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in the russian federation, first of all i would like to ask you about new news and new trends related to the exchange and return to ukraine. defenders of azovstal. thank you. for now , we are satisfied that indeed the exchange fund has been replenished, and we already have a more stable position on this matter, we can communicate with the negotiating team, and of course, first of all, you. the return of those boys and girls who are really now on the verge of life and death, first of all, of course, these are azovians, and it is difficult wounded, these are the boys and girls who

are bullied the most, mostly ukrainian nationalists, or boys and girls who have patriotic tattoos. and all of them are treated inappropriately, this is putting it very mildly, of course, that such a trend is not new for the russian state and russians as a whole, and ukrainian nationalists, dissidents, political prisoners were also abused in the gulag, and nothing has changed at the moment, we, as always, have such er... cruel treatment precisely for our ukrainian identity, simply for what we defend one's state, one's nation, one's people, and in fact this is a question of exchange, it already has

a more humanitarian character, because it is precisely these categories that i mentioned that need exchange, precisely not because... some previous agreements about the fact that azov will be the first to be returned, well, even when there was not such a huge number of prisoners, as now, a year and a half ago, two years ago, when this was passed, this was discussed, here it is already a humanitarian issue, because it is precisely about preservation of life, and precisely about preservation the lives of those who are under great threat, and in what way. this category includes the defenders of the azstal, directly the azov people, then other patriotic units and the seriously wounded and women. i would like to ask you about

the number of defenders of azov-stal, who are currently in captivity. are there any approximate numbers? i can say that... it is the soldiers of the military unit 3057 of the national guard, which we take care of and which is now called the 12th azov brigade, in the area of ​​a thousand people, in the area of ​​a thousand people, among them 700 - this is the azov regiment, which at the time of the exit from azov-steel was still a regiment, just like that... until about 2000, if i am not mistaken, this was the figure for the exit of all the defenders of azovstal, how many of them are currently still in captivity, this figure is already better known to the coordination headquarters for

the treatment of prisoners, so it is better to contact already by a specific number to them, yes, i understand, well, but the situation in which conditions they are... those photos or those videos that i saw, yes, well, they are creepy, yes, we understand that people are proven, were proven, prisoners of war , which according to the geneva conventions should... be in human conditions, so they were brought to a state of dystrophy, and this is not even talking about specific tortures, which signals may be coming, so we understand that the story is delicate, but i think that the signals are through the zones, because they are not kept in specialized camps, as far as i understand , for internees or prisoners of war, they are kept in russian zones, yes, yes, ours... prisoners are scattered throughout the territory of the so-called russian federation, and

of course, there are different conditions of detention, and there are different colonies, there are different prisons, but usually namely, azov citizens and defenders of azovstal are kept in the worst conditions and sent to the worst colonies and prisons, and... it is also about providing medical aid to those who are still and those who were injured even two years ago, defending azovstal and are still in captivity, and of course there are not human conditions there, well , these conditions simply do not exist there, there are colonies where they behave more or less normally. and that is, in principle , i hope that it depends more on

which colony our boys ended up in and girls, but in general, i will note again that the azov residents are treated in a special way, and it is not only about torture, food, medical care, sleeping regime, drinking water, and all this for the azov residents, well, it is practically inaccessible , they're just being kept in a state of, ah, life on the brink, and we have cases, and they've been covered in the media as well, that unfortunately, we 're losing our boys and...girls, uh , they die from torture, they die from diseases, they die from disabilities

wounds, and die from hunger, from lack of drinking water, and the sooner we will do everything possible for that, in principle, our state is already doing everything possible in order to return as soon as possible those who need it first of all, but well... unfortunately, this, even in such conditions as now, when we have a large number of replenishments in our exchange fund, unfortunately, this is not a guarantee that the russian side will agree to give in the first place, the defenders of azovstal, seriously wounded and women unfortunately, i agree with you, well we will keep this topic under control, and the most important thing is to connect. our american and european partners to intensify certain processes.

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to speak, it is precisely because of our a successful course the operation was postponed, which in principle did not happen. yes, because russia ignored both the peace summits and any public manifestations of talks about the removal of russian interventions from our lands, well, accordingly, it is difficult to talk about this without having additional access to secret information, yes, well, but in in any case, the russian foreign ministry was no longer lazy and began to deny that no, nothing of the sort was being conducted, although, if the russian foreign ministry begins to deny something, it means that something may have happened. igor, you have a word. well, we understand that various consultations, informal, at different levels, be it between special services, or at the level of intermediaries, for example, business representatives or

retired politicians, they are carried out constantly. and actually, material from washington. post, i don’t know if it’s true or not, but the foundation, the foundation for such a probability, such probable information is quite present, well, at least because after the global peace summit, i will remind you that it was decided to work in technical groups, each of three discussed points of the peace formula of peace. actually, this is energy security, this is food security and a humanitarian bloc, so actually the topic of energy security in our country was given to qatar. and there, exactly in august, consultations were to be held on how to achieve the appropriate result on

a specific point of the ukrainian peace formula, so the fact that qatar could become a mediator in such negotiations regarding the possibility of russia not attacking the ukrainian energy sector before. next winter and there, for example, the promise of ukraine not to attack their refineries, well , purely theoretically, it could well be, and such agreements, well, based on the facts, i think that in principle there were, this is my assumption, well, for example, pay attention, we have attacks on energy this year started just after the move of the city hall, then everyone thought, why isn't russia attacking, the winter passed as it were... so normal, everyone was preparing for it, even the government then heaved a little sigh of relief, but nevertheless, certain negotiations, obviously, not negotiations,

consultations, let's say so, obviously in then in the 10s or 20s of march , the attacks on our energy infrastructure also broke off, which actually followed, that is, always such backstage moments, they are easily added to the calendar of real events, and... nevertheless, i want to note that in fact, well, it is completely wild to say that russia withdrew from these negotiations and consultations there, because we have started an operation in kurshchyna, well then, excuse me, we could not enter into these negotiations at all, because it is ongoing , for example, the russian offensive in the direction there pokrovsk, there is mirnograd, toretsk, well, that is, if we are talking about some niche issue, let it be an exchange of eyelashes. captives, whether it is the organization of a grain corridor there, as we agreed there in the 22nd year through mediation with turkey and the un, this is one thing, we are not

speaking now for broader negotiations, no, in any case, but none the less , if such consultations were really going on, i think that russia just found a reason, a reason to just suspend them, i think that they will continue, but... well, the russian federation now it is possible to increase the price, maybe something else. it is obvious that in parallel with how we have 20 numbers, correspondingly in the month of july there is no large-scale shelling of our energy infrastructure, i think that during this time russia is simply accumulating now directly as cruise missiles x there 101x there 555 and so on, accumulating just in time for the autumn period, and at the same time pro... soil in order to slow down the attacks of our forces on their energy facilities, respectively refineries, substations, power plants and so on.

yes, i agree with you, especially taking into account the fact that the information was received, that we took it into our own hands, that is , the decision of the chief commissar and the supreme commander-in-chief, the commander-in-chief, we are talking about president zelensky, to nominate. towards kurshchyna, it was kept a secret from our western partners, yes, well, as it was explained, so that there would be no information leakage, well, and on the other hand, we understand that , well, the war is being waged by the servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine, the national guard, the relevant units, yes, that is our allies can have their own visions regarding the conduct of the war, well, but the ukrainians have to fight, well, that's it... the economist publication appeared: the plan to attack the kurt region in syrsky came up in july, he kept it a secret, and the meetings with the supreme commander-in-chief, if you believe it,

syrsky conducted the economist himself, well , it’s hard to say, if zelensky and syrsky talked in four years, how do we know about the economy, maybe someone else was there, well, but, but, but, so to speak, what is the position of our allies , how they perceive... successful actions of our fighters on the battlefield, yes, because it is without a doubt an unprecedented, on the one hand, force action and extremely successful, well, at least in the current phase, well, so far from what i record in the public sphere, and in general, it is mostly neutral positively, even cautiously positively, i would call it that, from this point of view, despite the fact that the operation in the kursk region... according to international law, well, actually, this is the occupation of the territory, directly of the russian federation, military occupation, nevertheless, is fully understanding that this is a continuation of

our defense campaign. ukraine very correctly stated immediately at the level of the spokesperson of the ministry of foreign affairs that we do not claim any territory, that in this way we actually fulfill the task of strengthening our own defense positions, and it is clear that in the future this will strategically help us during the negotiation process, and we broke the linear scenario that developed over time, where ukraine was increasingly inclined to make certain concessions. and it was evident that the nearer we got for example, before the elections in the united states, the more it would have happened, the operation in kursk showed that, well, not everything is so clear-cut, and not only russians can talk like that, and in this situation, i think that this all-in of ours played , and now the only question, regarding the bridgehead itself, is how long we will be able to preserve it, and right now

the position of our partners will continue to be reformed from... , signals about the alleged possibility already the provision of long-range jasm missiles at a distance of up to 370 km there, which can be launched from the sides of f-16s from the united states, that is , the topic, for example, atacoms there at 300 km, well, we can already see. all the signals that it is possible that it is better to use them in the crimea, but at the same time the topic of these jasms is already being discussed, then again active work is going on with our british partners regarding stormshadow with the french regarding analogues of the scalp, respectively, in order to also obtain these permits, and also from britain, we are already hearing, for example, signals that mr. starmer already...has

dynamics and very positive for us in this matter, that even there the british, for example, they do not refuse to state that their weapons are now being used in the kurshchyna, so i think that they are just our partners again, well , i don't know how much it is it would be correct to say that we put them in front of the fact, but you know, the situation reminded me of the first quarter of 2022, when everyone also thought that ukraine would surrender very quickly, we had to move. then you shouldn't count on such an underground struggle, but ukraine then is all the understanding of the event was broken, this is actually happening now, the only nuance is whether the operation on the kurshchyna will be the only such trump card that we have used, or not the only one, because different signals are now coming, i will not announce it on the air, but that is not less, certain secrets may well be revealed. oh, we'd love

to talk about secrets, but we know it could hurt. we have literally 40 seconds. igor, belarus and lukashenko, because he started moving his mustache again and making different signals. well, here i am more inclined to position, which on the one hand, of course, he voices there, but putin's desire, after all, maybe somewhere to discuss negotiations, because putin officially says, no negotiations, no... exchanges, and here moskalkova already comes out to lubinets, says : let's exchange prisoners of war, and here we already hear lukashenka, who starts talking about stopping the fighting and everything else, but mostly i am inclined to say that lukashenka, including , is trying to play to the side of china at this moment, and give a signal directly western countries, that he is capable of negotiating, he can be absolutely useful in the current situation, well, de facto, de facto lukashenko...

just now, well, he is fighting for his own skin, roughly speaking, thank you, thank you, it is quite understandable, by the way, yes, lukashenko would like to survive in all that flesh-eating, ihor chelenko, he was in touch with us, the head of the analysis and strategy center, now solemnly enters the air, anna eva melnyk will present all the most important things, anya, glad to see you, hello , you have a word, congratulations, antin, traditionally, mutually, news editor works, we will talk about the most important thing in this issue, i will start the situation. in donetsk region, be with us. four people died in turetsk and zarichny in donetsk region due to enemy attacks, the regional prosecutor's office reported. turetsk, the russians fired artillery in the yard

of... a woman was fatally injured.