thank you, mr. vitaly, as always, vitaly portnikov and the saturday political club on saturday evening for viewers and listeners of espresso. i remind you that you should stay with us, and on august 24, espresso is preparing a special project light people in dark times. there will be exclusive interviews with prominent ukrainians for you. don't miss it, we will work for you. mr. vitaly, thank you for always brilliant analytics. thank you krystyna for this conversation. all right, goodbye. it is close to politics, close to the world, maria gurska, journalist of the ukrainian tv channel espresso and the eu sister portal, and pavel koval, chairman of the council for cooperation with ukraine, chairman of the committee on foreign affairs of the polish sejm, i congratulate you. as

always, we analyze the main world events of the week. the most discussed news of these days is happening in two different corners of the world, in the usa, where the presidential campaign is ongoing, and in the kursk region on the border territories of russia, where the offensive of the ukrainian army is ongoing. let's start with russia, what do you think is the purpose and consequences of the unexpected operation of the ukrainian army in kurshchyna? on this topic actually for now small. cannot mean the return of the territory of ukraine to russia, so the atmosphere of the assembly seems to be preparing for some kind of negotiations, right?

what does it mean in this case? and from a legal point of view, everything is okay, but what does all this mean from a tactical point of view, it depends on whether the armed forces of ukraine will succeed in obtaining the occupied territories, so stop fighting, if so, then this will no longer be an ordinary raid, a real territorial gain. if you analyze this in the context of future peace talks, this achievement will help a lot, because a peace treaty based on this probably not, but there will be a ceasefire, because the russians have to admit that they are

exchanging territories for other territories, so tactically it can be very beneficial for ukraine. is it risky now? yes, it is very risky, but i am convinced that the ukrainian authorities had no choice. after another year of war, they had to decide on a step that involves great risk, but also opens up great opportunities. there is a lot of risk in itself, but also a lot of chances. i think this is an incredibly important operation from a point of view strengthening of the national spirit. but also for informational influence in the world. everyone sees the video from the chicken coop, recorded by local residents. ukrainian flags fly in russian cities, and the ukrainian military advises russians to learn the ukrainian national anthem and prepare for the referendum. the russians themselves say that if the russian army is not able to protect them, then the ukrainian army can, there was even a meme that in the third year of the war, the russian army became the second in russia, one by one, miniage, whatever.

it can be assumed that we return to at the moment of the close attempt to remove putin, it is worth looking at the incompetence of russia, there is a happy and blessed incompetence in kursk, because we are happy about these events. plus , this situation is happening against the background of the exchange of a number of russian opposition politicians, as if someone from...

putin's entourage calculated various scenarios. in russia, this is always the case, it is not always obvious. they always play multiple pianos, and it's hard to interpret, but one possible interpretation, i think, is... really, this year of war without putin would have ended well. there is a lot to trade when talking about territories, because you can exchange something for something, there is a new part of the political elite in russia, which, although it sounds a bit like putin, when it comes to generalities.

in your opinion, did the main partners of ukraine know about the planned operation of the armed forces of ukraine and how is it evaluated in europe and the usa? beloved, all the secrets are sung on the rooftops this is a bit like a biblical phrase my sparrow, so today it seems that there are no real secrets, at the same time i think that the political leaders were not immersed in the details, because the moment of surprise was present, but for me it was important that the event take a legal position on this matter. and the legal position is important, because i may have such feelings, but we will do so now, gentlemen. it may seem to you, and you rejoice, that the ukrainians have finally entered the territory of russia, the main element here is revenge. it seems to me that the most important thing here is a general understanding of the legality of ukraine's actions in accordance with international law and that its

adequate and appropriate response in this way is completely legal. i think it is important. and saw how this position is enough western commentators of the eu and the us quickly took over. we are now at this stage, and we will see what happens next. how and, how and stand and eat standie rze. and see further. but sir, it's the revenge of the ukrainian troops. you know, i am happy for the revenge of the ukrainian troops in the kursk region, but i look at it more deeply and share the opinion of my colleague vitaly portnikov, who says that at the moment it is the actions of the ukrainian army and in... strikes on the territory deep in russia that can ensure the effect of ukraine's victory and lead to this victory. in your opinion, why until today the partners have not given ukraine permission to hit russia with western weapons. we hear

how great britain said these days that it does not allow the use of storm shadow missiles in kurtshchyna during the offensive of the ukrainian army. what do you think about it? ukrainian army? how is that... this means that the west's thinking in the categories of the next red lines has a different pace than in ukraine. this is true, and at the same time, the introduction of ukrainian troops into russian territory 2-3 years ago would have been subject to much wider criticism and attacks. should we expect changes in the near future?

change? we expect changes and we can accelerate them with political pressure, showing that only decisive and unequivocal... with regard to russia make sense without hesitation, without hesitation. in the second week of the ukrainian offensive in the kursk region, russian president putin announced that peace negotiations with ukraine were now impossible. how do you assess these statements, are they part of a political game? it simply means that putin did not want peace talks because he imagined that peace talks would be based on the fact of his territorial superiority, but i don't even want to comment on that because i don't for a minute no...

i think that after everything that has happened to him , it is impossible to negotiate, his entourage will look for a solution so that negotiations can begin even in the current great russian tone, unfortunately, but without putin. i think they are looking for such a solution now. how do you see the time prospects of such a development ? and the prospect juzh kilka razy was close, pojte. this prospect has already been close several times, the prygozhne rebellion was the first rehearsal, an attempt to understand whether the time has come for a reshuffle, a reshuffling in the kremlin. it ended in a complete mess, but for a moment it seemed possible, and i like the comparison with pope gapon from russian history in 1905, he was at the same time the leader of the revolt. roku, which was simultaneously przywódcą rewolucji. in order to correctly understand the actions of russia, you need to know that in them you never

know what is a conspiracy, and what is an element of authenticity, some need for change, and what is an element, i think that in many political actions in the russian system, these two elements are intertwined in such a way that it is impossible to separate them at all, it is always necessary to remember that several things are happening right before our eyes, and here i think there have already been two such approaches, maybe this is the third. an attempt to insert navalny into politics. navalny definitely returned to russia because he believed he had some support in the kremlin. i completely reject the theory that navalny was crazy, because some people say, well , a man who decided to come from germany because he loved russia so much, he was definitely a patriot, but he was also definitely involved in some possible change, at least in his imagination authorities and i think that it didn't work out with prigozheny, it didn't work out with navalny and...

in the us, we see very quick plot twists, it's hard to say how things will turn out, because we're recording this program, and in a few hours it may turn out, that by the time of eru the reality will already be different, although i remember people telling me since the beginning of the year that biden would 100% resign, at the time it seemed absolutely ridiculous to me, i remember how a few months ago i went to washington and everyone said that garis is meaningless, and everyone...

the situation is the same as it was with biden. the problems, as far as i remember, are in arizona and nevada, which are probably more positive for trump, but four or five key states, including pennsylvania, wisconsin, minnesota, north carolina, i think tend to support garry, i remember w arizona iw newadzie, tam raczej chyba jest raczej na plus dla. georgia, still under trump, but most of what's going on in these sleazy states is reminiscent of what happened four years ago, so... on a whim, we'd bet harris would probably come out on top.

if you compare the situation four years ago and the situation now, harris' advantage is not yet as large as biden's advantage over trump in these few key states, but it is already there, and the trend is positive for harris, who has a very good running mate, that is, a vice presidential candidate . raningma, vice president. that candidate for vice president. let us remind you that this is the governor of minnesota, tim walsh. and that is important.

everywhere, it's part of the american political tradition, so it's not just a trump problem, we fear trump for different reasons, he has there are also pros and cons, i like to build a pragmatic approach, because looking back at the times of the trump administration, you can say that, for example, unpredictability can be an advantage, that is, you... sydorenko, who writes for ukrainian pravda about how things have changed trump's rhetoric a month after the assassination attempt. in one of his first speeches after the attack, he declared that he would unite, not divide, the united states. and it sounded like some new stage in the campaign. now, with vice president jaydy vance, trump is running a campaign that surprises the world and lowers theirs ratings because they attack entire

social groups. it is worth mentioning at least the last saying about kamala garis, that an unmarried woman with but it was also in pennsylvania, oh pennsylvania, that's how trump sounded after the attack in pennsylvania, and we already talked about this state and its huge importance on the map. there are a lot of voters out there now and everyone is trying to get votes in pennsylvania. trump felt very strong after the attack and called for unity. today, if he leans toward radical divisions, it's because he is feels unprotected, he does not feel like a favorite. at the end of the day, it's just math. and

trump miscalculates and makes mistakes. politics, you got me into it, and i totally understand what they're doing, because you've noticed that voters are moving away from them, especially in key states, dudes, or those states in vlashn, the fundamental problem is the rust belt, so states like ohio , minnesota and michigan, and trump actually thought he had the win in his pocket as he fielded jd vance, but garris fought back very well in

this challenge, her partner is a person who has made a great contribution to the fight against poverty, with her. it is also a signal to these people from the rust belt, and suddenly it turns out that they are no longer on trump's side. so what does trump do? why does it behave like this? but simply because he has to mobilize his voters to not pass him by, and he uses very radical, divisive language to mobilize the nuclear electorate. if he was confident, we would hear now, we all love now. usa and says that undeclared work is work that performed by blacks, sounds ambiguous, to put it mildly. he's trying to play roles he's not good at, but i

see his green talk as a mask, a mistake , or a great but missed opportunity. musk, who is the owner. a tweeter, that is, who had previously clearly stated that he would not engage in politics, suddenly stepped into politics by his own bootstraps and created a program on the media that he owns. he did a trump conversation, but trump looked more like a grandfather on this show, and it's not some new release, although the performance was supposed to be tactical. if you analyze this campaign more deeply at the end of the holidays, it should have been like a revelation. trump and his political mistakes in the campaign, but first of all, it is important for us how the candidate for the presidency of the usa sounds in relation to eastern europe, in relation to ukraine. for example, what he said about ukraine in the same interview with elon musk. everything that donald trump said

only confirms that he has not changed his approach to the topic at all. he continues to think that... he can come to an agreement with putin? still with putin? however, i will offer this base pragmatically prospects but i will offer a very pragmatic perspective. i did not listen to this conversation with musk, but i analyzed several speeches of trump, including fragments about ukraine, which often appears in his speeches. he used this rhetoric to attack biden, but in reality, trump says such general things about ukraine that you can build anything on it. well, the only thing that will really upset some people. he pojte my mamy po prostu kojije zalogenie, co on ma na myśli. you see, we just have certain assumptions about what he means because we we assume that he wants to come to an agreement with putin, but without breaking his word he can, i don't know, issue an ultimatum to putin, that's how he talks. i'm not

saying that he will do it, so that you understand me well, but trump's statements are so general that at some point, listening to his speeches, i got the impression that he often says everything well from a formal and theatrical point of view, but the content allegedly prepared by artificial intelligence, and what he says about ukraine can be substituted for that. any history, so he doesn't have one will have problems changing his statements, his politics are primarily characterized by unpredictability, and this is both a plus and a minus, when i listen, i don't see a tragedy, but when jaydy vance goes into detail, when he talks about ukraine, it sounds dangerous , however, what trump says is so general that it can be a little us. this thesis of mine is more pessimistic if, for example, in the harris camp, i am familiar with the politicians. who are engaged in the security of garis and i have a very good opinion about them: in the us, isolationist pressure will be everywhere, it doesn't matter if one wins and the other loses, we can't bet

on just one, as some are trying to do, is congress. and any issue needs to be well lobbied, both in the house of representatives and in the senate, if one is looking for recipes for good us policy based on the national interest and not just curiosity, there is no better recipe than this. already the work remains the same, so the work remains the same, some people eat chips and are just interested in politics, are fascinated by political life in the usa, those who thinks about business and serious politics,

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the reconstruction of the country is proceeding and we speak so that all who need it know about their rights, who have opportunities related to reconstruction works, and also such in this way, we want to improve the recovery process in different parts of our country. today we are talking about the lviv region, the guests of our program will be the lawyer of the anti-corruption center mezh vladyslav rudyk and the spokesperson of the service for restoration and development of infrastructure in lviv. oblast ivan bondar, but before we proceed to the conversation with our guests, i suggest you, our dear viewers, to watch the story about how the reconstruction of residential buildings in lviv, which were damaged by russian rockets, is going on. lviv, stryyska street 66. mrs. lidzia shows her apartment, or rather the walls, which have been restored. this was lydia dudka's home until july 6, 2023,

when the terrorist country russia launched the largest missile attack on lviv. over the course of a year of repair work , the roof was covered in this building and three others nearby, the floors were rebuilt, windows and doors were installed, and all communications were carried out. by the end of 2024, it is planned to repair the facades here. according to mayor andrii sadovoy, uah 39 million was allocated from the lviv budget for these works. another 39 million in... were allocated to residents for repairs in apartments, apartments had different levels of destruction, and of course, the amounts allocated are quite large, but the time that has passed, if the inflation index ate the amount that it would have in the first

year, let's say. ago, the purchase price was higher than today. during the year , the owners received the first compensations, from uah 200,000 to uah 1,900, depending on the damage and the area of ​​the apartment. on july 6, we were given money for repairs and reconstruction of apartments, i received 970,000, i have a two-room apartment. 46 m2, well, but we were told if we will hire a repair company, then this money will go to their salaries, and so what else should be done on their own, after the craftsmen patch up the holes left after the installation of the sewer pipes, mrs. lidia has to dismantle the old wooden floor, pour the screed, electrical grid

inside the apartment, and yes... to do a number of repairs, all this with compensation funds, the fact that equipment and furniture will have to be bought with own funds, says ms. lidia, she already understood, she and her son have been living in modular town in strysky park, where the affected families were partially resettled. it is quite comfortable here, there is furniture, a table, beds, there is a place to put things, there is hot water in separate toilets, a shower, a kitchen, there is an electric stove in the kitchen that does not work because there is no electricity, the refrigerator is the same, but when there is electricity, then you can prepare something there, for those who did not want to live in a modular town, compensation for housing rent is provided from the city budget, 8, 10 or 12 00 hryvnias, - says andriy sadovy. in general.