they were installed thanks to the donations of ukrainians for the collection of the charity platform dobraya, and the prostheses are for the indomitable. all this time , his wife and children were next to ivan. they , the man says, were and remain his greatest support and support. when asked what he will do first when he stands firmly on his new limbs and returns home, the man answers with a smile. i will go with my family somewhere to relax, go fishing, maybe somewhere uphill. ema stetnyk, roman kovalyuk, espresso tv channel. welcome to espresso, that's it saturday political club, my name is khrystyna yatskiv and i thank everyone who joins us this saturday evening. definitely on your screens up close. as always

, vitaly portnikov will be an analyst, it will be in the second part of our program, the entire first hour, a little less, we will devote to conversations with the most qualified experts, we will talk about the situation on the fronts, about affairs in international politics, and not about the middle east either let's forget, and i'll probably start with the main news items of this week, ukraine acknowledges its presence and its operation in the course. regions and even creates administrations there in order to maintain these territories accordingly. in addition, there are certain successes of the defense forces in the context of enemy logistics and fighting against them, does this mean that it will be extremely difficult for the enemy to knock out our forces from the kursk region and whether we will be able to create a bridgehead there for possible future maneuvers. is aviation already involved in the work in the kursk region, about that... we will only

talk for the next 15 minutes, and i am glad to welcome kostyantyn kryvolap, analyst, aviation expert, we are in touch, congratulations, mr. kryvolap, congratulations, glad to see you, very mutual, we will probably start with, and it will be fair, with russian attacks from the sky on our cities, we see that hot today was in kramatorsk, it is interesting to actually observe the enemy's logic, purely from the military. reasons, they refrained from attacks on this one of the largest cities of the ukrainian donetsk region for some time, do you have any guesses as to why and whether it is generally related to the events in the direction and in the adjacent areas? the russians have two such main tasks: this creating a terrorist impression, and they do this with the help of kn-23 missiles, there from...

the question of where the cabs got, and it doesn't matter if they are dropped on their territory or on ukrainian territory, it doesn't matter, they are dropped, and the second task is a military one , this is an impression, well let’s say by the same iskanders of some serious goals of our goals or our layouts, and not only kramatorsk, today there were two powerful strikes on sumy oblast, directly on sumy, on the villages of sumy oblast, there it was necessary to drop... cabs, that is, it's not the military targets, this, this is all the civilian population, there are no military there, there are no military targets there, but this is a russian terrorist tactic, and if we talk about sums and attacks on sumy oblast, quite interesting things are happening in the region, which is across the border from our sumy oblast things, but obviously that doesn't stop the russians from... that's right along our now more or less

deeper rears, as far as you think, according to your estimates, it would be logical to push back the russian troops with all their installations and possibly aviation, so that in the whole territory our country was more or less safe and comfortable, well, let's say this, let's talk about the width of a possible sanitary zone, well , you see, they also have... m is 500 radius of action, 500 km, now they are pressing these korean missiles, there the radius of action there is 700, 800 km, well, 800 km is almost to st. petersburg, and moscow definitely falls into this sanitary zone, that is, we have no way out of this situation, how to make such a sanitary zone, well, it wants to and it looks like this fantastic and so a little funny to say that. but in reality

the sanitary zone itself must be understood, that we will be fighting for a very long time and they will shoot at us if they have the opportunity, if we can suppress these... these systems with our missiles, or our partners will give us the opportunity, yes, say jason for the f6 from the big range jason ir, which allows you to hit almost there 900 km, then there will be some parity and then there will be, well, this is the situation of israel, its entourage, you hit us, hit us, we responded, you hit, we responded, well maybe such a situation can be, but there are people, let's say... and there is something understand these things, and the russians do not, they, as long as they have something to shoot at, as long as they have something to cause some damage, they will do it, mr. kostyantyn, but

please tell me, our offensive on kurshchyna coincided with well, at least chronologically, with the first statements that ukraine has f-16 at its disposal. er, i would like to quote now the commander of the air force, lieutenant general mykola oleschuk. literally yesterday, he shared a video about the destruction of the important logistical route of the bridge over the seim. and he emphasizes that it is aviation air force participates in hostilities in the kurdish direction. ukrainian pilots hit enemy strongholds, accumulations of equipment, as well as logistics centers and enemy supply routes with high-precision strikes. well, and about enemy logistics, if there is an opportunity and desire, we will talk with you a little later, to what extent is the aviation component from our side present now in the context of the kurdish operation? it is there at all levels, starting from the level of uavs, in fpv of drones,

scout drones that fly, the same the bridge, it wasn’t just dumbed down, you can see there, there are four such perforations, such holes are very neat, it was most likely hit by the harms, that is... and this last one was most likely inflicted by a hamer missile, a french missile, or maybe be, i can, i think, most likely it was a humber, well, according to the damage, according to the degree of damage, maybe 250 kg, maybe a ton, it is generally such, you know, such a weapon that appeared from the fact that the military, when it ended cold war, they so... look at their warehouses, a bunch of bombs, inaccurate, who needs them, a bunch guided missiles that are there for airplanes, what to do with it, they began to think about it and came up with, this is the jidam, this is hammer, this is the russian ompk, this is still

a family, when they took an inaccurate weapon, a bomb or a missile, and attached there is a guidance system, a system that allows him to gain some speed there, or with the help of an airplane, or as in the hamer, this is an additional engine, and it is quite accurate to hit the targets, and the accuracy of these means became 3, 5, 10 m there , and with regard to the missiles there, the same ones there the same was attached to the hydra missiles, the racket is so small, unguided, 70 mm in diameter, but they were attached to it and it became a laser-guided, very accurate missile, which... we work very well, and what concerns the use of aviation , starting with drones, the f-16, as far as i know, does not fly there, but the bellows are working very seriously there, the su-27 is working very seriously, our rotorcraft are working, and there is a full

military operation there, all kinds of troops are involved , and all possibilities are engaged, and air defense is there there is ours and... we also shoot down k-52 helicopters, and we shoot them down with manpads, and we shoot them down with the help of su-34s there, well , most likely it was the patriot, that is, everything is working at full speed there, mr. konstantin, well, and i don't know, half-jokingly, i would still like to have some ideas, in your opinion, ukrainian or russian aviation is still more active in kursk now? sometimes, if you look at the scale of the destruction, where exactly they drop their guided, unguided, or semi-guided bombs and ammunition, then it is genocide against their own people, in fact, you understand, they are still a country of slaves, yes, here, if something happens there in

the central region, the western regions somehow sympathize, somehow worry about it, we are close to each other, we can argue there with... something, we can have something, but we are ukrainians, we are united by this, yes, and it was shown there on 22-24 02/22, yes, it was shown very significantly, but... don't worry, something is happening in the kursk region, in bryansk, in bilhorodsk, they don't care, i assure you that in orlovsk or in tula. in the regions they don't care about all this, they wanted to sneeze on it, and they have their own population, the population of slaves, why do they have it, they somehow change their gene pool there, let's put it this way, and i'm not surprised, then i had such a thing at first, or they will supply a new border. and they will not pay attention to what is going on there, and isolate

the population, isolate all means of information transmission, send their people there, children to boarding houses or to the crimea or to zaporizhzhia, so that this information does not differ about the fact that there was actually or they will climb like fools, and now i come to the conclusion that , most likely, they will climb there like fools, they will destroy with this system of fire shafts, these... kabs, resets, these assaults, if they are someone to storm , if there will be live meat, if they will have enough, although judging there, well, from the number of personnel, then they have such opportunities, but there are absolutely no trained troops there, well, it is difficult to say, i am not a great military expert , i understand something, but i understand more about the questions that is about the air, so it's very hard to say right now. what will happen in the future, mr. konstantin, let's talk about the air and about those areas, let's say

so, the land, without which planes do not take off into the air, about russian airfields, a few words, the voronezh region, baltimore and borisoglebsk, it was these objects that were attacked this week by the defense forces of ukraine, there are other hits, other exercises, in particular in... savasleitsa, this god-forsaken village, if we are talking about the people who live there, about some conveniences for them, but extremely important a military military facility for the russians, where planes are going up that are targeting us, and we 're seeing these attacks become more accurate, these attacks have a very specific target, and that we 're no longer talking about hits once every few weeks, we're talking about ino... several hits actually per day, what could this mean, is the level

of air defense coverage in russia deteriorating, and is our toolkit improving in order to hit these objects, you listed everything, you just answered at once, so what history, we have three main tasks, yes, this is the destruction of the russian air defense system so that we do not interfere with what we do in the air space. what we need to do is the first task, the second task, purely economic, is the destruction of the russian oil and gas complex, these are strikes on refineries, on oil depots, cutting these logistical fuel arteries, and the third very important task, which is precisely related to the problem kabami, with the problem of missile attacks, this is the destruction of aircraft at airfields, this is the most effective means to solve these problems, and... we have such a situation very it’s interesting, you only took this week, and i took it starting from july 20, we had

attacks there, almost every day or every night some airfield, they started there with millerov, then there was morozovsk, there they destroyed the fuel depot, then there flew, there were strikes in the temirin area of ​​moscow, two rotorcraft were destroyed there, then there... saratov province, then there was a simultaneous attack on four, or rather, three strategic three bases of the russian strategic aviation, this is olennaya, this is diaghiliva, this is engens-2, exactly from where the tu-95 ems planes that carry hasto take off the first ones, which were there on december 29 last year , almost 100 pieces were thrown there for us under... a year , yes, and these eyes were hit at the same time, and

olenia, it is 1800 km, yes, if we remember, there before that we hit air defense equipment there, voronezh, voronezh ddm, two stations in vorsk and one in armovil, this is also a very long range, and i will tell you that we now have, well, about 300 companies engaged in what they produce. mainly there are private companies that produce everything for short-range drones, and somewhere around 100 companies that are very powerful are developing, and there are several innovative... platforms, there are several hubs that allow it to live, accelerators that allow it to be done quickly, and we see these results if there, let's say, there, when zelenskyi said that we want to have there next year , a million drones, then everyone said that this is nonsense, it is impossible, we probably already have three, and only half of the year has passed, yes,

that is, it is developing very significantly, and if we look at... impressions on these airfields, it is very difficult to say what happened in the belt sea, because there is nothing yet confirmation, but this is an airfield, where the 47th aviation bomber regiment is located, mainly 134 134, which carry these cabs, so to speak, were stationed there, and the main problem there is that the drones do not fly very fast. and they, the russians, manage to get up during this time, but we are impressed, we are impressed by its technique of exploding the operational part, we are impressed by the fuel, fuel-bridging materials warehouses, etc., we are impressed by this aerodrome structure and create difficulties, and here is such an interesting story about this savaslika, the name is so wonderful, yes it is

phonetically clumsy. i would say so, yes , in russia there is a main aviation hub - it is zhukovsky, all research work is carried out there, tests are carried out there, a crazy hub is there, all the kbs were there except for antonov, uh, and when the plane, the engine already arrived to some level there, when it has already been adopted, it is transferred to lipets-2, where the ministry already has it. defense, trains people, and there in lipetsk 2 is an airfield, and by the way, by the way, we also impressed lipetsk-2 and the warehouses there, we had a very pathetic drink there there are 400 aerial bombs and everything else that has been accumulated there for 100 years at this airfield, and there is the fourth training center for these pilots, it is also called that very seriously there somehow, and its branch is savasliyka,

but it focuses purely on the mig-31 , mig-31 bm interceptors. and those carrying daggers could be 31k, and what is interesting is that we have the first such curiosity, there were 10 blows, it is local, they say, and if you analyze the whole attack in this way, then it began at night, and there is a video when there specifically at night, and then it was obtained already in the light when they arrived rage and so he looked exactly there with the help of machine vision, he recognized the image of exactly the plane he needed, took aim and struck, and it is very visible, very well seen, how it flies up, almost stops and goes into a pike and strikes, but it is not closed there very clearly visible, but i think there were impressions, 1, 2, 3, 4, it doesn't

matter, because the main thing is that it all creates a big... such problems for the pilots, for the technical personnel, for everyone else, and notice it was on the 14th, today we know what the number is and we are all airy attacks, which were previously associated with the takeoff of the mig-31k, and the whole country, the whole country, stopped, blocking the rise, now we are waiting for the implementation of the hall'. unfortunately, there is a ballistic threat from the enemy, but the migs really don’t take off, no, you see, this is the result if we still drive these complexes away, and there will be something to drive them away, it is best to drive them away with the 16th jas zakets, which hit at 90 per 900 km, then there will be no such worries. mr. kostyantyn, thank you for always

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you will have a conversation with vitaly portnikov about the most important events of this week, and while we have the opportunity to talk with respected experts, i am glad to welcome oleksandr khara, a diplomat, to the studio. expert of the center of defense strategies on issues of foreign and security policy. sir oleksandr, glad to see and hear, glory to ukraine. mutually, it's nice to see you, mr. zorizano, kudos to the heroes, let's probably start, and it will be absolutely logical, from the world's reaction to the events in the kursk region, the united states is very careful in its rhetorical figures when talking about, its awareness of , what happened, how it was prepared and so on, but, but, joseph biden, the american president, answering questions from journalists. stated the other day that ukraine's operation in the kursk region created a real dilemma for the russian president, vladimir putin. how would you decipher

joseph biden's understanding of the situation, and is there really a dilemma for putin, because in essence, given the peculiarities of the russian constitution, for them, kherson and the kursk region are one and the same, that is, in essence, the russians have long been ... are in a situation where ukraine occupied their territories, i take all this now in quotation marks, well, i would say take it under control, because we are not going to, we are not russians, we do not claim russian territories, we are not going to take them to annex, therefore it is not an invasion, it is not an occupation, i would say taking control, when they use such a term as creating dilemmas, it is of course from international relations, and from the theory of conflict, it is meant that... someone has several choices, at least two that are not very good and must be chosen with the least losses, and what did mr.

biden mean? we don't know, but we can see what dilemmas our control over a part of russian territory has created. the first is that in order to protect its territory, putin needs forces and means, and he has the option of pulling them away from the eastern direction, where, unfortunately, the russians are slowly advancing, they have some tactical successes there, and we do not see them in a hurry to transfer forces and means from there, something happened , but no... not to the extent that we would like, of course, that they are now trying to cross the border and recruit, that is, from other regions of the russian federation, they are immediately thrown into battle, in fact, there was information that even conscripts are being used, that is, everything that is under the hand of vilni, they do and throw at us, it is very interesting, by the way, that many experts in the west and the mass

media said that the russians were preparing something big, well, that is, an expansion of the invasion and some big operation, and that is why they accumulated large reserves, we did not see these reserves, that is, it actually turned out to be an informational psychological operation against us and against our western partners, this is a military, political moment: if he does not have enough people, despite the million-strong army, then he it will be necessary to do something with the mobilization, whether hidden, when the time comes... from 400 to 2 million are given to these killers, is it necessary to announce a general mobilization, if general it means, on the one hand, a blow to prestige, a blow to political support from the russian side pleps, because it's not just the marginals and the ethnic minorities who are going to fight, but it will be necessary to take from st. petersburg from moscow, and of course that

social tension will be from... then it's a question of what the head literally seems to have done the week before last of the central bank of russia federation spoke about the state of the russian economy, there was quite a, you know, black picture, not as black as we would like, that they are on the brink of disaster, but still, and one of the key, one of the key points, it was lack of labor force, that is, we now have someone... to equip and throw and fight against us, then it will be necessary to take from the factories, whether it is the defense industry factories, or whether they are factories of the civilian sector, that is, the industry, but this will mean an even greater burden on the russian economy, which not in the best condition, despite bravura statements that gdp growth is there faster than in germany or some other countries, that is why there are dilemmas, and of course the territorial one, which you said is now

a formula, let's... record the situation or realities on the ground, it will certainly not be used by the russian federation, since will mean the loss of the legitimate, legal, as we also recognize, the territory of the russian federation, so they will look for some, some other forms, and of course, that there is a political success in our operation, i do not know how the military component will end, but the first and most importantly, we broke this false stereotype. the stereotype that we, this war is in a corner, that is, we have shown that we are able to take, accumulate forces, and carry out this military operation on the territory of the russian federation quite professionally and beautifully. and in fact, we did it with one hand behind our back, which is held by the same united states, because we don't have, well, let's say, good to attract. all kinds

of weapons, in particular from the united states, precisely in this kursk operation, because we are talking about sovereign russian territory, and some countries, some countries are already moving away from this so-called red line, in germany they say that from the moment german tanks arrived in ukraine, they became actually ukrainian tanks, let them use them as they want, canada gave the go-ahead for the use of its... weapons, weapons that are manufactured there, on the territory of the kurt region, but joseph biden and his administration are so far inclined in every way to a similar decision and a similar permission for ukraine, in particular the delegation, the bipartisan delegation of the united states, which this week visited the ukrainian capital. so, do you really think we are approaching

a point where there will be no more taboos? and when we are gone from the united states.