do they fall into then. they are in the legal field of the russian federation, in addition to the fact that it physically controls this territory ukrainian army. this means that in the future, for example, in winter, ukraine is obliged to provide local residents, as i already mentioned, with a roof over their heads, for those who lost their homes due to the military actions of any party, and the right. order

by itself, let's say, looting should not be allowed, we are responsible for complete order, but this is an occupation, we, there are, that is, there are expressive persons that we do not claim to be in this territory, this is indeed a fact, yes, mykhailo podolyak about he said that, but we have the right to occupy, yes, yes, mykhailo podolyak said that ukraine is not interested in occupying these territories, but a situation may simply develop that russia will not be interested in exchanging them. territories, well, at least we don’t hear about it now, they hope to win them back by military means, i have one last question, do i understand correctly that if time drags on, ukraine must provide everything, the work of hospitals, educational institutions, and some help not only maybe humanitarian, like water and food, but also money, i understood correctly, yes, because, for example, the education of children is a human right, which includes the fact that... we are obliged, as

the country that occupies these territories, to provide local residents, of course, with health care, we are not obliged to, well, i don't know, to create some resorts there or something like that, but the minimum vital provision is absolutely up to us, this must be clearly known, because if this occupation continues for a long time, and there are some incidents, there may be some local population far from the zones. hostilities or so on, then this is our responsibility, and we are very interested, and it is right, to show, no, not to what extent to show and prove that we are really civilized in contrast to our enemies, the russians and what they are doing in the territories they occupy, i thank you very much for telling us all about this in such detail, ivan lozovy, lawyer- internationalist, we talked about how the territory of the kursk region can further develop in such a legal field. from the point of view of international

law. thank you very much. well, we will continue to talk about what challenges the ukrainian state may face in the near future or in the longer term. in connection with the fact that the ukrainian army controls, well, according to the latest data, as oleksandr syrskyi reported today, supposedly 82 settlements of the kursk region. oleg dunda, people's deputy of ukraine, servant of the people and representative of the committee on the organization of state power, local self-government and regional development joins our broadcast. i congratulate you. greetings, good evening. olezhe, aren't you going to go to kurshchyna? for what? there is a local beach there, let him go about his life, why should i go there? well, maybe these the territories will be under the control of russia for a long time in order to control the order. territories that are under the control of russia, there ukraine, i apologize, ukraine, i made a mistake if they will be under the control of ukraine for a long time, right? me, as the representatives of the president's office and zelensk also noted. and

president zelenskyi spoke about it, we do not occupy the territory, it just so happened that there are hostilities currently taking place on the territory of the russian empire, and this, but these are not identical occupations, we do not occupy foreign territories, we have no there is no point in occupying them, we do not claim these territories, these lands, we have our own borders of 1991 and we don't need anything else, so it happened that there are fighting for livelihood, in general for development. and the need to provide services to the local population, the local government must answer to the local government, it is there, it is elected, it does not matter in any way, let them be responsible for themselves, we have no right to interfere in local activities. and by the way, you know, many people think that commenting on this whole situation from a military point of view, that ukraine is carrying out such asymmetric military actions in relation to russia, well , there can be asymmetric political actions at the same time, you allow yourself, for example, that volodymyr zelenskyi... will go on a visit to the court, well, this is

his decision, but i will note once again that you as a deputy supported such a decision, i support the decision that we do not claim these territories. and we should not interfere in the activities of local authorities, there will soon be, there will be elections soon, there soon there will be elections, by the way, and let them hold it, we will not interfere with it, how they hold it, it is their local decision, after all, just like here, all power rests with local communities, so let them elect whomever they want, as they wish, we should not interfere in this, we have no right, it is our business to win back our territories, to strike at the enemy's logistics and communications, and not to occupy some there... the settlements of kursk, belgrade and others, it is the opposite, from the point of view of our activity and our goal, it will actually not replace it, it will be useless for us activities, and nevertheless, i did not understand from your answer, would you support it if

volodymyr zelenskyy expressed a desire to go there? i doubt that he will go there, it is the territory of another state, there is no point for officials to be present there, i heard you. volodymyr zelenskyi, by the way, today called on the verkhovna rada to convene urgently, and he said that you should consider a number of issues, in particular guarantees for the ukrainian military, who are participating in the battles in the kursk region, and also for them and for those military personnel who will still take part in other actions there on the territory of russia, and what other actions may be involved, do you think, well, do you seriously think that we will now talk about what actions will take place, maybe more, and maybe it is not mandatory necessarily military. perhaps the creation of commandant's offices, for example, today lawyers announced the creation of commandant's offices, the commandant's office in sanzhe is in sundzhich, as it is called, in fact it is a judge, it actually shows us that this has become the situation today, a deep rear for our operations, precisely therefore there and a command post has been created,

there is absolutely no sense in creating command posts on the line of combat reports, and in this case, what actions we will take in the future , we will see in the near future whether it will be belgorod region or bryan region, it does not matter but... it will definitely happen here as well volodymyr volodymyr oleksandrovich absolutely accurately stated this. and how do you assess the challenges facing ukraine now in establishing contact or communicating with the local population that remains in these territories? well, as i mentioned from the very beginning, we should not interfere in the activities and local government, there is no government there, oleg, there is no local government there, well, they have all left, the administrative buildings are empty, that's the business of the local government.

to exist on these territories, ukraine has nothing to do with it, we have no right to interfere with them in this case, as they provide it, so it will be. am i correct in my understanding that if the keeping of these territories under the control of ukraine continues now, and the exchange will not take place there, conditionally speaking, the exchange of territories today and tomorrow, to ukraine, to ukrainian budget, there is an additional responsibility to somehow maintain these territories, it will all be financed from... about the exchange of territory, i 'm sorry, where did you get this information? i don't have that information, but a lot of experts, both political and military, admit that one of the goals of this operation was, if we're talking about political goals, it was to raise the stakes, so to speak , during the exchange, during the negotiations and there

to propose an exchange of territories, i don’t know what these experts are based on, i see official statements from the president’s office, with of the ministry of defense, and... i do not see such theses regarding the exchange of territories there, explain to me how you see this, this, this, the purpose of this operation, it is actually a raid operation in order to cut off what panelyak mentioned about cutting off communication, logistics the enemy and actually affect their bodies and their front, but the raid operation is an entry and exit, in this case they entered and remain there, opening the military command, it is your judgment that it entered and exited, as far as i understand, in military there may be another judgment, it is not only that he entered and left, it is different, acquires different types, different forms, it entered and stayed for an indefinite period, further, and went further, let’s say this, or changed the location, it did not enter, and

that is not less, like you, do i understand correctly that ukraine will in the near future support these territories from its budget, is it possible that you will ask for help, so far no docs. i say once again, there are local authorities there, let them maintain their territories and their cities, we will not influence it in any way. kursk region the area is quite rich, there are funds and resources there, everything to ensure their activities, they have more than enough. they are able to do it, if, of course, they are ready for it. ukraine does not have any right or desire to hold it in this territory. but the international law lawyer who was just on our air, he, he says, no, he, he cited international law, he says that according to the letter of the law, ukraine was occupied. territory, it was a forced occupation within the defense there, but the results are such that ukraine

now must, must hold and support these people, civilians, give the opportunity to leave if they want, i mean, look, from the point of view of international law, he is right, but let's consider what an occupation is, we don't consider that we are carrying out occupation actions and we did not occupy this territory, that's all, but what do you think it was then, we conduct a raid operation and actually conduct combat operations on their territory, but we are not... their territory, we do not claim their land and have no right and we have no desire to rule these territories, i.e. you do not allow any annexation of these territories to ukraine in the future, you are serious now, the president's office told you and everyone told you, i am asking you this absolutely seriously, because i see a lot, i will explain, maybe i will explain why i i ask this, i see. many posts on social networks from both the military and officials,

even those who hold certain positions in the armed forces of ukraine, on their private pages in social networks, they write: "we return ours when it comes, for example, to the court." mrs please, there is also a lot written on zabor, there is an official position of the state, let's proceed from this, and not comment on any statements and posts on facebook, well, let's be serious after all, well, excuse me, let's quote someone else, let's have some a person somewhere will write... posts in warsaw or we will seriously think about what she wrote, there is an official statement, we do not claim any territories outside the borders of 91, everything else is nonsense, and let's not talk that there is no point panila, come on, you are a serious journalist, seriously. oleg dunda, a people's deputy from the servant of the people, told us that he does not think it is right if the representatives of the ukrainian authorities go to the judges as well. or in the kursk territory, thank you very much, and in the meantime, in the sumy oblast hospitals

, servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine who took part in the kursk offensive are being treated these days, and now we can briefly listen to what they told the journalists who asked them about the circumstances of this service and about injuries, well, about the event itself or the raid, as oleg dunda just said in this territory, listen, we personally went more than 25 km. a clip, that is, as far as i can tell , back and forth, back and forth, it was literally three days ago, i was walking like this, we were cleaning houses, uh, looking for russian soldiers, and an attack happened right in my yard, i fell, that’s all , i scream, 300, they ran up to me, put tourniquets on me and that's all, i was waiting for evacuation, i couldn't believe it, of course. i will get out of there alive, i have already removed these turnstiles, that's all, i already wanted to

to die, honestly, it’s just not explainable, we waited a long time, yes, yes, and then very well, yes, there are very big trenches in them, in them under 3 m, everything is lined with wood on the sides of the wall, the floor even wooden in those trenches, very large, m, well, they left them, they knew that we were going to come in, well, and we continue to monitor the situation on the... on the kurshchyna, we will monitor how the events will develop, we will inform you about it, and we will analyze in detail the statements of officials from this occasion, this is svoboda live, subscribe to radio svoboda's youtube page, like this broadcast if you want to support our work until tomorrow. there are discounts until independence day on decatelen, 15% in

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you are watching the program of the ukrainian voice of america chas time. my name is maria ulyanovska. white house national security adviser john kirby reported on the movement of russian troops from positions in the occupied territory of ukraine in the direction of the kursk region. however, it is still too early to talk about the number and purpose of these troops. yes, to my question ostap yarysh's colleagues responded at the pentagon. we will talk in more detail about the course of the kursk operation with my colleague andriy borys, who is joining the live broadcast. i congratulate andria. greetings maria. so, a debate arose again in the media about whether ukraine reported. partners in advance about this operation, some russian media even write that it was the west that planned these events, how do they react to these statements in washington? yes,

maria, there are indeed such accusations, in fact, the voice of america addressed this issue to the us national security council, and there was short answer, no, the ukrainian government did not inform us about this operation in advance, but as you know, ukraine constantly informs the united states. actually about the course of action at the front and this was announced by john kirby, adviser on communications in the field of national security of the usa. as previously reported in the pentagon, the us fully agrees with the actions of ukraine, these are legitimate actions to protect ukrainians, ukrainian ukraine in this war. vedan batel, deputy spokesman of the state department, said today that the united states is focused on ensuring that ukrainian partners had what it takes to protect against russian aggression, it's also important to add, there was an interesting discussion on this topic today at the atlantic council, and one of

the speakers, debra kagan, a senior advisor at the atlantic council, she said that russia, in fact, trying to constantly talk about the fact that this is a war of the west against russia, and not a war of ukraine against russia, it actually underestimates ukraine, and in fact it was, it helped ukraine to escape from the russian kurdish operation, as it stated , putin did not expect that the event would allow ukraine to act so sharply on chicken moreover, she says, the united states and president biden should now focus on providing more weapons. john herbs, who was also a participant in this discussion, the former ambassador of the united states to ukraine, said the following that russia, to. it is also necessary for america to work on the next aid package for ukraine for next year. the publication writes to the politician that they have already

promised about it. during his visit to kyiv, congressmen addressed zelenskyi, and representatives of helsinska appealed to biden as well commission, the house of representatives of the united states, in fact, i ask you to listen to what they wrote. it is time to take advantage of this success , and it is the duty of the united states to redouble our support by allowing ukraine to strike deep inside russia and supply them with f-16s. its long-range weapons systems they need to drive russia out of ukraine and ensure safety, peace and security for the ukrainian people. andriy, actually, against the background of these events, we are once again hearing threats about the use of nuclear weapons, this once from putin's ally, the de facto leader of belarus, alexander lukashenko, is this seen as a direct threat in the west? yes, in fact, john kirgi,

the adviser on communication and security, spoke about this today. one gets the impression that the west is already tired of such threats, and here is the quote that he actually responded to a possible nuclear threat, we have not seen or heard anything that would make us change our own strategic deterrent, position or calculation, this topic also at the atlantic council, actually discussed, which i mentioned earlier mentioned, and it was talked about there by konstantin egerst, a deutschewall journalist and former russian... he says that putin actually doesn't, he won't be able to use nuclear weapons, he will be afraid to use nuclear weapons, even if he wanted to use tactical nuclear weapons, he be afraid of the reaction from him, from his accomplices, so to speak, since he does not make decisions himself, and in general, konstantin eggers says that this operation in the kurtsk region, it significantly undermined. and

the authority of vladimir putin, actually from these considerations and he did not fail to conduct mobilization, additional mobilization in connection with the events in kurshchyna itself. please listen to the detailed commentary of konstantin eggers. a large number of russians have already understood that going to battle against ukraine means either death or returning with serious injuries in a state unsuitable for... a normal life, so fewer and fewer people are ready to go to fight even if the payment for it is increased. politically, putin found himself in possibly the most dangerous situation during his 25 years in power. if he leaves on the mobilization that will affect big cities, and people there are more informed, live better, understand the essence of war more, then people will protest en masse against being sent to death. actually, my own sea,

actually to sum up. and earlier we also talked about this with a representative analyst of the institute for the study of war, he said that he was very surprised that putin did not introduce martial law, but that he decided not to declare war in ukraine, because that would it would be logical, this is an attack on the territory of russia, and he explains it by in fact, that putin is afraid of what egerst talked about, he is afraid of a frank... direct reaction from russian citizens, not only his own, actually his cronies in power, so he is actually governed by fear. mary thank you, andrii, we will definitely follow this topic in the following programs. i will remind you that andriy borys told us about the news surrounding the operation of the armed forces of ukraine in kurshchyna. meanwhile, in washington, a group of marines from the 36th brigade of the armed forces urged not to forget about the ukrainian prisoners of war. about russian

slavery. defense officials told the americans the soldiers of mariupol, who themselves went through captivity, told my colleague iryna shinkarenko about torture, recovery after release and what kind of attitude they want from those around them. i led a unit that was fighting its way through the ambush. i make a decision, and it is followed by people who believed in my plan. there were more than 200 of us, and 186 of them were marines. in the ukrainian house in washington, serhii volynskyi, the former commander of the 36th separate brigade of the marines... spends time surrounded by yazovstal and in russian captivity. a hellish captivity awaited us. tours, interrogations, torture, terrible food and inhuman living conditions. for me, it lasted four months, three of which i spent in a disciplinary cell. galina fedyshyn, a military medic of the 36th marine infantry brigade, was also among those who were captured during the escape from azovstal in may 2022. my captivity continued.