organizations or places where to honor the memory of the dead, and also, maybe there will be a meeting with the diaspora, but the time is very little, i don't know, we made one appeal, and i collected the signatures of about 215 people in these two days from monday , and already yesterday we sent him an appeal saying that please, you have this, that, that, this is our appeal to you directly. and they received in the prime minister's office, i was told yesterday, and that is, we'll see if he meets with us, that will be good, they received and passed on, don't you know, exactly to mr. narend, no, well, the adviser said that we will talk to him, so we have it, that is, you understand, we need to break some channel so that there is direct direct communication with him, and so that he knows the truth, whether he will have, again, this may not be a question for you, or whether it is possible to return to ukraine on

a rendremode to the ukrainian people, as leaders of countries who come to ukraine often do, i think he comes, if on the 23rd , let's think like this, it is for us that, the day of the flag of ukraine, yes, and right after in 12 hours it will be ukraine's independence day, so this is a very good opportunity to congratulate the people, not to make speeches, not to make any political statements, but at least to congratulate ukraine. because he constantly talks about the territorial integrity and sovereignty of this state, and coming that day he thus supports this sovereignty, he is not against this state, well , at least we are supposed to do this, how would we give him the opportunity for at least one and a half or two minutes in if the parliament has such a platform, it would be very good, it depends from the ukrainian leadership. well, definitely not from

me, not from you, from the ukrainian leadership, is it from e protocol, no, well , india cannot say: give me the floor in the parliament, this initiative must be from ukraine, of course, i would very much like this initiative came from ukraine, because it is extreme, yesterday there was such a joke, you know, who will say, or maybe they won't, because there is no translator, they say, there is no translator, there are so many people, the university has already had a faculty for 30 years. department and there is a hindi center that trains specialists, there are many people who are free speak hindi, so if there are no indians who know the language, well, i won’t sit down in front of the translator, so it should be an official translator, but there are ukrainians who can do it, well, i would really like god to give me some sense to our leadership and for it to offer to do this, because that's how you pra... said to offer this is one thing, and the second

is also to understand that from this side, you understand that yes, he makes such a statement, not a statement, congratulations , but because of that, many people understand him, he gains some kind of trust, turning around is very important now, because a lot of damage has been done by russia, and to us, to our country, and that india does not support ukraine, such a lie... you understand, and a lot of people support it, a lot of ours, well we have not gone anywhere, we are sitting here and we want to prove that there is another india. now let me pick up on this, there is another india, but you are talking about another india that supports ukraine, but there is another india that maintains very close ties with russia, there is, there is how close it is, can you say that mr modi well

perhaps independent of russia, but feels some need to be constantly in touch with russia? eh, well, it’s not very fashionable there, in general, our foreign policy department and also a lot of these think tanks, yes, which are think tanks, no no not government organizations, they very much seem to have closed their eyes to all other countries, that is, they are such it's like i... i don't know that russia is a great old historical friend, i don't understand at all what kind of historicity, because their history also began in 1991, no, our history began in 1947, when india became, because it was the entire soviet period, they usurped, and therefore all other republics, which also had a very large influence and contribution, by the way, ukraine has a very large contribution, how many ukrainian scientists worked. how much ukraine has been doing these

developments, you know, there are a lot of space programs, a lot of defense programs, it's all ukrainian scientists, but they simply forgot that in... ukraine is some kind of pro-western state, it is there for nato, all the rhetoric that we are at war with nato, it's very scary, it's a nightmare and so on, and then the second that which is supported by america, you understand that america has abandoned afghanistan, america will soon abandon ukraine, it is constantly such rhetoric, russia today in every home, through cable television, and so are we. you can't understand, it's just necessary to work so hard and can develop, to break it only through human contacts, that is, contacts between people, it needs to be expanded, well, ukraine has not been in a big hurry with this

all these years, and probably now with these agreements and political processes let's really hope that india has opened an embassy now also in the baltic countries. wasn't there, why? i say that you expected that russia is occupying, and there will be no need for an embassy, ​​well, these were jokes, evil jokes, but now an embassy is opening, i think that there is also eastern europe, the poles left a long time ago, you know, they have different languages ​​are studied, indology is so strong there, and ukraine had a foundation, there is the crimean archangel, there are pavlo ritter, there were such giants, and i am very sorry that... here is omelian prytsak, who founded the institute of oriental studies, here such if there were reserves, then it would be possible to make a candy, i'm sorry, we can and maybe, maybe we will make this candy, mrs. mridula, let's still go back to the prime minister, and

considering his arrival, his visit to moscow , he made this statement there that was pretty, pretty good, like ugh. for ukraine, please tell me, could mr. modi become such a driving force, well, i don't know, maybe a locomotive, why doesn't he want to do this, they ask, and lead the countries of the so-called global south in help ukraine against russia? i think he will not dare to do this yet, you understand, he should have come here a long time ago, talked for a long time, had constant contacts, that is... to be such a mediator even between the global south and ukraine, you need to have connections and work more actively. so far, the leader of the global south is limited to statements, very statements , statements about multilateralism of diplomacy, statements about reforms of the global financial

system, or statements about the environment, a lot of strong statements that were made during the g20, you seen from other summits, and even within the framework. the un, within the framework of the un, india has been applying for a seat on the security council for a long time, and is seeking support from the countries of eastern europe, including ukraine. that is why there are many and even in india the problem is still very big, which is a problem for india, it is the rapprochement between russia and china. here, you know, here you have to think very seriously why he went to moscow, not just some people told him and... here and there to his friend no, it was a very serious statement, which was when they got closer, this is putin went, then went to north korea, and it was already very serious, well, such a reaction was very serious, and the second economy of the world, if

it starts helping russia, where will this war be today, so it is necessary to stop china, and it has always been so that they do not... get closer, for it is scary for us, because we have territorial ones, china has, and we have territorial disputes with them, so it is very important for us, and why is there a quad image, well , there is a formation code, there are a lot of negotiations now with japan, there are other states also happens, therefore strategic, in strategically, they are moving away from russia, maybe... maybe it’s rhetoric, maybe we don’t see these people, but one figure: 76% of the defense of the supply complex was russian in 2009, according to the swedish peace research institute, and in 2019 it this

part became 36, well, we have to see how it moves away from, that is, it goes very slowly soon. but on the other hand, now everyone in ukraine, when they talk about india, about indian-russian relations, probably everyone, well at least those people who are interested in international relations, who. watching it read about it, they know how much oil india buys from russia, not even how much it buys, how much more it started buying since the beginning of full-scale torne, that is the question, i have already answered this question more than once, and i will tell you that yes, she bought oil, we dug a little deeper, looked, bought oil lower. group of seven $60 and they even

sold for 45, then why did they do it, because saudi, saudi arabia did not want to lower the price, so you know, if no one buys russian oil does not buy that share, any one share, then someone will buy, maybe? china buys, or someone will buy, and there will be some other imbalances, and it was a clear coordination together with the seven countries, india bought, but paid money for fracking and india resold, because it bought crude oil, processed and clean oil. according to your customs, for 2022, india was the first to supply. of oil and oil products to ukraine, i.e. russian oil already entered ukraine in a processed form,

this is the data of the customs of ukraine, not my data, that's why i don't say for 2023, because there is a very large share of resale, and they make money with it, india makes money, it's just that it's often earned, and it's a very interesting detail, i haven't put this puzzle together yet, because it's not the final dots, no one has put it, there.. periods, a serious investigation is needed because apparently we are being told that we are buying it all with rupees, we are not spending hard currency, so people, please calm down, that we are keeping it all in the bank, that's right, that you bought me something, and you don't give me the money, you say you will keep it with you safes, they will all be, they are yours, but it will lie here, because rupees do not travel, rupees are not convertible into... i mean, wait, let's explain to our viewers, that is, the russians

pay in rupees, no, india pays in rupees, to the russians , india pays the russians in rupees, receiving that oil, and these rupees, but these rupees do not get to the russians, because they simply cannot physically get into the tunas are in our banks, and i know four, this is some kind of theft. well, you mean theft. that deprive us of use these resources for the war, well, in this way, yes, that they can’t buy anything, it’s interesting, because the russians, that is, the russians gave oil, they were paid for this oil, but physical money was such in 23, i tell you, i then she said, they can do something with us. to buy, and they wanted, they wanted to buy weapons, they wanted even those weapons that

they are co-owners of the joint venture where these missiles are made, very modern, even better than those daggers, but ours were not sold, they said it was a civilian product , calculation, you can only civilian goods, because you can't do that, that's why it's financial in the financial world, you know, i think so, ours are more cunning. to return to these groups, then it turns out such a deposit in indian banks in case something happens there in russia, the geopolitical situation changes, right? well , look, i was laughing, then i said, well, then these rupees will go to ukraine for reconstruction, i even dared to say that, but it’s just a joke, no, if i’m serious, there is such a problem, but i know what the group went even today or yesterday to decide. how is it possible to make this calculation at what exchange rate, because now, when

this calculation is made, there is a dollar there, only a mythical dollar, but that is why it is being devalued very seriously, because the ruble is devaluing faster than the rupee, so the received rupees, they are also now reduced volumes, well, if they understand, but when i gave you a certain amount there, and then according to the course it became less, he says, and now you don't... they see that they are not given money, they somehow try these money to say, well, finally give us this money somehow... and minister lavrov traveled four times in the last two years and did not achieve anything, i don't know what the situation is now, it's strange, but you know that, actually speaking, that india has long been part of the brics and within these frameworks, some countries really want, this is a bit of a reform of the financial system, and they are constantly talking about de-dollarization, there is

an interest of a certain elite in this, that de-dollarization, but at the same time india does not... want to be sanctioned , india does not want to lose the connection it has with the united states or the european union, because now it is being discussed, is being developed and discussed, the agreement on free trade with the european union, recently signed by switzerland, norway, liechtenstein and iceland, recently the agreement on the free zone of free free trade, so here are all the points. i think that financiers will take money into account, and they are smarter, they understand where the world market is going, and there they are very much talking about de-dollarization, because the scale of trade between the usa and india is very large, it is many times large. we still have literally 7-8 minutes left, maybe nine, i want

to discuss one more topic with you, after all, it's not even a topic, talk about a country, a country neighboring india, bangladesh, actually it's... a country that is surrounded by india, and for the past few weeks, , months, even there there were very serious events, there were murders, there were protests, there even the prime minister of this country resigned, ran away, is now hiding in india, some even call it a revolution in bangladesh, what is there actually happened. and what is it all if ended, then what ended, it was the maidan, in one word, because the optics show, you know, the shooting of students, the student movement, well, how did it start in kyiv, yes, we only have a small scale, because there is a country of 140 million people, the highest density population, a lot of young people, most under 25 years old, this is a very big reserve,

hasina vazet, the prime minister, she used all the time... the popularity of her father, she was a very authoritarian woman, her party, even they are avamilik, they activists say, auamization, that is, this party is small everywhere, and to be honest, there was also this, you know, a lot of corruption, there was also a lot of disappearances of people, i absolutely see, whether you like it or not, this helicopter, the escape, all this is for me... the army left with the people , but the police shot the students, so far they say at least 300, but according to some estimates, more than a thousand were killed, and i saw terrible footage, i am in constant contact with these activists, i am friends with them, and there are other

people who artists who joined them, teachers also with them. that is, as the situation was here, the scale is just very large there big, and there's still a problem, because there was some chaos, and then, you know, this started, i'm very, very worried, this is the first wave, and how some of the indian media behaved, some of the indian media said that there are hindu krams, there were such shops, they were attacked, there were indeed attacks, there were attacks on individual, there were individual cases, because the indian... minority, the christian minority, there, well, an aggressive crowd of people, and there were also a lot of such elements, you know, who use the moment to discredit this apolitical, student a revolution, a romantic one, i would say, even, it is painful to look at it, and, but it is not such a pure form, any revolution, when

there is blood, then you find a lot of excesses, so all this must be very responsibly the first... these minutes india is behaving very responsibly, you know, it didn't happen, you know, i was very afraid that now something hasina would ask for india to send in troops, thank god, it didn't happen, because we don't need that , and one must realize that there was some anti-indian sentiment in this country, and this is natural, because you know, when hasina will, you know, all the time... do it to be like a protectorate, yes, she did that, but the country has its own independence and must have its own thoughts, ultimately sovereign. actions, she was in china a week before these events, in the end the army already said that there is no more time, we are with

the people, and she gave the police weapons that she had no right to give, there are a lot of such moments, but i silences the fact that the call of the students came from a person who was absolutely not in politics, this is muhammad yunus, the nobel laureate 2006 peace laureate. he is an outstanding person, he went here for another seminar in 2008, and i invited him, and we organized his meeting with students, the diaspora, well, our south asian diaspora at shevchenko university, and he was presented with an order at that time, we did not have time for the honoriscause, because there is a learned council, you know these procedures, he was very happy, he spoke very well about kyiv, and i talked to him about... days, you know, i also have biased ones, i have a subjective attitude towards an economics professor who is just 20 years old dollars was made by such a bank that has

a project in 137 countries, that is, he is an outstanding person, an outstanding economist, and very honestly, although hasina managed to do 190 criminal court cases against him, and there was a lot of jealousy or something, that is, he took on the temporary the government, but it is called chief advisor, that is, not a political title, and he appoints people, now they have people working, there was no police for 7 days, but does he have ambitions, good ambitions, but he does not have them, he does not have it, he is 84 years old, and you understand, he only took up requests students, and he is now, they are putting the country in order, there will be stabilization, now there are a lot of bangladeshi elite, and you see... you see a lot is on youtube, a lot is done by india , our journalists are also very responsible, they make a lot of broadcasts with these people who just saying how to act now yes very

careful not to touch eyes these these things please hasina i believe it was my opinion that she can be given humanitarian asylum india can say no political political actions or political activities from our territory. it won't be possible, then, whatever please leave our country, we will give you this humanitarian woman, but she has something, they donka lives in delhi, who is the regional manager of voz, un, she has a son in america, but america canceled her visa, britain, she gave, appealed for asylum, britain has not yet responded and to mine at the moment i know that countries are not willing to think about what but bangladesh. can she be deported from india? i think they can, or a third country, because she also appealed to the arab countries, who wants to take her, that is, if, you know, she wants, there

such conflicting thoughts, her son announces, then says: no, mother will not return, and then says: no, she will return, she will participate in politics. the fact is that a very funny situation in bangladesh was that two women, we have two minutes to go, two women, this is caledasia, this is... the widow zia uraman and she, this is donkaraman, they said either she or and, and these two clans, now they say that these clans are over, now everything must be new, that is , students, you know, romantics, they do not look at these old political forces, the old elite, and so we will be very, very with such, you know, trembling, i can see what will happen to this country, it will be a litmus test if it is possible to really use this energy. , the citizens of this

country, so that they succeed in everything and that they come to what they fought for, what they came to this square for, they are still doing now, you know, student activists, they are not only scouts, they control traffic and more went, they had joint lunches, joint dinners. different, different religions, representatives of religions, and it's very interesting, mrs. mridul, i thank you very, very much for this, well, rather long conversation, which passed me by in one breath, and i was very interested, i'm sure that the audience was also told about many things, in particular the main one is the visit of the future prime minister of india on a visit to ukraine, what he will do here, maybe he will say something, they talked about indian ukrainian. relationships, in the end, a lot of interesting things, who just saw us already at the very end, please watch this the program must already be on youtube when we post it on youtube, because it's worth watching.

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