it wants and it looks fantastic and it 's a little funny to say that, but in reality the sanitary zone itself must be understood that we will fight for a very long time and they will shoot at us if they have such an opportunity, if we can suppress these systems with our missiles, or our partners will give us such an opportunity, yes, let's say jason for f-16 with a long range jason and pr, which allows to strike. almost 900 km there, then there will be some parity and then there will be, well, you know, the situation, israel and its entourage, you hit us, hit us, we they answered, you hit, we answered, well , such a situation could be, but there are people, let's say, there in the east, it's a delicate matter, and there they understand something about these things, and the russians don't understand, they, as long as they have something to shoot at.

as long as they have something to do some harm, they will do it. mr. kostyantyn, could you please tell me that our offensive in kurshchyna coincided with, at least chronologically, the first statements that ukraine had f-16s at its disposal. i would like to quote now the commander of the air force, lieutenant general mykola oleschuk. he just yesterday he posted a video about... the destruction of an important logistical route of the bridge over the seim, and emphasized that it is the air force aviation that takes part in combat operations in the direction of kursk, ukrainian pilots hit enemy strongholds, accumulations of equipment with high-precision strikes, as well as logistic centers and supply routes of the enemy, and about enemy logistics, if there is an opportunity and desire, we will talk with you a little later, to what extent is the aviation component from our side present now in the context of the kurdish operation? he is there for everyone

levels, starting with the level of uavs, fpv drones, reconnaissance drones that fly, this same bridge, it was not just dumbed down, there you see, there are four such perforations, such holes are very neat, these were most likely harms, that is, hymers, and this last one was most likely inflicted by a missile, a hammer, a french missile, or maybe, maybe a long time ago, i think, more likely than... everything, it was a humber, well , according to the degree of damage, maybe 250 kg, maybe a ton, it's generally such a, you know, such a weapon, which appeared er from what the military, when the cold war ended, they look at their warehouses like this, a bunch of bombs, inaccurate, who needs them, a bunch of unguided rockets that are there for airplanes, what to do with it, so they began to think about it ... and came up with , this is jidam, this

is hammer, this is the russian ompk, this is still a family, when they took an inaccurate weapon, a bomb or a missile, and installed a guidance system there, a system that allows it to gain some speed there, or with the help of an airplane, or whatever in as in hamer, it an additional engine, and it is quite accurate to hit the targets and the accuracy of these means has become. there 3 5 10 m, and as for the missiles there, the same ones were attached to the hydra missiles, the same was attached to the hydra missiles, the racket is so small, unguided 70 mm in diameter, but they were attached to it and it became such a very accurate missile with laser guidance, which we we are working very well, and what concerns the kurshian applications of aviation, starting with drones, in f16, as far as i know, they do not fly there, but...

bellows work there very seriously, very seriously su-27s are working, our rotorcraft are working, and there is a full military operation there, all types of troops are involved and all capabilities are involved, and our air defense is there and so on, and we also shoot down k-52 helicopters, and we shoot them down with manpads, and we shoot down the 34th su with the help of there, well, most likely it was petriy. that is, everything is working at full speed there. mr. kostyantyn, i don't know, half-jokingly, i would still like to have some idea. in your opinion, ukrainian or russian aviation still operates more over the kursk region? because sometimes, how you look the scale of destruction, where exactly they drop their guided, unguided or semi-guided bombs and ammunition, well, this is genocide against their own people. in fact, you

understand, they are like that, this is a country of slaves, yes, here, if something happens there in the central district, the western districts, somehow they sympathize, somehow worry about it. this, we are to each other, we have there, we can argue something, we can have something, but we are ukrainians, we are united by this, yes, and it was shown there on 22, 24.02.22, yes, it was shown very significantly , and they are slaves, and here's something in there in the kursk region, it is happening there, in bryansk, in bilhorodsk, they don't care there, i assure you that in the oryol or tula regions, they don't care about all this. they wanted to sneeze at it, and they eat their own population, the population of slaves, why do they eat it, they somehow change their gene pool in this way, let’s say so, and i’m not surprised, i had this at first, or they will set a new border and won’t be

pay attention to the fact that they are killing and isolating the population there, isolating all means of information transmission, sending their people there, children in boarding houses. either to the crimea or to zaporizhzhia, so that this information does not differ about what actually happened there, or they will go there like fools, and now i come to the conclusion that most likely they will go there like fools, will to destroy with this system of fire shafts, with these kabs, resets, with these assaults, if there is someone to storm, if there is live meat, if they have enough, although, judging by the number of personnel there. well, they have such opportunities, but they are not there at all prepared troops, it's hard to say there, i'm not a great military expert, i understand something, but i understand more about issues related to the air there, so it's very difficult

to say now what will happen there in the future, mr. konstantin, let's talk about the air and those areas , let's say so, the lands without which planes do not take off about russian aerodromes... a few words: voronezh region, baltimore and borysoglebsk, these objects were attacked this week by the defense forces of ukraine, there are other hits, other exercises , in particular by savasleytsi, this is a village forgotten by god, if we are talking about the people who live there, about some conveniences for them, but it is an extremely important military military object for russia. where the planes are taking off that are firing at us, and we are seeing that these attacks are becoming more accurate, these attacks have a very specific target, and that we are no longer talking about hits once every few weeks, we are talking about sometimes several hits

actually in a day, that it could mean whether russia's air defense coverage is deteriorating and... or improving our toolkit for striking these objects? you listed everything, you just answered right away, so what's the story here? we have three main tasks, right? this is the destruction of the russian air force in order not to prevent us from doing what we need to do in the airspace, this is the first task, the second task is purely economic, this is the destruction of the russian oil and gas complex, this is strikes on refineries, on oil depots, cutting these logistical fuel lines arteries, and the third very important task, which is related precisely to the problem of the kabama, to the problem of missile attacks, this is the destruction of airplanes at the airfields, this is the most effective way to solve these problems, and we have such a very interesting situation,

you took only this week, and i took another starting from july 20, we had attacks there almost every day, or every at night airfield, they started there with millerov, then there was morozovsk, they destroyed the fuel depot there, then they flew there, there were strikes in tamirin moscow region, two rotorcraft were destroyed there, then there korzhi , saratov province, then it was simultaneously hit by four, or rather, three strategic three bases strategic aviation in russian, this is olennaya, this is dyageneva, this is engens-2, exactly where the tu-95 emsy planes take off, which carry the kha-101, which were there on december 29 last year

, almost 100 of them were dropped there for the new year, yes, and these at the same time there were impressions, and olenia is 1800 km, yes, if we remember there before these. there were impressive air defense equipment, voronezh, voronezh dam, two vorskaya stations, one in armovir, this is also a very long range, and i... i will say that we now have about 300 companies engaged in what they produce, mainly private companies there , that make everything for short-range drones, and somewhere around 100 companies that are growing very strongly, and there are several innovation platforms, there are several hubs that allow for life, accelerators that allow for rapid development, and we see these results, if there, let's say, when... zelenskyi said that we want to have a million drones there next year, then everyone

said that it's nonsense, it's impossible, we probably already have three, and only half of the year has passed, yes, that is it develops very significantly, and if we look at impressions of these airfields, so what happened in the belt sea, it's very difficult to say there, because there is no confirmation yet, but it's an airfield that uh... 47th aviation bomb bomber regiment, there are mainly su-34 su-34s that carry these cabs, so to speak, were placed, and the main problem there is that the drones do not fly very fast, and they russians manage to get up in this time, but we are impressed, impressed by the equipment, operational part, express pa... warehouses fuel and lubricants, etc., we hit this airfield structure and create

difficulties, but there is such a special and interesting story about this savasliyka, the name is so wonderful, yes , it is phonetically clumsy, i would say so, yes, in russia there is a main aviation hub, it is zhukovsky, all research work is carried out there, tests are carried out there the craziest hub, all the kbs were there except for antonov, er, and when the plane, the engine had already reached a certain level, when it was already adopted, it was transferred to lipets-2, where the ministry of defense already tested it , teaches people, and there in lipetsk 2, this airfield, and by the way, to things, we also hit lipetsk-2 and the warehouses there were drinking very pathetically, there were 400 aerial bombs and everything else that was there for. 100 years of capuchinism at this airfield, and there is the fourth training center for these pilots, it

is somehow also called very seriously there, its branch is a samasleika, but it focuses purely on the mig-31, mig-31 bm interceptors and these mig dagger carriers - 31 k. and it's interesting that we have the first such curiosity, it was 10 shots. this is what the locals say, and if you analyze the whole attack like this, then it started at night, and there is a video when there specifically at night, and then i hunted already in the daylight, when the furies flew in, he looked so closely, as if there with the help of machine vision he recognized the image of exactly the plane he needed, took aim and hit, and this is very visible, very much. you can clearly see how it flies up, almost stops and goes into pique and hits, but it is closed there, it is not very

visible, but i think that there were impressions there. 1, 2, 3, 4, it doesn't matter, because the main thing is that it all creates big problems for pilots, for aviation, for technical personnel, for everyone else, and ee pay attention, it was on the 14th, today we have... consciously what number, and we have all the air attacks that were previously associated with the take-off of the 31st and the whole country, the whole the country was getting there, now we are waiting for the implementation of the hall, unfortunately, the ballistic threat from the enemy, but the migs really do not take off, no, you understand, this is the result if we still drive away these complexities. and there will be something to drive them away, it is best to drive them away with f-16s with jasm missiles,

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the reaction of the world to the events in the kursk region, united states. very careful in their rhetorical figures when they talk about their awareness of what happened, how it was prepared and so on, but, but joseph biden, the american president, answering to journalists' questions the other day, he said that ukraine's operation in the kursk region created a real dilemma for the president of russia, vladimir putin, how would you decipher joseph biden's understanding of the situation. and is this really a dilemma for putin, because in essence, taking into account the peculiarities of the russian constitution, for them, kherson and the kurdish region are the same thing, that is, in essence , the russians have long been in a situation where ukraine occupied their territories, i take all this in quotes now, well, i would say i would take it

under control, because we are not going to, we are not russians, we do not claim russian territories. we are not going to annex them, so it is not an invasion, it is not an occupation, i would say taking control, when such a term as creating dilemmas is used, then of course it is from international relations and from the theory of conflict, it is meant that before someone there are several elections, at least two, which are not very good, and we have to choose with the least losses, what mr. baden meant, we don't... know, but we can see what our dilemmas are, our control over part of the russian territories created. the first is that in order to protect his territory, putin needs forces and means. and he has the option of pulling them away from the eastern direction, where, unfortunately, the russians are slowly advancing, they have certain tactical successes there, and we do not see

that they are in a hurry to transfer forces and means from there, something has happened, but not on as much as we would like. of course, they are now trying to scratch and recruit, which means from other regions of the russian federation, they immediately quit. there were actually fights there was information that even conscripts were being used, i.e. everything that vilni had at hand, they were doing and throwing at us. it is very interesting, by the way, that many experts in the west and mass media said that the russians are preparing something big, that is, an expansion of the invasion and some kind of big operation, and that is why they have accumulated large reserves, we did not see these reserves, that is it turned out to be actually informative. a psychological operation against us and against our western partners, this is a military, political moment, if it lacks people, despite the million-strong army, then he

will need to do something with the mobilization, whether it is hidden, when 400 to 2 million are counted, they give these murderers a raise, or is it necessary to announce a general mobilization, if general it means, on the one hand, a blow to the prestige of... a blow to political support from the russian populace, because it is not just the marginals from ethnic minorities who are going to fight, someone will have to fight, but st. petersburg will have to take it from moscow, and of course that social tension will increase, then it is a question of what literally it seems the week before last, the head of the central bank of the russian federation talked about the state of the russian economy, then... there was such a, you know, black picture, not as black as we would like, that they are on the verge of disaster, but still, and one of

the key , one of the key points, it was a lack of manpower, that is, in order to now equip someone and throw and fight against us, then it will be necessary to take from the factories, whether it is the defense industry factories, whether it is the factories of the civilian industry, but this will mean even more... impact on the russian economy, which not in the best condition, despite bravura statements that gdp growth there is faster than in germany or some other countries, so there are dilemmas, and of course the territorial one, which you said is now a formula, let's record the situation or realities on the ground , it will certainly not be used by the russian federation, as it will mean the loss of legitimate, legal, such as we also... the territory of the russian federation, so they will look for some, some other forms. well , of course, there is a political success in our operation, i don't know how the war will end

component, but first and most importantly, we broke this stereotype, the false stereotype that we, this war is at a dead end, that is, we showed that we are able to take, accumulate strength, and do it quite professionally and beautifully. this military operation on the territory of the russian federation, and in fact we did it with one hand behind our back, which is supported by the same united states, because we do not have, well, let's say this, good for attracting all kinds of weapons, in particular from the united states, precisely in this course operation, because we are talking about sovereign russian territory, and some countries, some countries. are already moving away from this so-called red line, in germany they say that from the moment german tanks arrived in ukraine, they became

actually ukrainian tanks, let them use them as they want, canada gave the go-ahead for the use of its weapons, weapons that are manufactured there, on the territory of the kurdish region, but joseph biden and his administration are still in every way inclined to such a decision and similar permission. for ukraine, in particular, the delegation is bipartisan the delegation of the united states, which visited the ukrainian capital this week. so do you really think we're getting to a point where there will be no taboos and no reservations from the united states about the use of weapons? of course, i would like to hope, because this is a ridiculous restriction, it is firstly, secondly, well... in fact, these two years have shown the failure of the strategy in relation to russia, to ukraine, to this administration, and there is, well, you know, yes it is certain that after a certain time we will find out

whether the americans knew or developed together with them this operation, i have doubts about it, although the advisor of the president's office podalyak said that the americans were aware. in support of his words, perhaps it can be cited that bucin and the ukrainians destroyed several bridges in the kurt region, using american missiles, if so, does this mean that they are aware, or they were forced to help in ... ukraine with the destruction strategically important bridges on the territory of the russian federation. if the americans did not know, it was a surprise for them, well, as a surprise, surely their intelligence understood, that the forces and means of ukraine are accumulating on the border with the russian federation, we are planning something there, but they probably did not know the essence of what was going to happen. and of course, they shouldn't have shown themselves as not in control of the situation, which is exactly why they, well,

actually support it. this administration is already finishing its work, and maybe if there was an agreement with the americans about our actions and if we were given permission to hit the kurdish bridges, it means that more and more are taking control of themselves, at least the strategy for in relation to russia and ukraine, the team of camila harris, there is such a phil gordon, a person who is very knowledgeable. of european affairs, maybe he wants to show before the election day that kadmila garis is capable of not just continuing the same strategy, well, as i said, it is already a failure, absolutely obvious, but to do something else, and of course, which is there is also pressure, including due to the elections in the united states, but you just showed lynsey graham, one of the leading republicans, who said, well, we have to kick

the ass of the russians, which ... until today at the moment, only about 20% of the amount allocated by the congress for security assistance to ukraine was used, and in fact, all of this ends at the end of september. and then it will be necessary to do certain additional bureaucratic measures in order to unlock this aid, so far we do not see that the americans are in a hurry, or rather this administration, well, the republicans usually use it as a form of pressure on this administration and criticism, so i hope what they will change, they will realize their mistakes, they will change their approach, at least before the elections and then, of course, with the new administration, we will see how to

form a strategy... the powers of ukraine, by the way, which was also a condition for voting for a large aid package in 61 billion, the administration had to provide a strategy for the victory of ukraine and where the goals of the united states regarding ukraine and russia would be highlighted. mr. oleksandr, i don't know if you followed, but interesting theses were heard in donald trump's interview with elon musk. wow yes, i really don't believe to the end that i'm saying this and that we're even behind this... but it happened, and one of the most interesting points is that donald trump said that he told putin not to invade ukraine, how do you generally assess, this is the image move of the former american president and presidential candidate again from the republican party, to go to this interview, and in principle to say quite bright, extraordinary, always

things there, well, first of all, there was a comment by john boldon, who was national security advisor to president trump, he said that there was no such conversation when he was the head of the department, and he is not aware from other sources that trump ever said something like that to putin, so it's more likely that, you know, how we have gpt chat, this artificial intelligence that sometimes hallucinates and gives very strange answers. to the person, i think it was just, let's say, trump-style, he's living this fantasy, about elon musk and his platform, it's also an interesting separate topic because by and large this person bought twitter, a hugely popular western platform, not in order to do money, in fact, in order to contribute to the promotion of the political agenda and in particular the coming to power of donald trump, or

it was not known before. donald trump will withstand the pressure.