helping refugees, those who left ukraine and then began to return, we tried to understand, analyze all possible ways to make russia pay the price for the damage it caused to ukraine, and we were pioneers in introducing such legislation , regarding the use of frozen russian assets for the restoration of ukraine and... these assets are not only state assets, they are also the property of private individuals and legal entities in estonia, and all those who are under international sanctions, then the law was was adopted recently, and the regulatory processes are still ongoing, since everything must be met internationally. rules, so that we do not

create unnecessary problems for ukraine in the coming years, so we are working on it now, and i think that we are making great progress in this direction, i hope that we will be able to demonstrate to the whole world that this is possible, that it can be used all frozen assets and profits from these assets, not only directly. profits for the simple fact that we held these assets before, you have set a very good example for western countries, after passing this law, other countries, in your opinion, personal opinion, why they do not pass such laws, just your personal opinion, because of fear, is something else possible after all? it's very difficult for me. to say why certain

countries do something or don't do something, but i think that there are still some legal issues, legal issues that countries are discussing, but in estonia, our national legislation really tried to make it look like this, so that prove that we can to do without violations of european or international legislation, i really hope that the western partners will see this, and will not delay and pass similar laws in their countries, but now let's move on to something else, the post-war reconstruction of ukraine, after all, even this reconstruction is already underway in different parts of ukraine, and those that were under temporary occupation in the first days of the war, please tell me, does estonia... have any projects, in this

case state or non-state projects, which help to rebuild ukrainian cities and villages. yes, yes, of course, as i already said, we started this work already in the 22nd year, and all these projects in connection with recovery in ukraine, then started, in particular in the zhytomyr region, this is conditionally ours. our region, our region, because estonia is a small country and we have limited resources. and we thought that it is necessary to approach the issue of the reconstruction of ukraine in a very complex way, so we chose one area, one region, and we provide assistance for reconstruction there. we helped build a new kindergarten, and we conduct training for...

teachers, educators, so that such assistance is long-term, just not simple to build one house or one shelter, but to help in such a way that it is long-term and covers the problems faced by a specific region, of course, but we talked about the money that comes from estonia or, for example, from... the support that goes from estonia to ukraine, let's talk now about the assistance that ukrainians who are currently in the territory of the republic of estonia receive the trend of returning to ukraine? yes, of course, we have statistics on ukrainians living now in... and we provided them from

the first day of their arrival in estonia, any assistance, any assistance that we... could provide, this is medical assistance, social protection, education, we also opened two special schools, specialized schools for ukrainian children, where they can be educated in the estonian language, but keep their language, their culture, can study according to the ukrainian curriculum, so we are trying to... do everything for ukrainian refugees who are in estonia, so that they do not lose this connection with their country, with their culture. of course, we have other plans and projects, but

the main slogan of the government is that it is necessary for ukrainians to feel that they are welcome here in estonia. and i can confidently say that ukrainians in estonia definitely feel that they are welcomed in this country, because my daughter has been living in the territory of the republic of estonia for more than two years, she studies there and she knows how estonians think how estonians are helping, and how estonians are trying to do everything to bring our joint victory over the russian aggressor closer. and now a little about the victory: in estonia, except, of course, women and children. there are many men who received it, it is not temporary shelter, temporary protection, it is called, as far as i understand, in estonia, please tell me, now in many, at least in eastern european countries, they are talking about the fact that they somehow try to cooperate with the government

of ukraine regarding men subject to conscription into the army and who are militarily obligated in order to somehow help these men, well, at... the authorities, and maybe even return to register in ukraine, in the corresponding ukraine, or is there something similar in estonia? yes, such discussions, such requests started coming some time ago, but our previous prime minister said that... then, since people are living in estonia legally, we gave them temporary residence permits and temporary protection, and we do not

plan to send them back to ukraine, therefore that we have rules, we have obligations and... this also comes from european legislation, that is, we have no plans to send them back to ukraine, but we are cooperating in this sense with the ukrainian authorities, with the ukrainian embassy in tallinn, and we understand that there are needs in ukraine, but i think that many ukrainians who live in ukraine, they want to return to their... they are waiting for such a conspiracy, for opportunities, for return, this was one of the reasons why we started like this early reconstruction, so that people can see the perspective of the future, we have children's

parks, our local communities, etc., to make it easier for people to return, we usually work with the ukrainian authorities to... understand how we can help the ukrainians, but as i say, we are not going to send them back if they don't want to , of course, madam ambassador, one more question, and the question can be asked from ukrainian students studying in estonia, recently, well, literally a month or two ago , there was information that, for example , they are gathering in lithuania or already in... adopted a law according to which ukrainians will be deprived of benefits exchange students, are they going to do something like that in estonia or not? we have ukrainian students

who have been studying in estonian universities for many years, even before the full-scale war started, and there are many ukrainian... regarding the government's plans to end aid for programs that are currently active, so ukrainian students should calm down, all will be fine, thanks to our, of course, brothers and sisters in estonia. let's now once again return a little to, unfortunately , the military theme, and talk about the red lines, look at these red lines... there are many in the west, for some they are there, for some they are clearly defined, for some they are very

unclear, but for estonia, in this war, in our common war, i will call it that , in our joint war with the russian aggressor, are there any red lines, this is my favorite question, thank you for it. estonia has never talked about any red lines, for us the most important thing, one of the most important things, is integrity, territorial integrity, democracy, cultural identity of people, and we strive for this in estonia, in our country, and this is what we really like in ukraine. and we do not see any red lines when it comes to russia's brutal war

against ukraine, all the war crimes, genocide that they committed, we believe that there cannot be any red lines here, and our goal is to preserve them. ukrainian independence, democracy, territorial integrity, so we support ukraine in everything we can so that it can achieve these goals, and accordingly, we do not see any red lines here as such, the government. in many cases already said that we are ready to discuss any possibility of helping ukrainians, and

the most important thing is to help ukraine win this war, we are ready to discuss any solutions, ways, but since we are a small country, we... understand , that we need to cooperate with other countries, move together, then it will be easier to discuss these issues with our partners, and we are ready to be a pioneer in certain solutions, so our red line, if i can call it that, or blue- the yellow line is precisely to help ukraine win in this war, simply. wonderful words, this is not a red line, but a yellow-blue line, and this is

to help ukraine win this war of aggression, it is simply, simply incredible, i thank you very much for this, and look, in estonia itself, i understand, you are now with are trying your best to help us win this war, but in estonia they are not considering, i will not say so, are they preparing, i will say directly, are they preparing in estonia for... a possible attack by russia now, because there was a lot of talk about it on the beginning of the invasion of ukraine 2.5 years ago, but are they talking about it now? estonia? of course, when we became an independent state, in the early 1990s, we were always very wary of our neighbor and we had no... illusions

that russia had no plans to invade, and we always both nato and the eu talked about a possible threat from russia, we, we warned other countries about this, so we... have been preparing for self-defense for a long time since the beginning of the 90s, that is why we wanted to acquire membership in the eu and... we wanted to join nato, we prepared step by step for that, and every year we increased our spending on defense, on defense and called on others, other nato countries for this, to defend themselves both individually and jointly,

collectively. therefore, yes, we continue to prepare. we continue to prepare, i can’t say that we started thinking about it, or preparing only after the 14th year, when russia occupied part of ukraine, or after the start of a full-scale war, we did something step by step every day to protect ourselves from ivo, from of this evil, and from this evil you must always prepare, defend yourself, because this evil is not... the predicted evil can attack any wave, i witnessed it, we were in february 2022, so you have to constantly prepare. let's say two more words about ordinary estonians. your country is small, but as far as i know, different people live in different parts, of course. what is the attitude

of estonians after 2.5 years of full-scale invasion of ukraine, to your government's support of ukraine and to what is happening. in ukraine, why am i asking, because as far as i know, in the north-east of estonia, in the narva area, there are a lot of russian-speaking citizens of estonia living there, or are they support all actions of your estonian government in support of ukraine. yes, for many years we have had a russian-speaking minority living in estonia for... almost 30 years now, and of course we see that there is a certain contingent of people who do not want this integration, they still look more to the side russia, but estonian,

estonian society and the government of estonia. we naturally support ukraine and further it is not even a question of reducing such aid, i think that since the war has been going on for more than 2.5 years and the brutality of putin's regime every day increases, strengthens, and we... are ready to help ukraine in the long term, not only for victory, but also for further recovery, that is why support is increasing, i can say, and if you look at the non-governmental organizations of ordinary citizens who help in ukraine,

we see that every month, or even every week, support comes from ordinary people. who collect or provide humanitarian aid, just yesterday i read that three estonian non-governmental organizations, which have been helping ukraine for more than 2.5 years, again sent a new aid convoy to ukraine. and there were medical products, and drones, and military aid for the front, for the army, for rescuers, they help and the aid continues to arrive and even increases in volume, because, as i said, this is

the fascination with ukraine, it is... very big in estonia, and every day we are shocked by the brutality of the putin regime, that he continues, this brutality is happening, and of course, our support will not decrease, it will only increase, well, this is a mutual admiration, i must tell you, we admire the estonians for their support and assistance to ukraine from the very beginning, because in some countries they are trying to find some things that... justify the fact that they do not want to help, and we admire the estonians, who have helped and supported us since the first day of the war, madam ambassador, i thank you very much for visiting me today and the last time for you... question: you have been in ukraine for a year, i understand that you have a busy schedule, you came to us after an important meeting, i mean for an interview yes, and you have many such meetings, but

do you have time, did you have time this year to travel, travel a little in ukraine, do you have a favorite place in ukraine? definitely when i came to ukraine a year ago. i told my colleagues that i am the ambassador in ukraine, not in kyiv, which means that i have to travel a lot and see how local communities live, i have to communicate with people, and yes, i have been to kharkiv, odesa, rivne, in zhytomyr, of course, this is our partner, a partner region, and was in many corners. of ukraine, and i think it is important to demonstrate to local communities that we are theirs support, and we are not afraid to come to

them, to come to these territories, because we understand that what they face every day are these attacks, shelling, alarms, and it is important for me to demonstrate that i am here, i am ready to provide... er, adequate information to my capital, so that they can decide that more help is needed in this direction or in another direction, etc., then i love your country very much, it is very beautiful, very wonderful, every day i see more and more, on wonder of very beautiful things and i really like the durability ukrainians and by the way, i was also on the front line at the beginning of march, i said that i

needed to talk to the soldiers, see what was happening at the front, and it was during those difficult times, when foreign aid began to somehow decrease or be delayed, and i said then that i need to get... right from the front that feedback so that i can take that information to tallinn so that they can make the necessary decisions about what exactly is needed, so i will continue to travel, now i want to focus more on those areas that are facing more than everyone with the energy crisis and ... understand what specifically is needed for these regions, so of course i will travel as much as possible. traveling madam ambassador, we thank her for that, and we thank her for

all the help and support we receive from the estonian government and from ordinary estonians, who from the very beginning started helping us defend our country, our independence, our sovereignty and our territorial integrity. madam ambassador, i thank you very, very much for joining this conversation today. send thanks to all the citizens of your country for everything you do for us. it was an interview with ms. ambassador of the republic of estonia to ukraine anneli kolk, who came to us a year ago and has already done a lot in this position. espresso interviews will continue, my name is yuriy fizar. see you soon. tired of the mess in the kitchen, you constantly have to sort through a bunch of pans to

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